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KIDDUSHIN (IYUN)

Kiddushin 5b โ€” Iyun

Doubtful Kiddushin: When the Act Itself Is Uncertain

Part of Kiddushin (Iyun)

A Kiddushin sugya on the Gemara's two readings of kiddushei kesef, moving through the Rambam and Ramban's dispute over rabbinic stringency, and how a doubtful act -- like an unintentional knot -- can create doubtful kiddushin.

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Money Kiddushin Basics

ื‘ ืขืžื•ื“ ื‘, ืชื ื• ืจื‘ื ืŸ: ื›ื™ืฆื“ ื‘ื›ืกืฃ? How do you do Kiddushin with ื›ืกืฃ? ื ืชืŸ ืœื” ื›ืกืฃ ืื• ืฉื•ื” ื›ืกืฃ ื•ืืžืจ ืœื”: ืดื”ืจื™ ืืช ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœื™ืด. If he gives the woman ื›ืกืฃ or ืฉื•ื” ื›ืกืฃ and he says to her, he gives her ื›ืกืฃ and says: ืดื”ืจื™ ืืช ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœื™ืด, or other expressions that the braisa brings which are good, ื”ืจื™ ื–ื• ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช. She's mekudeshet. That's the way it's done. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืฉื ืชื ื” ืœื• ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, but let's say she gave him money and she said: ืดื”ืจื™ื ื™ ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœืšืด, I'm mekudeshet to you, etc. etc., ืื™ื ื” ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, it's nothing. That's the braisa. ืžืชืงื™ืฃ ืœื” ืจื‘ ืคืคื, and Rav Pappa asked a question. He says look at the reisha, look at the beginning of the braisa. The beginning of the braisa said when is it good? If he gives and he says. ื˜ืขืžื ื“ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจ ื”ื•ื, only if he gives and he says, that's when it's good. ื”ื ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, what happens if he would give and she would say? ืื™ื ื” ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, that's what comes out because it says, wait, how is it good? He gives and he says. It's mashma any other way, it's no good. So if he would give and she would say, it's no good. Okay. ืื™ืžื ืกื™ืคื, look at the second half. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ืฉื ืชื ื” ืœื• ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, the second half says that if she gave and she said, ืื™ื ื” ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, ืœื ื”ื•ื• ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, it's nothing. It's mashma when is it no good? ื ืชื ื” ื”ื™ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, she said, gave and said. ื”ื ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, but let's say he gave and she said, and the second part is ืžืฉืžืข ื”ื•ื• ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช? So it's a contradiction. So the

Gamara's Two Interpretations

Gemara says, no, wait. And then the Gemara says: ื”ื›ื™ ืงืืžืจ. You have to read the braisa like this: ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจ ื”ื•ื, if he gave and he said, ืคืฉื™ื˜ื ื“ื”ื•ื• ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, for sure it's kiddushin. ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, if he gave and she said, ื ืขืฉื” ื›ืžื™ ืฉื ืชื ื” ื”ื™ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื ื•ืœื ื”ื•ื• ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. Then that is as good as if she would have given and she would have said, and it's no good. So when the seifa says if she gives and she says, it's not like a new din, that's like a continuation to the reisha. Only if he gave and he said is good. But if he would give, but she would say, it's no good, as if she would have given and she would have said. That's one pshat. Iba'is eima, another pshat: that ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจ ื”ื•ื ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, if he gives and he says, she's mekudeshet. ื ืชื ื” ื”ื™ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื ืื™ื ื” ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, if she gives and she says, no good. ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, if he... He says it's safek. It's a safek. And ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, and ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ we're afraid. That means ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ you have to accept this as kiddushin, and therefore she could never marry anybody else unless she gets a get from this guy. So it's a machloket here in the Gemara. The

Skepticism and Rabbinic Caution

first ืœืฉื•ืŸ in the Gemara says that if he gives and she says, it's as if she gave and she said, it's no good. And ืื™ื‘ืขื™ืช ืื™ืžื, another ืœืฉื•ืŸ says, no, that if he gave and she said, it is a safek, it's safek. If it's a safek, ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ, we are ื—ื•ืฉืฉ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. So, obviously, we have to understand what is the machloket between the two sides. What is the safek here? Both of the Both the questionable parts is where he gave. Yeah. He gave and she said. She said. The other one where where she gives and he says Nobody's talking about that. That's another trace. That's not what we're talking about. I mean, how can you know the situation? It seems from here that those are the extremes and we know for sure. No, but he's asking what about the other case? What if she gave and he said? Oh, she gives and he said. Yeah. You can't tell which Okay, listen, but there is other ื“ื™ื ื™ื about a ืื“ื ื—ืฉื•ื‘, let's let's see. So what is the safek here? According to the second ืœืฉื•ืŸ that it's a safek, what is the safek? So, Rashi, it seems the safek is like this: if ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื, he gives, Rashi says these words: ื“ืžื™ ืœื›ื™ ื™ืงื— ืื™ืฉ ืืฉื”. This is like the pasuk says: ืดื›ื™ ื™ืงื— ืื™ืฉ ืืฉื”ืด, when a man takes a woman. But ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, when she says: ื“ืžื™ ืœื™ืงื— ื”ื™ื ืฉืœ ืื™ืฉ. She's doing something, it's as if she is taking the man. She's doing it. So it seems like this is the safek. The safek is, since he gave, so that's ืดื™ืงื—ืด. She said, it looks like ืดืชืงื—ืด. The question is, is it good or is it not good? And that's why we have a safek. So we have a machloket here with the safek. So, number one, let's understand what this machloket is. Number two, if the ื‘ืจื™ื™ืชื wants to tell us, according to the first lashon, that if he gave and she said it's no good, why did it have to say, if he gave and she said, it's like as if she would have given? It should say: it's no good, finished, and why say that? Yeah. Also, this lashon in Rashi These are all questions on Rashi so far? No, this is for the question on the Gemara, too. You think Rashi is asking this? No, no, no, not at all. I'm asking the question. Why does it say this? In Rashi We said that Rashi said ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื is ื›ื™ ื™ืงื—. ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, she is ื›ื™ ืชืงื—, and that's a problem. So by ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, Rashi says ื“ืžื™, this looks like ื›ื™ ืชืงื— ืื™ืฉ ืืฉื”, ืืฉื” ืœืื™ืฉ. Looks like she's doing her side. Why does Rashi say it looks like it? 'Cause we're not sure. There's a safek here. But on the first part where it says ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื, Rashi also uses the ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื“ืžื™ ืœื›ื™ ื™ืงื— ืื™ืฉ ืื™ืฉ ืœื›ื™ ื™ืงื— ืื™ืฉ. It looks it's like ื™ืงื— ืื™ืฉ, it's not like. It is! So by ื™ืง- by ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื, Rashi should have said ื”ืจื™ ื–ื” ื›ื™ ื™ืงื— ืื™ืฉ. And over there, he could have said ื“ืžื™. But why does Rashi say by ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื also ื“ืžื™, it looks like? Now you have another thing, the Ran here.

R' N's Inquiry on Rabbinic Stringency

The Ran comes here and asks a she'eilah: The Gemara, where it says ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื, it's a safek, it means it's a safek whether this kiddushin is good kiddushin or not. Since she said he takeh gave, but she said. My question is that spoiled the kiddushin or not? So, he asks a kashya, this is a safek whether mid'oraisa the kiddushin is good. So, this is a ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. Why does the Gemara say ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? The Gemara says ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื ื•ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. It's a safek, and we're ื—ื•ืฉืฉ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Why why ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? Should have said ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื ื•ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ. Since it's a ืกืคืง, every ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื you have to be What is the klal? ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืœื—ื•ืžืจื. If you have a ืกืคืง on a ื“ื™ืŸ ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, you go ืœื—ื•ืžืจื. ืกืคืง ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ ืœืงื•ืœื, ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืœื—ื•ืžืจื. So, why why does the Gemara say ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? So, he says, I'll tell you why. Maybe. Maybe because here, ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, even though it's a ืกืคืง, she should not be ืžืงื•ื“ืฉ. Because there is a ื—ื–ืงื” here. And don't we always follow ื—ื–ืงื”? He doesn't even say what the ื—ื–ืงื” is, but the peshat is, he means she is ื‘ื—ื–ืงืช ืคื ื•ื™ื”. She is be'emet not married. Now there's a ืกืคืง, did that status change? She got some money, did it become ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ or not? So, the klal is, a lot of times when we have a ื—ื–ืงื”, when we have a ืกืคืง, we go after the ื—ื–ืงื”. A lot of times we have a ื—ื–ืงื”. We talk about where there's a ืกืคืง whether she's married or not, we always say therefore Well, it depends. Well, he's going to ask this kashya. But here he's asking a He's saying, we could have given the ื—ื–ืงื”, and therefore ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื the ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ should not be ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. That's what he means. ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื, it's takeh a ืกืคืง. But ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, even though it's a ืกืคืง, she shouldn't be ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, and ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, the ืจื‘ื ืŸ said we should be ื—ื•ืฉืฉ. But then he asks a she'eilah: Why is this different than other ืกืคื™ืงื•ืช where we don't follow the ื—ื–ืงื”? He gives examples. See the Ran, second line on the Rif. He says, I'll bring you

Dog Rescue Case and Its Implications

an example from the Rif. Later on the Gemara, it says a sh'eilah: What happens if a dog is chasing her, and the and the guy says, \"I'll help you, I'll save you from the dog. I want you to be ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช to me with the hana'ah that I'm giving you of saving you from the dog.\" So, the Gemara has a sh'eilah: Is she ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช or not? Because on one hand, he gave her hana'ah. On the other hand, what do you mean he gave her hana'ah? He had a mitzvah to save her. Every Yid has to save another Yid. So, he's not giving her hana'ah. So, the Gemara doesn't know. Teiku, no answer. So, the Rif comes and says, no answer, so it's a ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. If a guy if this happened, it's a safek, and she's ืกืคืง ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. So, we see from here we don't follow the chazakah. So, the Ran himself asks, \"Okay, I was thinking to say,\" he says, \"maybe here the reason why even though it's a safek, we say ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, because mid'oraita we follow the chazakah, but we see by that case, we don't follow the chazakah.\" Comes the Avnei Miluim. The Avnei Miluim wants to make a chiluk. He wants to say there's a chiluk when we follow, not by every safek we'll follow the chazakah. It depends whether it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช or a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ. If it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช If it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ, then what will the chazakah help? If it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช, let me explain what it means. That's where the chazakah comes in. If it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ, and we don't know what the halachah is, the fact that she has a chazakah, what's that going to do? She has a chazakah, and that will change the din? We don't know what the din is! If it's a safek a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช, we don't know what happened here, so we say because that she's ื‘ื—ื–ืงืช ืคื ื•ื™ื”, so we assume probably what happened was that she didn't get kiddushin. So, that's what he's mechalek. He says in the case where the case that the dog was running after her, that's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ. And if there's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ, that's why the din is that even though there's a chazakah, we don't follow the chazakah. Here it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช. Why is here a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช? So obviously he learns, what is the safek here? Not like we learned before in Rashi. He obviously learned the safek is a different thing. We learned in Rashi that it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ. We learned that the she'eilah here, since the pasuk said ื›ื™ ื™ืงื— and not ื›ื™ ืชืงื—, and since she's saying, is that a problem with ื›ื™ ื™ืงื—? That's what we asked. Since the din is that he has to do it, so he gave, he did it, but he didn't say. So we have a she'eilah, how bad is that? A ืฉืืœื” ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช? A ืฉืืœื” ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ! Obviously he learns that it's a ืฉืืœื” ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช, that the safek here is a different safek. The safek is that other learn that when he gave, how do you know he meant ืœืฉื ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ? ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, when you give and you don't say, you give a woman money, how do you know he meant ืœืฉื ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ? So, you still have to have kiddushin. Here he didn't say, she said. The she'eilah is if when she said it, is that enough to prove his kavanah? That's a ืฉืืœื” ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช. That's how you learn with the safek. That's why it's a safek whether kiddushin or not. So, if you learn like that, his teiretz is a good teiretz. And over here, it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ืžืฆื™ืื•ืช, that's why here we say mid'oraita is no problem, and ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Over there, by the case of, it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ. But ืœืคื™ ืžื” as we learned before from Rashi, and there is many, and the Ran himself seems to be learning ื“ืฃ ื– that this is a safek not because of the kavanah, it's a ืกืคืง ืคืฉื•ื˜ whether the problem of the pasuk. Since the pasuk says ื›ื™ ื™ืงื—, is this a problem or not? So if it's a ืกืคืง ื‘ื“ื™ืŸ, then they're both the same, we're back to the question. Question on the Ran. So now the question, yes, so obviously, no, the Ran's kashya, the Ran himself asks the question. Oh, he's doing the Ran. He has the question himself. He says, what's the difference between these two cases? So the Ran when he tries to answer his kashya, but it's, his teretz is not a teretz. So what what does she say? I'm just ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœื•. She says, with this and I'm accepting? Yeah. He gives her money and she says, ื”ืจื™ ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœื• ื‘ื–ื”, ื”ืชืงื‘ืœ ื–ื• ืฉ ื”ืชืงื‘ืœ ื–ื•, give something like that. She's still The men's ring, huh? I married you. I married you with a. Yeah. So now we have to understand that. So we have these three she'eilot: what is the machloket, why is it ื ืขืฉื”, why did Rashi say ื“ืžื™, and now the kashya of the Ran. No, obviously he learned the peshat. And he does He learned that the safek is not the pasuk, the safek is kavanah, which is a she'eilah of He has the he he make that with the Ran The Ran on ื“ืฃ ื–, it's a good kashya, yeah, that's a good she'eilah. The Ran here doesn't say, the Ran on ื“ืฃ ื– seems to be saying it. It could be he learned that No, no. You've got to be careful if you hand something to the wrong girl, she could just say, with this I'm No, but ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, yeah. Unless you say right away, no. If you say no, why not? But if you don't say anything, Is that why they don't give the other rings for engagement? No, that's by the kalah, yeah. But what is he saying? Any woman, not only... if she tells you you give her something and she says ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœื•, according to the second lashon, it's safek. ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Now she needs a get from you. But say, but if he answers no, no, what you're saying is bichlal, yeah, your own kallah you shouldn't give. Anyway, this then there's another shaila here the Ran asks. He has ืฉืืœื•ืช like this: no, not a shaila. We just said the shaila was, why is ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ since it's a ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื? So the Ran comes and says like this: you know, according to the Rambam, the Rambam is fine. Because you look at the Rambam and he brings this din, the Rambam says like this: If ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, he gives and she says, ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื•ื. It's a safek. And therefore, pashut, she needs a get. The Rambam did not mention miderabbanan. So he says, the Rambam is fine. He has the kashya, why say miderabbanan, it's a ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื? As the Rambam, it's fine, the Rambam takeh doesn't say miderabbanan. Comes the Pnei Yehoshua... Doesn't say miderabbanan. He doesn't Who, you said doesn't mention it? The the Ran himself. When he asks the kashya, how come the Gemara said miderabbanan, so he says, you see the Rambam was smart. The Rambam when he writes it, he didn't write the word miderabbanan. Comes the Pnei Yehoshua and says to the Ran, the Rambam, according to the Rambam himself, the word miderabbanan happens to fit. Why? What was the problem here? It's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. It's a ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. We have a famous machloket, a very famous machloket, when we say ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืœื—ื•ืžืจื. Every ืกืคืง ืœื—ื•ืžืจื, is it ืœื—ื•ืžืจื ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื or ืœื—ื•ืžืจื ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? The din, whenever there is a safek by a ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, you have to go ืœื—ื•ืžืจื. Who said that you have to go ืœื—ื•ืžืจื? Is it from the Torah that you have to go ืœื—ื•ืžืจื? We learned it many times, and it comes up, it's a very famous thing, or ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? The Rashba says, every ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื you go ืœื—ื•ืžืจื ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. The Rashba. The Rambam

Rambam vs Ramban on Halachic Stringency

says, ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืœื—ื•ืžืจื ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. So he says, according to the Rambam, this is very good. Funkt farkert, it should say ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ! Since it's safek, it's a ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, so ื—ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ! Why doesn't the Rambam write it? No problem! Oh, in every case, like in every case where there's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, it's ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. So he so the so he comes, so the Ran happens to say that according to the Rambam we understand why the Rambam should doesn't write ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, because if we say it's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, so comes the Penei Yehoshua, funkt farkert, that according to the Rambam the word should say ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ! Well, can't both pieces fit? Well, yeah, the Rambam holds like that, that we know. The question of the Ran and of the Penei Yehoshua's peshat is the opposite now: so why does the Gemara here say ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? Since according to the Rambam, the Rambam holds that every ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื is ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ ืœื—ื•ืžืจื, every time the Gemara says by a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื that you have to be machmir, does the Gemara add ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? No! Because according to this shita, it's a ื›ืœืœ of the ื”ืœื›ื”, every time that a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“... ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. So just like the Rambam himself did not say it, why would the Gemara have to say it? Why? Because it's somehow a special case? Why why somehow a special case? You got to find out this is a special case. Why is this different? Why is it only a special case? That can be a general question on the Rambam always. If the Rambam holds That's the only case where it happens. This is the only case in the whole Gemara where it says ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? Uh, yeah. In fact, there's many hundreds of cases that it doesn't say. It doesn't say. No, so Here it does. Here it says, the question is why. It fits to the din it's ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, but why would the Gemara pick here to tell us ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ when this is a ื›ืœืœ ื‘ื›ืœ ื”ืชื•ืจื” ื›ื•ืœื” according to the Rambam, that ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? Then, well, then that's a general question on the Rambam. You have to answer why No, why the Why the Gemara said it? Yeah. According to the Pnei Yehoshua pshat, Pnei Yehoshua says what does the Gemara mean here, that it's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื? And because it's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, we're ืžื—ืžื™ืจ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. According to that that this is what the Gemara means, according to the Rambam, then according to this it's a kashya. Why why mention it? Just say safek and ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ, and we know it's ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, because according to the Rambam every ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื is ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. This ื›ืœืœ of ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ I mean ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ ืœื—ื•ืžืจื Yeah. This is something that the Gemara learns out? No, if it's if it's saying in the Gemara, we have a problem. How could there be a ืžื—ืœื•ืงืช between the Rambam and the Rashba? Right. Gemara doesn't say it. The Rishonim tried to learn out from cases of the Gemara. They don't make up the ื“ื™ื ื™ื. They have to learn from the Gemara. If the Gemara would say it clear, it wouldn't be a problem. The Gemara doesn't say it clear. And that's where the machloket comes. What is the peshat in all the Gemaras in ื’ืื ืฅ ืฉืดืก? So the Rambam learns that we see from okay all kind of cases that it is derabbanan. Midrabbanan lechumra, and the Rashba says de'oraita. Remember, I once mentioned one case that they both learn out from the same din. Each one learns out his sevara from the same din. From mamzer. The din by mamzer is, it says, ืžืžื–ืจ ืœื ื™ื‘ื ื‘ืงื”ืœ ื”ืณ. A mamzer can't marry. And the Gemara darsh's: ืžืžื–ืจ ื•ื“ืื™ ืœื ื™ื‘ื, it's a special ื“ืจืฉ, ืกืคืง ืžืžื–ืจ ื™ื‘ื. A safek mamzer does. Could marry. Mid'oraita, midrabbanan not, but safek mamzer could marry. So the Rambam, so what do we see from here? The Torah tells us that that it's a safek, you're allowed. So the Rashba did opposite. The fact that the Torah has to tell you that in this case it's mutar is a ืจืื™ื” ื›ืœ ื”ืชื•ืจื” ื›ื•ืœื” it's asur. The Rambam brings it back to him, though. Yeah, so anyway, goes back and forth. But But my she'eilah is, why would the Gemara here have to say midrabbanan to teach us this din when it's klal in the whole Torah, like you Then you have other kushyot the Pnei Yehoshua asks. This next case here, ืืžืจ ืฉืžื•ืืœ Shmuel says a din: ื ืชืŸ ืœื” he gives her ื›ืกืฃ ื•ืฉื•ื•ื” ื›ืกืฃ. Yeah? And he says to her, \"ื”ืจื™ ืืช ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช.\" Oh, he shouldn't mekadesh her. If he says, \"ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ืื™ืฉืš, ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ื‘ืขืœื™ืš, ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ืืจื•ืกืš,\" ืื™ืŸ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื™ืช ืžื™ื—ื•ืฉ. He

Shmuel's View on Husband Language

says a different lashon, which is not the right lashon, there's nothing. But What to do? Okay. Whatever. ืื™ืŸ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื™ืช ืžื™ื—ื•ืฉ. Wouldn't they need another? No. Doesn't have to be a pirud. So he asks a kashya, why is it so pashut? Doesn't have to be a pirud? No, no, there's nothing. This not Don't even look at what he says, ืื™ืŸ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ื™ืช ืžื™ื—ื•ืฉ. If he gives, and then he says, \"I'm your husband.\" But according to what's said before, if he doesn't say anything, and she says, is also a safek. How come here there's no safek? Just according to what we said before, we're talking about the safek is supposed to be a pasul. What are you talking about? Who says? So why? What's the What would be the safek here? What's the problem here? He says to her, \"I'm your husband.\" What she says. What's different? Before she says, \"ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ื”ืจื™ ืืช ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ื”ืจื™ ืื ื™ ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืœืš.\" Yeah. And here it says he says to her, \"ื”ืจื™ื ื™ ืื™ืฉืš. I'm your husband.\" What's the problem with being your husband? Why can't he say Why does he have to say, \"You're mekudeshet to me\"? What's wrong with saying, \"I'm your husband\"? Because the pasuk, cuz it has to be yikach. But he did, he gave, ela mai the yikach, the saying was not so fit to the yikach. Well, when she says it's also not fit to the yikach. And nevertheless, we say it's only it's a safek. It's not One lashon says vadai not good, but a second lashon a safek. How come here we don't find that? Good. They have more kashyos, but I want just to get to the point, is like this. We We

Gittin Analogy and Kiddushin Doubt

spoke many times, we gave get and then we'll apply the same thing to kiddushin. If you send When you give a get, you have to have a keritut. It has to be cut off. If there's a safek, when you give a get, and there's a safek keritut, safek whether it cuts off, so it's not a get at all. Not that pashat it's a safek keritut, cuz there's no such thing as a safek keritut. Cuz the moment it's not a hundred percent cut off, then that half percent that's not cut off is a connection, so it's not cut off at all. Cutting off means cut off completely. Right, right. So here, if it's a safek keritut, there's no And as I mentioned, there are many cases where we find there's no such thing as safek. Like sefirah, the vort the Rebbe brings a sevara that there is no such thing as counting sefirah with safek. Because the whole idea of counting is vadai. The moment you count and you still don't know, maybe, so you didn't count, so it's not and we find other cases where there's no such thing as safek. The same thing by ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช. But I say the same thing by kiddushin. Kiddushin is the opposite of a get. Kiddushin is when there's a connection. If there's a safek if the connection is a real connection, then it's not a connection. Then it's it's nothing. It's not the same like by ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช. Because by

The Severity of ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช Compared to ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ

ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช, it's worse. By ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช, ื›ื•ืœื” the problem. You give a get. The whole It's a peleh! You want to cut off between you and that person, you're giving something! But you shouldn't give. Giving is a contradiction. Ela mai? You're giving a get. So as long as the get is clear ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช, it's fine. If it's not clear ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช, then you got a problem. You're giving and you're not sure it's cutting, so obviously you're giving. By kiddushin, giving is no problem. Adraba, you're giving because you're trying to connect. But nevertheless, if the kesher, if the connection that you're making is not an 100% connection, so as long so if the connection itself, the ืคืขื•ืœื” of the thing that you did is a safek whether it is kiddushin or not, not if the ืคืขื•ืœื” is for sure, but we don't know what you meant. We do find cases where there's a safek in your ื›ื•ื•ื ื”, the halacha is that it's a safek kiddushin. We find that. But there the ืคืขื•ืœื” you did was a ืคืขื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. But if you the ืคืขื•ืœื” you do is a safek whether it's a ืคืขื•ืœื” ืฉืœ ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, then it's not kiddushin at all. And it's not, even though we're not sure it's not, but the moment we don't sure we're not sure it's not a ืคืขื•ืœื”. I'll give you an example from a different din altogether, a different sugya, but it'll just shed some light. We don't need example, it's pretty clear. Yeah, yeah, but I want to No, no, I want to Why shouldn't it? Cuz maybe like anything, when there's a safek din, it's a safek. Clear is clear, yeah, but by kiddushin the Yeah, because there you're cutting off and you didn't cut, like you have strings attached. But kiddushin maybe there's a shtikel attachment. Kiddushin you could think, if there's I'm trying to say that if Right, but it's not. Yeah, but it has to be the why? Maybe not, maybe if I do a tenai, but if I do a safek, so it's a safek kiddushin. See, cutting off you can say as long as there's a string attached, you're not cut off. It's a connection. So I'm connected partially. Why can't there be a connection that's a safek connection? So why must it be not? So I'll just bring an a dugma from a different thing. In

Knot-Tying Example and the Nature of ืžืœืื›ื”

Likutei Sichot ื—ืœืง ื™\\"ื“, the Rebbe talks about a different ืขื ื™ืŸ, but we'll see the connection. He talks about the melacha on Shabbos of ืงืฉื™ืจื”. Of tying. Which is going to see right away a dugma here with tying. And he says that like this: The din is that when are you chayav, when is the ืžืœืื›ื” ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, if it's a ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื. You tie it with the intentions to leave it forever. If I tie a knot, even a real knot, with the intentions of taking it apart tomorrow, mideoraita that's not a melacha. Okay. Nevertheless, midrabbanan you're not allowed to do it. Then the Gemara says at the end of Shabbos, that if you want to make a knot ืœืฆื•ืจืš ืžืฆื•ื”, for a mitzvah, and it's not a ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื, you're allowed to do it ื“ื™ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ ืืคื™ืœื•. Comes the she'eilah on this, mideoraita we said the issur is to make a ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื that's gonna stay. Why wouldn't making a ืงืฉืจ that's not ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื be ืืกื•ืจ ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื on ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ? You're not allowed to eat mideoraita ื—ื–ื™ืจ a ื›ื–ื™ืช. That's that's the din. Half a ื›ื–ื™ืช is ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ. The din is, ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ you're not chayav, but it's ืืกื•ืจ ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. ืžื—ืœื•ืงืช ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ื•ืจื™ืฉ ืœืงื™ืฉ, ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ ืืกื•ืจ ืžืŸ ื”ืชื•ืจื”. ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื•ื—ื ืŸ ืกื‘ืจ ืืกื•ืจ ืžืŸ ื”ืชื•ืจื”, we pas ken it's ืืกื•ืจ ืžืŸ ื”ืชื•ืจื”. Why shouldn't be a ื—ืฆื™ is a ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ? Because it's not called a ืงืฉืจ. Okay. So the answer is, right, it's not ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ, it's ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื”. It's not a half. ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ means you have the whole ืื™ื›ื•ืช, the whole quality of what what the issur is, you're just missing the quantity, the amount. But here it's a different type of melachah. He gives another example: the the, oh, the

Halfโ€‘Measure: ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ vs ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื”

famous example of ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ versus ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื” versus ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ is by carrying. ื”ื•ืฆืื”, carrying on Shabbos, you have to make an ืขืงื™ืจื” and a ื”ื ื—ื”. You have to pick it up in one ืจืฉื•ืช, carry it out of the ืจืฉื•ืช, and put it down, or ื“' ืืžื•ืช. What happens if you make an ืขืงื™ืจื” without a ื”ื ื—ื”? Me'oraisa it's not asur. But miderabbanan it's asur. That's the first Mishnah in Shabbos. All the conditions cases of when you have the poor man standing outside, and the, and he puts it in. So all the cases if the person, one person makes the ืขืงื™ืจื” and ื”ื ื—ื”, he's chayav. If he makes only an ืขืงื™ืจื”, just picks it up and doesn't put it down, someone else let's say takes it from his hand, it's asur miderabbanan. So the same ืฉืืœื” we have over there: why is it asur miderabbanan, why is it not ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ? Me'oraisa the ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ is an ืขืงื™ืจื” and a ื”ื ื—ื”, so miderabbanan it should be ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ. The answer is like you said: ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ would mean, let's say, you have to carry four ืืžื•ืช, you carry two ืืžื•ืช. But this is a half of the melachah is made up of two parts: of picking up and putting down. You did half of the melachah, so it's ื—ืฆื™ ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ. So, ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื”, fine. So we see the mefarshim that this is asur of This is not a ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ, it's ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื”. But they're both asur miderabbanan. How come by the case of the ืงืฉื™ืจื”, ืœืฆื•ืจืš ืžืฆื•ื”, it's mutar miderabbanan, and by the ืขืงื™ืจื” without the ื”ื ื—ื”, or ื”ื ื—ื” without the ืขืงื™ืจื”, ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ it's even by a mitzvah it's ืืกื•ืจ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? As a matter of fact, some of the ืžืคืจืฉื™ื explain, why did the Mishnah pick a case, right, to explain ืขืงื™ืจื” and ื”ื ื—ื” with an ืขื ื™ and an ืขืฉื™ืจ, a poor man, to tell you that even if you intend to give tzedakah, you're doing a mitzvah, it's still ืืกื•ืจ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Why? So, obviously, even though they're both not ื—ืฆื™ ืฉื™ืขื•ืจ, in them itself there is a difference between the two, that the ืื™ืกื•ืจ of the ืขืงื™ืจื” and ื”ื ื—ื” is worse than the ืื™ืกื•ืจ of the the ืงืฉืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื. ืขืงื™ืจื” and ื”ื ื—ื”, you just need another part. Right. By the ืงืฉืจ? Yeah, you needed ื“ืขืช by ืงืฉืจ, maybe even less. No, it's the whole the whole thing is ื“ืขืช. The answer is that ืงืฉืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื is not ืคืฉื˜ it's ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื”, it's not even ื—ืฆื™ ืžืœืื›ื”. It's not even half. It's not a ืžืœืื›ื” at all. Now the ืจื‘ื™ explains there that if you make a knot and you don't intend to have the knot stay forever, it's not a knot, it's not tied. Not the ืคืฉื˜ you tied less. See, an ืขืงื™ืจื” without an ื”ื ื—ื”, you did part of the ืžืœืื›ื”. You didn't do the whole ืžืœืื›ื”, you did part of it. The ืžืœืื›ื” is made up of three parts: pick it up, take it out of the ืจืฉื•ืช, put it down. You only did one part, two parts. But you did part of the ืžืœืื›ื”. Here, you didn't even do part of the ืžืœืื›ื”. The ื›ื•ื•ื ื” to keep it, that makes a ืงืฉืจ. Look, if you don't have the ื›ื•ื•ื ื” to keep it forever, it's like taking two pieces of string and putting it like this, touching it together. That's nothing. That's not a ืงืฉืจ. The concept of a ืงืฉืจ is if it's going to stay. If it's not a hundred percent ืงืฉืจ, it's not the pshat so you have fifty percent of the melachah, it's not a melachah at all. But in that case, why did the ืจื‘ื ืŸ come and make it ืืกื•ืจ ื‘ื›ืœืœ? We said that mid'rabbanan it's assur. So the Rebbe explains that when the ืจื‘ื ืŸ made issurim, so sometimes we find they made an issur as a gezeirah. We don't allow you this because if you would, it could bring you to a issur de'oraita. Sometimes we find the ืจื‘ื ืŸ by Shabbos made a din because it's ื“ื•ืžื” ืœืžืœืื›ื”. Ha, that's business. It's ื“ื•ืžื”, it looks like it. See, people don't know the difference. Someone sees you making a knot, doesn't know what's in your mind, so it looks like it, that's all. But it's not because it's a gezeirah something. So since it's only ื“ื•ืžื”, so the ืจื‘ื ืŸ takeh ืืกืจ'ื“ it, but ืœืฆื•ืจืš ืžืฆื•ื”, since it's really not part of the melachah at all, so they allowed it. ืžื” ืฉืื™ืŸ ื›ืŸ ืขืงื™ืจื” without an ื”ื ื—ื”, it's takeh only a half of the melachah, but it's part of the melachah, and it might bring you to a melachah, so the ื—ื›ืžื™ื ืืกืจ'ื“ it in all cases. But what am I trying to bring out from here? Trying to use this as an example, that when it comes to tie a knot, which is kiddushin, not ื‘ื’ืฉืžื™ื•ืช, if it's not a hundred percent, if there is a safek there, then it's nothing. It's not even part of the melachah. It's not even like, okay, ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. There's no such thing in such a case that there's such a such a, what do you call it? Da'at, not da'at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there is no case of ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. But this is only said if the safek is in the ืคืขื•ืœื” that I did: is it kiddushin or not? And as a ืคืขื•ืœื” that's a safek if it's kiddushin or not, it's not a complete kiddushin. But what happens if I have a ืคืขื•ืœื”, that the ืคืขื•ืœื” is good a hundred percent, and just there's a safek, we don't know what he had in his mind? Then that ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ would be. Because it depends what the safek is. If the safek is in the Kiddushin itself, that's one thing. If the safek is in not in the Kiddushin, but the safek is we just don't know what he had in mind. Almost if he had in mind that this is Kiddushin, it's Kiddushin. If he didn't, then it's not. But maybe he did, so it's a ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. But You mean in this scene it could never bleed into what he has in mind? Right, right. I'm saying, but what would be in a case where we would not know? I'm saying, if you have a case where the safek is whether this is really meant for Kiddushin, but not because the ืคืขื•ืœื” you did is a safek whether this ืคืขื•ืœื” is a ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ื 'ื“ื™ืงืข ืคืขื•ืœื”. You have it in your mind. So then, see, by ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช it probably wouldn't be either, but by Kiddushin it would be different, because it's a different type of safek. And I want to give an example of another other inyan also, where we find a chiluk where the safek is. You know what, I think that would be an example and make it clearer. There is still there's time. We

Intentional vs Unintentional Violations: ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ vs ืกืคืง ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื

have a din of ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ on Shabbos. It's again a ื“ื™ืŸ ืฉื‘ืช. If you do a melachah, but you didn't have intent to do it, you knew it could happen, like for example, the famous example, you schlep a chair, there is a dirt floor, a floor, and it might It might make a ื—ืจื™ืฅ, it might not, it might make a furrow, it might, okay, whatever. But you're not interested in it, so you're allowed to shlep it, and if it'll make it, it'll make, we don't care, because that's not what you were mechaven to do. If it's a big chair that when you shlep it, it'll have to make a ื—ืจื™ืฅ, even though that's not your intention, you want the chair to come from there to here, but since there's a pesik reisha, we call it, so then you're chayav, it's asur, pesik reisha. But if it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ, it's mutar. Then we have another din. A din which falls in the category of safek pesik reisha. Lemashal, example the ื˜ืดื– gives: if you have a drawer and you don't know, there might be flies there, inside, yeah. You're going to close the door, the drawer, and if there are flies there, it'll be ืฆื™ื“ื”. It'll be captured, it's one of the ืœืดื˜ ืžืœืื›ื•ืช. But you don't know if they're there or not. Now, you're not intending to catch flies. You want the door out of your way, the drawer, whatever. Are you allowed to close it or not? Well, you're not mechaven, and you're not sure it's going to happen. So he says that's asur. You know why? Pesik reisha, if the flies are there for sure, it would be asur even though you don't intend. So this is a safek pesik reisha. Now what's the difference between a safek pesik reisha and eino mitkaven? No, why? What is the case difference? What is the difference between the ื—ืจื™ืฅ when you ืฉืœืขืค and it might make, you don't know if it'll make or not, and that's mutar because it's an eino mitkaven? Here also: you're not mechaven, and you're not sure it's going to happen. So it says, because there, either way, if if it is going to happen, it'll if it is there, it'll definitely Oh! The safek is not on the ืคืขื•ืœื”! See, the case that we're giving here, the safek is will my ืคืขื•ืœื” cause it or not? Here, my ืคืขื•ืœื” will definitely cause it, the safek is on something else: are the flies there or not? Like Alter Rebbe brings a din, you're not allowed to open a door when there's a candle not far from the door, you're not allowed to open the door because there might be a wind outside and by you opening you will cause it to go out. And he says even if you're not sure if there's a strong wind outside, because and you're not intending, you want to go out, because it's a safek pesik reisha. If the wind is there, it'll definitely burn it, blow it out. But that's eino mitkaven? No. Eino mitkaven means that there's like you're not, what's the safek, ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ means it's a safek, we don't know if it'll happen, but the safek is on the ืคืขื•ืœื”! That's eino mitkaven. But if the ืคืขื•ืœื” definitely could do it, the safek if the flies are there, or the safek if there's a wind outside, but if there is a wind it'll certainly do it, that's called a safek pesik reisha. I want to say the same thing here also. If there's a safek in the ืคืขื•ืœื” of ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, that safek is like as if it doesn't there's no ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. Like over there, the safek it might make the ื—ืจื™ืฅ, it's mutar, we don't consider the ื—ืจื™ืฅ at all, as if it didn't there's no ื“ื™ืŸ ืื™ืกื•ืจ. If there's a vadai it'll make, but we just don't know if if if if if the thing is there, that's the difference. The same thing here. So I want to say like this:

Skeptical ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ: When Action Itself Is Uncertain

therefore, coming back to the point that if you give a ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ and it's a safek if if the ืคืขื•ืœื” is a ืคืขื•ืœื” of ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ or not, such a safek is not ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. That's exactly what's happening in our case here. In our case here, there's a safek whether what she says, when you give and she says, is it ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ or not? Because kiddushin has to be from you, and there's a safek if this is, and you and you have to give and you have to say. The she'eilah is is saying hers kiddushin or not? So it's not a safek if you give we don't know what the situation is. Like could be a case of safek, a guy does something and we don't know what he had in mind. That's a safek. What he did is definitely kiddushin, the she'eilah, did he mean it or not? But here there's a she'eilah in the ืขืฆื ืคืขื•ืœื”: is this called giving kiddushin or not? So even though it's a safek, what should be the maskana? Definitely not! That's exactly what's happening here. It's a safek. I want to say that the first lashon in the Gemara and the second don't really argue b'etzem. See, normally you learn in the Gemara, the first lashon says if he gave and she said, it's not a safek, vadai no kiddushin. ืื™ื‘ืขื™ืช ืื™ืžื, the second lashon says, no, it's a safek and chayshinan. I want to say they both agree that a case like this, because it's a safek, they both agree it's a safek, and because it's this type of, it's no kiddushin. That's what the first lashon says, ืคืจืืกื˜, no kiddushin. He doesn't say safek, but he says ืœื ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ, it's nothing. Comes the second lashon, and says, I agree with you, it's a safek, and because of that, no kiddushin, but the Rabbanan came and said that in this case, it still should be chayish, you know why? Because it looks like kiddushin. That's just like by the case of the ืงืฉืจ, why did the Rabbanan make ืืกื•ืจ ืงืฉืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื? A ืงืฉืจ not ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื is not ืงืฉืจ at all. So what? Because it's domeh! Here, it's also domeh, that's all it is. So the machloket between the first lashon and the second lashon is very simple: only one word. It's definitely not ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, the she'eilah is did we care, since it's ื“ื•ืžื”, so the first lashon says no, the Chachamim didn't didn't look at ื“ื•ืžื”, and the second lashon says, yeah. That's why Rashi says here when when it says ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื, ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื”. The kvetsh is, we ask the kashya: if he gave, that part is definitely ืงื™ื—ื”. No, since the ืืžื™ืจื” said, even that part is nothing. But that part is ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื”. So since it's ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื”, for the same, so the second lashon says, ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Now this, why is it not always ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื”? No, ื‘ืคื•ืขืœ ืงื™ื—ื”, but because there's a safek on this whole ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ if it's ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. Not there, according to The first part of Rashi wants to, he wants to say this safek, so ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื, ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื” ืื™ืช, ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื, ื“ืžื™ ืœืฉื™ื—ื”. So I was saying, why does Rashi say, because ื‘ืคื•ืขืœ on this Gemara everyone agrees that sof kol sof the ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื doesn't work either. Because a ื ืชืŸ that has a ืกื•ืฃ The first part of Rashi means, why did he say ื“ืžื™ ืœ... ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื”? Because he wants to say that lema'aseh it's only ื“ื•ืžื”. He gave to No, Rashi doesn't say that he didn't give. Rashi says ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื ื•ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื. So ื ืชืŸ ื”ื•ื is ื“ืžื™ ืœืงื™ื—ื”, ืืžืจื” ื”ื™ื is ื“ืžื™ ืœืฉื™ื—ื”. Why, so I asked, why, that half is that half is ืงื™ื—ื”, that half is good, the problem is the second half. Saying this half is also no good. But that's ื“ื•ืžื”! Since he gave, see, if he she gives and she says, it's not even ื“ื•ืžื”. But if he gave, it's ื“ื•ืžื”. Rashi says it's ื“ื•ืžื”, like over there, I'm using the same ืœืฉื•ืŸ, over there it says the ืœืฉื•ืŸ ื“ืžื™ื•ืŸ, here it's ื“ื•ืžื”. What do you mean, if it's ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, ืื•ืžืจ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, ืงื•ื“ื ื›ืœ, ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, ืืคื™ืœื• ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, nothing. ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื for sure, it's Not even ื“ื•ืžื”. So, so this is what the Gemara says, the second ืœืฉื•ืŸ, ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื. Normally you learn, second ืœืฉื•ืŸ says ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื, because it's a safek, we're ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. So the Ran had a good ืงืฉื™ื, if it's a safek, why ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? It's a ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื! I'm saying the ืคืฉื˜, ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื is garnisht! But ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ said you should be ื—ื•ืฉืฉ. So now, it has nothing to do with the Rambam, whether ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืœื—ื•ืžืจื ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ ืœื—ื•ืžืจื. In this case, it's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื which even in all situations is nothing, but the ืจื‘ื ืŸ, because it's ื“ื•ืžื”, they decided to be ื—ื•ืฉืฉ. Now this answers why this case is different than the case when the guy was running after her, she was, the dog was running after her. The dog was running after her, what's the safek there? ืœืคื•ืขืœ the ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ was ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, ืืœื ืžืื™, we don't know whether he was he was ืžื—ื•ื™ื™ื‘ to do it anyway, so ืžืžื™ืœื is he ืžืงืคื™ื“ for the ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ or not. That kind of safek is ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื ืกืคืง. Not in the ืคืขื•ืœื” itself. Not in the ืคืขื•ืœื” itself, but here it's a safek in the ืคืขื•ืœื” itself, that's why here it's different. Now the

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only, so everything is fine, it answers all the ืฉืืœื•ืช. Now, why why ื ืขืฉื”? That's why the Gemara says ื ืขืฉื”! It becomes like. The Gemara tries to say that if he gave and she said, his giving is no good! And that's what the Gemara, and that's why the Gemara we ask the ืฉืืœื” of the Gemara, why did the why does the Gemara have to tell us that if she gave and he gave and she said, it's as bad, ื ืขืฉื” it becomes as if he would she would give and she would say? I said, why why say that? Why have to say, if he gave and she said, it's ืื™ืŸ ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ? It tries to tell you this vort, that even though there's a safek, but the fact that he gave in a situation where she said, it's as if he didn't give! His giving doesn't count, the ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ ื‘ื›ืœืœ doesn't count! So he's trying to tell you, not just, see, if it's say ืื™ืŸ ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ we'd say, you know why it's not ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ? Because half of the ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ is missing, the ืืžื™ืจื” is no good. But he's saying, no, the whole ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ is no good, the ื ืชื™ื ื” is no good. ื ืขืฉื” ื›ืžื• ืฉื ืชืŸ ื ืชื ื” ื ืชื ื” ื”ื™ื as if she gave. Now the only problem we have now is this: so why doesn't the Rambam say ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? See, so why doesn't the Rambam, the Rambam when he says this is a safek, and you have to give ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, you have to give a ื’ื˜, when he said that, the Rambam skipped the word ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? Question is why. So different reasons, before we said why, because any ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื is ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, he doesn't have to say. But we said that's hard to say, because then why did the Gemara say it? But now I'm saying the ืคืฉื˜ in the Gemara is different. It's a safek because it's nothing, and the ืจื‘ื ืŸ were ื—ื•ืฉืฉ. So why doesn't the Rambam say ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ? Because this is not the case where he's part where he argues with the Right, right, that's not the case. Yeah, so So why doesn't he say it? It's just so it's because the Gemara said it. No, no, because it's so, it's obvious. Obvious for a different reason, it's obvious because this is not the usual So that's why, so just like the Gemara has to say it, because this is an exceptional case, so he should say it! It's not normal, but he had to tell us what the situation is here, so you should have said that ื—ื™ื™ืฉื™ื ืŸ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, it's ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. But here I want, I want to say this, that the Rambam here, when he says this ื“ื™ืŸ, he says it in a different, one letter different than he usually does,

Understanding ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ื‘ืกืคืง in cases of ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ

and I think that's the key. Whenever there's a ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ, that's ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ ืกืคืง, the Rambam uses the ืœืฉื•ืŸ ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ื‘ืกืคืง. ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ื‘ืกืคืง. Here it's not ื‘ืกืคืง. He says ืžืกืคืง. The only time he ever does. I'll show you another example where he does. See? What does that mean? I can't say anywhere, but wherever he says that, I think we have to ืžื“ื™ื™ืง. ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืก... ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืกืคืง could mean not that because of the ืกืคืง she's ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžื˜ืขื ืกืคืง, just like over here. Why were the ื—ื›ืžื™ื, why did the, why were the ื—ื›ืžื™ื ื—ื•ืฉืฉ? The ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ ื—ื•ืฉืฉ. It looks. Because why does it look? Because of the ืกืคืง it looks. So he's not saying that the ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ is ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ ืกืคืง. But yeah, what I want to say here is a different vort. You make, so it's a ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉ ื•ื“ืื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. I want to say that this is different. On one hand less, on the other hand more. Whenever there is a ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ ืกืคืง, it's a ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. Here, ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื is not even a ืกืคืง, but it's only ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ, but on the other hand, it's a ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉ ื•ื“ืื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Which one is thicker? Well, so it seems ืžืกืชื‘ืจื that a ื•ื“ืื™ ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ is stronger than a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. Now we see, he

Comparing ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ ืกืคืง ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื and ื•ื“ืื™ ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ

says because of a different thing. He says that the second day of Shavuos, he says, is more ื—ืžื•ืจ than the second day of Pesach or Sukkos, etc., because why do we have two days? Right, every Yom Tov the ืจื‘ื ืŸ made l'chatchila because of a ืกืคืง, we didn't know. Shavuos was never a ืกืคืง, because by the time Shavuos came around, they knew 50 days from Pesach, they already knew when Pesach was, and everyone they could. Ela mai, the ืจื‘ื ืŸ wanted to make two days to make all ื™ืžื™ื ื˜ื•ื‘ื™ื the same. So he says, so Shavuos stuck in no ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, but it's a ื•ื“ืื™ ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. The other days, it's a it's ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, but a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. So I want to say here, according to the pshat I'm saying is, it's on one hand less than the other, but it's worse because it's ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื it's nothing, therefore ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ it's a ื•ื“ืื™. So I want to say that's what the Rambam means. The Rambam says ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช, not, when he says ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ื‘ืกืคืง, he means it's a ืกืคืง ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ. Here it says ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžื˜ืขื ืกืคืง. Because there is a ืกืคืง, that's why the ืจื‘ื ืŸ said ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช. I'll give you an example where else he says it. He says it by the famous case, someone gives ืงื™ื“ื•ืฉื™ืŸ to a woman, he says ืขืœ ืžื ืช ืฉืื ื™ ืฆื“ื™ืง ื’ืžื•ืจ. Afilu if he's a ืจืฉืข ื’ืžื•ืจ, ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืกืคืง. Or he says the opposite, if someone says ืขืœ ืžื ืช ืฉืื ื™ ืจืฉืข ื’ืžื•ืจ, and he's a ืฆื“ื™ืง ื’ืžื•ืจ, ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืกืคืง. Why? Because the first case, maybe he thought teshuvah in his mind. So from that one second he became a ืฆื“ื™ืง. The other one, maybe he thought avodah zarah in his mind. The moment you think like that you become a ืจืฉืข. And here he says ืžืกืคืง. So I

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want to say, you know why he says ืžืกืคืง? Because ื‘ืขืฆื why is it ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื? There's not even a ืกืคืง. So see, we always bring a ืจืื™ื” from here a person can do teshuvah in a second, but ืœืคื•ืขืœ we don't know if he did. Now, on what basis? A person is a ืจืฉืข ื’ืžื•ืจ. Is there any indication that he did teshuvah? So why should that even be a reason for a ืกืคืง? Certainly the other case. Why is there a reason to suspect maybe a ืฆื“ื™ืง ื’ืžื•ืจ thought avodah zarah? So, and the ืžืคืจืฉื™ื ask that. So I want to say ืื™ื ืžื™ over there there is ืชืงื™ืŸ no ืกืคืง. This whole ื“ื™ืŸ is a pure ื“ื™ืŸ ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Pure ื“ื™ืŸ ื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Right. So that's why over there the Rambam also says ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืกืคืง, that it's not because it's a ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. It's not just ืžื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื we're ืžืกื•ืคืง maybe he thought avodah zarah. It's the ืจื‘ื ืŸ said ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžื˜ืขื because there's mid'oraita we don't know, which m'meila is nothing, ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืกืคืง. So the same thing here also. M'meila the Rambam doesn't have to say the word mid'rabbanan, but the Gemara, where it doesn't say, the Gemara just says ืกืคื™ืงื ื”ื™ื, one has to add a ืฉื™ื ื•ื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Huh? No, but, no, it does, because we should know that this is stronger than a regular ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื. Regular ืกืคื™ืงื ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื is ืœื—ื•ืžืจื ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ

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ืขืœ ืกืคืง. This what we're saying is ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ื•ื“ืื™ ืžื“ืจื‘ื ืŸ. Lechatchilah the ืจื‘ื ืŸ make a din. So the Rambam should indicate the difference. So I'm saying he indicates by saying ืžืงื•ื“ืฉืช ืžืกืคืง. Yeah. We leave early today? Mhm. 4:35, right? I hope so. 45 minutes till 5:00. 4:05. Yes. Fine? The leopard represents ืขื–ื•ืช, brazenness. The eagle represents lightness, ืงืœื•ืช. The deer represents speed, ื–ืจื™ื–ื•ืช. And the lion represents strength, ื’ื‘ื•ืจื”.

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