Was There a Hidden Second Floor Above the Holy of Holies?
Was There a Hidden Second Floor Above the Holy of Holies?
Part of Beit Hamikdash · 6:48
Explores the minimum amount required to fulfill the Korban Pesach, a story about eating on the roof, and the surprising idea of a stricter upper chamber above the Kodesh HaKodashim.
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holds you don't have to have a kezayit. He says you can have a 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 and you don't need 讗讻讬诇转 讻讝讬转. You have to have something? You can take a mashehu, ad'raba. You have to Yeah, so here you could have a whole, yeah. 砖谞讗诪专, it says: 讜砖讞讟讜 讗讜转讜 讻诇 拽讛诇 注讚转 讬砖专讗诇. It says the whole community 砖讞讟 it. 讜讻讬 讻诇 讛拽讛诇 砖讜讞讟讬谉? But the whole community 砖讞讟s? 讜讛诇讗 讗讬谉 砖讜讞讟 讗诇讗 讗讞讚. When it comes to a 拽专讘谉, there's only one 砖讜讞讟. Everyone 砖讞讟s it? 讗诇讗 诪诇诪讚 砖讻诇 讬砖专讗诇 讬讜爪讗讬谉 讘驻住讞 讗讞讚. It comes to tell you that all the Yidden together could be yotzei with one 拽专讘谉 驻住讞. And he holds you don't need 讗讻讬诇转 讻讝讬转. You don't need both... like it was 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专 or it was 拽专讘谉 讬讞讬讚. Yeah. 讜讻讜诇讬. 诇讙讘讬 讞讜讟 诇讙讘讬 讝讛, yeah. Yeah, we brought it 诇讙讘讬 砖讘转 here. 讝讗讙讟 讚讬 Gemara weiter, 讗诪专 专讘, 专讘 said: 讙讙讬谉 讜注诇讬讜转 诇讗 谞转拽讚砖讜. Yerushalayim or the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, same thing. There is a certain kedushah in the 注讝专讛, in the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. Then there's a lower level of kedushah in Yerushalayim. The 注讝专讛, 拽讚砖讬 拽讚砖讬诐, the higher level of 拽专讘谞讜转, you could only eat in the 注讝专讛. 拽讚砖讬诐 拽诇讬诐, the lower, like 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, 砖诇诪讬诐, these things you could eat also in Yerushalayim, but you can't eat outside Yerushalayim. Do you have to eat it on the floor? Yerushalayim is the floor, this is Yerushalayim, or the 注讝专讛 is the floor. What about a second floor? Or on the roof? The kedushah of Yerushalayim or the kedushah of the 注讝专讛, does it go for the second floor also? So 专讘 says: 讙讙讬谉 讜注诇讬讜转 诇讗 谞转拽讚砖讜. The roof or the second floor, takeh don't have the kedushah, it has to be on the bottom floor. 驻专注讙讟 讚讬 Gemara: 讗讬谞讬? It's not so! 讜讛讗诪专 专讘 诪砖讜诐 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗, Rav said 诪砖讜诐 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗, in name of Rabbi Chiya: 讻讝讬转讗 驻住讞讗 讜讛诇讬诇讗 驻拽注 讗讬讙专讗. It
says that there was a case, a time, when there were so many people involved in a 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, it was They used to sign up, they used to have a group. So there was one group that signed a lot of people. So each one got 讻驻转讜诐, got a kezayit, that's all. And so there's so many people, they were so excited and they were so enthu- And no, and and they said Hallel with such enthusiasm that it broke the roof. What's the peshat? 诪讗讬 诇讗讜, doesn't it seem 讚讗讻诇讬 讘讗讬讙专讗, they ate on the roof, 讜讗诪专讬 讘讗讬讙专讗, and they said Hallel on the roof, and that's why from great ex- I guess they were saying it and dancing and this, and and they broke the roof! So we see that you're allowed to eat on the roof! How do you say that there's no kedushah of Yerushalayim on the roof? So they fell down, everybody? I guess, yeah, what happens, I'm saying. We had a wedding in Israel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole floor went and everybody... I don't know if it mamash broke through, they fell through. 驻拽注, it's cracked the roof. I mean it it means it 讗讬讙专讗 is a roof? Uh yeah, 讗讬讙专讗. What about like an elevation like a step? Maybe because it's the ground, I don't know. If there's, you know, space, air in between it's a second floor. But if it's like a little mountain, I don't know. But according to this sevara it wouldn't be good. Why shouldn't it be anything connected to the ground? But you're not sitting on the ground. You're 诪讞讜讘专 诇拽专拽注, but you're not standing on the ground of Yerushalayim. Ah yeah, Yerushalayim has a ground, yeah. No, there's a space underneath. Okay, maybe takeh, even if it's a penthouse, you know, space, if if it's takeh like this that a second floor is not, this is also like a second floor, cuz there's a space. So it has to be mamash on the ground. But the Gemara answers: No, 诇讗. It doesn't mean that they ate there. 讚讗讻诇讬 讘讗专注讗, they ate on the ground, 讜讗诪专讬 讘讗讬讙专讗, they went up there to say 讛诇诇. And they got so excited that 驻拽注 讗讬讙专讗, it broke the the roof.
讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇 讗讜诪专, 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇 says: 注诇讬讬转 讘讬转 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, the second floor of the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, 讞诪讜专讛 诪讘讬转 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, is stricter than the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 itself, because you know the Beit Hamikdash had two floors. A second floor, he says, has a certain chumra over the first floor. And how? 砖讘讬转 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 讻讛谉 讙讚讜诇 谞讻谞住 诇讛 驻注诐 讗讞转 讘砖谞讛. In the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, in the real one, the Kohen Gadol once a year would go in. That means that as much as there's a issur to ever go in there, but once a year, the Kohen Gadol went in. 注诇讬讬转 讘讬转 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, the second floor on top, 讗讬谉 谞讻谞住讬谉 诇讛 讗诇讗 驻注诐 讗讞转 讘砖讘讜注. They only went in once in seven years. 讜讗诪专讬 诇讛, or some say, 驻注诪讬诐 讘砖讘讜注, twice in seven years. 讜讗诪专讬 诇讛, 驻注诐 讗讞转 讘讬讜讘诇, or once in the Yovel, once in 50 years. Why? 诇讬讚注 诪讛 讛讬讗 爪专讬讻讛, which to go and see if they have to fix anything. But they only went in very seldom. That means that it's as if saying that the kedushah over there is even higher kedushah. Lekabel this din. Maybe they didn't need to go in. Right, that's what I say, but we see that there was something that happened. It's a fact. I don't know if it's halachah. Remember you can't go in there, you can't go in up there either. So they're only allowed to go in once in seven years, twice, whatever. So similar to here, and here there is a din that you could go in, even even more. It was that they were only allowed, not that they... They were only allowed to go check it, and they couldn't check it stam any time. So they checked it every time to check if they see if they're correct. It doesn't mean the roof either. Huh? It doesn't mean the roof. No, no, it's a second floor. You never see that in any of those pictures, a second floor. Oh, they always... They don't show anything, there's nothing to see because it was empty. There was, the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖
When you see the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, it's very high. The second 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, the building was a hundred amah high. The bottom one was forty amah. And then there was a floor. I said we learned that, no? Yeah. There was a floor with a ceiling, with the see, all kinds of things. And then then there was 讘讬转 讚诇驻讛 for the water to go through, and on top of that, there was an aliyah. Outside you couldn't see it. Outside there was one you see one building, one wall. But inside there was a second floor, and the second floor was empty. The only thing is they had on the floor, the second floor, they had so- like a line, that this is the 拽讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐, this is the kodesh, so they should know, marks. It was I guess it is only used for a facade. They had a trapdoor, right? Huh? A trapdoor so they could go inside? They could go inside, yeah. And they couldn't be, it's like a border to go from the ceiling, then they had to go down, down. Why go all the way in? No, make it lower. Why do you have to make it so high? What would be a facade? It should look when you look outside, the building was so high to make the to make the building to heighten the building, so even though they didn't need this, so they had a second floor empty. What did they use to pull a kohen out in case he passed away? That that's he was in they put a a rope around his foot. When he went in? When he went in, yeah. And they waited and waited and waited, and if they saw a long time, come on, and they pulled him out. Pa'amonim with the bell. That they didn't use in Kodesh HaKodashim. He didn't use that when he went to the Kodesh HaKodashim? No. That was from the eight begadim. It had gold, and in Kodesh HaKodashim he couldn't go in with the golden begadim. No, I'm knowing about with the bell, little pa'amonim. That that was only on one of the eight begadim, it wasn't on the It was not the Wait, no, it says 讜谞砖诪注 拽讜诇讜, 讜谞砖诪注 拽讜诇讜 讻讛谉 讙讚讜诇 when he came to this place. Just because if he is gone and you don't hear from him, you know It says with a prayer. Not the Kodesh HaKodashim.