The Ship Stuck at Sea Because of a Forbidden Word
The Ship Stuck at Sea Because of a Forbidden Word
Part of Farbrengens · 10:46
The Baal Shem Tov's explanation of a magical text that stopped a ship at sea, its connection to the Noda B'Yehuda, and Rav Huna's advice on learning from a greater scholar.
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בעיא למיזל בהדייהו, I wanna go, she wants to go along with them. ולא יסבוה, they didn't let her. They didn't want this lady to come along. אמרה היא מילתא, she said something. אסרתה לארבא, and the ship couldn't go. Said some שם טומאה, of כישוף. אמרו אינהו מילתא, so they said something, a שם קדושה, שריוה, and it started going again. Unlocked it. אמרה להו, she said to them: מאי אעביד לכו? What can I do to In other words, what can I My magic, black magic won't work on you. And why? דלא מקנחיתו בחספא, you're not מקנח, you know, wipe yourself with with חספא, with חרס. So that's some of the things that and if you do some of the things that she said that you're yeah, the כשפים, the כישוף, will have an effect. But if you do Then you don't do it, the כישוף can't catch on you. ולא קטליתו כינה אמנייכו, and you don't kill a louse on your clothes. Lice, lice. Yeah, on your clothes. ולא שילפיתו ירקא ואכליתו מחובישא דאסרי גינאי. And when you eat a vegetable, where they used to sell the vegetable and they sell it like wrapped up as a whole pile, so you don't just schlep out one and eat it. You untie it and take one by one. I don't know what the inyan is, but if you do that, then my כישוף won't affect you.
Here's the famous story with the Baal Shem Tov on this. It's disgusting. Huh? Disgusting. Knock it off and then kill it. Yeah, disgusting. But kill it, not on the clothing. Yeah, the point. לתלמידי חכמים they can't have a stain on their shirt. חייב מיתה. Yeah. Yeah, could be. Here Here's the story from the Baal Shem Tov. He writes it, I mean Rabbi Yaakov Kadner in his stories, in Sipurim Noraim. Once, there was a place, they spoke about Baal Shem Tov, someone said the Baal Shem Tov is a big tzadik, but he doesn't know how to learn, in nigleh. Anyway, so someone just said a vort for the Baal Shem Tov, to show that he knew. On this Gemara, Baal Shem Tov said that he knows what they said in order to start the ship going again. They said They said מכשפה לא תחיה. And he said, and what Yeah, the pasuk, a מכשפה, a magician should not live. And he said, \"I'll tell you even more. When it says here, she said מילתא, she said something, then it says אמרו אינהו מילתא, they said מילתא. So he says that really the word מילתא is supposed to say מילת. חסר אל\"ף. And מילת is supposed to have a rashei teivot line inside, which means, אמרו אינהו מיל\"ת, מ-ל-ת is a rashei teivot, מכשפה לא תחיה.\" So they went to an old Shas, from a כתב יד, and they found like like that. And it said here, אמרו אינהו מיל\"ת with with שטרייכלאך inside. And they said they bring the story here? They bring it in Menachem Meshiv Nefesh... That's amazing. Like that, huh? And see him bring from the מקור, which is Rabbi Yaakov Kadner. That's the מקור. Who's Yaakov Who's Rabbi Yaakov Kadner? He had a מחותן in the נכד of the Rebbe. Who's this guy? Where is it, say here? Menachem Meshiv Nefesh... Why, some people thought that the Baal Shem Tov didn't know how to learn? Yeah, that's what he claimed. Huh? Send history, Misnagdim. Lying, lying. They have no proof who his teachers were, doesn't know anything. Yeah. All the things we have by us they they don't accept it, they don't believe in it. But you see, such a they brought it from an old manuscript in Gemara. Of course. Of course it is. Is it
true that the Baal Shem Tov was like the Noda BiYehuda's brother-in-law or something? Far, a far cousin. Far cousin. Wife. His sister married the Noda BiYehuda, I think. No. At the same time? No, no, no. His wife is a cousin of a far cousin. Huh? To who? To the Noda BiYehuda. A daughter? Who's the one that sent the daughter? Coins in the grave. His daughter went to him. He's called the Noda BiYehuda. Wife. His daughter. Anyway, they... I always heard it was a daughter. Okay, yeah. They were קרובים to the Baal Shem Tov. When the Baal Shem Tov used to come to בראד, he used to stay in his house. But he didn't halt from, he didn't know of him. Why, because he didn't hold of him? No, they didn't know of him. Forget it, Baal Shem Tov said that the world stands a third on the Noda BiYehuda. What does that mean? Third, zechut, the world stands on three people's zechut and one of them is the Noda BiYehuda, he said. Nu, so... He even said He even said... In the name of the Baal Shem Tov, that the Baal Shem Tov's neshamah was supposed to come down, למעלה the Satan didn't let. The Satan said, \"Such a person is coming down with such a thing, it'll change the world, I have no more job.\" So they decided they're going to, so he agreed only if they when they told him that they're going to send down another neshamah which is just as great, and he's going to fight the Baal Shem Tov. And that was the Noda BiYehuda. They also say about the Noda BiYehuda, one of my great-great-great-grandfathers, David Mecharaf, the Noda BiYehuda used to tremble when he used to send a letter, because he said he was such a big tzadik. In the Noda BiYehuda you see, I think it's to him, the way he writes to him letters, תשובות. David Mecharaf. I think it's to him, I'm not sure. Look it up, with great derech eretz, mamash, with great kavod. It could be it's him, I don't know, I think it's him. Zusha, Zusha, Zusha. No, that's what he meant to the Cohen. No, that's Zusha. That has to do with the Gaon, the Vilna Gaon, nothing to do with. It doesn't say, I don't know. You're told the HaGra? No, no. Okay,
אמר ליה רב הונא, it's just a few lines, אמר ליה רב הונא לרבה בריה, Rav Huna said to his son רבה, מאי טעמא לא שכיחת קמיה דרב חסדא? Why don't you go to Rav Chisda to his shiurim, דמחדדי שמעתיה, he's very sharp and you have what to learn there? אמר ליה, he said, מאי איזיל לגביה, why should I go to him? דכי אזלינא לגביה, when I went to him, מותיב לי במילי דעלמא, he was telling, instead of Torah he's teaching me סתם מילי דעלמא, סתם built things like... Yeah, אמר לי, and this is what he told me, מאן דעייל לבית הכסא, when you go into the got toilet, לא ליתיב בהדיא, you don't like rush into, it'll help you, ולא לימחוץ טפי, don't like press, push yourself too much, דהאי כרכשתא, because the כרכשתא, like the kishke at the end of the at the bottom, אשלש שיני יתבי, is sitting there, it sits on three, like, teeth type of things. So if you kvetsh too much, דילמא משמטא שיני דכרכשתא, so it might the teeth of the כרכשתא might fall out, ואתי לידי סכנה, and it's going to become a sakanah. This is what he told me, I came to learn and this is what he's telling me. אמר ליה, so he said to him, הוא עסיק בחיי דברייתא, what are you talking about? He was telling you things that have to do with the life of a person. ואת אמרת מילי דעלמא, and you say מילי דעלמא? כל שכן דזיל לגביה, אדרבה, ודאי you should go to him. So the Gemara like this:
הנצרך לנקביו ואינו נפנה, if someone needs to go to the bathroom and doesn't go, Rav Chisda veRavina, מחלוקת Rav Chisda veRavina. חד אמר, one says, רוח רעה שולטת בו. A רוח רעה, a bad רוח, a bad spirit will be sholet on him. וחד אמר, one says, רוח זוהמא שולטת בו, a רוח of of of dirt, like your whole body starts smelling with with with, Rashi says with sweat and things like that. Why? Because you're leaving the garbage inside and you're not going. תניא, in a beraita we learned, כמאן דאמר רוח זוהמא שולטת בו, like the second opinion that says it's a רוח of dirt. דתניא, it says in a ברייתא, הנצרך לנקביו, someone has to go to the bathroom, ואוכל, and he eats before he goes, דמי לתנור שהסיקוהו על גב אפרו, like an oven that you heated it up with the ashes inside. Usually after you finish once, you take out the ashes, you put it on, but you put on top of the ashes, you burn on it, yeah. וזו היא תחלת רוח זוהמא, and the ברייתא says, this is the beginning of רוח זוהמא. So we see here and this fits the opinion רוח זוהמא. Then it says like this, I hope that It could certainly be both is true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. הוצרך לנקביו ואינו יכול להפנות, if someone needs to go to the bathroom and he can't, s'geit nisht, אמר Rav Chisda, Rav Chisda said, יעמוד וישב יעמוד וישב, stand up and sit down, stand up and sit down. רב חנן מנהרדעא אומר, he said, יסתלק לצדדין, if you were in this side, go to another side, like walk over to another side. Rav Hamnuna אמר, Rav Hamnuna said, ימשמש בצרור באותו מקום, take a little a stone and poke over there and then it'll help you. רבנן אמרי, the רבנן say, יסיח דעתו, forget about it. אמר ליה Rav Acha brei d'Rava l'Rav Ashi, Rav Ashi said to him, forget about, כל שכן דכי מסיח דעתו לא מיפני, if you forget about it and you're not even thinking about it, certainly you won't be able to go! אמר ליה, you didn't understand what I meant, יסיח דעתו מדברים אחרים, focus on it, take your mind away from other things and then when you focus on it, it'll help. אמר Rabbi Yirmiyah miDifti, Rabbi Yirmiyah miDifti said, other things. So he said like this, לדידי חזי לי ההוא טייעא, I saw this wanderer, this this Arab that he had this problem, דקם ויתיב, he got up, sat down, קם ויתיב, he got up and sat down, עד דשפך כי דירא, then it started pouring like a You want to see what the Chachamim say works? תנו רבנן, the רבנן tell like this: הנכנס לסעודת קבע, if you go into a סעודה, יהלך עשר פעמים של ארבע אמות, you should go ten times four אמות. ואמרי לה, some say, ארבע פעמים של עשר עשר אמות, four times ten אמות. It's that amount. And when to stop? So the first opinion says, stop ten times. walk four אמות and stop. The other one says, no, walk ten אמות and stop, stop four times. And then ונפנה, they go to the bathroom, ונכנס וישב במקומו, then go in and sit down in your place and have your meal. Yeah, still. They were so healthy in olden days. We get up, they'd go in the morning and in the evening. Huh? They'd go in the morning and the evening. Yeah. So it's full up in the afternoon, it's not healthy to go every half hour. Want to find something? Must be a nice chair. There'll be people here. Oy. Oy, yeah, really? Oy.