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SHEMOT

The Quail That Exploded in the Oven

The Quail That Exploded in the Oven

Part of Shemot · 19:32

A textual question on whether the quail were slaughtered or spread out, the manna's varied flavors for different people, and the meaning of the word 'mechuspas.'

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Manna described as a carpet on the ground

manna, still about the manna. וישטחו שתוח, it says that the manna and the שלו came and it made like שתוח, שתוח means like שטיח, like a carpet. I'm sorry to disturb, but I just arrived from Israel and I have to say a Kaddish. For the minyan? Could be, yeah. It says for you. You want to say yourself? Sorry, you want to say, which kind of Kaddish you want to say? Whatever. It doesn't matter. Kaddish derabbanan or a Kaddish yasom? Regular. Regular Kaddish. So let's all say a kapitel Tehillim and you'll be able to say a Kaddish after. למנצח מזמור לדוד יענך ה' ביום צרה ישגבך שם אלהי יעקב ישלח עזרך מקדש ומציון יסעדך יזכר כל מנחתך ועולתך ידשנה סלה יתן לך כלבבך וכל עצתך ימלא נרננה בישועתך ובשם אלהינו נדגל ימלא ה' כל משאלותיך עתה ידעתי כי הושיע ה' משיחו יענהו משמי קדשו בגבורות ישע ימינו אלה ברכב ואלה בסוסים ואנחנו בשם ה' אלהינו נזכיר המה כרעו ונפלו ואנחנו קמנו ונתעודד ה' הושיעה המלך יעננו ביום קראנו. יתגדל ויתקדש שמיה רבא. אמן. בעלמא די ברא כרעותיה וימליך מלכותיה ויצמח פורקניה ויקרב משיחיה. אמן. בחייכון וביומיכון ובחיי דכל בית ישראל בעגלא ובזמן קריב ואמרו אמן. אמן. יהא שמיה רבא מברך לעלם ולעלמי עלמיא. יתברך וישתבח ויתפאר ויתרומם ויתנשא ויתהדר ויתעלה ויתהלל שמיה דקודשא בריך הוא. אמן. לעילא מן כל ברכתא ושירתא תושבחתא ונחמתא דאמירן בעלמא ואמרו אמן. אמן. יהא שלמא רבא מן שמיא וחיים טובים עלינו ועל כל ישראל ואמרו אמן. אמן. עושה שלום במרומיו הוא יעשה שלום עלינו ועל כל ישראל ואמרו אמן. אמן.

Shechita issue: וישטחו versus וישחטו

Good. So it says that the שלו that came, it came like a carpet. אמר ריש לקיש, ריש לקיש said different: אל תקרי וישטחו אלא וישחטו. Don't read it וישטחו, but וישחטו. The print, it's a print, yeah, the Torah has a print mistake, מלמד שנתחייבו שונאיהם של ישראל שחיטה, shows that the Yidden deserved to be geschachted because they, of the שלו. Then it says the word שתוח, he teitshes it different now. It says they no, they they died, and many of them died right away, many of them died after a month. No, no, that was the, that was a snake, snake bit them. שתוח, תנא משמיה דרבי יהושע בן קרחה, the word שתוח, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Korcha learns, אל תקרי שתוח אלא שחוט. מלמד, that teaches us, שירד להם לישראל עם המן דבר שטעון שחיטה. When the שלו came together with the man, so the pasuk tells you that this needed shechitah. As if saying that they didn't know the dinim of shechitah till now. Now, when the birds came, that's when the אויבערשטער gave a remez that you need shechitah. אמר ליה רבי, רבי said, וכי מכאן אתה למד? But here, this is where we know the din of shechitah? והלא כבר נאמר, it says: וימטר עליהם כעפר שאר, וכחול ימים עוף כנף, that it says in that He gave him עוף כנף, and that means that a, this is a din of a bird, דתניא, it says: רבי אומר, רבי says: וזבחת כאשר צויתיך, it says by shechot'ing it says you should, when you want to eat meat, you should שחט, כאשר צויתיך, like I commanded you. Now, in Chumash there's no commandment on shechitah. It doesn't say how to shechot, where to shechot. מלמד, that tells us, שנתצוה משה, that משה was told בעל פה, על הוושט ועל הקנה, the two windpipe, the windpipe and the food pipe, and the din of רוב אחד בעוף, that by one, by a bird, you could shechot enough one of the two simanim to cut, the majority, ורוב שנים בבהמה, by בהמה you have to have two. No, this doesn't show it. Here it just says כאשר צויתיך, you should shechot. That He gave him like a, like a עוף כנף, like a bird, it's a bird. And then here it says you should shechot, so you put the two together. Winged bird. A what? Winged, a winged bird. Why did they, why did they connect the וזבחת together with עוף? No, from the vezavachta we know that you have to shechot. And we learn from the, and the רבי says what was included in the shechitah? רוב אחד בעוף. And the pasuk says that they got an עוף. שלו is an עוף. Maybe שלו is not an עוף, maybe שלו is a fish, I don't know. שלו is an עוף. So from that we know that you have to shecht. But by the way, this is one of the raayos from Chumash that there is Torah Shebaal Peh, because otherwise how do you know? So then why does it have, why is it not in the meaning why is it not in the Chumash? Yeah, why does it have Because the Eibishter gave baal peh a lot of dinim. But the Torah indicates that there was something given baal peh. The Torah says you should do like I told you. So if there would be pesukim earlier, you could say okay, it refers to those pesukim. Doesn't say anywhere in the Torah how to shecht, and it says shecht as I told you. A siman that Hashem' told him. So the bottom line is that it's not from the פסוק שתוח שחוט that we know we have to shecht. אלא מה תלמוד לומר שחוט, or shecht, what does it mean shecht? מלמד, After Matan Torah. Yeah, baal peh was also after Matan Torah, sure. How did they shecht at the, the who told them how to shecht in the קרבן פסח? Well, they knew from before. But it wasn't הצטוו, they weren't commanded. I understand, but the, the The concept of shechitah was by Yosef yet. It says Yosef told them to shecht, so the brothers should be able to eat, they should shecht. Avraham didn't shecht to the, to the Doesn't say. I'm saying no, there it says. Rashi says, it says וטבח טבח, no וטבח טבח והכן. Rashi says showed showed them how to שחט it properly. Right, there we go, but Hashem what we're saying here Hashem did was not command them, He just showed them, but it's like a command. But I told you before, מתן תורה too. No, commanded. Yeah, but that wasn't commanded for always. Not for this pasuk, you wouldn't have to שחט, you could kill an animal and eat. Here it says It says שחט, it says in the Torah שחט. No, here it says וזבחת. The Torah says what? שחט. שחט. But we don't know how, but it says שחט. No, but this pasuk, no, but if not for this pasuk, we wouldn't have to שחט. This is the pasuk which says that an animal has to be שחט'd. Right, and it's not Pesach, that's what No, that's in the Torah. How to שחט, He says, \"as I told you\". Right. How to שחט. And when did He tell us? From מתן תורה. But that could be before מתן תורה. No. Before מתן תורה, anything we were told before מתן תורה we don't have to keep. No, you keep, this is not, this is a a way. It's a, it's a process. It's not a mitzvah. It's a גילוי מילתא. It's a גילוי מילתא, so we call it. Did He speak only directly to Moshe Rabbeinu, or to the Yidden? To the, to Moshe. No, and He should tell it to the Yidden? No, but it, when it says וזבחת, doesn't mean Moshe, it says to Moshe, but Moshe should tell it to the Yidden, like I told the Yidden, like I told you before to tell the Yidden. Even ברית מילה. It's not because, it's after מתן תורה. Yeah, but ברית מילה, He told them how to do it beforehand, so then if it didn't come after. And later, when He commanded, He told them over again. Okay, exactly, He told Yeah, He told them exactly how to do it, yeah. Now, what does אלא מה תלמוד לומר שטח, שטוח הכונה, what does it mean שטוח? So he says, מלמד שיורד להם משטיחין משטיחין. In other words, when the flock came, it became like like a carpet, layers. Carpet, and on top of that, like oh boy, you look down, and the whole thing was covered, the whole floor and everything was covered with layers upon layers. Where did they find the מן? Over the layers. The מן came too. Yeah, in the morning. Different different places. In the morning, evening. מן came in the morning, שלו came in the evening. שלו before, right? Yeah, in the evening, pashut pashut. Okay,

Manna’s varied flavors for different groups

כתיב, it says by the inyan of the מן, one place it calls it לחם, bread. כתיב, one place it calls it שמן, לשד השמן it says, it looked like a שמן, taste like oil. כתיב, another פסוק, דבש, honey. אמר רבי יוסי בר חנינא, הא כיצד? Which one is it? לנערים, לחם, for youngsters it was like it was bread, cuz for them it's healthy to eat bread. Tasted like bread, or it felt like? Huh? It tasted like bread, or it No, it tasted like bread. Oh, it felt It tasted like whatever you wanted. Right. So, you can have any taste you want, but it was basically what he's saying, it gave everything every person, every type of person what it needed, what he needed. So, for the person that needed bread, this was the bread of that he needed. That was, it had the the nutrition that needed for every person, for bread. לזקנים, שמן, for old, it's important to have oil, and לתינוקות for children, it's דבש, it's honey. So, like why they were eating, they would change taste? If they had one they had one עומר, and and they could eat a piece of it and it would taste like one thing, and then eat another piece and it would taste like Could they have in have in mind one should be milk, one should be meat? Yeah, בשר בחלב. How does that work? What if he had in mind a cheeseburger? Cheeseburger. Exactly. Probably could. Just to think of it is treif. Well, that's assur. Fair enough. What if I tasted Doritos? Doritos. I taste Cheetos. Whatever Cheetos taste like, I want it to taste like that. Look at the Gemara vayter, כתיב, it says, the פסוק says שלו with a שין, שין. וקרינן שלו, with a סמך, but really it says שין. אמר רב חנינא, חנינא said like this, שלו comes from the word שלוה, שלוה means peace. צדיקים אכלו מניה בשלוה, צדיקים ate it peacefully. רשעים אכלו ליה, the רשעים ate it, ודמי עליהן כשלוים, כשלוים, it tasted or felt like thorns. So, then Wasn't worth to be a רשע in the מדבר. Well, who was a רשע in the מדבר? How could you be, you just got Plenty of רשעים. You just saw the Torah came, you have the ענני הכבוד, the whole thing. And, and the עגל how did they make? They were at least 1,000 before they waited in there. No! Forty days after מתן תורה! Forty days after מתן תורה! It's just forty days! But the egel, they had a good kavana, they had the right kavana, they want to connect to Hashem, so it wasn't like a rasha doing it lehachis. No, but not when they were dancing and doing all those things. They killed so many people. It's not pashut, it's not pashut.

Four types of שליו birds explained

אמר רב חנן בר רבא, רב חנן בר רבא says ארבעה מיני שליו הן, there are four types of the שליו. How do they say שליו in English? Quail. Is that, yeah, ואלו הן, שיבלי, קיבלי, פשיוני, and שליו. Partridge, pheasant. Roasted pheasant. Delicious. You never had? For sure, kasher. For sure it is, but Talk about the slippers connection, prime minister, he had roasted pheasant when he was giving his speech about what they have in Menachem Begin when he came to America or something like that. That's what they served him, they made a whole big thing out of that. מעליא דכולהו שיבלי. The best of all four is the first one, שיבלי. גריעא דכולהו, the worst is the one מין that's called שליו. They're all called שליו, but there's one in this מין that has a specific name of שליו, and that's the worst. שיבלי, no? עם שי\"ן? That's with שי\"ן? No, it's a שיבלי. No, I think it's with a כ' here. No, it's with a ב'. שיבלי, with a ב'. That's that's with a י'. The fine printing on the side? שיבלי is with a כ'. שיבלי is with a כ'. Really? In Ein Yaakov it says with a ב'. With a ב', yeah. Okay. והוה כי צפריתא, it tastes like a bird, ומלחו ליה, they would salt it, ומותבי ליה בתנורא, you put it in the oven, ותפח, so fat, it pashut blows up, ורווח אדעבי מליא תנורא. It blows up so much that it fills up the whole, it takes up the whole oven, it fills up. ומסקי ליה, you take it, ומותבי ליה אתליסר ריפתא, you put it down on 13 breads, ריפתא, 13 slices, no, but it looks like a 13 breads. ובתרייתא דכולהו לא משתכלא אלא בתערובת. And even the the last one also is so fat that cannot be eaten unless you mix it with other stuff. Or if all the fat drips down into the breads, I guess it absorbs all the oil. Yeah, yeah. One might think there's some aggadata in this, like some figure of? No? I'm not worried about cholesterol. I'm not worried about cholesterol. Depends what you're eating. Why? It's a peshute peshat, I mean, it's a very fatty bird. Ask for meat? No, they asked for meat. And the Eibershter gave them שליו which is the closest in birds, in chicken, in birds, meat closest to beheima. Even more fat than meat. Than meat, yeah. So, unusual. Oh, man, it was. Soaking from fat, full of fat. Schmaltz. Yeah. It sounds like a guzma to me. It blows up, and it fills up the whole oven? How big how big is an oven? It came from the sky, and you can fill an oven? Exactly, you said. It came from the sky, and it filled up the oven, and you cannot understand it filled up the oven. It's not sky, I'm I'm talking about it's real birds, regular birds. Yeah, I guess it's a regular bird. We got a had shecht them? It just so says, shechita. Natural bird. How it came from the sky? They were migrating from Canada to, well, I don't think it came from the sky. The Eibershter brought them. The fact that they came, he made them come from some country. They were shecht them? They were shecht them? Yeah, yeah. And, you eat. Very tall. 60 ושבעה? For sure, yeah. Yeah, all right. They weren't indigenous to the desert or the desert areas, so like you said, it's still miraculous that The miracle was not that they were created miraculously, they were brought. Like the the the Makkos, the tzefarde'im came tzefarde'a came from who knows, from the Yam Suf or something like that, where swamps are. And, the birds came also, like gigantic ones. But tell bear also. רב יהודה משכח ליה ביני דני. Rav Yehuda would find amongst the barrels, he would find these birds. And רב חסדא משכח ליה ביני ציבי, amongst the woods, between the wood, he would find these birds.

Rava’s daily bird deliveries and their mystery

רבא הוה רגיל מייתי ליה ציידא כל יומא מאגמא, that Rava the seder was that every day this guy would bring him, this hunter would bring him from the אגמא, from the swamp. Swamp, he would bring him these birds. ההוא יומא לא אייתי ליה. One day he didn't come to bring him. אמר, he said, מאי האי? What happened today is different? סליק לאגרא, went up to the roof. שמע, on the roof he heard a child, ינוקא, a child דקאמר, quoting a פסוק, שמעתי ותרגז בטני, I heard something and my stomach started turning. אמר, he said, שמע מינה נח נפשיה דרב חסדא. Such a remez, a siman that something terrible happened. Rav Chisda, who was his Rebbe and his father-in-law, died. ובדיל רבה אכל תלמידא. And from here that's why the guy stopped bringing me because I assumed that in the zechut of my Rebbe I got this bird, this geshmaka bird every day. The day that he died, so that zechut is not open anymore and therefore he stopped bringing me. כתיב, one pasuk says, וברדת הטל על המחנה לילה ירד המן עליו, the טל came down The dew came down, the מן came on top. So it seems like the טל was on the bottom, and the מן was on top of the טל. כתיב, another פסוק says: ותעל שכבת הטל. That's when the טל went away, they saw the מן. That means that the טל was on top of the מן. אמר רבי יוסי בר חנינא, חנינא said: טל מלמעלה וטל מלמטה. Yeah, it was טל on the bottom, טל on top, כמאן דמנח בקופסא, it looked like it was in a box, it was laying in a box like It's clear, no? It's a sandwich or something. What? The מן, the טל was? Yeah. Okay. So, the box underneath No, the טל was like a box. Right. Like a sandwich. It was a טל on top, טל on the bottom. So, we cover the we cover the lechem mishneh. That's right. So, the the board underneath is considered the Right, yeah. Yeah, but we lift it up? What about lifting up the lechem mishneh? Isn't there a minhag to do that? You pick it up When you make a berachah? Yeah. Before you have No, it's fine. Then the פסוק is דק מחוספס. What does that mean? דק is thin, מחוספס?

Meaning of מחוספס and its gematria

אמר ריש לקיש: דבר שנמוח על פיסות היד. מחוספס mean comes from the word מוח and פיסות, something that melts in your hands. And רבי יוחנן אמר, it says: דבר שנבלע ברמ״ח איברים, something that melts in your body. M&M's! Melts in your mouth, not in your hand. Yeah. See, melts in your hand, but this says not in your hand. The second pshat says it melts Once to show that something is so good, it it tastes so geshmak, it's so, it melts in your hands, and here it may melt in your mouth, it's an expression. מחוספס בגימטריא הכי הוי. מחוספס is in גימטריא 248. פרעגט די גמרא: מחוספס טובא הוי! מחוספס is more! If you make the גימטריא, it's more. Six more. אמר רב נחמן בר יצחק: מחספס כתיב, without a ו. It's written, you read it מחוספס, but it's written מחספס, so it's written without a ו. So without a ו, מ, ח, ס, פ, ס adds up to 248. Maybe that's for women, how many extra do they have? Huh? Women have extra bones, right? How many? Was it six, two, three, I think? Different opinions, that's why we don't use the לשון. Different opinions. Okay, we can learn another inyan if you want.

Bread of the angels and its interpretation

תנו רבנן, the רבנן learned: לחם אבירים אכל איש. Peshat is it goes on all the Yidden, they ate לחם אבירים. What's אבירים? אבירים means malachim. לחם שמלאכי השרת אוכלין אותו. דברי רבי עקיבא. Rabbi Akiva says it means bread, מן was the food of the malachim. כשנאמרו דברים לפני רבי ישמעאל, when it was said to רבי ישמעאל, אמר להם, he said to them: צאו ואמרו לו לעקיבא, עקיבא טעית! Akiva, you made a mistake. וכי מלאכי השרת אוכלין לחם? Malachim eat bread? והלא כבר נאמר, it says: לחם לא אכלתי. When I came למעלה, I didn't eat any bread, and there's no eating food. אלא מה אני מקיים לחם אבירים? What does it say לחם אבירים? אל תקרי לחם אבירים אלא לחם איברים. אבירים is מלאכים, איברים means the limbs. The bread of the limbs, לחם שנבלע ברמ״ח איברים, the bread that's absorbed into the 248 איברים. Does it teach us for sure that malachim don't eat bread? Yeah. אלא מה אני מקיים ויתד תהיה לך על אזנך? The Aibershter in the midbar said that everyone should go around and have like a little hammer, a little nail, that when he has to go to the bathroom Huh? Shovel, יתד. to go out he should be able to go out of the מחנה, to do his needs, and then be able to dig and cover it up. But if it got absorbed in the body, there was no פסולת, there was no waste. So, they didn't need it. That's בדברים שתגרי אומות העולם מוכרין להן. Those are things that the goyim from all around countries, the merchants used to come and sell them all kinds of things. They used to buy all kinds of foods. Those foods, takeh, had פסולת, so they need it for that, but those that only ate מן, takeh didn't need this. So they had all the בהמות, they had the שליו, they also had the mon, and they still bought stuff from Yeah. Spoiled. Didn't feel like anything. From the peddlers they bought vegetables? Yeah. Guy wanted a tomato, who knows what he bought. He says לחם He talks about Moshe Rabbeinu. Hydroponic tomato. Peshuto k'mashma'o. Peshuto k'mashma'o is it was that people ate the mon. Did they also bring... they also were... There was some talk about Wait, what is it later? איש, איש is Yehoshua How about the pregnant women? Didn't they crave something else? That's what we learned yesterday, the five different things. Had to buy that from the Yeah. Yeah. Onions, garlic. Not that they craved it, but

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