How Many Fires Burned on the Temple's Altar?
How Many Fires Burned on the Temple's Altar?
Part of Beit Hamikdash · 13:34
Covers Chanukah greetings, the large fire (ma'arachah) on the outer altar, cleaning the inner altar, and halachic questions about see-through priestly garments.
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Huh? When you sing it, we used to sing it and this guy didn't know what to say. Oh, in 砖讜诇 here, oh yes, so he... Okay, so now 讞谞讜讻讛. I wish you would have let me know, you still feel you could... Yeah, we this guy didn't know it here, so we sang it and this guy said, \"I'll give you this.\" So we sang it. No, no, no, not officially. Okay. Yesterday it was 驻专讬讬诇注讱 here. I heard. We always wish the other a 驻专讬讬诇讬讻注 讞谞讜讻讛. If you're not 驻专讬讬诇注讱, it's not 驻专讬讬诇注讱. Who was 驻专讬讬诇注讱? Were you here? Who is 驻专讬讬诇注讱? Everybody was 驻专讬讬诇注讱. Were you here? You weren't 驻专讬讬诇注讱? Okay. You look you look... We're holding here 住讬诪谉 讻\"讜. 讗讘讬讬 讛讜讛 诪住讚专 住讚专 讛诪注专讻讛 诪砖诪讬讛 讚讙诪专讗 讜讗诇讬讘讗 讚讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇. Who's 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇, why did he listen to 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇? Because 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇 was the one who knew it, it came from 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇. Huh? Because in the in one in one 驻专讟 of what it says here, there's a 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇 and the 讞讻诪讬诐. And because this goes according to 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇. In this 住讚专, in one 驻专讟 there's a 诪讞诇讜拽转, and this 住讚专 goes according to 讗讘讗 砖讗讜诇's opinion. What is the 住讚专? So we're going to tell us the 住讚专 of the way when they brought the 拽专讘谞讜转 to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, what was the order. So he is 诪住讚专 the 住讚专 讛诪注专讻讛. The 诪注专讻讛 is when they brought the 拽专讘谞讜转, all these things. This is what we read every day? Every day we say this! Look in the 住讬讚讜专 at the bottom it says: 讬讜诪讗 讚祝 诇\"讙. Look in the 住讬讚讜专 at the 诪专讗讛 诪拽讜诐 it says 讬讜诪讗 讚祝 诇\"讙. Yeah. 诪注专讻讛 讙讚讜诇讛 拽讜讚诪转 诇诪注专讻讛 砖谞讬讬讛 砖诇 拽讟讜专转. You do 讚祝 讛讬讜诪讬 over there? The The 诪注专讻讛 Huh? Speaking of 讚祝 讛讬讜诪讬? No, no, no, that's 讗讘讬讬 讛讜讛 诪住讚专. Okay. 诪注专讻讛 讙讚讜诇讛, this was a 诪注专讻讛 is the place where they had the fire. So they had a fire, and this was called the 诪注专讻讛 讙讚讜诇讛, a big one, because that's where they were 诪拽讟讬专 the 拽讟讜专转. So that was the first thing. That came before the second 诪注专讻讛. Fire is 拽讟讜专转? 拽讟讜专转. 砖诇讗 讬拽讟讬专 讻诇 讛拽讟讜专转. 讻诇 讛拽讟讜专转. No, all the 讛拽讟专转, no, no. The second one is 拽讟讜专转. All the 拽专讘谞讜转, which is called 讛拽讟专转. Because when you 诪拽讟讬专 a 拽专讘谉, even though the word 拽讟讜专转, the word 拽讟讜专转... Are you just going through the order, or what? No, no, this is the 住讚专. So
first they made the fire, the first fire for all the for all the 拽专讘谞讜转. But this came before the 诪注专讻讛 砖谞讬讬讛 砖诇 拽讟讜专转, then there is a second 诪注专讻讛 of 拽讟讜专转, and that was in the corner. The The 诪讝讘讞 was very big, so they had a big fire in the middle, then they had on the side small fire like, small little fire they made. That was like 驻住讜拽讬诐 we learn out, because it says the word took out on the 诪讝讘讞 three times, so there were three a few 诪注专讻讜转, whatever. What's a 诪注专讻讛? 诪注专讻讛 is when they set up the wood. Setting up? Setting up with the and they put the fire on it. So they set this up, so they set up the first 诪注专讻讛, then you have the second 诪注专讻讛. The second 诪注专讻讛 was also on this 诪讝讘讞. Why is it called 诪注专讻讛 砖诇 拽讟讜专转? Because when they brought the 拽讟讜专转, they have to take the fire from here. So they took it from this second 诪注专讻讛, that's what they called this the 诪注专讻讛 砖谞讬讬讛, second of 拽讟讜专转. 诪注专讻讛 砖谞讬讬讛 砖诇 拽讟讜专转 拽讜讚诪转 诇住讬讚讜专 砖谞讬 讙讝讬专讬 注爪讬诐. The second 诪注专讻讛 of 拽讟讜专转 came before they were 诪住讚专 two wood, two pieces of wood. There was a special 讛诇讻讛 that you had to put two, what's the English for this? Blocks. Blocks, within of wood. Logs. Logs, oh, not blocks. Logs. Okay, two two pieces of wood. Onto the 诪讝讘讞. Onto the 诪讝讘讞. 住讬讚讜专 砖谞讬 讙讝讬专讬 注爪讬诐 拽讜讚诐 诇讚讬砖讜谉 诪讝讘讞 讛驻谞讬诪讬. This came before, in other words the way he says it in a funny 住讚专, but next came that they cleaned the inside 诪讝讘讞. There's a big 诪讝讘讞 on the outside, then there's a small 诪讝讘讞 for the 拽讟讜专转 inside, so they used to clean it every day. This came after it. 讚讬砖讜谉 诪讝讘讞 讛驻谞讬诪讬 拽讜讚诐 诇讛讟讘转 讞诪砖 谞专讜转.
Cleaning the 诪讝讘讞 讛驻谞讬诪讬, the inside 诪讝讘讞, came before the preparation of five of the candles. The 诪谞讜专讛 had seven candles. Five were cleaned and prepared separately and two separately. These are all learned out from 驻住讜拽讬诐. So now came the five. 讛讟讘转 讞诪砖 谞专讜转 拽讜讚诪转 诇讚诐 讛转诪讬讚. Making these five candles, preparing them, came before the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 it says 讚诐, the means the 砖讞讬讟讛 and 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. They cleaned it, from the night before, they took out the oil into the wood, yeah. They cleaned five first. They didn't light it yet. Take out the ashes and they put... Take out the ashes from from the 诪谞讜专讛. 诪谞讜专讛. Yeah. What about the wicks and all these? All this they prepared, they made it ready. Then came the the 讚诐 讛转诪讬讚, 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. 讜讚诐 讛转诪讬讚 拽讜讚诐 诇讛讟讘转 砖转讬 谞专讜转. After the 讚诐 讛转诪讬讚, then came the other two candles they prepared. 讜讛讟讘转 砖转讬 谞专讜转 拽讜讚诪转 诇拽讟讜专转. And preparing the two 谞专讜转 came before the 拽讟讜专转. 讜拽讟讜专转 拽讜讚诪转 诇讗讘专讬诐. 拽讟讜专转 came before they brought the 讗讘专讬诐, which are the the the limbs, the parts of the animal of the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. 讜讗讘专讬诐 拽讜讚诪讬诐 诇诪谞讞讛. The 讗讘专讬诐, these parts of the 拽专讘谉, came before... before the 诪谞讞讛, because a 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚, which was an 注讜诇讛, had a 诪谞讞讛 with it. Had flour. 讜诪谞讞讛 拽讚诪讛 诇讞讘讬转讬谉. The 诪谞讞讛 came before the 讞讘讬转讬谉, which was a 拽专讘谉 讞讘讬转讬谉. Why are they listed like that? Instead of just saying Yeah, I'm saying it's strange. Yeah, it says they came before, okay. So that's part of the 讛诇讻讛. The reason why they came here is because it had to be before that, okay. Yeah, wouldn't you know that if you started with one and went to No, no. You wouldn't know. No, you know the order, but would but the 砖讗诇讛 why is it? Is it because this comes first, or is it because it has to come before the second? So, they are trying No, the writer is saying here the reason why this comes because it has to come before the next, and the next one has to be there because it has to be before the next. Huh? For the 讞讘讬... 讞讘讬转讬谉 is for the 讻讛谉 the 讻讛谉 讙讚讜诇 brought a 拽专讘谉 讞讘讬转讬谉. Or a new 讻讛谉. What does 讞讘讬转讬谉 mean? 诪讞讘转, 诇砖讜谉 讞讘讬讜转. Like a like a pan, frying pan. 讞讘讬转讬谉 拽讚诪讜 诇谞住讻讬诐. 讞讘讬转讬谉 came before the 谞住讻讬诐. 谞住讻讬诐 were where they poured the wine on the 拽专讘谉. So that on the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. That's came after the 讞讘讬转讬谉. 谞住讻讬诐 拽讚诪讜 诇诪讜住驻讬谉. If it there was a 诪讜住祝, like it was 专讗砖 讞讜讚砖, or 砖讘转, there was 拽专讘谉 诪讜住祝, so this came before the 诪讜住祝. 诪讜住驻讬谉 拽讚诪讜 诇讘讝讬讻讬谉. The 诪讜住驻讬谉 came before the 讘讝讬讻讬谉. 讘讝讬讻讬谉 are the two, they call them the spoons, on the table, where the the 诇讞诐 讛驻谞讬诐, you had two spoons of 诇讘讜谞讛. So, on 砖讘转, they would be 诪拽专讬讘 them. So, they were 诪拽专讬讘 on 砖讘转 after the 诪讜住祝. 讘讝讬讻讬谉 拽讚诪讜 诇转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. The 讘讝讬讻讬谉 came before the second 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. Someplace in between, they brought all the other 拽专讘谞讜转, which are not 讞讜讘讛. This is the 住讚专 of the day that had to be brought. Here it says 拽讚诪讛, and then it says 诇... That means the same thing? No, 拽讚诪讛 before, no. 拽讚诪讜 to... Why wouldn't I understand the 诇-? Why the Oh, before. Before to, yeah. And it came before the 拽专讘谉 the second 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. That was the last thing, 砖谞讗诪专, it
says: 讜注专讱 注诇讬讛 讛注讜诇讛, it says you should bring the 拽专讘谉 注讜诇讛 on it, 讜讛拽讟讬专 注诇讬讛 讞诇讘讬 讛砖诇诪讬诐, all the 拽专讘谞讜转 砖诇诪讬诐 should be on it. What does it mean on it? 注诇讬讛 讛砖诇诐 讻诇 讛拽专讘谞讜转 讻讜诇诐. See, people really don't understand the 驻砖讟. And it says that you have to bring it all before the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚, so how do you 讟讬讬讟砖, because the 讙诪专讗 讚专砖'谞住: 注诇讬讛 讛砖诇诐, on it you should finish all the 拽专讘谞讜转. What's the on it? On which 转诪讬讚? Oh, everyone learns like, everyone thinks the 驻砖讟 like that. That's wrong 驻砖讟. It's 诪砖诪注, if, he thinks the word is on it, you have to finish all the 拽专讘谞讜转. On it means before it, before the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. The 驻砖讟 is 驻讗专拽注专讟, on it goes on the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专, that everything has to be after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专, not after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. You have to finish everything 讘讛诪砖讱 to the to 注诇讬讛, to it, to the first 拽专讘谉. 诪诪讬诇讗, it means that you can't bring anything after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐, because everything has to come after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专. And that's what we want, 注诇讬讛 讛砖诇诐, that's what 专砖状讬 learns. 注诇讬讛, 注诇 讛注讜诇讛, the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专 讛讗诪讜专讛 讘专讗砖 讛注谞讬谉, 砖讻转讜讘, 砖谞讗诪专: 讜注专讱 注诇讬讛 讛注讜诇讛, yeah, that's 讛砖诇诐 讻诇 讛拽专讘谞讜转, 讜诇讗 注诇 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. You have to finish it all after that. 诇讬诪讚, 专砖状讬, that teaches you 注诇 讛转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐 砖讛讜讗 讗讞专讜谉 诇讻诇 讛拽专讘谞讜转. So, that teaches that it's the last one. I want to know how they 讟讬讬讟砖 this in English. What do they say, Joseph? On it? Not not over there, no. This is fine. I'm saying the English, the translation of the 住讬讚讜专. Well, we can play the English. What does it What does they say here? I'm sure it's does right, you mean. Yeah, what's it say in the English? 注诇讬讛, on it? I'm sure it's altogether right. When they printed it, they definitely, when they wrote it, they looked up. They didn't just write something something from their hat. Here, 注诇讬讛 讛砖诇诐 讻诇 讛拽专讘谞讜转 讻讜诇诐: The 讻讛谉 shall arrange the burnt offering on the altar and burn it, the fats of comes with this, all the offerings were completed. Aha. With this. So, it shows it as the last. Completed as last. Yeah, with this, they're all completed. No, we're saying it goes on the 拽专讘谉 砖讞专. Yeah, that we cannot do anything after the last But the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专 is the morning! On it, all the 拽专讘谞讜转 have to come after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专, not after the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. So No, with this, all with this meaning with what? With what is this? Completely, including the the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专. Then the whole thing is complete. The whole day is complete. That's completing. That's 诪砖诪注. Which if If that's what they meant, it's wrong, it's wrong. Why? You just said it. What does it say again? It says: Then comes, yeah: The 讻讛谉 shall arrange, see, and the 讻讛谉 shall arrange the burnt offering on the altar and burn on it the fat of the peace-offerings, of 砖诇诪讬诐. With this, all the offerings were completed. In the morning? With this, and we're talking about 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专, the way it says this. All the, unless they mean What do you mean with this is With which one is it finished? The 转诪讬讚 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐 is the last one. But 专砖状讬 says that's not the 驻砖讟. 专砖状讬 says the 驻砖讟 is that since the 驻住讜拽 talks about the 拽专讘谉 砖诇 砖讞专, on the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专 you have to finish everything. Which means, 专砖状讬 teaches you, that you can't bring anything after the 拽专讘谉 砖诇 讘讬谉 讛注专讘讬诐. That's what we know now. So, this, if this is what they meant It's wrong. But what does it say by you? Says upon it, that is the 转诪讬讚 砖诇 砖讞专, the morning 转诪讬讚. Oh, upon it, the morning 转诪讬讚 being offered. No, well that's right. Okay, fine. So the 讙诪专讗 weiter, 转谞讬. But how do you, they interpreted that as, it's wrong, 讛砖诇诪讬诐, the completions, meaning that they are, that all the services of the day should be completed after the morning After the morning? Before the We are talking about it, look in the 专砖\"讬. How does the English No, the English, here it also says that. That scroll is good. But here, it's not clear. It says 注诇, maybe, okay, I don't know. Because the 讟讬讬讟砖 you can't say, the 讟讬讬讟砖 is it, but the 驻砖讟 of what it means is. Maybe that's what they mean too. No, but the way, the way it's written doesn't seem right, but could be they meant try to. 转谞讬 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讘专 讬讛讜讚讛 讗诪专, 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讘专 讬讛讜讚讛 learned. Listen to my yell. 讜讗诪专讬 诇讛, some say 专讘 砖诪讜讗诇 讘专 讬讛讜讚讛 said: 讗讞专 砖讻诇转讛 注讘讜讚转 爪讬讘讜专, on 讬讜诐 讻讬驻讜专, after the 讻讛谉 讙讚讜诇 finished that 注讘讜讚讛 that belongs for the community, 讻讛谉 砖注砖转讛 诇讜 讗诪讜 讻转讜谞转, if a 讻讛谉, what if the 讻讛谉 讙讚讜诇, his mother made for him a special clothes, 诇讜讘砖讛, he could put it on, 讜注讜讘讚 讘讛 注讘讜讚转 讬讞讬讚. Now
注讘讜讚讛, personal 注讘讜讚讛 he can do. What does that mean? When he came into the 拽讜讚砖 讛拽讚砖讬诐 the second time to take out the 拽讟讜专转, that's not 注讘讜讚转 爪讬讘讜专. It's not an 注讘讜讚讛, he 驻砖讜讟 had to take it out. That the 讙诪专讗 calls 注讘讜讚转 讬讞讬讚. So then, he could put on something that his mother made for him special. 讜讘诇讘讚 砖讬诪住专谞讛 诇爪讬讘讜专, as long as she was given over, donated it that it should become part of the 爪讬讘讜专. The 讙诪专讗, 驻砖讬讟讗. Obviously, if it's given to the 爪讬讘讜专, what's the difference, why would you think not? What's the problem? It's supposed to belong to the 爪讬讘讜专. If the mother made it for him specially, but she gave it away as a donation, sure it's good. The 讙诪专讗 said, 诪讛讜 讚转讬诪讗, I would think, 谞讬讞讜砖 砖诪讗 诇讗 诪住专讛 讬驻讛 讬驻讛. I would be afraid maybe she really when she gave it, she didn't really want to give it, because she meant it for her For her son? No, it's for her son. She really meant it to be for her son. 诪诪讬诇讗 拽讗 诪砖诪注 诇谉 that we don't worry about it. 讗诪专讜 注诇讬讜 注诇 专讘讬 讬砖诪注讗诇 讘谉 驻讗讘讬, they said of 讬砖诪注讗诇 讘谉 驻讗讘讬, 砖注砖转讛 诇讜 讗诪讜 讻转讜谞转 砖诇 诪讗讛 诪谞讛, she made a shirt for him, 诪讗讛, a hundred 诪谞讛. A 诪谞讛 is a hundred. Ten thousand dollars worth or whatever. 讜诇讜讘砖讛, and he wore it, 讜注讜讘讚 讘讛 注讘讜讚转 讬讞讬讚, and he did the 注讘讜讚转 讬讞讬讚, 讜诪讜住专讛 诇爪讬讘讜专, and he became part of the 爪讬讘讜专. 讗诪专讜 注诇讬讜 注诇 讗诇注讝专 讘谉 讞专住讜诐, and they say, 砖注砖转讛 诇讜 讗诪讜 讻转讜谞转 砖诇 砖转讬 专讬讘讜讗. 砖转讬 专讬讘讜讗 is twenty thousand. Twenty thousand coins worth. 讜诇讗 讛谞讬讞讜讛讜 讗讞讬讜 讛讻讛谞讬诐 诇诇讜讘砖讛, they wouldn't let him put it on, 诪驻谞讬 砖谞专讗讛 讻注专讜诐, because it was so fine, so fine, so it was see-through! He looked naked. 驻专注讙讟 讚讬 讙诪专讗, how could it be see-through? 讜讛讗诪专 诪专 讞讜讟谉 讻驻讜诇 砖砖讛, doesn't it say that when you make it, you have to be each thread was made of six and there was gold in it, I mean 讗诪专 讗讘讬讬 讻讬 讞诪专讗 诪讝讬讙讗. Oh, it it Flax. Yeah, but they were still still 诪讜爪讘, it says, the 驻砖转谉 诪讜爪讘, 专砖\"讬 says. 讻讛 讛讬讛 驻砖转谉 诪讜爪讘.
What it means to say is, that sometimes when you put water in a 讻诇讬, and the 讻诇讬 is very thick, you have a lot of it, and you look, you still could see through. So the same thing, it was 讟讗拽注 thick 住讞讜专讛, but you could see through. Oh, yeah.