Who Really Ate the 'Bread of Angels'?
Who Really Ate the 'Bread of Angels'?
Part of Shemot · 13:40
Explores the phrase describing manna as angelic bread, whether Moshe and Yehoshua ate regular manna too, and trusting in daily sustenance without worry.
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Yep, we're holding here. This is the middle of סימן, a long סימן here, it's been a while, סימן ס\"ה. It's all about the מן still. We said that the מן got swallowed into the body and there was no waste, so he didn't have to go to the bathroom. So the Gemara asked, it says that they were told in the מדבר that they should have like a shovel within them, that whenever they have to go they should go outside of the מחנה, and then they should be able to dig and cover it. But what was it for if there was no, what was it for? So he answered, the Gemara answered: דברים שתגרי אומות העולם מוכרים להם, the things that the goyim sold them from around. That's where we're holding, on top here. Rabbi Elazar ben Parta אומר, Rabbi Elazar ben Parta says: אפילו דברים שתגרי אומות העולם מוכרים להם, מן מפיגן. Even if they ate food that they bought from other people, the מן took care of it and also made it that it shouldn't have waste. אלא מה אני מקיים ויתד תהיה לך על אזנך, so what's the peshat? Well the peshat is that they should have the shovel: לאחר שסרחו, after they sinned. When they complained about the מן, בעצם the מן was supposed to be not to have any waste, and other food along with it would not have waste. But
when they complained against the מן, אמר HaKadosh Baruch Hu, Hashem said: אני אמרתי שיהיו ישראל לפני כמלאכי השרת, I said that you're going to be like מלאכים, ואתם לא עשיתם כך, you didn't do that, you complained about it. עכשיו אני מטריח אתכם ג' פרסאות, now I'm going to make you go חוץ למחנה, outside of the מחנה, which is three פרסאות. In other words, the מחנה was three פרסאות, and they only could go one direction. דכתיב, it says: ויחנו על הירדן מבית הישימות עד אבל השטים. It says that the מחנה took up from the בית הישימות to אבל השטים. ואמר Rabbah bar bar Chana אמר Rabbi Yochanan, Rabbah bar bar Chana said in the name of רבי יוחנן: לדידי חזי לי ההוא דוכתא, I saw that place, ותלתא פרסי הוה, it's three פרסאות. תנא, we learned: כשהן נפנין, whenever they have to go to the bathroom, אין נפנין לא לפניהם, they couldn't do it in front, לא לצדיהן, not on the side, אלא לאחריהם, in the back. So therefore, if a person was all the way in the front, he couldn't say, \"Okay, he's at the beginning of the מחנה, so he'll go out a little bit.\" Couldn't do it in front. You couldn't say, people on the side, couldn't go to the side. You had to go to the back. So a person was close to the end, yeah, but a guy who was all the way in the front had to walk three פרסאות. So the Aibershter said, \"Look, I wanted to make you like malachim, malachim are people are are are creatures that don't have to go to the bathroom. But you didn't want it.\"
They don't eat either. They don't eat, yeah. So you would eat, no, it says a lashon of the mon, food that מלאכי השרת ate, the Gemara has discussed it soon. לחם אבירים. Yeah, the Gemara will discuss לחם אבירים. They ate? So, whatever, not really. When they came here by Avraham Avinu and they ate, so Rashi says נראין כאוכלין, they looked like they were eating. And even according to the peshat that they takeh ate, not because they needed it, because אזלת לקרתא הלך בנימוסה, if you come to a place you got to behave like the people in that place. So here too. Anyway, so the Gemara continues. He had already for them to go go off the derech? What do you mean? Because he already had the shovel ready, so he knew already there was going to be an issue. No, he told this to them later. Oh, the shovel came in? Yeah, after they complained. Why should they complain? There was no fiber in the mon, they figured it was getting all stuffed up in there. The pasuk says right, let's see. ועתה נפשנו... How long did they eat the mon without a problem until they complained? Do we know? The first year, it wasn't long, happened right away pretty much. The first year, yeah, the Erev Rav. The pasuk says they complained and said: ועתה נפשנו יבשה אין כל, our nefesh is dry, dry, we have nothing. אמרו, this is what they said: עתיד מן זה שיתפח במעיהם. The end will be we're eating and nothing's coming out, so we're eating, we're eating, we're stuffing ourselves, we're going to go blow up! And the mon will be והורגם, and it will kill them. כלום יש לילוד אשה, is there such a thing as a human being, שמכניס ואינו מוציא, that takes in and doesn't take out? So this is what their complaint was. Okay. כשנאמרו דברים לפני השם... A gnat? Huh? Not a human, a gnat. It's said by a gnat, that the smallest thing created, it means that it's selfish. Mosquito. Okay, they say gnat, but mosquito whatever. Was it all the people that complained, or just... No, stam, I'm sure not all. Was it because of the Erev Rav, or it was more than just that? Well, it says והאספסוף, אספסוף was on the Erev Rav. But there was twice that they complained. The complaint is in Behaalotecha, and the complaint is in Beshalach. Was Korach issue before or after? Before? The complaint could have was after. Because Korach was right in the beginning, second year. Is that when all the troublemakers died though, no? No. But the mon, the first beginning they were Datan vaAviram, later could be not. Later, Behaalotecha, is stam after after Korach. Not for sure, even though it's written before Korach, I don't know exactly. But in that, the mosquito, it's a negative connotation that it takes in, but it doesn't let out, it's very selfish. Here, it's a maalah. Yeah, yeah, because it was... The reason is because it was ruchniyusdige food, ruchniyusdige food doesn't have any waste. Yeah. That's what's ruchniyusdige, ruchniyus doesn't have waste. כשנאמרו דברים לפני רבי ישמעאל, when this was said to רבי ישמעאל, אמר להם, he said to them, אל תקרא אבירים אלא איברים, and it says that the man is לחם אבירים, אבירים is really malachim, but he says means eivarim, the limbs, דבר שנבלע ברמ״ח איברים, something that's absorbed into the 248 eivarim. אלא מה אני מקיים ויד תהיה לך מחוץ למחנה? So what's the pshat that they needed this hook, this the shovel? דברים שמביאים להם ממדינת הים, is like we said before, things that they brought from other places. That was. דבר אחר לחם אבירים אכל איש. Another pshat when it says לחם אבירים אכל איש, who does it go the ish on? Moshe. Now pashut we say לחם אבירים אכל איש goes on every Yid, that the man was לחם אבירים that people ate. But now he's saying it goes on Yehoshua. And יהושע שיורד לו מן כנגד כל ישראל. He got man as much as all the Yidden. מעשה שהיה. ו Moshe Rabbeinu went to הר סיני, so it says Yehoshua went along with him. Moshe went up the mountain, Yehoshua stayed down there. And he stayed there for all 40 days. Now,
what did he do for food? He didn't go into the machaneh because when they made the egel he didn't even know what was going on. He was sitting there and he said to Moshe something's happening in the machaneh. What did he do for food? The man came down where he was. According to this pshat, he was standing there and the man came down. Now how much came down? In other words, in other place came down for all the Yidden and the same amount came down here. 40 days he doesn't need That's what's mashma No, I think everyday, that's what's mashma over here, כנגד כל ישראל. And the stomach accepts and so much so that it was like a braining. But it, but it says that the man no matter what, what amount you took Yeah, but the she'eilah how much came down. how much would he eat? Like it would be a waste, a 1000 pounds? No, he didn't eat it all. That's the man that was there, he collected from it. And the Where do we get this from? כתיב הכא, because here it says לחם אבירים אכל איש, וכתיב התם by יהושע it says איש אשר רוח בו. So it means that the לחם אבירים איש ate. Who's the? So the לחם of the אבירים is, it means that much, that that much fell there. אימא משה, But it says איש, how do you know the איש means Yehoshua, maybe Moshe? דכתיב it says והאיש משה עניו מאד. It says איש משה. So the Gemara answers, דנין איש מאיש ואין דנין איש מן האיש. By Moshe it says האיש משה, by Yehoshua it says איש, and by the מן it says לחם אבירים אכל איש. So we compare איש to איש, not איש to האיש. Why doesn't it give a simple teirutz that Moshe Rabbeinu was in shamayim and he was on the earth. What does he Moshe Rabbeinu didn't need מן, he was only in shamayim. בפשטות it means Moshe also, some of Midrash does say. Midrash it says לחם אבירים אכל איש, זה משה. But when he was in למעלה, he ate it was a different מן It says it's לחם של מלאכי השרת. It was a different מן. So it's a type of מן, whatever it's stam in a different דרגא, but it's the מן is the food of the מלאכים. לחם לא אכלתי ומים לא שתיתי. Yeah, they call it the regular food, according to this peshat. לחם לא אכלתי ומים לא שתיתי. He ate regularly, he only ate the mann, the mann was a chidush that everyone ate the mann. But that's what it says, that he ate מן לחם של מלאכי השרת. איש האלקים? הא? Isn't there a lashon about Moshe Rabbeinu, איש האלקים? Yeah. Also they say Because besides Tehillim it says וילך משה וזאת הברכה אשר ברך משה איש האלקים. איש האלקים. I thought of I thought of another teshuvah also. It's a good she'eilah. You could compare it to איש of Moshe, it says Moshe, not האיש, it says איש אלקים, but there it says איש אלקים. Word אלקים is a connected to איש and here it's סתם איש. איש האלקים is a title, it's not איש. It's איש האלקים, and here it's איש. It could be that we're I'm just throwing in a sevara. like a rabbi. Yeah. He said when somebody's niftar Yeah. he he didn't realize yet that he is niftar. So when he wants a cup of coffee, they give him. Sandwich, they give him. And he's eating and drinks. There is the period of time between when he niftar till he realize that he is a dead man. Right. But they say the Kabbalah says that he you know, he desire everyday in the morning coffee, they give him. He didn't realize until He's talking, nobody answers. put a feather by his nose and put a feather by his nose to see if he's still alive. You have Oh, he says when he's stuck in bed, but in he's dead already. He's not used to it. He's Übergang. But the peshat of the Alter Rebbe, the Alter Rebbe bring a peshat that's really the cloud. He had the the anan basically that through the ענן משה got basically What do you mean? It wasn't needed food. Bifshatot he didn't eat at all. It says מים לא לחם לא אכלתי ומים לא שתיתי. Bifshatot he didn't Over there he's talking about the anan. Which is different than than Eliyahu HaNavi. It says Eliyahu HaNavi also for 40 days didn't eat. So there it's different. But not for the Afterwards then he says it says that בכח אכילה ההיא that he ate before That food lasted for 40 days. That looks like he didn't eat food. Okay. Zogt
די Gemara ווייטער, sha'alu talmidav et Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, talmidim asked רבי שמעון בן יוחאי, מפני מה לא ירד לישראל להם לישראל מן פעם אחת בשנה? Why didn't it come out once a year? You should go and take and put it into storage and you have enough for all year. Why did they have every day to go and collect? אמר, he said, אמשול לך משל, I'll give you a mashal. למה הדבר דומה? What is like? מלך בשר ודם, like a king שהיה לו בן, he had a son. וקבע לו פרנסתו פעם אחת בשנה, he says, \"Once a year I'll give you your money and you'll have your money for a year.\" לא היה מקביל פני אביו אלא פעם אחת בשנה. So when did he come to see his father? Once a year. עמד וקבע לו פרנסתו בכל יום, says, \"Okay, every day I'm going to give you a little bit.\" He'll come every day. לא ראוי לאותו הבן שיקבל פני אביו בכל יום ויום? Isn't it that he's going to come every day? Same thing. כך ישראל, the Yidden also. מי שיש The man was special holy food. How could they What did they give to the animals to eat? Huh? Did they give the man to the animals too? Probably not. You said that they were running around It says the goyim taste it Even from the water All this, the man melted in, and then game that food that It tasted delicious. A deer that they caught That's how they knew had the taste of the man. how delicious the man was. Okay. But even the goyim, yeah. But couldn't they have bought a food, animal food, from Huh? couldn't they have had animal food? from where? They bought from the peddlers who came through the desert from overseas? Maybe. Maybe. And a lot of בהמות. Very a lot. You say 90? How do you get food for so many No, that's the donkeys. Yeah, donkeys, yeah. כך ישראל, the Yidden, too. מי שיש לו ד' וה' בנים, a person has four or five children, היה דואג ואומר, were and said, שמא למחר אין המן יורד.
Every day they were worrying, maybe tomorrow there won't be man. ונמצאו בניו, and they say, מתים ברעב. They were Every day they were worried, maybe their children will die and want food tomorrow, because they only have for today, and they finished eating it at night, there's nothing left. What's it going to be tomorrow? ונמצאו כל ישראל מכוונים את לבם לאביהם שבשמים. So every day they had to think about the Eibershter, every day they had to be mitpallel, every day they had to have bitachon in the Eibershter. So they had to have bitachon, this brought them to think about the Eibershter, that's why the Eibershter made it. But the simplest difference would be why would they want to carry the money in the desert? דבר אחר, another reason, שאוכלים אותו כשהוא חם. First of all, they should eat fresh. Every day should be fresh. And דבר אחר, ממשא הדרך. Another pshat is, because of the because of the load. They slept for a year. Imagine they have to schlep it around, and they have to first of all, even to go to take it, it took the big trucks to the big wagons to take for a year's supply. And then later on, when they moved, they had to So, therefore, the Eibershter, it's a simple reason why the Eibershter made it another nes, no problem. If there's another nes, it was light as a feather, didn't weigh anything. Right, one place 19 years, another place also a long period. Yeah. So it's not the traveling. The pashut pshat is not just the traveling. Just the collecting. Going to collect it, they had to schlep such a משא. It would be a long So, the But the question is, couldn't it made once a week? They could have made warehouses, exactly so. Oh, warehouses? If they schlep once to just just to collect everything. Think about it. Full for a year. It could be he feeds him every day because you want to make sure that he stays righteous and he This is This is the same thing, no? This is the vort here. That they should be מכוון לבם לאביהם שבשמים. Okay. With all the food Huh? All the kids, the father? They collect With all the food, Oh, I mean, they didn't know any better. With all the food, with all the riches, everything they Instead of what they were, they would worry about the man. Yeah, yeah. Because they wanted the spiritual stuff. Everyone out?