Could Outsiders Really See the Ark and Cherubim?
Could Outsiders Really See the Ark and Cherubim?
Part of Beit Hamikdash · 23:45
A detailed sugya on the Ark's visibility, the Rambam's classification of it as part of the Temple structure, and the thirteen curtains that covered the First versus Second Temple.
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讝讗讙讟 讚讬 Gemara. Here we're holding middle of 诪状讟 on top of the 注诪讜讚. 讗诪专 专讘 拽讟讬谞讗, 专讘 拽讟讬谞讗 said, 讘砖注讛 砖讛讬讜 讬砖专讗诇 注讜诇讬谉 诇专讙诇, when the Yidden went up to Yerushalayim for 注诇讬讬讛 诇专讙诇, in the middle, between 诪状讟 and 谞壮, in the middle. 诪讙诇诇讬谉 诇讛诐 讗转 讛驻专讜讻转, what they would do is they'd open up the 驻专讜讻转 of the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, 讜诪专讗讬谉 诇讛诐 讗转 讛讻专讜讘讬诐, and they would show the Yidden the 讗专讜谉, and the Yidden would see the 讻专讜讘讬诐 on top of the 讗专讜谉, 砖讛讬讜 诪注讜专讬谉 讝讛 讘讝讛, and the 讻专讜讘讬诐 would look that they were like hugging each other, touching each other. 讜讗讜诪专讬诐 诇讛诐, and they would say to the 讗讬讚谉, 专讗讜 讞讬讘转讻诐 诇驻谞讬 讛诪拽讜诐, look how beloved you are by 讛砖诐, 讻讞讬讘转 讝讻专 讜谞拽讘讛, hugging like a man and a woman, and this is how the Aibershter loves you. Okay, this is what Rav Ketina said. 诪讜转讬讘 专讘 讞住讚讗, so Rav Chasda has a kashya. The pasuk it says, 讜诇讗 讬讘讗讜 诇专讗讜转 讻讘诇注 讗转 讛拽讚砖, the 诇讜讬讬诐 shouldn't come to see when the holy 讻诇讬诐 are swallowed in, are covered. 讗诪专 专讘 讬讛讜讚讛 讗诪专 专讘, 专讘 讬讛讜讚讛 讗诪专 专讘 said, what does that mean? 讘砖注转 讛讻谞住转 讻诇讬诐 诇谞专转讬拽 砖诇讛诐, when they put the 讻诇讬诐 into their covers, so the 诇讜讬讬诐 shouldn't see. So the 讻讛谞讬诐 would first come, cover up the 讻诇讬诐, cover everything up, and then the 诇讜讬讬诐 were able to come in, because no one was able to see. The Aibershter didn't want in the 诪砖讻谉 that this by this is that in Chumash, in the 诪砖讻谉. So the Aibershter didn't want that the people should see it. So how do we see now that that that they used to open up the 驻专讜讻转 and they would see the 讗专讜谉? That's the ultimate. Again, that's out of all the 讻诇讬诐, this is the real 讻诇讬. Yeah.
Even though according to the Rambam it's not a keli, it's even more than a keli. The Rambam when he counts the kelim of the Mishkan, of the Beit Hamikdash, he doesn't mention the aron: Shulchan, Menorah, the mizbeach. Because according to the Rambam, this is part of the building. This is There's certain furniture which is furniture of a house, and there are certain things which is part of the house. Or imagine, I'm just giving a mashal, you have a sink in the house. A sink is not part of the building, but that's a house must have a sink. A couch, that's already furniture. So according to the Rambam, because we see the Rambam when he mentions what the kelim are supposed to be, he doesn't mention the aron. So the Rebbe explains that the Rambam holds that the aron is part of the bayit. But the bottom line is here they showed the aron, which they shouldn't have shown. 讗诪专 专讘 谞讞诪谉, so Rav Nachman said, I'll tell you. It depends whether it is the Mishkan or the Beit Hamikdash. 诪砖诇 诇讻诇讛, mashal to a 讻诇讛, 讻诇 讝诪谉 砖讘讘讬转 讗讘讬讛, in those days, when he got engaged, they gave him kiddushin, then for a year, even though she was an arusah, she was not a nesuah. She would stay home with her father, and then after a year, they would go to nisuin, chuppah, and then she would live with her husband. So while she's in her father's house, 爪谞讜注讛 诪讘注诇讛, she's very modest even with her husband. 讻讬讜谉 砖讘讗转 诇讘讬转 讞诪讬讛, when she comes to her father-in-law's house, when she moves in with her husband, so then 讗讬谞讛 爪谞讜注讛 诪讘注诇讛, then she's already closer to her husband, and the 诇砖讜谉 讛讙诪专讗 a lot of times is 诇讬讘讛 讙住 讘讜. So they feel comfortable, and then she's not so intimidated by him. So that's the answer that he gave here also. That in the
Mishkan, which was then the beginning, then it was like before she got married, yes, she's still she already knows her husband, she's an arusah, but she still has to be covered. She's still more modest from her husband. So the Eibishter didn't want, no one should see. But the second pasuk, the one that we're talking later when they opened up the parochet, that was already in the Beit Hamikdash. In the Beit Hamikdash, there things were different, there already they were closer. So then it says you're allowed to look. That's what he said, that's what that's the answer. We'll see. The Gemara's not finished yet. 诪讜转讬讘 专讘 讞谞讗 讘专 专讘 拽讟讬谞讗, so Rav Chana bar Ketina asks, 诪注砖讛 讘讻讛谉 讗讞讚, we learned this before, 砖讛讬讛 诪转注住拽 讜讻讜诇讬. The Gemara doesn't doesn't fold it over again, but the Gemara tells the story that there was a kohen, he was involved, he was in the 讚讬专 讛注爪讬诐, in the room where they keep the wood, and his axe fell or whatever it is, and he saw, he noticed that the floor in one place was different than the floor in the rest of the room. And the Gemara says, 讬讚注讜 讘讘讬专讜专, 讘讬讬讞讜讚, they knew for sure that because the aron is there, so this goes according to the opinion that the aron was hidden in the 讚讬专 讛注爪讬诐. And what happened? A fire came out and burned him. He died. Why? Because the Eibershter was, see, they were afraid that they'll uncover it and they'll see it. So we see that even in the Beis Hamikdash Here we see it does. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, he said, 谞转讙专砖讛 拽讗 讗诪专转? Oh, this was the second Beis Hamikdash. Second Beis Hamikdash, it's like a wife that was already divorced. And 谞转讙专砖讛 讜讞讝专讛 诇讞讬讘转讛 讛专讗砖讜谞讛. Oh, when she divorced, even though after you divorce and you come back, there's still the feeling goes back like before that you're not so comfortable with each other. So therefore, it comes out like this: in the Mishkan, it had to be covered, in the second Beis Hamikdash, it had to be covered, in the first Beis Hamikdash, in the first Beis Hamikdash they were married, so the first Beis Hamikdash didn't have to be covered, because there she's already like a wife who is more comfortable, but then after you get divorced and then you come back again, if you come back again, it's not. Truth is, they didn't give a get, that's what the Gemara says that, there's a pasuk: 讗讬讝讛 讗讬讝讛 住驻专 讻专讬转讜转 讗砖专 砖诇讞转讬 讗诪讻诐? The Gemara says in another place, the Eibershter had a ta'anah to the Yidden, like, doch, and you went with others. So it's like a wife who was not faithful to her husband. So the navi says in the name of the of the Yidden, \"Well, you divorced us. If a person divorces his wife, 讻诇讜诐 讬砖 诇讜 注诇讬讛? What, you got ta'anot to her? What is she supposed to do?\" So the Eibershter answers, \"讗讬讝讛 住驻专 讻专讬转讜转? Where did I divorce? We're only separated, only 讻讗砖讛 砖讛诇讱 讘注诇讛 诇诪讚讬谞转 讛讬诐, like a woman that her husband left her, and he went away somewhere, but didn't divorce her. So if you're not divorced, you can have ta'anot. So that's not a real divorce, it's so-so.\" I guess they opened the whole door of the heichal also. They stood outside in the in the in the 注讝专转 谞砖讬诐 or even 注讝专转 讬砖专讗诇, and they opened up the door of the heichal, and then they opened up the parochet. No, a part was blocked, part of the entrance, but somewhere part was not, so they could see. I guess not much, but they could see. Then the Gemara asks: what's the peshat here? This is I mentioned yesterday this kashya: 讘诪讗讬 注住拽讬谞谉, what are we talking about? 讗讬 谞讬诪讗 讘诪拽讚砖 专讗砖讜谉, if we're talking about the first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, 诪讬 讛讜讬 驻专讜讻转? There was no parochet. We learned that in the first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 there was a wall between the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 and the 讛讬讻诇. The second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, it says, they didn't know whether that wall, which was an 讗诪讛, is part of the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, or part of the 拽讜讚砖. So what they did was they didn't build, they built two 驻专讜讻转's, and that was the division between the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 and the 拽讜讚砖. First 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, there was a wall. So if we're talking about the first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, this is when they showed them the the the the this the 讗专讜谉, it can't be. 诪讬 讛讜讬 驻专讜讻转? There was no 驻专讜讻转 there. There was a wall! We say they opened the 驻专讜讻转. 讗诇讗, 讘诪拽讚砖 砖谞讬? There was a 驻专讜讻转. 诪讬 讛讜讬 讻专讜讘讬诐? The 讗专讜谉 wasn't there! The second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 didn't have the 讗专讜谉. So there was no such thing to show them the 讻专讜讘讬诐, the whole idea was to show them: look at the 讻专讜讘讬诐 that they're next to holding, they're hugging, to show that the Oibershter is hugging the Yidden and loves the Yidden. That couldn't be. So the 讙诪专讗 answers: 诇注讜诇诐 讘诪拽讚砖 专讗砖讜谉. 讘讗诪转, we're talking about the first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. 讜诪讗讬 驻专讜讻转? 驻专讜讻转 讚讘讘讗, the 驻专讜讻转 of the door. There was a door in that wall, wasn't there? Had to be a door, how did the how'd the 讻讛谉 讙讚讜诇 get in? So that wall had a door, and that door had a 驻专讜讻转! And that 驻专讜讻转 is the one they opened, that they should be able to see through. So it's in the first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. Right, so I said the 讛讬讻诇 was opened also. They opened all the doors. Now the 砖讗诇讛, we have to go into the 讞砖讘讜谞讜转 of the This is lower, a floor lower, and then there was a higher level, and then steps, and a higher level, so how could you see from here when this is a lower level? But if you're standing, because it says even if you're standing outside, you could see. If you're standing, which was a lower level, you could see. 讛谞讜讙注 to the 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛, when they brought the 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛, they had to do it outside, 讞讜抓, 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛 was made outside. But it says that you have to spritz the blood 谞讻讞 驻谞讬 讗讛诇 诪讜注讚, towards, facing, and you have to see inside. And that's the reason why the 讞砖讘讜谉 of the wall, the way they made this and the and the 砖注专讬诐, was all that when you stand down, you could see, you'll see the bottom of the higher level, but not much, but you'll be able to see. So they were able to see. But it was the the 驻专讜讻转 of the door.
讚讗诪专 专讘 讝讬专讗 讗诪专 专讘, 专讘 讝讬专讗 said in the name of 专讘: 砖诇砖 注砖专讛 驻专讜讻转 讛讬讜 讘诪拽讚砖. There were 13 驻专讜讻转's in the 诪拽讚砖: 砖讘注 讻谞讙讚 砖讘注讛 砖注专讬诐, seven by the seven gates; 砖转讬诐, two of them, 讗讞转 注诇 驻转讞讜 砖诇 one by the opening of the 讛讬讻诇, I mean of the the 讛讬讻诇, 讜讗讞转 注诇 驻转讞讜 砖诇 讗讜诇诐, one at the door of the 讗讜诇诐. Which means like this: the the way the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, we all know the way the shape of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 was: outside you had the big wall around the 注讝专讛, then in the middle you had the building. The shape of the building was three compartments: you had the front was the 讗讜诇诐, then you had the 讛讬讻诇 which is 拽讜讚砖 where you had the 谞专讜转, and then after that you had the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐. And there were doors in between. There was a 砖注专 of the 讗讜诇诐, there's a 砖注专 of the 讛讬讻诇, the 砖注专 of the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, openings. That's what happened. So you had seven by the seven gates, one by the opening of the 讛讬讻诇, one by the opening of the 讗讜诇诐, which is the first part, 砖转讬诐 讘讚讘讬专, two were by that separation, this is the second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, the separation between 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 and the and 拽讜讚砖, which is called the 讚讘讬专. In the Tanach, that area of in between is called the 讚讘讬专. 讜砖转讬诐 讻谞讙讚谉 讘注诇讬讛. And then, on the second floor, because the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 had a second floor, which was completely empty, nothing there, but the levels of 拽讚讜砖讛 on the second floor were similar to the bottom floor, and that's why in the second floor they had on the floor 住讬诪谞讬诐, like little pegs, till here is 注讝专转 谞砖讬诐, from here is 注讝专转 not 注讝专转, because it's the the building, till here is the from here is the 讗讜诇诐, from here is the 讛讬讻诇. So they had 砖注专讬诐 up there, 驻专讜讻转'谉 in between the the second floor over the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, between that and the 讛讬讻诇. So derveyl we see that they had 驻专讜讻转'谉, so many 驻专讜讻转'谉. So when it says they opened the 驻专讜讻转, it could be talking about the first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. Takeh, and there was a 驻专讜讻转 there, too. There was a 驻专讜讻转 by that opening of the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐. So the roofs of the 讛讬讻诇 and the 讛讬讻诇? It wasn't a roof, it was a second floor. Oh, no. This was the bottom. But this but the amount the amount of 驻专讜讻转'谉 includes the ones on top. So there was a second floor above the above the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐. Above the whole thing! Above the whole, yeah. And the second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 was much taller than the first. The first 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 was only 20 amah high. Second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 was 100 amah high. 100 amah! 40 amah was the first floor, then there was a whole bunch in the the in between, the ceiling and the roof, whatever, and then there was another 40 amah on top. And then there was a ceiling on top, that all together was 100 amah. Did they use that floor for anything? For nothing, never! But when you looked at it, you walked over and you saw the building, imagine a building of 100 amah! The minimum of 100 amah is 150 feet, if an amah is a foot and a half. According to some opinions, an amah is up to two feet. Imagine 200 amah, 150, I mean 200 feet, a building like that. How many how many stories is that? 20-story building! You walked over So when I always think of it, you always think of the kohanim went into the 讛讬讻诇, so you imagine they went into like a room like this, okay, not like this, this is a low ceiling, a higher ceiling. They went into a room that from where they were standing on the floor till the ceiling was was almost 40 amah, 80 feet! Imagine! They went into a hall that you just get That's why the pictures that they give out in all these booklets, they always show showed the room and the kohanim are just tiny. The room is till here and just because that's how it was, the proportion, just to give us a picture. Anyway, So they made elevators or something? They didn't have any Yeah, but they used to go sometimes to the second floor in order to fix something. If there's something broke and they have to fix it in the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, how did they get in? They would go from the second floor and they would let him down in a box and they would lower him, and he would come down and to fix it, and he was closed in the box and he only could see whatever he has to fix. But how did they get up there? With a big ladder, I guess. And then they lowered it down with a rope, all the way down. That's the only time they went there. They had the 诪住讬讘讛 for that, the steps there. Went the 诪住讬讘讛, did the 诪住讬讘讛, went, yeah, 诪住讬讘讛, that. Okay, 专讘 讗讞讗 讘专 讬注拽讘 讗诪专, 专讘 讗讞讗 says no, 诇注讜诇诐 诪拽讚砖 砖谞讬. It's talking about the second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, like we said. But the question is, the second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 didn't have keruvim, so what does it mean they showed them the keruvim? It doesn't mean the 讻专讜讘讬诐 of the aron. 讻专讜讘讬诐 讚爪讬专讬 讗讻讜转讗 讛讜讜 拽讬讬诪讬. On the walls of the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 they had all kinds of pictures, pictures of 讻专讜讘讬诐, beautiful designs. 讚讻转讬讘 it says, 讜讗转 讻诇 拽讬专讜转 讛讘讬转 诪住讘, 诪拽诇注讜转, 驻转讜讞讬 诪拽诇注讜转, 驻转讜讞讬 诪拽诇注讜转 means they were pictures like made of of like 诪拽诇注讜转 means braided. That looked and 讻专讜讘讬诐 讜转讬诪讜专讜转 讜驻讟讜专讬 爪讬爪讬诐 讜爪驻诐 讝讛讘 诪讬砖专 注诇 讛诪讞拽讛, and it says all kinds of designs they had there. 讜讻转讬讘 讻诪注专 讗讬砖 讜诇讬讜转, and that happened, 讻诪注专 讗讬砖 讜诇讬讜转. 诪讗讬 讻诪注专 讗讬砖 讜诇讬讜转? 讗诪专 专讘讛 讘专 专讘 砖讬诇讗, 讻讗讬砖 讛诪注讜专讛 讘诇讜讬讛 砖诇讜. 诇讜讬讛 means your escort, your your partner, your second half. And 诪注讜专讛, 讻诪注专 means 诪注讜专讛 means hugging. So this is what they saw, and there were pictures there of different people or maybe the same as the 讻专讜讘讬诐, and that's what they saw when they opened it up to show that the pictures, I guess the pictures, if the pictures were painted like that and it stayed that way, what does that show? Showing a picture! But it seems it changed, like it says, if they did retzono shel Makom, then they would be hugging; if they did not retzono shel Makom, they would That's the pshat there, the pictures themselves. Pictures themselves, like the 讻专讜讘讬诐. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So according to this pshat, whenever, you know, when it says that they showed them and it was not it was not the 讗专讜谉. According to the first pshat, it was the 讗专讜谉. And they showed it to them. But this according to this pshat, it was the pictures on the wall. No light inside the Kodesh HaKodashim. Yeah. No. How would you see from outside picture? Because the 注讝专讛 had light, the 讛讬讻诇 had had windows. 注讝专讛 didn't have a ceiling. No light. No light, but there was the 讛讬讻诇, but the 讛讬讻诇 had a lot of windows, and it had 砖拽讜驻讬诐 讗讟讜诪讬诐, you know the famous No light was in the Kodesh HaKodashim. During the middle of the day. So the If you open the door, certain light came in, I guess. You could see something. Take a picture in a dark room from the outside, you would hardly see. Yeah, but I guess if you look good you could see. Well, he's asking a good she'eilah. The Kodesh HaKodashim had no windows, and it was dark.
How could they see it? But the 讛讬讻诇 had windows, and it looked, the lights came in, I guess during the day you could Another miracle, huh? And the avodah zarah, all they saw They had no torches? How do you When did they use When did they use torches? They No, they used the torches, it says, when they went down in the basement when they had to go They would go around with torches if it was in the middle of the week. Shabbos, the Rambam says they would put before Shabbos torches all over in case only, but like this, when did they use torches to go inside the Beis Hamikdash? Somebody said that gave off lights, like it gave off gave off light. There is something. Like what he brought over here that the pictures they changed, it says, no, and it's late from different sources. Yeah, no, but otherwise say even here, otherwise what's the re'ayah? Want to show them, look, the Aibershter loves loves a Yid, show, because I made a picture of Because they were like that, maybe. So that's what they show. So he said nobody ever saw it once, but he wanted to show them that the Aibershter still loves you. That's the famous Midrash that when Nevuchadnetzar came and they opened the came to the Beis Hamikdash and they found the 讗专讜谉, they found the 讗专讜谉 that the that's what it says, the 讻专讜讘讬诐 were hugging each other. That's right. But he's talking about The kushya is that the time of the churban was definitely 讗讬谉 注讜砖讬谉 专爪讜谞讜 砖诇 诪拽讜诐, and that's why there was a churban. So that's what the Rebbe has all the arichut that the omek of the churban is really for the gilui and it shows the Eibershter's love, all kinds of things. That only fits according to the first pshat that the keruvim are the ones on the aron that according to the second pshat, this never happened like that by the aron, it's only by the picture. Okay. So the Gemara write, 讗诪专 专讬砖 诇拽讬砖, this 讙诪专讗, 讘砖注讛 砖谞讻谞住讜 注讻讜状诐 诇讛讬讻诇, when the Yidden
When the goyim came into the heichal, which means, and then they went to the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, 诪爪讗讜 讻专讜讘讬诐 讛诪注讜专讬诐 讝讛 讘讝讛. So they found the keruvim, and the keruvim at that time were hugging each other. And this obviously goes according to the second, the wall, but look, it fits more to the first pshat. Anyway, 讛讜爪讬讗讜诐 诇砖讜拽, they took out the 讗专讜谉, 讜讗诪专讜, and they said, look, 讬砖专讗诇 讛诇诇讜, look at this nation, these 讬讬讚谉, 砖讘专讻转谉 讘专讻讛 讜拽诇诇转谉 拽诇诇讛. They're such great people. A Yid A Yid give a brachah, it's a brachah. And a Yid, it's a klalah, it's a klalah. They're so special. And look what they're involved, 注住拽讬谉 讘讚讘专讬诐 讛诇诇讜. Look what they're involved. Look what they have there. A man, a zachar and a nekeivah, a man and a woman, a female, a male and a female hugging. I mean that's that's what this thing is! 诪讬讚 讛讝讬诇讜诐. And right away, the Yidden became gring geshetzt, became light, became in the eyes of the goyim. They stopped The respect that they had got lost because of this. 砖谞讗诪专, it says, 讻诇 诪讻讘讚讬讛 讛讝讬诇讜讛. All those that used to respect it started being mezalzel. 讻讬 专讗讜 注专讜转讛. They saw the ervah. In other words, they saw something that's not, in their eyes, was not proper, was not That the goyim didn't understand really what this is. To us it's the opposite, and the goyim take the same thing farkert. They take it as a bad thing. Bichlal, a different Midrash it says that when they went in the they looted the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 and when they went in and they found the 讗专讜谉, ah, they said, till now we thought that these people are serving one God. Now I see what they have there. This is their this is their 注讘讜讚讛 讝专讛. This is they have something hidden there and this is their God. So also they didn't understand. Okay, that's pashut, that's a goyishe kop. It's not a goyishe kop, it's very simple. I was by a GE, visit all the institutes, yeah. So it gathers all Jewish people, and it's called a ritual service. This priest came in. \"Wait, is this prayer?\" \"Prayer, what's prayer? Running around, putting on tefillin, what's that?\" Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, it is very surprising that National Geographic mentions Holy of Holies. We don't have any any picture. That's the only place Not as a not as a god. But still, to have something That's why the And
No, the Rashi says in the end of Parashat Parashat Parashat Yitro that the Eibershter, after 诪转谉 转讜专讛, had to bavarnen to make sure that we shouldn't make an 讗专讜谉 with 讻专讜讘讬诐 in every shul. In every shul. Because Rashi says, 诇讗 转注砖讜谉 讗转讬 讗诇讛讬 讻住祝 讜讗诇讛讬 讝讛讘, so Rashi says what it means is to not make the 讻专讜讘讬诐 in every 讘讬转 讻谞住转. There would have been a hava amina, because the Eibershter wanted there should be some place 讘讙砖诪讬讜转 down here where his 砖讻讬谞讛 will come through, so he made it as the 讻专讜讘讬诐. 讗讝 讗 诪注谞讟砖 拽注谉 讝讬讱 讗讬讬谞专注讚谉, maybe in that case, every shul should have the 讻专讜讘讬诐. So that's one of the 讘讬讗讜专讬诐 that the Rebbe connects to the egel. How did the Yidden make an egel? You got not normal! They just saw 诪转谉 转讜专讛, 讙讬诇讜讬 讗诇讜拽讜转, and they made an 注讙诇, 驻砖讜讟 注讘讜讚讛 讝专讛? So the Rebbe says it didn't mean 注讘讜讚讛 讝专讛. Actually, they never said, \"We want another God.\" They said, \"We want,\" why did they make the egel? Because Moshe Rabbeinu they thought died. So they want another Moshe. Moshe Rabbeinu was a 诪诪讜爪注 between the Eibershter and the Yidden, a 诪诪讜爪注 讛诪讞讘专 not chas v'shalom Like the Kuzari, right. But the bottom line is like I've said, the Rebbe connects it, what made the Yidden think so? What made the Yidden think that make a calf and that'll be? So they said yes, that's what Rashi says, that the Yidden would have a hava amina The Eibershter, what makes it makes sense, the Eibershter said, \"Don't do it!\" That the 讻专讜讘讬诐 should be something through which the 讙讬诇讜讬 讗诇讜拽讜转 will come. And the
讻专讜讘讬诐 is the place where the 讙讬诇讜讬 砖讻讬谞讛 came. Where did Moshe the Eibershter speak to Moshe? Through the 讻专讜讘讬诐. So the 讻专讜讘讬诐 do have something there, not chas v'shalom a God that's that's 注讘讜讚讛 讝专讛, but the Eibershter does bring it, and he has a certain place where he goes through 讘讚专讱 诪注讘专 and comes to the world. You know, like Torah Or explains in 驻专砖转 转专讜诪讛, the 讻专讜讘讬诐, 讻专讜讘 讗讞讚 诪拽爪讛 诪讝讛 and it says 讻专讜讘讬诐 is 讻专讜讘讬, is 讝注讬专 讗谞驻讬谉, like that. That's what I You're really not allowed to have in your home like Yeah, you're not allowed to, right? And in shul, obviously, the same thing? No, if the if no, how could you have it in the in the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐? Because the Eibershter said. So the Yidden would think that maybe the Eibershter meant that, too. So the Eibershter said, \"I didn't mean it.\" Not he changed his mind, it's only 讻专讜讘讬诐 you could have in the shul. Somebody took the Rebbe's picture and he like carved it in silver, No, if it's not three-dimensional. No, it's sticking out. Sticking out, but that's not three-dimensional. Like they made the coin, you know there's a whole tumult then when they made the coin of the when the government made a coin of the Rebbe, and it's also sticks out a little bit, but it's not It's not a full face, not a full. It's a different story. No, we're talking here about making a shape of an a 爪讜专讛 of an sculpture? Yeah. Yeah. I never saw it. I I have one. You
remember you gave it to Shmuli, I think, as a bar mitzvah present? Or to someone of my kids you gave it as a bar mitzvah present, to one of my kids. No, they made a whole bunch. They sold it for $100 This was 15 years ago, maybe? 10 years, more? Not more. And the government made it, or what? Yeah, to honor the Rebbe, different sizes. Oh, yeah? Yeah, there's a big one like this size, a big one like this size. I don't know, the one I have is like this way, this way. Next to my father's, my father's building, whatever that means. That's what we do. What? I always wanted to write my own sevara, to make a chiluk in Shulchan Aruch, but that's my own sevara. But to be in Chabad and just what it says you have to do like an alef, and have a Shulchan Aruch, like Kaddish, and Shemoneh Esrei, they have to do that. There's an ohel in the Gemara, Shemoneh Esrei, Kaddish. Okay, so that's By the way, after Maariv, is the 砖讬讞讛 砖讬注讜专. Everyone is invited.