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BEIT HAMIKDASH

Why Was the Shechinah Absent From the Second Temple?

Why Was the Shechinah Absent From the Second Temple?

Part of Beit Hamikdash · 18:28

Explores why the Divine Presence didn't rest as openly in the Second Temple, the status of the Karaites, and the halachos of mezuzah on different types of gates.

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Why the Shechina was absent in the Second Temple

What we learned yesterday, learned that claimed that the יידן would have gone up with עזרא to the second בית המקדש, then the שכינה would have been there. He said because they didn't go up, that's why it was not the שכינה wasn't there like the first בית המקדש. But the גמרא says here, ח we're holding. כי אתא, סימן ח, the beginning of ח. This is ט I see. That was before. ט is before. כי אתא לקמיה דרבי יוחנן, and they came to רבי יוחנן. Who was it that came who said it before? ריש לקיש. And they came to רבי יוחנן, אמר ליה, so he said, לאו היינו טעמא. This is not the reason. The reason the שכינה wasn't there in the second בית המקדש the same as the first is not what you said. דאי נמי סליקו כולהו בימי עזרא, had everyone gone up the time of עזרא, לא שריא שכינה במקדש שני, the שכינה would not have been there. דכתיב it says right away the beginning, יפת אלקים ליפת וישכון באהלי שם. Right in the beginning the אויבערשטער said he'll beautify for יפת, and יפת was good because יפת was the one that his descendants build the second בית המקדש, and nevertheless, וישכון באהלי שם, he only going to rest in the אוהל that was made by שם, which is by יידן. אף על גב דיפת אלקים ליפת, even though there's יפת that beautify for יפת, אין השכינה שכינה שריא באהלי שם. שכינה is only באהלי שם. So therefore the second בית המקדש, the אויבערשטער לכתחילה said it's not going to be the שכינה there. The same way obviously, the שכינה was there, but in different level. I know, but it was with the I know, but with the רשות of of of of יפת, of the גוים. And that's that's why the אויבערשטער לכתחילה it's not going to be. Who built the second בית המקדש? Through the פרסיים. So obviously we're saying that פרסיים are from יפת. פרסאי מנלן דמיפת אתו, so how do we know they טאקע come from יפת? Greece usually. Uh? יפת is usually identified with Greece. Yeah, we'll see. So the the

Identifying Japheth’s descendants and their nations

גמרא answers, דכתיב it says like this, בני יפת, in the פסוק it says, the children of יפת are גומר ומגוג ומדי ויון ותובל ומשך ותירס. Okay, who are they? So גומר זה גרממיא. Now, I don't know exactly these countries, maybe it's Germany, but in the English גמרא I see they have pictures and stuff like that. So that's גרממיא. מגוג זה קנדיא. I don't think it's Canada. Yeah, yeah. מדי is מקרוניא. Greek island, Greek island of Crete. Okay. מדי is Crete? מדי is Media. is מקרוניא. יון is כמשמעו, יון is Greece. תובל is בית איניקי. משך is מוסיא. And תירס, או, פליגי בה רב סימאי ורבנן, רב סימאי and the רבנן argue, ואמרי לה, some say it was רב סימון and the רבנן argued, חד אמר זו בית תרייקי, that תירס is בית תרייקי, וחד אמר, and one says, זו פרס. Turkey? That sounds like sounds like Turkey. Oh, Turkey it says? That's what the English guy says. Okay. And how one guy says it's טאקע פרס, it's Persia. Crete is where the is the כותיים live there now. In where? In is the כות, the כותיים? Where do they live? Crete, Candia. Candia? That's where there is a Where are כותיים? כותיים, you mean the the there's no כותיים now. Karaites, you mean. Karaites. There's no כותיים. The Karaites, the קראים. Oh, the קראים. Yeah, the same Their philosophy's the same. קראים are קראים are Jews. Nah. I mean, the רמב״ם says they are. The רמב״ם says they're Jews like this. If they're Jews, it's terrible, then they're ממזרים. Are you saying Crete is really Karaites? כותיים. Huh? Crete is Karaites? Karaites, it's an island. Yeah, the island is Yeah. Yeah. And the so the

Discussion on Karaites and their script

Karaite comes from them? I don't know. I don't know. There's a ספר that was early ספר that was written by one of the קראים. It's a The רמב״ם talked about the קראים, the רמב״ם held they're Jews. Other people hold they're not. They made a ספר from one of them. Yeah, yeah, that they made. Yeah. The Frankfurt Yeah, yeah, but it's it's written by by the head of the קראים, but they're they're רב. He used the old No, the Hebrew כתב that they change כתב. We used to have the old כתב. We used to have He changed it because of the כתב אשורית. I have this כתב, right? So what? One of them I have this They bring it in They bring כתב עברי, right. No. It's כתב אשורית is our כתב. The other one is It's a ספר on on on מדות. I have to see. It's brought It's brought It's brought in our in our What, as a מראה מקום to a thing, just from the קראים? I don't see if he was a Karaite or he brought ענינים of פשט from the מדות. And they bring it's I forget what the name of I don't know. You have to find out and be sure be sure, it doesn't sound right. I know. I was surprised when I read it, but No. Yeah. Why did he bring I had it in my hands. It's a blue It's a blue cover. Okay. Ah, the blue one? Oh, it's a blue cover? Yes, light blue. Then he quotes another פסוק where it says, ובני כוש סבא וחוילה וסבתה ורעמה וסבתכא. What is that? תנא רב יוסף, רב יוסף taught, תירס זו פרס. is פרס. Cuz we had before תירס One of the opinions was פרס. סבתא, רעמה, and סבתכא, תני רב יוסף. סבתא is a grandmother. Yeah. So רב יוסף says that is סקיסטן, גביסא וסקיסטן ברייתא. The סקיסטן and גביסא? No, I'm sorry. It's סביסא, גביסא, the inside one, and the סקי the outside one. And בי חדא לחדא מאה פרסי, between one and the other there is a hundred פרסה, והיקיפא אלפא פרסי, the circumference, how much to all around, is a thousand פרסה. Okay. They're just telling us the different things that are mentioned in חומש by the creation or then by after the מבול, what it is really now. Then it says by נמרוד in חומש, ותהי ראשית ממלכתו, the beginning of his מלכות was in בבל, ארך, אכד, כלנה בארץ שנער. These places. בבל, כמשמעו, בבל is בבל. ארך is אריכות. אכד is בשכר, בשיכר, I don't know. כלנה is נופר נינפי. Okay? Then when the פסוק says מן הארץ ההיא יצא אשור, from that place came out אשור, תני רב יוסף, רב יוסף learned, אשור זה סילק. Okay? סילק. ויבן את נינוה it says that he built נינוה, כמשמעו פשוט כפשוטו, he built נינוה. Then it says there was another place called רחובות עיר, זו פרס דמישן, פרס of מישן. את כלח, פרס דבורסיף. All these other places. Then it says את רסן, there was רסן, בין נינוה ובין כלח, between them, היא העיר הגדולה, that's the big city. Now, רסן is אקטיספון. היא העיר הגדולה, that is the big city, איני יודע, we don't know on which one it goes, אם נינוה עיר הגדולה or רסן עיר הגדולה. It says like this: רסן between נינוה and כלח, היא העיר הגדולה. So we don't know on which word it goes. Does it go on נינוה or does it go on רסן? כשהוא אומר when it says in יונה, נינוה היתה עיר גדולה, נינוה is a big city, הא מה אומר, so we know נינוה היא העיר הגדולה, that נינוה was the big city. Okay. Since we're דרש'נינג names of cities, so we're דרש'נינג also names of people. It

The four giants of Hebron and their cities

says that in חברון you had the four giants: אחימן, ששי, and תלמי, and their father, ילידי הענק, children of the giant. תנא we learned like this, we're gonna דרשן the names: אחימן is made is מיומן שבאחיו, אחי, ימין, the right one of the brothers, means the strongest of all the brothers was אחימן. ששי, שמשים את הארץ כשחיתות, he was so big that when he would walk, he would make indentations in the ground. Yeah? He would like make holes in the ground just by every step he took. תלמי, שמשים את הארץ תלמים תלמים, so that when he would walk, he would make indentations in the ground and make What happens when you stick into the ground, that other parts become like mountains, mounds. He would make mounds in the ground. Then the next word, דבר אחר, doesn't make sense, so we say this that's not supposed to be the גירסא. גמרא דרש it says something, not another פשט in the name, just says: אחימן בנה ענת, אחימן built a city called ענת, ששי בנה עלוש, and תלמי בנה תלבוש. Okay. Then it says they were ילידי הענק, children of the giant, that means שמעניקין את החמה בקומתן. They would they're so big that they would deem the sun with their height. That means when they stood up, it looked like the sun was like a a a necklace to them. Because they were so high, when you looked at it and the sun was there, it looked like the sun is around their their neck. It made it look like like there was like a what is it, a necklace or something around their neck. Halo. A necklace or something like this. So they lived in חברון, but they still they they made these other cities somewhere else? Yeah, they lived in חברון and these are the cities that they made, yeah. And who did they descend from again? These were the מלאכים or what from? Where did these come from?

Origins of the giants: fallen angels

Where did these guys come from? From the מלאכים that fell, right. Fallen angels, yeah. Why did they fall? They complained. They said that the people are no good. So the רבונו של עולם said, let's see what will be with you guys. You come down and you'll see how you'll behave. And they came down and they probably were even worse. Not probably, for sure they were worse. Why weren't they destroyed? Because they were so big? They were there, yeah. They were I mean, these these four. Yeah. They were big, yeah. Don't ask for this. As a matter of fact, everyday we say to השם, ואל תביאנו לידי נסיון, don't bring us to a test. Huh? Don't ask for this. So who It says the offspring of the giant, so the father was the giant. They weren't necessarily giants. They were giants. They were also giants. He was the big giant. They were the small giants. אמר רבי יהושע בן לוי, רבי יהושע בן לוי said, אמר רבי in the name of רבי, עתידה רומי שתפול ביד פרס, in the future Rome is going to fall into the hands of Persia, שנאמר it says לכן שמעו עצת השם אשר יעץ אל אדום ומחשבותיו אשר חשב על יושבי תימן, listen to the advice that השם is thinking about אדום and the thoughts השם had on the people that live in תימן, אם לא יסחבום צעירי הצאן, that the צעירי הצאן the small one the young ones of the of the sheep is going to capture them, and he holds that the young one of the sheep goes on פרס. So פרס is going to get אדום. When will this happen? משיח will come. So, they don't know, are you in? Yeah, I'm in. מתיב רבה בר עולא, רבה asked, ומאי how do you know דהאי צעירי הצאן פרס הוא? And it says they're going to fall to the hands of the young צאן. It's obviously a משל. What makes you think that the צעירי הצאן goes on פרס? On Persia. So, he says דכתיב because it says הוא איל, and it talks about פרס it's like the איל, the ram אשר ראית בעל קרנים מלכי מדי ופרס. The ram with horns, this is the פסוק says this is a משל to מדי the kings of מדי and פרס. So, we see that פרס is compared to an animal, and compares to an איל. And since before we are talking about צאן, so it's a part of the צאן, ממילא it makes sense it should be פרס. פרעק די גמרא, ואימא יוון, maybe יוון, maybe Greece. דכתיב it says והצפיר השעיר מלך יוון. So, he's השעיר which is also an animal, so also like a a bull like a goat, goat. It's יוון. So, יוון it could also be called צעירי הצאן. So, כי סליק רב חביבא בר סורמקי, when רב חביבא בר סורמקי went up to ארץ ישראל, אמרה קמיה דההוא מרבנן, he was talking with the חכמים there, he repeated this, what he said, and the קשיא he asked, that the פסוק says צעירי הצאן and he said it means פרס, פרס. So, they asked him a שאלה, maybe it means יוון? How do you know not? אמר ליה, so he said to him like this, ומאן דלא ידע פירושא דקרא מותיב תיופתא דרבי? The one that doesn't know פשט in the פסוק is going to ask a קשיא? What kind of קשיא is this, because you don't know פשט? מאי צעירי הצאן, what does צעירי הצאן mean? זוטרא דאחי. That means the youngest one of the brothers. And if you look before, we said that יפת had a whole bunch of children, the last one is תירס. And the תרגום רב יוסף תירס is a פרס. So, פרס was the youngest. So, when it says צעירי הצאן, the youngest, it means פרס, so we know that Rome is going to fall to פרס. Okay, didn't. Not not. But knows, knows. Well now Yeah, well now you think it's no surprise. Not true. Yeah. But now פרס is going to get back to Rome. It's Christians and Arabs and Muslims. It's עשו and ישמעאל. We'll we could tie it in the other guys. אמר רבה בר בר חנה אמר רבי יוחנן משום רבי יהודה ברבי אלעאי, עתידה רומי שתפול ביד פרס, that in the future Rome is going to fall in the hands of פרס, קל וחומר ממקדש ראשון, a קל וחומר from the first בית המקדש. ומה מקדש ראשון, מה that the first בית המקדש שבנאוהו בני שם, בני שם the יידן built it, והחריבוהו כשדים, and the כשדים destroyed it, נפלו כשדים ביד פרסיים, the כשדים fell to the hands of the פרסיים because the כשדים destroyed it, so the פרסיים overtook him, מקדש שני שבנאוהו פרסיים, the second one that the פרסיים built, והחריבוהו רומיים, and the Romans built, destroyed it, אינו דין שיפלו רומיים ביד פרסיים, so it makes sense that the Romans should fall under the פרסיים. The פרסיים built the בית המקדש, Romans destroyed it, so then the Romans should fall into the hands of the פרסיים. Okay? That's what he says. אמר רב, רב also said, עתידה פרס שתפול ביד רומי. He said the opposite, פרס is going to fall into the hands of Rome. אמרו ליה רב כהנא ורב אסי לרב, so רב כהנא and רב אסי said to רב, בנויי ביד סתורי? The one that built it should fall into the one that destroyed it? ממילא, the other way you say the ones that destroyed it fell in the hands of the one that built it, but the one that build it should fall in the hands of the one that destroyed it? אמר להו, he said, אין, yes, גזירת מלך. Yeah, we have no answer to this, the אייבערשטער wants it like that. איכא דאמרי, some say no, he answered him, אמר להו he said, אינהו נמי קא סתר בי כנישתא. You think that the פרסיים only built the בית המקדש? They destroyed many shuls. So, they're also destroyers, and a shul is a miniature בית המקדש. ותניא נמי הכי, it says in a ברייתא, עתידה פרס שתפול ביד רומי, that פרס is going to fall in hands of Rome. חדא one is דקסתר בי כנישתא, like we said before, because they destroyed shuls and ממילא they deserve to fall in the hands of Rome, ועוד גזירת מלך, and it's a גזירה of the אייבערשטער שיפלו בונים ביד סותרים, that the ones that build the בית המקדש should fall into the hands of the destroyers. דאמר רב יהודה אמר רב, וואס ברענגט פון רב, אין בן דוד בא, משיח will not come, עד שתפשוט מלכות רומי תשעה חדשים בכל העולם כולו. For nine months the מלכות of רומי is going to spread out throughout the whole world. Where do we get nine months? דתניא שנאמר, because it says, לכן יתנם עד עת יולדה ילדה, then they'll give them till it's as long as the time as it takes to give birth, which is nine months. ויתר אחיו ישובון על בני ישראל, and the other ones will come to the to the, against the יידן. But we see that how long will it take that they will be, they will have it, it'll take the time it takes to give birth, which is nine months. Who's

Who is the modern ‘Rome’?

Rome? We're talking about Rome. Could be United States, because So, before the משיח comes. United States isn't a עשו? Yeah, but when we say that the Christians, they come from from Italy, from Rome, they're all over. So, yeah. So, then the main I don't know, we don't know exactly what. More than nine months. It doesn't mean nine months they're going to rule the whole world. It's nine months the race for the whole world. Why do you think it's wait, they have a guy who said here that's not from the from ישמעאל anyway, not from עשו. Who? Obama? Yeah. He's definitely from ישמעאל. Huh? No, it's better than משיח, because... I mean, if you 20% of Fed in England is the Muslims. The main thing that they're trying to make rules, One religion is filling this... Ah, the, it's ממש the גמרא. Yeah, we don't know exactly what, how, what. No, no, no. Who's who is Rome? I don't think it does it. But, it's definitely not Rome, because Rome now is nothing. They say Rome, the Rome took the culture. They're they're the same. How do you Well, we're now in גלות אדום. What גלות אדום? What's אדום? What גלות אדום? Where are we in גלות now? אדום, which... Right now, there are more יידן that are in America, right? That's the reason. Now there are more in ארץ ישראל. Talking about outside of ארץ ישראל, where is the next place? What, there is more Jews in ארץ ישראל than in America? Yeah, now there are. Now? Really? Yes.

Mezuzah obligations for different gates

תנו רבנן, וכן הוא אומר, תנו רבנן, but it says by a מזוזה you have to put it up, but in מזוזה is ביתך ובשעריך. ובשעריך, אחד שערי בתים, whether it's the gates of a house, אחד שערי חצרות, the gates of a yard, ואחד שערי מדינות, the gates of a country, ואחד שערי עיירות, or the gates of a city, יש בהם חובת מצוה למקום, you have a חיוב to do the מצוה to the אייבערשטער of מזוזה. שנאמר, it says, וכתבתם על מזוזות ביתך ובשעריך, write them on the doorposts of your house and of your gates. שער מדינה, what does it mean? Different places have a they have a gate, they have a wall and a gate, yeah, like מדינה. מדינה doesn't mean like a whole country like the United States. It's like like it's similar like a county. Pretty much. Where is that a gate? Well, we don't have, we don't have, now they don't have walls, but in those days they did it.

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