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AVODAH ZORAH: CHAPTER 2

Avodah Zarah 37

Can a Divorce Document Expire?

Part of Avodah Zorah: chapter 2 · 58:15

Covers a get written with a time-limited condition, Rabbi Yossi's testimony permitting three disputed practices, and the rules distinguishing kosher from non-kosher locusts.

Audio Transcript
Intro: Mishnah on Oil of Gentiles

Jewish audio on Chabad.org. Today's 砖讬注讜专 will be 诪住讻转讗 注讘讜讚讛 讝专讛 讚祝 诇"讝. We will start six lines from the top of the 注诪讜讚. The 讙诪专讗 here is in the middle of the 住讜讙讬讗 concerning the 讗讬住讜专 of 砖诪谉. In the 诪砖谞讛 it said that 砖诪谉 of 讙讜讬诐 is 讗住讜专. Just like the 讞讻诪讬诐 said that you're not allowed to drink wine of 讙讜讬诐 and eat bread of 讙讜讬诐, you're also not allowed to use, drink, or eat oil of 讙讜讬诐. But nevertheless, it says in the 诪砖谞讛 according to one 讙讬专住讗, and in the 讙诪专讗 it's explained, that 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 and his 讘讬转 讚讬谉 were 诪转讬专 砖诪谉. They allowed 砖诪谉. And the 讙诪专讗 explains the different reasons why they allowed 砖诪谉. The 讙诪专讗 here says, 讜诪住转诪讬讱 讜讗讝讬诇 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 was going and leaning, 讗讻转驻讗 讚专讘讬 砖诪诇讗讬 砖诪注讬讛, on the shoulders of his servant, 专讘讬 砖诪诇讗讬. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, and he said to him, 砖诪诇讗讬, 诇讗 讛讬讬转 讗诪砖 讘讘讬转 讛诪讚专砖, you weren't yesterday in the 讘讬转 讛诪讚专砖, 讻砖讛转专谞讜 讗转 讛砖诪谉, when we allowed, we permitted the oil. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so he said to him, 讘讬诪讬谞讜 转转讬专 讗祝 讗转 讛驻转. In our days, you should also allow to eat bread of 讙讜讬诐. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so he said to him, 讗诐 讻谉, if we would do that, 拽专讜 诇谉 讘讬转 讚讬谞讗 砖专讬讗, they would call us the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that allow.

Testimony of Rabbi Yossi on Permitted Locusts and Temple Liquids

讚转谞谉, as we learned in a 诪砖谞讛, 讛注讬讚 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛, that 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专, a person from 爪专讬讚讛 testified, 注诇 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗 讚讻谉, that a certain locust, which is called 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗, that it's allowed, that this is 诪讜转专, because we know that there are certain 讞讙讘讬诐, certain grasshoppers, locusts, which is 诪讜转专 and certain which is 讗住讜专. So he testified that 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗 is 诪讜转专. And also, 讜注诇 诪砖拽讗 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 讚讻谉, that the liquid from the place where they 砖讞讟 拽专讘谞讜转 in the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, and there you would have the water and the blood get mixed together, so he testified that that liquid is 讟讛讜专. Normally, if liquid gets contact with 讟讜诪讗讛 it becomes 讟诪讗, but the 诪砖拽讬谉 from 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗, from the slaughterhouse of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, he testified doesn't become 讟诪讗. And in the 讙诪专讗 later we have a 诪讞诇讜拽转 what he means. 专讘 holds that it doesn't become 讟诪讗 at all, and 砖诪讜讗诇 holds that it becomes 讟诪讗, but it can't become 讟诪讗 enough to make other things 讟诪讗. And the 讙诪专讗 will explain that the reason for the 诪讞诇讜拽转 is that 专讘 holds that 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 讘讻诇诇 liquid doesn't become 讟诪讗, the whole 讚讬谉 of 讟讜诪讗讛 of liquid is 诪讚专讘谞谉, and the 专讘谞谉 when they made their 讗讬住讜专, it was only concerning other liquids, not the liquids of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. And 砖诪讜讗诇 holds that liquid becomes 讟诪讗 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, and therefore even the liquid of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 is also 讟诪讗. The 专讘谞谉 added that liquid becomes 讟诪讗 even to make other things 讟诪讗, and since that is 诪讚专讘谞谉, so that the 专讘谞谉 limited that only other liquids, not the liquids of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. And the third thing he said, 讜讚讬拽专讘 讘诪讬转讗 诪住讗讘, if you get close to a dead body, if you touch a dead body you become 讟诪讗. So these are the three things he said.

Rabbi Yossi Called 'Saraya' for Permitting Three Things

讜拽专讜 诇讬讛, and they called him 讬讜住讬 砖专讬讗, the 讬讜住讬 that permits, because he permitted these three things. Concerning the third thing, the 讙诪专讗 later on will ask, first of all, it's a 讚讬谉 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 that if you touch a dead body you become 讟诪讗, and second of all, in this case he didn't permit anything, on the contrary, he made something 讗住讜专, he said that if you touch a dead body you become 讟诪讗. So concerning that they shouldn't have called him 讬讜住讬 who permits, but on the contrary, 讬讜住讬 who makes 讗住讜专. But the 讙诪专讗 will explain that. So that's what he said to him, just like we see over there that 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛, since he permitted three things, they called him 讬讜住讬 砖专讬讗, so he said on himself also that if I'm going to permit bread of 讙讜讬诐, they're going to call me also 讘讬转 讚讬谞讗 砖专讬讗, that I'm from a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that permits. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so 专讘讬 砖诪诇讗讬 said to him, what kind of comparison is it? 讛转诐 砖专讗 转诇转. There, in the case of 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专, he allowed three things. That's why they called him 讬讜住讬 砖专讬讗. 讜诪专, but you, 砖专讗 讞讚讗, you only allowed one thing so far, which is the oil. 讜讗讬 砖专讬 诪专 讞讚讗 讗讞专讬转讗, if you're going to allow another thing, which is the bread, 讗讻转讬 转专转讬谉 讛讜讗 讚讛讜讬谉, it's still only two. You're afraid they're going to call you the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that permits as they did to 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛, but there's no comparison, because he permitted three things, and you, if you permit bread, you'll still only be permitting two things. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so he said to him, 讗谞讗 砖专讗讬 讗讞专讬转讬, I already permitted something else. And therefore, if I'm going to permit bread, it'll be a third thing, and then they will call me the 讘讬转 讚讬谞讗 砖专讬讗. 诪讗讬 讛讬讗? What is the other thing that he already permitted? 讚转谞谉,

Divorce Document (Get) with 12-Month Condition Discussion

because we learn in a 诪砖谞讛, if a husband give the get to his wife and he says to her 讝讛 讙讬讟讱, this should be your get, 讗诐 诇讗 讘讗转讬 诪讻讗谉 注讚 砖谞讬诐 注砖专 讞讜讚砖, if I don't come from today 12 months, for instance, if he left on a trip and he was afraid that if he's going to die on the way, his wife will become an 讗诇诪谞讛, a widow, and the 讚讬谉 by an 讗诇诪谞讛 is that she 讝拽讜拽讛 诇讬讘诐. If he didn't have any children and he died, then his brother must marry her or give her 讞诇讬爪讛, and he wanted to avoid the problem of her having to get 讞诇讬爪讛, so he said, here is a get, if I don't come back by 12 months, the get should be a get, 讜诪转 讘转讜讱 砖谞讬诐 注砖专 讞讜讚砖, and he died within the 12 months, 讗讬谞讜 讙讟, it's not a get, and the reason for that is, since he said to her that this get should be a get if I don't come back after 12 months, in other words, when did he want the get to be valid? After 12 months, and before that the get is no get. Now since he died within the 12 months, and the get is only valid after 12 months, it comes out that the get is only valid after he died already, and we have a 讻诇诇, 讗讬谉 讙讟 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛, you can't give a get after he dies. Only a person who is alive could divorce his wife. If he died already before the get was valid, then this get is not a get. So here too, since he died before the 12 months were up and he said that the get should be a get only after 12 months, so this get is no get, so she's not considered a 讙专讜砖讛, a divorcee, and therefore she would be 驻讟讜专 from 讞诇讬爪讛, but she is considered an 讗诇诪谞讛, a widow, and she would have to get 讞诇讬爪讛 from her husband's brother. 讜转谞讬 注诇讛, and we learned on this 诪砖谞讛, 讜专讘讜转讬谞讜 讛转讬专讜讛 诇讛讬谞砖讗, that our rabbis did allow her to get married, 讜讗诪专讬谞谉, and we said, 诪讗谉 专讘讜转讬谞讜? Who are these people who are called our rabbis who allowed it?

Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi's Court Ruling on the Get Validity

讗诪专 专讘 讬讛讜讚讛 讗诪专 砖诪讜讗诇, so 专讘 讬讛讜讚讛 said in the name of 砖诪讜讗诇, 讘讬转 讚讬谞讗 讚砖专讜 诪砖讞讗, it's the same 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that allowed the oil, that was the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that allowed this woman to get married. In other words, that this 讘讬转 讚讬谉 held that the get is valid, even though he died before the 12 months. What is the reason? 住讘专 诇讛 讻专讘讬 讬讜住讬, this 讘讬转 讚讬谉 holds like 专讘讬 讬讜住讬, 讚讗诪专, that he said, 讝诪谞讜 砖诇 砖讟专 诪讜讻讬讞 注诇讬讜, that the time, the date of the 砖讟专, of the document, proves it proves that when he said that this should be a get after 12 months, he didn't mean that after 12 months the get should be valid. What he meant was, that the get should be valid now, on condition that I don't come back after 12 months. Because the whole reason why did the 讞讻诪讬诐 say the get is not a get? Because the get is not valid till after 12 months, and by then he was already not alive. But had he said 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 that the get should be a get now, if I don't come back after 12 months, so then even if he would have died in the middle, the 讞讻诪讬诐 would have agreed that this get would be a get. Why? Because since he didn't come back, the condition was fulfilled, and he said the get should be a get now if I don't come back, so then 诇诪驻专注, retroactively the get is a get from the date he gave it when he was still alive. The only problem here is, since he did not say 诪注讻砖讬讜, when he gave the get, he said, this is your get if I don't come back from today 12 months, and he didn't say the get should be a get from now, so we assumed that the get is not a get till after the 12 months, and since he already died, 讗讬谉 讙讟 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛. But the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that allowed it, they held that since he wrote a date in the get, so he meant to say that the get should be a get from today. The date proves that even though he didn't write 诪注讻砖讬讜, he didn't say the get should be a get from today, from now, but that's what he meant. And this is the opinion of 专讘讬 讬讜住讬. 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 said this 讚讬谉 concerning another case. The 讙诪专讗 says in 讘讘讗 讘转专讗 in 驻专拽 讬砖 谞讜讞诇讬谉, if someone has a few children and he wants to give away all his possessions to one of his children, and he writes a document that all his possessions should go to this son after he dies, so in order for that to be valid, he would have to write in the 砖讟专: 诪讛讬讜诐 讜诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛, that's from today and after I die. If he would just write in a 砖讟专 that I give away all my possessions to this son after I die, then this is not valid. And the reason for that is, since after he dies, all the other children also inherit, so this son cannot be the only one to take. Because since he wrote in the 砖讟专 that this should happen after he dies, after he dies, it's too late already. But if he writes in a 砖讟专 that I give it away to my son 诪讛讬讜诐 讜诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛, from today and after I die, so we understand that really he wants to give it to him today. And today he is still alive, so he has a right to give it to whoever he wants. So, therefore, his son is 拽讜谞讛. I, why did he write 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛 also, after he dies? Because Till he dies, he still wants to be the one that will take the profit, eat the fruit from his property. And therefore he wrote, from today and after I die. Meaning that from today, the property itself belongs to this son. And after he dies, then even the 驻讬专讜转, even the fruit, the profit will go to his son. But if he doesn't write 诪讛讬讜诐 讜诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛, he just writes that all this belongs to this son after I die, so then the 讚讬谉 is that his son would not take it all, but all the children would inherit equally. 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 says that if he wrote the date in this document, so then even if he didn't write the words 诪讛讬讜诐, also it goes to this son. And the reason he gives is because 讝诪谞讜 砖诇 砖讟专 诪讜讻讬讞 注诇讬讜. If he would mean that that son should take all his possessions only after he dies, then why did he write a date? Why is it important to know when that 砖讟专 was written? Since he wrote a date, that proves that he meant that it should start from today. That today he should get the 讙讜祝, the property itself, and after he dies, that's when he will get the 驻讬专讜转. Because if he only meant to give it to him after he dies, why did he mention the date in the 砖讟专? So just like 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 says concerning the 砖讟专, concerning that 讚讬谉, the same applies also to the 讙讟. Since he wrote a date in the 讙讟, and he gave it to her, and he said to her, this should be your 讙讟 if I don't come back after 12 months, so the reason he wrote the date was to show that if he doesn't come back, the 讙讟 should be valid from today. And the reason he wrote that if he doesn't come back after 12 months, that is only a condition. What he meant was that the 讙讟 should be valid today, on condition if I don't come back by 12 months. So if he didn't come back after 12 months, because he died in the middle, so then the condition was fulfilled, and since we assume that what he meant was the 讙讟 should be 讞诇, should be valid from that day on, and then he was still alive, so therefore she is divorced with that 讙讟. That is the opinion of 专讘讬 讬讜住讬, and that was also the opinion of 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 who was the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that was 诪转讬专 the oil, and was also 诪转讬专 this. 讗诪专 专讘 讗讘讗 讘专讬讛 讚专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗讘讗, and 专讘 讗讘讗, the son of 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗讘讗 said, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 讛讜专讛, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 驻住拽谞'讟 this 讚讬谉, that this woman is allowed to marry without 讞诇讬爪讛, because we consider it as if he meant that the 讙讟 should be valid from today. 讜诇讗 讛讜讚讜 诇讜 讻诇 砖注转讬讛, and all his days, all his lifetime, the other 讞讻诪讬诐 did not admit to him. 讜讗诪专讬 诇讛, some say, 讻诇 住讬注转讬讛, all his colleagues did not admit to him. It was his opinion that it's 诪讜转专, but the others did not agree to him. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues,

Rabbi Elazar Questions Timing of Marriage After Get

讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专 诇讛讛讜讗 住讘讗, 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专 said to this 讞讻诐, this was one of the 讞讻诪讬诐 that was part of the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 that was 诪转讬专 this woman to get married. So he said to him, 讻讬 砖专讬转讜讛, when you were 诪转讬专, when you permitted this woman to get married, 诇讗诇转专 砖专讬转讜讛, did you permit it right away, 讚诇讗 讗转讬, because we know for sure he won't come, 讗讜 讚讬诇诪讗, or maybe, 诇讗讞专 砖谞讬诐 注砖专 讞讜讚砖, only after 12 months, 讚讛讗 讗讬拽讬讬诐 诇讬讛 转谞讗讬, because that's when their condition is fulfilled? The case that we're speaking about here, when he gave her the 讙讟 and said that this should be your 讙讟 if I don't come back after 12 months, and he died in the middle, so even though he died before the 12 months were up, but we know for sure that he's not going to come back. So when they were 诪转讬专 her to get married, could she get married right away, because even though the condition wasn't fulfilled yet, because the 12 months weren't up yet, but since we know for sure that he's not going to come, she is already 诪讜转专转, or must she wait for 12 months that the condition should actually be fulfilled? And as 转讜住驻讜转 says, that 诇讻讗讜专讛 what kind of question is it? Since we know for sure he's not going to come, so the condition was fulfilled already, so why should there be a 住讘专讗 to say that she shouldn't be able to get married right away? And 转讜住驻讜转 said that 讘讗诪转 讟讗拽注 诪诪讬讚转 讛讚讬谉 she could get married right away. The question what he asked was whether 讞讻诪讬诐 made a 讙讝讬专讛 that she shouldn't get married right away, 讙讝讬专讛 诪转 讗讟讜 诇讗 诪转. If we're going to allow her to get married right away in this case, so in the case where he wouldn't have died, but he wouldn't have come back till after 12 months, people would also allow her to get married before the 12 months are up, and there for sure you're not allowed. So therefore he asked him, was there a 讙讝讬专讛 made that she shouldn't get married till after 12 months, or do we say since 诇驻讜注诇 he died and we know for sure he's not going to come, there is no 讙讝讬专讛 made and she could get married right away? So he said to him, why do you ask the question concerning this 讚讬谉? 讜转讬讘注讬 诇讱 讗诪转谞讬转讬谉, why don't you ask the same question on the other part of the 诪砖谞讛? 讚转谞谉, and it says in the 诪砖谞讛 there, 讛专讬 讝讛 讙讬讟讱 诪注讻砖讬讜 讗诐 诇讗 讘讗转讬 诪讻讗谉 讜注讚 砖谞讬诐 注砖专 讞讜讚砖, if he gives her a 讙讟 and he says, let this be your 讙讟 from now if I don't come back till after 12 months, 讜诪转 讘转讜讱 砖谞讬诐 注砖专 讞讜讚砖, and he died within the twelve months, 讛讜讛 讙讟, it is a 讙讟. Why? 讚讛讗 讗讬拽讬讬诐 诇讬讛 转谞讗讬讛, because the condition was fulfilled. In the case before where he didn't say 诪注讻砖讬讜, that's where we have the 诪讞诇讜拽转. The 讞讻诪讬诐 hold that the 讙讟 is not a 讙讟, because since he didn't say from now, the 讙讟 is not valid till after twelve months, and then it's already 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛 and 讗讬谉 讙讟 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛. But in this case the 诪砖谞讛 says, since he said 诪注讻砖讬讜, so then everyone agrees that the 讙讟 is a good 讙讟, because he said that if he doesn't come back, the 讙讟 should be from now, and now he is alive, that's why the 讙讟 is a good 讙讟. So that's what that 讞讻诐 said to 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专, 讜转讬讘注讬 诇讱, why can't you ask the 拽砖讬讗 on this 诪砖谞讛 itself? 诇讗诇转专 讛讜讛 讙讬讟讗, when this 诪砖谞讛 says that in the case where he said 诪注讻砖讬讜, the 讙讟 is a 讙讟 if he died in the middle, is the 讙讟 a 讙讟 right away, 讚讛讗 诇讗 讗转讬, because we know for sure he's not going to come, so the condition was already fulfilled, 讗讜 讚讬诇诪讗, maybe, 诇讗讞专 讬"讘 讞讜讚砖, you have to wait till after twelve months, 讚讛讗 讗讬拽讬讬诐 诇讬讛 转谞讗讬讛, because that's when the condition will be fulfilled? So why did you ask the question concerning the case where only we were 诪转讬专, why didn't you ask the question concerning the case where everyone agrees? So he says, 讗讬谉 讛讻讬 谞诪讬, you're right, the question applies also to that 诪砖谞讛. 讗诇讗 诪砖讜诐 讚讛讜讬转 讘讗讛讜 诪谞讬谞讗, because you were one of those people that were included in the count, in the vote, and you were 诪转讬专 that woman to get married, that's why I'm asking you concerning that 讚讬谉. And when I will hear an answer from you concerning that 讚讬谉, I will understand that the same thing applies to this 诪砖谞讛. If you will tell me that in your case she's allowed to get married right away, so I'll understand that in the case of the 诪砖谞讛 where he said 诪注讻砖讬讜, she's also allowed to get married right away. If you'll tell me that in your case she has to wait twelve months, I'm going to understand that in the case of the 诪砖谞讛 where it's 诪注讻砖讬讜, she also have to wait twelve months. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues, 讗诪专 讗讘讬讬, 讗讘讬讬 said, 讛讻诇 诪讜讚讬诐, everyone agrees, even 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 will agree that if he gives her a 讙讟 and he says to her these words: 诇讻砖转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, that this should be your 讙讟 when the sun will come out of its cover, which means when it'll become light and it'll become day, so then, 诇讻讬 谞驻拽讗 拽讗诪专 诇讛, he's actually saying when the sun will come out, and not before. 讜讻讬 诪讬讬转 讘诇讬诇讬讗, so therefore if he dies during the night before the sun came out, 讙讟 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛 讛讜讗, it is considered a 讙讟 after 诪讬转讛, and a 讙讟 after 诪讬转讛 is not a valid 讙讟. And this is according to everybody, 讗讘讬讬 says. Even according to 专讘讬 讬讜住讬, who says that if we have a date in the 砖讟专, that is as if he wrote 诪注讻砖讬讜, as if he wrote that this should be valid from now, nevertheless, in this case we don't say that. Look, we only say that in the case where he said, 讗诐 诇讗 讘讗转讬. For instance, the case before where he said this should be your 讙讟 if I don't come from now till after twelve months. So we say since he wrote the date in the 砖讟专, so it's as if he said that this 讙讟 should be a 讙讟 from today if I don't come after twelve months, which means that the coming after twelve months is a condition. He's giving the 讙讟 now, on condition that if he doesn't come within twelve months, the 讙讟 should be a 讙讟. But in this case here, he didn't make it as a condition. He didn't say, 讗诐 转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛. He said, 诇讻砖转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, when the sun will come out of its cover. So he meant to say that when the sun will come out of its cover, that's when the 讙讟 will be a 讙讟, but not before that. And even though one might ask, but after all, according to 专讘讬 讬讜住讬, since it has a date, so the date of the 砖讟专 should prove that it's as if he wrote 诪讛讬讜诐. So even though he didn't say 讗诐, but he said 诇讻砖转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, but still it's as if he wrote the word 诪讛讬讜诐, since it does have a date. So the 驻砖讟 is, as 专砖"讬 explains, that it's as if he wrote both. Since it has a date, and a date is as if it said 讛讬讜诐, so it's as if he wrote that the 讙讟 should be 诪讛讬讜诐 讜诇讻砖转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, from today and when the sun will come out of its 谞专转讬拽. When you write like that, we have a 住驻拽 what he meant. On one hand, we could say that when he said it should be from today, and then he added the words when this and this will happen, so the first thing, the words from today, is the time he wants the 讙讟 to be 讞诇, on condition that that thing will happen. Or maybe, since he didn't write it in a form of condition, he didn't even write it in a form of 讗诐, if this will happen, but he said when this will happen, so the second expression is a 讞专讟讛, he changed his mind from the first expression. And since it's a 住驻拽, we don't know which one it is, and by a 讙讟, since it's a 住驻拽, it is a 住驻拽 讙讟. So therefore, she cannot get married on that 讙讟, even according to 专讘讬 讬讜住讬. Even though we do assume that it's as if he wrote 诪讛讬讜诐, but it's a 住驻拽 what he meant with that. Did he mean the 讙讟 should be from today on condition when the sun will come out, or we assume that he changed his mind from the word that he wrote 诪讛讬讜诐, and what he meant to say is, when the sun will come out and before that not. And therefore it is not a 讙讟 even according to 专讘讬 讬讜住讬. 讛讙诐 as 讙诪专讗 says in 讘讘讗 讘转专讗 that in the case of a 诪转谞讛, when the father writes all his property away to a son, and he writes the words 诪讛讬讜诐 讜诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛, from today and after I die, he didn't write from today if I die, but from today and

Conditions on a Gittin and the Sun Clause

when I die, so 诇讻讗讜专讛 it's the same 诇砖讜谉 as here, and nevertheless over there 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 says that the son does get it, so 专砖状讬 says there it's different, because there we have a way to explain both expressions. What he meant was, that from today you get the 讙讜祝 of the property, the property itself, but the profit, the 驻讬专讜转, still goes to the father. After I die, that's when you will get the 驻讬专讜转 also. So there is no contradiction between the first and the second statements. Therefore, we say that that's what he meant. In a case where there is a contradiction between the two statements, when he says from today, and then he says when the sun will come out or any other thing he says, so there is a contradiction between the two statements, so there we say we don't know whether he meant that the second thing should be a condition in the first, or he changed his mind from the first and he meant only the second. Therefore, in a case of a 讙讟 where we cannot say that he meant both, one for the 讙讜祝 and one for the 驻讬专讜转, and it's a 住驻拽 what he meant, so there, even according to 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 she cannot get married. And that's what 讗讘讬讬 meant to say, that if he says the 诇砖讜谉, when the sun will come out of its cover, then everyone agrees, even 专讘讬 讬讜住讬, that the 讙讟 is not valid till after the sun comes out, and by then he already died, the 讙讟 is no 讙讟. On the other hand, everyone agrees that if he says 注诇 诪谞转 砖转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, on condition that the sun will come out of its cover, then everyone agrees 诪注讻砖讬讜 拽讗诪专 诇讛, he means the 讙讟 should be now, but on condition that the sun will come out. Therefore, 讜讻讬 诪讬讬转 讘诇讬诇讬讗, if he dies during the night, 讛讜讛 转谞讗讛, certainly this was only a condition, the 讙讟 诪拽讜讬诐 讛讜讗, and the 讙讟 is a good 讙讟 because the 讙讟 is valid from the time he was still alive, 讻讬 讚专讘 讛讜谞讗, like 专讘 讛讜谞讗 said, 讚讗诪专 专讘 讛讜谞讗, because 专讘 讛讜谞讗 said, 讻诇 讛讗讜诪专 注诇 诪谞转, anybody who says the expression 注诇 诪谞转, on condition, 讻讗讜诪专 诪注讻砖讬讜 讚诪讬, it is as if he said from now. If you say the expression that this 讙讟 should be from now if this happens, then certainly it means the 讙讟 is valid now if that happens. What he says is, even if he didn't use the word 诪注讻砖讬讜, from now, but he said the 讙讟 should be a 讙讟 on condition that happens, it also means that the 讙讟 should be a 讙讟 now on condition if that thing happens. So there is no 诪讞诇讜拽转 concerning that either. 诇讗 谞讞诇拽讜, where they didn't argue, which means 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 who was 诪转讬专 this woman to get married, and the other 讞讻诪讬诐 who didn't accept his 驻住拽 讚讬谉, their 诪讞诇讜拽转 is only 讗诇讗 讘讗诐 转爪讗. If he gives a 讙讟 and he says 讘讗诐 转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, if the sun will come out from its cover, so 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 住讘专 诇讛 讻讬 专讘讬 讬讜住讬, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗 holds like 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 that said, 讚讗诪专, who says, 讝诪谞讜 砖诇 砖讟专 诪讜讻讬讞 注诇讬讜, that the time, the date of the 砖讟专 proved that it's as if he said from now, 讜讛讜讛 诇讬讛, so this has the same 讚讬谉 as if he would have said 讻讬 诪讛讬讜诐 讗诐 诪转讬, if he would have said, here I give you a 讙讟 from today if I will die, or 讻讬 诪注讻砖讬讜 讗诐 诪转讬, or if he would have written in the 讙讟 from now if I die. And in a case like that, for sure the 讚讬谉 is that the 讙讟 is a 讙讟, because the 讙讟 is valid while he was still alive. So the same is in the case where he writes 讗诐 转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, and it has a date, so it's as if he wrote 诪讛讬讜诐 讗诐 转爪讗 讞诪讛 诪谞专转讬拽讛, which means that the 讙讟 is 讞诇 right away, and therefore the 讙讟 is a good 讙讟. This is the opinion of 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗. 讜专讘谞谉, the 专讘谞谉 who argue against 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛谞砖讬讗, 诇讬转 诇讛讜 讚专讘讬 讬讜住讬, they don't accept the 住讘专讗 of 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 that the date is as if he wrote 诪注讻砖讬讜, 讜讛讜讛 诇讬讛, so this is like 讻讬 讝讛 讙讬讟讱 讗诐 诪转讬 讙专讬讚讗, it's only as if he would have said, this is your 讙讟 if I die, without adding the words from now. So since it is not a 讙讟 from now, the 讙讟 is only a 讙讟 after he dies, and since couldn't be 讗讬谉 讙讟 诇讗讞专 诪讬转讛, so the 讙讟 is no good 讙讟. Then the

Discussion of Gittin Validity and Death Timing

讙诪专讗 continues, 讙讜驻讗, now we'll discuss the 讙讜祝 of what we brought before, it says 讛注讬讚 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛, that 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专, the person from 爪专讬讚讛 testified 注诇 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗 讚讻谉, on this special kind of locust that it's 讟讛讜专, you're allowed to eat it, 讜注诇 诪砖拽讗 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 讚讚讻谉, and on the liquid from the slaughterhouse of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 that it doesn't become 讟诪讗, 讜讚讬拽专讘 讘诪讬转讗 诪住讗讘, and also that somebody who touches a dead body becomes 讟诪讗. 讜拽专讜 诇讬讛, and they called him 讬讜住讬 砖专讬讗, 讬讜住讬 who allowed, who permitted. 讙诪专讗 asks: 诪讗讬 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗? So what is this 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗? 专讘 驻驻讗 讗诪专 砖讜砖讘讬讘讗. 专讘 驻驻讗 says this means the 砖讜砖讘讬讘讗. 住讜讝讘讬诇. 讜专讘 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗诪讬 诪砖诪讬讛 讚注讜诇讗 讗诪专, 专讘 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗诪讬 in the name of 注讜诇讗 said that what is it? 住讜讝讘讬诇. 砖讜砖讬讘讗 is a kind of locust that has a long head, and 住讜讝讘讬诇 is a kind of locust that has a short head. And the 讙诪专讗 explains that 专讘 驻驻讗 讗诪专 砖讜砖讬讘讗, according to 专讘 驻驻讗 who says that what is this 讗讬诇 拽诪爪讗? 砖讜砖讬讘讗. 拽诪讬驻诇讙讬, so the 诪讞诇讜拽转 is between 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 and the other ones who did not accept this 讛讬转专. 讘专讗砖讜 讗专讜讱, concerning the locust that has a long head, whether this is a 住讬诪谉 of it being 讟讛讜专 or not. 诪专 住讘专 专讗砖讜 讗专讜讱 讗住讜专, one of them holds that if it has a long head it's 讗住讜专, 讜诪专 住讘专, and 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 holds, that 专讗砖讜 讗专讜讱 诪讜转专, that if it has a long head it's 诪讜转专. And as 专砖状讬 explains, this is a 诪讞诇讜拽转 of 转谞讗讬诐 in the 讙诪专讗 讞讜诇讬谉. Because it says in the 讞讜诪砖 concerning the 住讬诪谞讬诐 of 讻砖专 grasshoppers, it says there that it is 讗专讘讛 and 住诇注诐 and 讞专讙讜诇 and 讞讙讘. And the 讙诪专讗 there has a 诪讞诇讜拽转 based on this, if it is with a long head, if it's 讻砖专 or not. Some there 讚专砖谞谉 a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟. And the

General vs Specific Rules for Kosher Locusts

讚讬谉 by a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟 is 讗讬谉 讘讻诇诇 讗诇讗 诪讛 砖讘驻专讟. The 讻诇诇 is that when the 转讜专讛 mentions a general rule and then the 转讜专讛 mentions details, so we say that this is a 讻诇诇 and then comes a 驻专讟, and the 讛诇讻讛 is 讗讬谉 讘讻诇诇 讗诇讗 诪讛 砖讘驻专讟. That the only thing that's included in this rule are only those things which are actually mentioned in detail. And therefore, in this case also, we say that which grasshoppers are 诪讜转专? Only those that are mentioned by name in the 转讜专讛, which is 讗专讘讛, 住诇注诐, and 讞专讙讜诇, and 讞讙讘. But any other kind is 讗住讜专. And these kinds mentioned here don't have long heads, so according to this opinion, if it has a long head, it is not included in these that are mentioned in the 转讜专讛, and therefore it is 讗住讜专. But the other opinion holds that the way to 讚专砖 it is not a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟, but it is a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟 讜讻诇诇. And the 讚讬谉 by a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟 讜讻诇诇 is that it doesn't include everything, but on the other hand, it includes more than the 驻专讟, but it has to be something which is similar to the 驻专讟. So we say that which grasshoppers are 诪讜转专? Those that have the same 住讬诪谞讬诐 as the ones that are mentioned. And what are they? It has to have four feet, four wings, it has to have 拽专住讜诇讬谉, and it has to have the wings should cover the majority of the body. But if it has a long head, that doesn't make it 讗住讜专. And therefore, according to that opinion, the long head is still 诪讜转专. And that's what the 讙诪专讗 says here, that the 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 and the other 讞讻诪讬诐 was that the other 讞讻诪讬诐 held like the first opinion, that it's a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟, and only those things mentioned in the 转讜专讛 are 诪讜转专. And therefore, the 砖讜砖讬讘讗, since it has a long head, it is not one of those four, it is 讗住讜专. While 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 held that we don't 讚专砖 it with a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟, but a 讻诇诇 讜驻专讟 讜讻诇诇, so it doesn't have to be exactly like those 诪讬谞讬诐. It has to be similar to them, similar in the four 住讬诪谞讬诐 that the 讙诪专讗 gives, so therefore, even if it has a long head, it is still 诪讜转专. This is the way it is according to 专讘 驻驻讗. 讜专讘 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗诪讬 诪砖诪讬讛 讚注讜诇讗 讗诪专, but 专讘 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗诪讬 in the name of 注讜诇讗 said that what is it? 住讜讝讘讬诇. Because 砖讜砖讬讘讗, he said, everyone holds is 讗住讜专, because 讘专讗砖讜 讗专讜讱 讻讜诇讬 注诇诪讗 诇讗 驻诇讬讙讬 讚讗住讜专. Concerning the long head, everyone holds it's 讗住讜专. 讜讛讻讗 讘讻谞驻讬讜 讞讜驻讜转 讗转 专讜讘讜 注诇 讬讚讬 讛讚讞拽 拽诪讬驻诇讙讬. The

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转讜住驻讜转 asks a 拽砖讬讗 on that, because in 讙诪专讗 in 讞讜诇讬谉 驻专拽 讗诇讜 讟专驻讜转 讚祝 住状讜 it says there, 转谞讗 讚讘讬 专讘讬 讬砖诪注讗诇, in the 讬砖讬讘讛 of 专讘讬 讬砖诪注讗诇 they learned, 专讗砖讜 讗专讜讱 诪讜转专, that if it has a long head it's 诪讜转专. So we see that not everyone agrees that if it has a long head it's 讗住讜专. And in the 诪砖谞讛 there it's also 诪砖诪注 like that, that if it has a long head it's 诪讜转专. And there in the 诪砖谞讛 also it's 诪砖诪注 that a long head is 诪讜转专, because there in the 诪砖谞讛 it mentions what are the 住讬诪谞讬诐 of a 讻砖专 grasshopper, and it doesn't mention one of the 住讬诪谞讬诐 it shouldn't have a long head. And also in the end of 驻专拽 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗, in 讙诪专讗 砖讘转 讚祝 爪壮 注诪讜讚 讘壮, it says there that 专讘 saw 专讘 讻讛谞讗 that he was carrying and holding a 砖讜砖讬讘讗 by his mouth. So he said to him, "Take it away, you might come to eat from it while it's alive, and you'll be 注讜讘专 on the 讗讬住讜专 of 讘诇 转砖拽爪讜. You're not allowed to eat things which are disgusting, and since to eat it alive is disgusting, so take it away from your mouth, you shouldn't come to eat it and be 注讜讘专 on 讘诇 转砖拽爪讜." Is 诪砖诪注 that only if he would have eaten it alive he would be 注讜讘专 on the 讗讬住讜专 of 讘诇 转砖拽爪讜, but if it would be dead, then he wouldn't be 注讜讘专. 讗讬 砖讜砖讬讘讗 with a long head, is 诪砖诪注 that he holds 砖讜砖讬讘讗 is 诪讜转专. So how could he say here that concerning 砖讜砖讬讘讗, since it had a long head, everyone agrees that it's 讗住讜专? Therefore, the 专讘谞讜 转诐 is 讙讜专住 different here, that the reason he says the 诪讞诇讜拽转 is by 住讜讝讘讬诇, not by 砖讜砖讬讘讗, because concerning 砖讜砖讬讘讗, which has a long head, 讻讜诇讬 注诇诪讗 诇讗 驻诇讬讙讬 讚诪讜转专, everyone holds it's 诪讜转专. And this is also the 讙讬专住讗 of the 专状讞. And that makes sense, that this fits to the 讙诪专讗's there where we see that a long head is 诪讜转专. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues, we also said before that what did 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 also say is 诪讜转专? 讜诪砖拽讬谉 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 讚讻谉, the liquid of the slaughterhouse of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 is 讟讛讜专, that the liquid is not 诪讟诪讗. The 讙诪专讗 asks, 诪讗讬 讚讻谉? What do we mean it's 讟讛讜专? The 讙诪专讗 says, 专讘 讗诪专 专讘 says, 讚讻谉 诪诪砖, it is 诪诪砖 讟讛讜专, it itself is also 讟讛讜专. 讜砖诪讜讗诇 讗诪专, and 砖诪讜讗诇 says, 讚讻谉 诪诇讟诪讗 讗讞专讬诐, it's 讟讛讜专 from making other things 讟诪讗, 讗讘诇 讟讜诪讗转 注爪诪谉 讬砖 讘讛谉, but its own 讟讜诪讗讛 it does have. And the 讙诪专讗 explains what the base of the 诪讞诇讜拽转 is. 专讘 讗诪专 讚讻谉 诪诪砖, 专讘 said that what he meant was that it's completely 讟讛讜专. 拽住讘专, he holds 讟讜诪讗转 诪砖拽讬谉 讚专讘谞谉, that 诪砖拽讬谉 should become 讟诪讗 讘讻诇诇 is only a 讚讬谉 讚专讘谞谉, but 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, 诪砖拽讬谉 doesn't become 讟诪讗. 讜讻讬 讙讝专讜 专讘谞谉 讟讜诪讗讛 讘诪砖拽讬谉 讚注诇诪讗, when did the 专讘谞谉 make their 讙讝讬专讛 that 诪砖拽讬谉 does become 讟诪讗? Only by other 诪砖拽讬谉, other liquid, 讗讘诇 诪砖拽讬谉 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗, by the liquid of the slaughterhouse of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, 诇讗 讙讝专讜 专讘谞谉, the 专讘谞谉 did not make a 讙讝讬专讛. 讜砖诪讜讗诇 讗诪专, but 砖诪讜讗诇 says, 讚讻谉 诪诇讟诪讗 讗讞专讬诐, that it's only 讟讛讜专 from making other things 讟诪讗, 讗讘诇 讟讜诪讗转 注爪诪谉 讬砖 讘讛谉, but its own 讟讜诪讗讛 it has. Why? 拽住讘专, because he holds 讟讜诪讗转 诪砖拽讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, that 诪砖拽讬谉 become 讟诪讗 is a 讚讬谉 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗. The only thing is 诇讟诪讗 讗讞专讬诐 讚专讘谞谉, only the fact that 诪砖拽讬谉 could make other things 讟诪讗, that is a 讚讬谉 讚专讘谞谉. 讜讻讬 讙讝专讜 专讘谞谉 讘诪砖拽讬谉 讚注诇诪讗, when did the 专讘谞谉 make this 讙讝讬专讛 that 诪砖拽讬谉 should make other things 讟诪讗? Only by other 诪砖拽讬谉, 讗讘诇 诪砖拽讬谉 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 诇讗 讙讝专讜, but by liquid of the slaughterhouse of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 they didn't make a 讙讝讬专讛. They couldn't make a 讚讬谉 that the 诪砖拽讬谉 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 should be 讟讛讜专 讘讻诇诇 and not be 讟诪讗 at all, because this is a 讚讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗. All the 专讘谞谉 could do, that their 讚讬谉 that they made, they could limit it that it shouldn't apply to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, but a thing which is 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, that they can't change. So therefore, since 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 诪砖拽讬谉 becomes 讟诪讗, so also the 诪砖拽讬谉 of the 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 also becomes 讟诪讗 according to 砖诪讜讗诇. The only thing the 专讘谞谉 could do, that the 讙讝讬专讛 讚专讘谞谉 that 诪砖拽讬谉 should not make other things 讟诪讗, that they could limit, shouldn't apply to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. But the fact that 诪砖拽讬谉 is 讟诪讗 itself, that is a 讚讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, and therefore that applies also to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. And the 专讗状砖 brings that the 讙诪专讗 in 驻住讞讬诐 asks a 拽砖讬讗 on 专讘, who says that 诪砖拽讬谉 doesn't become 讟诪讗 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, from a 驻住讜拽 where it says, 讜讻诇 诪砖拽讛 讗砖专 讬砖转讛 讜讙讜壮, where it's 诪砖诪注 that it does become 讟诪讗, and the 讙诪专讗 answers that there it doesn't speak about 讟讜诪讗讛, but about 讛讻砖专 讟讜诪讗讛. We know that food cannot become 讟诪讗, even if it touches a 砖专抓 or anything else that's 讟诪讗, unless it first becomes 诪讜讻砖专 诇拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛, first it becomes ready to accept 讟讜诪讗讛. What makes food ready to accept 讟讜诪讗讛? If it gets wet. And that's what the 驻住讜拽 there means, that if liquid falls on food, then the food becomes ready, that now if a 砖专抓 or any other 讟讜诪讗讛 will touch it, it'll become 讟诪讗. But 诪砖拽讛 itself doesn't become 讟诪讗 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 according to 专讘, and therefore he holds that the 诪砖拽讬谉 of 讘讬转 诪讟讘讞讬讗 doesn't become 讟诪讗 even 诪讚专讘谞谉. And according to 砖诪讜讗诇, it becomes 讟诪讗, but it can't make other things 讟诪讗, because that is only a 讚讬谉 讚专讘谞谉. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues, the third thing that he said was, 讜讚讬拽专讘 诇诪讬转讗 诪住讗讘, that if you get close to a dead body, you become 讟诪讗. And because he made these three things 诪讜转专, 讜拽专讜 诇讬讛 讬讜住讬 砖专讬讗, so they called 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专, they called him 讬讜住讬 who permits. But the 讙诪专讗 asks, 讬讜住讬 讗住专讗 诪讘注讬 诇讬讛, the 讬讜住讬 who makes things 讗住专讗 they should have said, because the last thing wasn't a 讛讬转专, but it was an 讗讬住讜专. The last thing was that if you touch a dead body, you become 讟诪讗, so that's not a 讛讬转专, that's an 讗讬住讜专. So if they would call him anything because of that, they should call him 讬讜住祝 讗住专讗, but not 讬讜住祝 砖专讬讗. 讜注讜讚, another 拽讜砖讬讗, 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 讛讬讗! How can you say that he made a 讚讬谉 that if you touch a dead body, you become 讟诪讗? This is a 讚讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗! 讚讻转讬讘, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 讜讻诇 讗砖专 讬讙注 注诇 驻谞讬 讛砖讚讛, anything it will touch on the field, 讘讞诇诇 讞专讘, in a dead body who was killed through a sword, 讗讜 讘诪转, or in a dead body 讜讙讜诪专, and the 驻住讜拽 continues that you become 讟诪讗. So we see that the 讚讬谉 that if you touch a dead body, you become 讟诪讗 is a 讚讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗. So how can we say that 讬讜住祝 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 was the one that made that 讚讬谉? The 讙诪专讗 answers, 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, 讚讬拽专讘 讟诪讗. If you get close to it, you become 讟诪讗. If you touch yourself the dead body, you become 讟诪讗. But 讚讬拽专讘 讘讚讬拽专讘, if you touch, you get close to the one that got close, that touched the dead body, you are still 讟讛讜专. Only if you touch the dead body itself, but if you touch the person who touched the dead body, you don't become 讟诪讗. 讜讗转讜 讗讬谞讛讜, then came the 专讘谞谉, 讜讙讝专讜, they made a 讙讝讬专讛, 讗驻讬诇讜 讚讬拽专讘 讘讚讬拽专讘, even if you get close, you touch the one that got close, the one that touched a dead body, you should also be 讟诪讗. 讜讗转讗 讗讬讛讜, so came 讬讜住祝 讘谉 讬讜注讝专, 讜讗讜拽诪讛 讗讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, and he put it back to the way it's the 讚讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗. And that's what we mean when he said that if you get close to a dead body, you become 讟诪讗, what he meant was that only if you get close to a dead body, you become 讟诪讗, but not if you get close to the one that got close to the dead body. And this is already a 讛讬转专, and that's why they called him 讬讜住祝 砖专讬讗. But then the 讙诪专讗 asks, 讚讬拽专讘 讘讚讬拽专讘 谞诪讬 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 讛讬讗! This 讚讬谉 that if you get close to the one that got close to the dead body is 讟诪讗, this is also a 讚讬谉 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗! 讚讻转讬讘, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 讜讻诇 讗砖专 讬讙注 讘讜 讛讟诪讗 讬讟诪讗, that anything that the 讟诪讗 will touch will become 讟诪讗. So we see clearly that the person who became 讟诪讗 by touching a dead body, if he touches something else, that something else becomes 讟诪讗. And this is a 驻住讜拽 in the 转讜专讛! So we see 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 the 讚讬谉 is that if you touch the person who touched the dead body, you become 讟诪讗! The 讙诪专讗 says, 讗诪专讜 专讘谞谉 拽诪讬讛 讚专讘讗, the 专讘谞谉 said this in front of 专讘讗, 诪砖诪讬讛 讚诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讘专讬讛 讚专讘 谞讞诪谉, in the name of 诪专 讝讜讟专讗, the son of 专讘 谞讞诪谉, 讚讗诪专 诪砖诪讬讛 讚专讘 谞讞诪谉, that said in the name of 专讘 谞讞诪谉, that 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, 讚讬拽专讘 讘讚讬拽专讘 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉 讟讜诪讗转 砖讘注讛, that if you get close, that means that if you touch the one that touched the dead body while he is still connected, still touching the body, then you are 讟诪讗 for seven days. The 讚讬谉 is that if a person touches a dead body, then he is 讟诪讗 for seven days. Other types of 讟讜诪讗讛, as soon as you become 讟诪讗 you could go to the 诪拽讜讛, and then you wait for 讛注专讘 砖诪砖, you wait till the sun sets of that day that you went to the 诪拽讜讛, and you are 讟讛讜专. But if you become a 讟诪讗 诪转, if you touch a dead body and you become 讟诪讗, then you have a 讟讜诪讗讛 for seven days, and you have to be sprinkled with the 讗驻专 驻专讛, with the ashes from the 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛, on the third and on the seventh day, and then you become 讟讛讜专 afterwards. So the 驻住讜拽 is saying here that if you touch the person who touched the dead body while he's still touching the dead body, so then you also become 讟讜诪讗转 砖讘注讛, you also become 讟诪讗 the same 讟讜诪讗讛 as the other person for seven days. But 砖诇讗 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉 讟讜诪讗转 注专讘. But if you touched the person who touched the dead body, but not while he is connected still to the dead body, after he took his hand away from the dead body, then you touch him, then you become 讟讜诪讗转 注专讘, you only become 讟诪讗 till the evening. That's the 讚讬谉 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗. 讜讗转讜 讗讬谞讛讜, came the 专讘谞谉, 讜讙讝专讜, and they made a 讙讝讬专讛, 讗驻讬诇讜 砖诇讗 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉 讟讜诪讗转 砖讘注讛, that even if you touched the person who touched the dead body not while he is still touching the dead body, you are also 讟诪讗 for seven days. 讜讗转讗 讗讬讛讜, so came 讬讜住祝 讘谉 讬讜注讝专, 讜讗讜拽诪讛 讗讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, and he brought it back to the 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, that if you touched the person who touched the dead body after he let go of the dead body, then you are not 讟诪讗 for seven days, but you are only 讟诪讗 till the evening. Then the 讙诪专讗 says, 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 诪讗讬 讛讬讗? Where do we see in the 转讜专讛 this 讚讬谉 that if you touch the person who is still touching the dead body, you have to be 讟诪讗 for seven days? 讚讻转讬讘, because the 驻住讜拽 says, one 驻住讜拽 says, 讛谞讜讙注 讘诪转 诇讻诇 谞驻砖 讗讚诐 讜讟诪讗 砖讘注转 讬诪讬诐, that if you touch a dead body, you are 讟诪讗 for seven days. 讜讻转讬讘, another 驻住讜拽 says, 讜讻诇 讗砖专 讬讙注 讘讜 讛讟诪讗 讬讟诪讗, that whatever this 讟诪讗 will touch will become 讟诪讗. And since the 驻住讜拽 doesn't give any limits, is 诪砖诪注 that whatever he touches becomes 讟诪讗 like he. Just like he is 讟诪讗 for seven days, so the thing he will touch or the person he will touch will also become 讟诪讗 for seven days. 讜讻转讬讘, but there's another 驻住讜拽 that says, 讜讛谞驻砖 讛谞讙注转 转讟诪讗 注讚 讛注专讘, that the person that will touch will become 讟诪讗 till the evening. 讛讗 讻讬爪讚? How is it possible? From the first 驻住讜拽 is 诪砖诪注 that if this 讟诪讗 who touched that dead body, who himself is 讟诪讗 for seven days, will touch something else, that something else will have to be 讟诪讗 for seven days too. On the other hand, the other 驻住讜拽 says that it will only become 讟诪讗 till the evening. How do we put these two 驻住讜拽讬诐 together? 讻讗谉 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉 讻讗谉 砖诇讗 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉. That teaches us that here, where it says that the second person also becomes 讟诪讗 for seven days, that's if he touched the first person when he was still

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connected to the dead body. And the other 驻住讜拽, where it says he's only 讟诪讗 till the evening, that's when he touched him 砖诇讗 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, that's when he was not connected to the dead body, after he let go. So then he also becomes 讟诪讗, but he doesn't become 讟诪讗 for seven days. And the 讙诪专讗 says, 讗诪专 诇讛讜 专讘讗, 专讘讗 said to them, 诇讗讜 讗诪讬谞讗 诇讻讜, didn't I tell you, 诇讗 转讬转诇讜 讘讬 讘讜拽讬 住专讬拽讬 讘专讘 谞讞诪谉, you shouldn't hang on empty jars of 专讘 谞讞诪谉. In other words, don't say things which are not true in the name of 专讘 谞讞诪谉. Because they said in the name of 专讘 谞讞诪谉 that what was the third thing that 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛 was 诪转讬专, was this 讚讬谉, that if you touch a person who touched a dead body, you are not 讟诪讗 for seven days if it was not 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉. So he said, this is not what 专讘 谞讞诪谉 said. 讛讻讬 讗诪专 专讘 谞讞诪谉, this is what 专讘 谞讞诪谉 said was the third thing that 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛 was 诪转讬专: 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 讛转讬专 诇讛诐. He was 诪转讬专 them if there is a 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 in the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐. If a person has a 住驻拽 whether he became 讟诪讗 or not, and the 住驻拽 arose in the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, in the public place, so then he said it is 诪讜转专. And that's what he meant when he said that if you touch a dead body you are 讟诪讗, that only if you are 讜讚讗讬 that you touched the dead body you are 讟诪讗, but if it's a 住驻拽 whether you touched the dead body, then you are not 讟诪讗. But then the 讙诪专讗 asks, 讜讛讗 讛诇讻讛 诪住讜讟讛 讙诪讬专讬谞谉 诇讛, how can you say this was a 讚讬谉 that he said? This is a 讚讬谉 that we learn out from 住讜讟讛. 诪讛 住讜讟讛 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 讗祝 讟讜诪讗讛 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚. Just like 住讜讟讛 happens in a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚, so too when is it 讟诪讗, if it's a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚. The 讚讬谉 of a 住讜讟讛 is, if a person warns his wife not to hide with a certain man, and she goes along and she does hide with him, she becomes a 住讜讟讛, and you have to take her to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, and she has to drink the 诪讬诐 讛诪讗专专讬诐, etc. Now

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there, it is not 讜讚讗讬 that she became 讟诪讗讛, that she did the 注讘讬专讛. The 驻住讜拽 says, 讜谞住转专讛 讜讛讬讗 谞讟诪讗讛. She hid, and she is considered that she did an 注讘讬专讛 and she became 讟诪讗讛, and therefore, to be sure, you have to take her to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖 and go through the whole thing of a 住讜讟讛. So from there we learn out, that when is 讟讜诪讗讛 considered a 讟讜诪讗讛 in a case where it's a 住驻拽, only if it's in a hidden place, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 讜谞住转专讛 讜讛讬讗 谞讟诪讗讛, she hid and she became 讟诪讗讛, that if it's in a hidden place, in a private place, like by the case of 住讜讟讛, that's when we assume that it is 讟诪讗. But if it's in a place where it's open, not hidden, a 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, then it is not 讟诪讗. So from there we know that 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚, if it's a doubtful 讟讜诪讗讛, but it's in the private place, it is 讟诪讗. But if it is 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, if it's a doubtful 讟讜诪讗讛 but it's in a public place, it is 讟讛讜专. So the 讙诪专讗's 拽砖讬讗 is, how can you say that this was a 讚讬谉 said by 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛 when we learn this out from 住讜讟讛? And the 讙诪专讗 answers, 讜讛讗 讗诪专 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉, didn't 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉 say, 讛诇讻讛 讜讗讬谉 诪讜专讬谉 讻谉. This is 讟讗拽注 the 讛诇讻讛, but you shouldn't 驻住拽谉 like that, because people, when they'll hear that in a case like this it is 讟讛讜专, then they will come to be 诪转讬专 also if it's done in the 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚, and there it's 讗住讜专. 讜讗转讗 讗讬讛讜, so he came, 讜讗讜专讬 诇讛 注讬专讜讬讬, and he did 驻住拽谉 it in public. Till then they wouldn't 驻住拽谉 it in public, and he came and 驻住拽谞'讚 that everyone should know about it. 转谞讬谞讗 谞诪讬 讛讻讬, we 讟讗拽注 learn like that in the 讘专讬讬转讗, that says, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讗讜诪专, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 says, 拽讜专讜转 谞讞转 诇讛诐, beams he stuck into them, 讜讗诪专, and he said, 注讚 讻讗谉 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, 注讚 讻讗谉 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚, that till here is the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, till here is the 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚. In other words, 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讬讚讛 took beams, and he made signs in the floors, and he made 住讬诪谞讬诐 to know where the 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 ends, and where the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 ends. And why did he do that? So people should know that in case a 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 happens to them in these areas, they should know whether it's 讟讛讜专 or 讟诪讗. If it'll be within the border of the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 it'll be 讟讛讜专, if it'll be in the in the border of 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚, it'll be 讟诪讗. So we see that what he did was not that he made the 讚讬谉, but he publicized this 讚讬谉, even though before it wasn't known, and he publicized it so much till he actually made signs that people should know where the 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 and the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 ends. And 专砖"讬 explains why he had to put these signs up, even though usually we know where a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 and where a 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 is, so 专砖"讬 says because concerning the 讚讬谉 of 讟讜诪讗讛, when we say that 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 it's 讟讛讜专 and 讘专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 it's 讟诪讗, it is different than concerning 砖讘转. Here the 讚讬谉 is that if it's a valley, it is a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 诇讙讘讬 讟讜诪讗讛, because any area where the owner of the field is not 诪拽驻讬讚, doesn't want people to walk there, that has a 讚讬谉 of a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚. So therefore he had to put up signs to show which places have a 讚讬谉 of a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 诇讙讘讬 the 讚讬谉 of 讟讜诪讗讛 and which places have a 讚讬谉 of a 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 诇讙讘讬 讟讜诪讗讛. And also 专砖状讬 says, because it says in 讘讘讗 讘转专讗 that there are, for instance, four 讗诪讜转 which are close to the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, an empty space close to the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, which 诇讙讘讬 讟讜诪讗讛 has a 讚讬谉 like a 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, so these things which are not clear, he made the signs so they should know, because he publicized this 讚讬谉 that if it's a 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, it is 讟讛讜专. And then the 讙诪专讗 says, 讻讬 讗转讜 诇拽诪讬讛 讚专讘讬 讬谞讗讬, when they came to 专讘讬 讬谞讗讬, people who were 讟诪讗 诪住驻拽, who were in doubt whether they became 讟诪讗 or not, and it happened in the 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, when they came to 专讘讬 讬谞讗讬 to ask him whether they are 讟诪讗 or not, 讗诪专 诇讛讜, he said to them, 讞诪讬诪讬 讘砖讬拽爪讗 讚谞讛专讗, there's plenty of water in the depth of the river, 讝讬诇讜 讟讘讜诇讜, go 讟讜讘诇 yourself. In other words, he told them not to rely on the 讛讬转专 that this was 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, but they should go and 讟讜讘诇 themselves. Concerning what we said before, that originally they said in the name of 专讘 谞讞诪谉 that what was the 讛讬转专 of 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 讗讬砖 爪专讚讛, it was concerning the 讟讜诪讗讛 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, that 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 there is a 讟讜诪讗讛 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, but if it is not 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, then you don't become 讟诪讗 讟讜诪讗讛 诪砖讬讘讛, the 专讘谞谉 made a 讙讝讬专讛 you should become 讟诪讗 讟讜诪讗讛 诪砖讬讘讛, and he made it back to the way it was originally, that you are not 讟诪讗 讟讜诪讗讛 诪砖讬讘讛. And then 专讘讗 said to them, "Do not say things in the name of 专讘 谞讞诪谉 which is not true." So 转讜住驻讜转 says that doesn't mean that 专讘讗 argues that 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 there is a 讚讬谉 of 讟讜诪讗讛 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, that's what he meant. What he meant was it's 讟讗拽注 true, 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 there is a 讟讜诪讗讛 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, and the 专讘谞谉 came and added that even if it's not 讘讞讬讘讜专讬谉, there is a 讟讜诪讗讛 诪砖讬讘讛. What 专讘讗 said was that 专讘 谞讞诪谉 didn't say that this was what 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 was talking about. When 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 was 诪转讬专 something, this third thing was something else, was concerning 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, but not that he argues on the 讚讬谉, he just says that this is not what 专讘 谞讞诪谉 had said that 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讘谉 讬讜注讝专 meant when he made the third 讛讬转专. Also 转讜住驻讜转 says, when the 讙诪专讗 says that we learn out from 住讜讟讛 this 讚讬谉 that 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐 is 讟讛讜专, so 转讜住驻讜转 says, this 讚讬谉 we don't learn out from 住讜讟讛, because this 讚讬谉 would be, even if not for the 讚讬谉 of 住讜讟讛, because if you have a 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛, and there is a 讞讝拽转 讟讛专讛, then automatically it is 讟讛讜专. If something is 讟讛讜专, so it has a 讞讝拽转 讟讛专讛, then there is a 住驻拽 if it became 讟诪讗 or not, so the 讚讬谉 is that we follow the 讞讝拽讛 and it stays 讟讛讜专. So therefore, it's self-understood that if you're in the street and you are 讟讛讜专, and it's a 住驻拽 maybe you touched 讟讜诪讗讛 or not, since you have the 讞讝拽转 讟讛专讛, you are 讟讛讜专. For that, we don't have to have a special 讚讬谉 to learn out from 住讜讟讛 that it's 讟讛讜专. What we really learn out from 住讜讟讛 is the other half, that 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 is 讟诪讗, that if the same 住驻拽 came up in a private place, so even though you have a 讞讝拽转 讟讛专讛, nevertheless you are 讟诪讗. So when the 讙诪专讗 says we learn out from 住讜讟讛, the 讙诪专讗 mainly means this second half, the 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛 讘专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚, but the 讙诪专讗 refers to the general 讚讬谉 that there's a difference between a 专砖讜转 讛讬讞讬讚 and a 专砖讜转 讛专讘讬诐, that's what we learn out from 住讜讟讛. And then the 讙诪专讗 continues, it quotes from the 诪砖谞讛, 讜讛砖诇拽讜转, one of those things which are of 讙讜讬诐 that are 讗住讜专 to eat is 砖诇拽讜转, cooked food of 讙讜讬诐. The 讙诪专讗 asks, 诪谞讗 讛谞讬 诪讬诇讬, where do we know that from? 讗诪专 专讘 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗讘讗 讗诪专 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉, 专讘 讞讬讬讗 讘专 讗讘讗 said in the name of 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉, 讗诪专 拽专讗, the 驻住讜拽 says, 讗讜讻诇 讘讻住祝 转砖讘讬专谞讬 讜讗讻诇转讬, food for money I will buy and I will eat, 讜诪讬诐 讘讻住祝 转转谉 诇讬 讜砖转讬转讬, and water with silver, with money you will give me and I will drink. So we see the 转讜专讛 compares the food to the water, and this was said to the 讙讜讬诐, that when they wanted to cross the place of the 讙讜讬诐 of 讗讚讜诐, they said to him that we will buy food for money, and we will buy water for money, but the 转讜专讛 we see compares the food to the water, so we 讚专砖谉, 讻诪讬诐, it has to be like water. Which food of 讙讜讬诐 could you eat if it's like water? 诪讛 诪讬诐 砖诇讗 谞砖转谞讜, just like water that didn't change, 讗祝 讗讜讻诇 砖诇讗 谞砖转谞讛, also food that didn't change. And therefore food that was cooked by 讙讜讬诐, was changed by the 讙讜讬诐, you are not allowed to eat. So the 讙诪专讗 asks, 讗诇讗 诪注转讛, if so, 讞讬讟讬谉 讜注砖讗谉 讻诇讬讜转, if it was wheat, and the 讙讜讬 made it into 讻诇讬讜转, he dried it in the oven, didn't cook it, just dried it in the oven, 讛讻讗 谞诪讬 讚讗住讜专讬, will you tell me also it's 讗住讜专? If you're saying that the reason it's 讗住讜专 because as long as it was changed by the 讙讜讬, it is 讗住讜专, so this should also be 讗住讜专. 讜讻讬 转讬诪讗, and if you're going to say 讛讻讗 谞诪讬, it is true that it is also 讗住讜专, 讜讛转谞讬讗, didn't we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗, 讞讬讟讬谉 讜注砖讗谉 讻诇讬讜转, if it was wheat, and the 讙讜讬 made it into 讻诇讬讜转, dried it up in the oven, 诪讜转专, and it is 诪讜转专. So obviously it is not because we compare it to water and we say that just like water wasn't changed through the 讙讜讬诐, so too, which food can you eat? Only food that wasn't changed. 讗诇讗, what do we 讚专砖谞'谉? We say different: 讻诪讬诐, it has to be like water. 诪讛 诪讬诐 砖诇讗 谞砖转谞讜 诪讘专讬讬转谉, just like water wasn't changed from its original stage, the way it was created, 讗祝 讗讜讻诇 砖诇讗 谞砖转谞讛 诪讘专讬讬转讜. Also, which food could you eat of 讙讜讬诐? If it wasn't changed from the way it was originally, from the way it was created. And therefore, you're allowed to eat 拽诇讬讜转, because that isn't changed from the way it was originally. It's just dried, but it still has the same shape. But if it's cooked, and it changed its shape, it changed its 诪爪讘, that's what you're not allowed to eat. 讗诇讗 诪注转讛, the 讙诪专讗 says, if so, 讞讬讟讬谉 讜讟讞谞谉, if he had wheat and he ground them, 讛讻讗 谞诪讬 讚讗住讜专讬谉? Would you also say it's 讗住讜专, since it's also changed, the shape is different than it was the way it was created originally? 讜讻讬 转讬诪讗, and if you will tell me 讛讻讗 谞诪讬, that this is also true that you are not allowed to buy from 讙讜讬诐 wheat that they ground, 讜讛转谞讬讗, didn't we learn: 讞讬讟讬谉 讜注砖讗谉 拽诇讬讜转, if they had wheat and they turned it into 拽诇讬讜转, or 讛拽讬诪讞讬谉 讜讛住讜诇转, the different kinds of flour 砖诇讛诐, of theirs, 诪讜转专讬谉, is 诪讜转专? So obviously, this is not what we 讚专砖谞'谉 in the comparison of water. 讗诇讗, we 讚专砖谞'谉 like this: 讻诪讬诐, it should be like water. 诪讛 诪讬诐 砖诇讗 谞砖转谞讜 诪讘专讬讬转谉 注诇 讬讚讬 讛讗讜专, just like water was not changed from their original shape through fire, 讗祝 讗讜讻诇 砖诇讗 谞砖转谞讛 诪讘专讬讬转讜 注诇 讬讚讬 讛讗讜专. So too, which food of 讙讜讬诐 could you eat? If it wasn't changed from its original stage through fire. And therefore, only if it was cooked, it's 讗住讜专, because then it was changed through fire, but any other change is 诪讜转专. But the 讙诪专讗 asks, 诪讬讚讬 讗讜专 讻转讬讘? Does the 驻住讜拽 say fire? We learn out from the 驻住讜拽 where we compare food to water, but it doesn't mention a word about fire! So, where do we take this 讚讬谉 that it has to be like water that wasn't changed through fire? Who mentioned fire here? 讗诇讗 therefore the 讙诪专讗 says, 诪讚专讘谞谉. This whole 讚讬谉 that you're not allowed to eat food that was cooked by a 讙讜讬 is 诪讚专讘谞谉, 讜拽专讗 讗住诪讻转讗 讘注诇诪讗. This 驻住讜拽 that we're quoting here is only an 讗住诪讻转讗. A lot of times we find that the 专讘谞谉 made 讚讬谞讬诐, and then they found a 驻住讜拽 that is a hint to their 讚讬谉. That is called an 讗住诪讻转讗. It's only they rely, they're 住讜诪讱 on the 驻住讜拽, but not that this is what the 驻住讜拽 meant. And the same here, too. 讘讗诪转 the 专讘谞谉 made this 讚讬谉. This 驻住讜拽 is only an 讗住诪讻转讗. Now, what was the reason for the 专讘谞谉 to make this 讚讬谉? So, 专砖''讬 says, in order for 讬讬讚谉 to stay away from the 讙讜讬诐. If you're going to be able to eat the cooked food of 讙讜讬诐, a 讬讬讚 is going to be amongst 讙讜讬诐. And this could bring the 讙讜讬 to give the 讬讬讚 non-讻砖专 food to eat. So, therefore, the 讞讻诪讬诐 said, you're 讘讻诇诇 not allowed to eat cooked food of 讙讜讬诐. So, therefore, the 讙讜讬 won't come to give you 讟专驻讛 food. That's the 驻砖讟 that 专砖''讬 says. But 转讜住驻讜转 learns that it's not because of that, but because it's 讞转谞讜转. That the 讞讻诪讬诐 didn't want the 讬讬讚谉 to socialize with the 讙讜讬诐 in order not to intermarry. So, therefore, they said that we can't 讘讻诇诇 eat cooked food of 讙讜讬诐. And 转讜住驻讜转 says that 专砖''讬, in the 诪砖谞讛, himself said this 驻砖讟. And then 转讜住驻讜转 says that 专讘讬谞讜 讗讘专讛诐 讘专讘讬 讚讜讚 says that when did the 讞讻诪讬诐 讗住专 food that was cooked by a 讙讜讬? Only if the 讙讜讬 cooked it in his house. But if the 讙讜讬 cooks in the 讬讬讚's house, then there's nothing to be afraid of. We're not afraid of intermarriage, because it's in the 讬讬讚's house. Only if you are in the 讙讜讬's house, so then you come to socialize with the 讙讜讬诐, we're afraid you'll intermarry. But if it's in the 讬讬讚's house, then there is no 讞砖砖 of 讞转谞讜转. And there's also no 讞砖砖 that he might feed you non-讻砖专 food, because it's in your house. That's the opinion of 专讘讬谞讜 讗讘专讛诐 讘专讘讬 讚讜讚. But the 专讘讬谞讜 转诐 argued against him, and he said that since the 讙讜讬 cooked it, it makes no difference whether it's in the house of the 讬讬讚 or in the house of the 讙讜讬. Because if the 讬讬讚 is not going to be careful if the 讙讜讬 cooks it in his house, he's also not going to be careful if the 讙讜讬 cooks it in the 讙讜讬's house. And that could lead to 讞转谞讜转 or to eat non-讻砖专 food. And therefore, this 讚讬谉 applies no matter where wherever a 讙讜讬 cooks food, a 讬讬讚 is not allowed to eat it. Another thing that 转讜住驻讜转 says, that since the 讙诪专讗 had a 讛讜讛 讗诪讬谞讗 that it's a 讚讬谉 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗 that you're not allowed to eat food that was cooked by a 讙讜讬, and 诇驻讜注诇 the 诪住拽谞讗 is that it's 讚专讘谞谉, but one thing is for sure: that this must have been a 讙讝讬专讛 much before the 讙讝讬专讛 of 驻转. The 讚讬谉 of not eating 讙讜讬讬砖讛 bread, that is one of the 讬''讞 讚讘专, one of the 18 things that the 砖诪讗讬 and 讘讬转 讛诇诇 made during that day. Now, if the 讙讝讬专讛 of not eating cooked food by 讙讜讬诐 is also from that time, how did the 讙诪专讗 have a 讛讜讛 讗诪讬谞讗 that this is a 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗? So, since the 讙诪专讗 has a 讛讜讛 讗诪讬谞讗 this is 讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, obviously this is a 讙讝讬专讛 from much before. So, even though the 诪住拽谞讗 is that it's 讚专讘谞谉, but definitely it was an original 讙讝讬专讛 from years before the 讙讝讬专讛 of 驻转. In other words, many, many years before they made a 讙讝讬专讛 on eating cooked food of 讙讜讬诐, but they didn't make a 讙讝讬专讛 on not eating 讙讜讬讬砖讛 bread. And years later, that day when they 讗住专'讚 the 讬''讞 讚讘专, they 讗住专'讚 also eating bread of 讙讜讬诐. Now the question is, why, when Eating bread of a 讙讜讬 should lead to intermarriage is a further 讞砖砖 than if you eat food cooked by a 讙讜讬. And therefore 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 they only made the 讙讝讬专讛 concerning food, because that is more 讞砖砖 it should lead to 讞转谞讜转, but concerning bread they didn't make the 讙讝讬专讛. Then came 砖诪讗讬 and 讛诇诇, and they made the 讙讝讬专讛 also on bread. They felt that even though bread is not that much 讞砖砖, but still some 讞砖砖 is there, and they made the 讙讝讬专讛 on bread also. And even though in the 诪砖谞讛, 砖诇讜拽- 驻转 is mentioned before 砖诇讜拽讜转, and according to this 砖诇讜拽讜转 was a 讙讝讬专讛 much earlier and 驻转 was a 讙讝讬专讛 later, nevertheless the 诪砖谞讛 讟讗拽注 mentions it in this way, but still 诇驻讜注诇 the 讙讝讬专讛 of food was before the 讙讝讬专讛 of 驻转. And therefore, when later they were 诪转讬专 to eat bread of 讙讜讬诐, if it's from a baker, a 讙讜讬, as the 讙诪专讗 says earlier, they did not allow to eat 讘讬砖讜诇讬- 讟讗拽注 cooked food of 讙讜讬诐, because they're two separate 讙讝讬专讜转. And therefore, when they were 诪转讬专 one, it doesn't mean that they were 诪转讬专 the other also. And in connection to this, where 转讜住驻讜转 says that food and bread are two separate things because this is cooked and this is baked, the 专讘讬谞讜 转诐 says that when you make an 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉, which is that through this you are allowed to cook on 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 for 砖讘转, you also must use two things: bread and cooked food. And he brings a 专讗讬讛 from the 讙诪专讗 in 讘讬爪讛, where it says that 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专 says that you are not allowed to bake on 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 for 砖讘转 unless you have something baked before, and you're not allowed to cook on 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 to 砖讘转 unless you have something cooked before, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 状讗转 讗砖专 转讗驻讜 讗驻讜 讜讗转 讗砖专 转讘砖诇讜 讘砖诇讜状, and that's what the 讘讛状讙 says also. In other words, in order to be able to bake on 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 for 砖讘转, you must make an 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉 with bread which is baked. In order to be able to cook food on 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 for 砖讘转, you must have the 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉 of cooked food. And that's why you must have both. But the 专状讬 says that in 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉 it's enough if you have one of the two: or 驻转 or 转讘砖讬诇, or bread or other food. 讗讬 the 讙诪专讗 says there that 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专 said that you can't bake unless you have a baked food and you can't cook unless you have cooked food, the 讛诇讻讛 is not like 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专, because we know that 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专 砖诪讜转讬 讛讜讗, and we don't 驻住拽谉 like 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专. And also, he goes in the 砖讬讟讛 of 讞谞谞讬讛 according to 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, and 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 讟讗拽注 need 驻转 讜转讘砖讬诇, and also 讞诪讬谉 讟诪讜谞讬谉, hidden hot food, but 讘讬转 讛诇诇 was 诪转讬专. And therefore, since it follows 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, we don't 驻住拽谉 like that. And also in 讬专讜砖诇诪讬 in 讘讬爪讛, 专讘讬 讬讛讜砖注 clearly argues against 专讘讬 讗诇注讝专. And we have a 讻诇诇, 讘砖诇 住讜驻专讬诐 讛诇讱 讗讞专 讛诪讬拽诇, and when it comes to a 讚讬谉 讚专讘谞谉 you could follow the one that's 诪讬拽诇. Since 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉 is a 讚讬谉 讚专讘谞谉, you could follow the opinion of 专讘讬 讬讛讜砖注, who is 诪讬拽诇 and says you don't need to. And also 转讜住驻讜转 says, in our 讙诪专讗, 讞谞谞讬讛 according to 讘讬转 讛诇诇 does not need both, but one. Nevertheless, the 诪谞讛讙 of the people is that when you make an 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉 you do have both: you have bread and you have a 转讘砖讬诇, other food. And the reason is, since the 讛诇讻讜转 讙讚讜诇讜转 and the 专讘讬谞讜 转诐 said like that, so the people accepted it, and when you make an 注讬专讜讘 转讘砖讬诇讬谉 you have both: you have 驻转 and you have 转讘砖讬诇.

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