Yoma 44a
The Ketores, Lashon Hara, and the Gold of the Aron
Part of Ein Yaakov · 12:41
A Yoma sugya opening on daf 44a, moving through the dangers of lashon hara connected to the ketores, and the different grades of gold used to construct the Aron.
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We're holding, folks, ืืฃ ืืดื ืขืืื ืืณ. ืชื ื ืืื ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื, it's taught in the ืืฉืืื of ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื: ืขื ืื ืงืืืจืช ืืืคืจืช? We know that these ืงืจืื ืืช forgive for different things. What ืขืืืจื does ืงืืืจืช forgive? ืขื ืืฉืื ืืจืข. Now, it doesn't mean you can speak ืืฉืื ืืจืข and rely on ืงืืืจืช. If you happen to speak ืืฉืื ืืจืข, it forgives. Where do we see the connection? ืืื ืืืจ ืฉืืืฉืื ืืืืคืจ ืขื ืืขืฉื ืฉืืืฉืื. I hear. In the middle of ืืดื? In the middle of ืืดื, no. ืืดื ืขืืื ืืณ, yeah. That's right, the beginning of a new ืคืจืง. This goes back right a little bit before. Okay. Yeah, yeah. ืงืืืจืช was made very quietly. Not quietly, the ืืื is that nobody was allowed to be in the ืืืช ืืืงืืฉ, in the ืืืื. It says: ืืื ืืื ืื ืืืื ืืืื ืืืขื. No one was allowed to be there. Actually, ืืจืืฉืืื says ืืื ืืื ืื ืืืื ืืืื ืืืขื, no ืืื was supposed to be there, ืืคืืื ืืื ืฉืขืืืื ืืชืื ืืืืืช ืคื ืืื ืคื ื ืืื. It says about ืืืืืื, called men. Even ืืืืืื were not allowed to be there, just the ืืื and ืืจืืฉืดืข. Not even other ืืื ืื? No other ืืื ืื. Any reason? Because it's a ืืืจ ืฉืืืฉืื, it's something ืืื ืืืื? No, what ืืื ืืืื? Not ืืืช ืืืงืืฉ, not in ืงืืฉื ืืงืืฉืื, in the ืืื ืืืขื, any time any ืืื brought ืงืืืจืช. And ืงืืืจืช was the highest level of connection of a ืืื to the ืืืืืขืจืฉืืขืจ. Just like ืงืจืื ืืช, you see in the words, ืงืจืื ืืช comes from the word ืงืืจืื. What's ืงืืจืื? Means you get close to the ืืืืืขืจืฉืืขืจ.
ืงืืืจืช comes from the word knot. A ืงืืืจืช is a knot. So being close is one thing, and then being tied together is another thing. So ืงืืืจืช is the highest ืขืืืื. And the ืงืืื says the main ืขืืืื in the ืืืช ืืืงืืฉ is ืงืจืื ืืช, in the ืงืจืื ืืช ืืืคื the ืงืืืจืช was the highest ืขื ืื. And that's why there was never a ืืื that repeated it. If a ืืื ever did it, he never did it again. They wouldn't let him, they wanted to give everyone have a ืืืืช, because it's so special. And this is something that had to be very quiet, basically it's such a high ืืืจืื, you're ืืืฉ standing with the ืืืืืขืจืฉืืขืจ, so it forgives on things that you do quietly. Usually ืืฉืื ืืจืข you whisper, you know, you say quietly. ืืืจ ืจื ืืกืื, ืจื ืืกืื said: ืฉืืขื ืืืืืื ืื. There are seven kinds of gold: There's ืืื, regular gold. Then ืืื ืืื, special gold called good gold. ืืื ืืืคืืจ, Ophir, we'll see in a second. ืืื ืืืคื, ืืื ืฉืืื, ืืืื ืกืืืจ, ืืืื ืคืจืืื. I know it's a place, but Ophir, I don't know, Africa? Africa, Ophir, yeah. The ืืืจื explains: ืืื ืืืื ืืื. Where do we see that there is good gold, there's regular gold and good gold? ืฉื ืืืจ, it says in the beginning of ืืจืืฉืืช, ืืืื ืืืจืฅ ืืืื ืืื. It says that the four rivers came, and they came one to ืืืงื, and over there, the gold there was good. What does that show? That there is some gold regular and some gold are good. Other places are regular, this place is good. 24 karat. Yeah. 24 karat. Yeah, exactly. So it shows that there is good gold and regular gold and good gold. That doctor that spoke his name is ืืืคืืจ? Yeah, yeah, ืืืคืืจ, yeah. Then you have ืืื ืืืคืืจ, what does that mean? ืืืชื ืืืืคืืจ, comes from ืืืคืืจ. ืืื ืืืคื, why, which gold is that? ืฉืืืื ืืคื. ืคื in Yiddish, I don't know in English how it goes, in Yiddish goes ืคื is ืืืืื gold, ืืืืื gold. There is regular gold and ืืืืื gold, it's a certain type of gold. ืืื ืขืก ืืืจืืง? ืืืืื gold is a bit ืืขืกืขืจ, yeah, ืึทืืขืืข ืึผืืืืช, higher half, yeah. ืืืืขืจ, ืืืืขืจืขืจ. Nein, that's another. What can be better? Why? ืืื, ืฉืืืื ื ืืฉื ืืื ืืืืจ, ืืื ืืื. If ืืื, ืืื ืืื, then you have ืืื comes from ืืืคืืจ, which is better, and then you have ืืื from ืืืคื. ืืื ืืืคื that is ืืืื ืืคื, it's ืืืฉ like ืืืืื gold, that's that type of gold. ืืื ืฉืืื, why is it called ืืื ืฉืืื? So ืฉืืื we always think comes from ืฉืืืื, and here it's not, it comes from the word ืฉืืื. ืืื is a thread. ืฉื ืืืื ืืืื. You could weave it like a thread. I guess it's a certain ืืขืื that you have. ืฆืืฆืืช. A ืฆืืฆืืช, yeah. ืืืื ืกืืืจ, closed gold. Why is it called closed? ืืฉืขื ืฉื ืคืชื, ืื ืืื ืืืช ื ืกืืจืืช. If you open a store of selling this gold, all other stores of gold will close. No one's going to go buy it, it's so good that when you see this, no one's going to buy anything else. It's called ืืื ืกืืืจ, gold that closes the stores. I don't know what it is. ืืืื ืืื ืคืจืืืื ืฉืืืื ืืื ืืคืจืื, it's red, it's similar to the blood of of the the ืคืจืื, of the the bulls. Plating? Up, ืคืจืืืื, ืคืคืจ, yeah, so it's red, which means no, ืคืฉื is it was red gold. They say, ืืืงืข, the more the higher carat, the red more red it is. 925, what's gold? Does it have a number? There is. No, 24 carat there is. 24 karat and 14 and 10 carat. 10 carat, 14 carat gold there is. The highest is it's red. The real color of gold is not yellow. It's a purity. Yeah. It's very soft. 24 is already Very soft, very soft. Make bend. You could bend it. Yeah, this red, this, what it says, very soft. So the
ืจืื even says ืืืื the ืืจืื, the cover of the ืืจืื, ืจืฉืดื says, was a ืืคื thick. Now, in ืืืืฉ it doesn't say, everything says how thick the ืืจืื, how tall it is, but the ืืคืืจืช, it says was two and a half ืืืืช long, one and a half ืืื wide. That's all it says in ืืืืฉ. ืจืฉืดื says, ืจืืืชืื ื ืืจืฉื, the ืืืืื said it was ืืคื, a ืืคื thick, this thick. Whatever, the ืฉืืื there, the ืจืื asks, first of all, why is that ื ืืืข? Doesn't say in ืืืืฉ. And where does ืจืฉืดื get it from? ืจืฉืดื, everything ืจืฉืดื says is ื ืืืข to ืคืฉื. Where, okay, a lot of times he quotes the ืืืืื as a ืคืฉื, but here doesn't answer anything, there's nothing in the ืืืืฉ that So the ืจืื says, "Yes, ืจืฉืดื is asking a ืฉืืื, answering a ืฉืืื. If you have the length of the ืืจืื was two and a half ืืื by one and a half and you put a piece of gold there, and especially soft gold, it's going to sink in. How's it going to last? How could it hold it on top? Especially with the ืืคืืจืช on top." So ืจืฉืดื says it has to be, it must be very thick gold. So ืจืฉืดื says, "Yes, the ืจืืืชืื ื say that it was a ืืคื." But otherwise, it makes no sense. The ืจืื even wrote later somebody asked a ืฉืืื on the ืฉืืื, somebody So the ืจืื the ืจืื answered, "ืืืจืื, try it. Take a cardboard in proportion, the same proportion, put it down, you'll see it'll sink." Proportion of the of the Yeah, just like two and a half, one and a half, make like it'll sink. It can't hold that way, so you've got to have to It's all it's not like with covered with gold, correct? ืืื, best of the gold. ืืื ืืื gold, it's not a color, it's ืืื. The ืืจืื ืืื is not pure gold. It's not pure pure. ืืจืื ืืื, it's not pure gold. ืืขื, that's ืืจืื ืืื. Nein, nein, that's the gold, what's we know. It's a gold. What's a ืืจืื from ืคืจื from ืื, it's not a gold, it's a ืื. ืืืื ืื steht it that the ืืืืื, what's you give is not a ืืจืื ืืื, what's we know. Keiner knows it's pure gold, is too soft, is like ืืืฉ it stretches. Nein, say they say it's red like ืคืืจืื. And does it say it was solid gold as opposed to like wood covered with gold? No, no, no, the ืืจืื was wood covered, this was solid gold. The ืืืื, yeah, it was solid. It was also covered with gold. The ืื ืืจื was solid. ืื ืืจื was solid. That weight Yeah, you could imagine how, yeah, yeah. And how expensive it was! In heutige prices, how how much it how expensive would be a a ืืคืืจืช! Like when you see even those bricks of gold, those things are heavy. Yeah, a brick of gold is That's why, again, the the the same ืฉืืื, but it's a different ืคืจื. Says by the by the by the ืืจืื, it says, says, ืืืขืฉ ืืฆืืื ืืช ืืืจืื. ืืฆืืื made the ืืจืื. So ืจืฉืดื says, because he took care of the job, it's called on his name. Because he got involved more than others. ืจืฉืดื ืงืืื ื ืืฉื ืืึธ? It's a ืจืฉืดื. The ืจืื asks a ืฉืืื Who said that? ืจืฉืดื, which ืจืืืดื? ืจืฉืดื. ืจืฉืดื says. So the ืจืื asks a ืฉืืื on this ืจืฉืดื, why does ืจืฉืดื bring ืจืฉืดื always goes ืคืฉืืื ืฉื ืืงืจื? ืืืขืฉ ืืฆืืื, ืืฆืืื made it. Why do you have to say that ืืืืช other people, more people made that, he was involved, that's why it's called on his name? So the ืจืื answers, "Because he couldn't pick it, no one, one person could do it. It's impossible, it's so heavy that you can't have one person pick it up." Simple, simple. Yeah, he says that's why he said connected to this ืขื ืื that it was a ืืคื. So why did ืจืฉืดื say a ืืคื for that reason? If it was a ืืคื, you know how heavy that ืืคืืจืช was? Solid gold, this thick, two and a half ืืืืช long, and and one and a half ืืื wide, and solid a ืืคื, this thick I mean, it it weighted tons! And they carried the whole thing? And that, well it says, over there it says ืืืจืื ื ืืฉื ืืช ื ืืฉืืื, carried carried, the people carried it. That was a ื ืก. But what I'm saying, but this is a ืคืฉื. That's why it says ืจืฉืดื says, it can't be ืืืขืฉ, he made it. Okay, ืืึธืื ืื ืืืจื ืืืฒึทืืขืจ, ืืืจื ืขืืื ืขื ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื ืื ืงืืืืืช, they said about ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื the son of ืงืืืืืช. Now, ืงืืืืืช is a famous woman. It's the one that had seven sons who were ืืื ืื ืืืืืื. Never uncovered her Huh? That's what we said, never uncovered her hair. So they
said about ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื the son of ืงืืืืืช, ืื ืื ืืจืืข ืงืืื ืืืืื ืืคื ืื. He was able to take in one, in in one hand, four ืงืืื of ืงืืืจืช. It's a big amount. He was he was very strong and very big. ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื of the No, no, no, no, no. Different ืจืื ืืฉืืขืื. So ืืืจ, and this is what he said. He was big and strong, he said: ืื ื ืฉืื ืืจืื ืืืจืื ืืืืื ืขืื ืืื. All the women have ืืจื, I'll explain in a second, the ืืืจื explains, my mother had so much, so much ืืจื that it went up to the roof, which means, and that's why I was born special big and strong, and I was able to do it. Now what is ืืจื? ืืืื ืืืืจื, some say ืืืจืกื, ืืืจืกื, ืืจืกื, okay? What's ืืจืกื? ืืจืกื is a certain herb, some kind of food, see, that it's good for a person who's sick. If you eat it, it's like a it makes you healthy. So all pregnant women eat it those days, because a pregnant woman is considered sick, and this makes her healthy. But my mother ate so much of it, and that she got so healthy, that the the birth that she gave to me made made me so strong. ืืืืื ืืจ ืจื ืืื ืชื, like ืืื ืืจ ืจื ืืื ืชื said, ืืืืจ ืืื ืืจ ืจื ืืื ืชื, ืืืจ ืจืื, ืืืจ ืจืื ืืืืื: ืืจืกื ืืคื ืืืืื. It's good for a sick person, and therefore it was good for a pregnant woman and good for his mother. She did Is there a Yiddish on the ืืจืกื, what the ืืจืกื is? Rashi on this page? Rashi doesn't say. But if Rashi says ืืืขื, Rashi would say the French word, then you have a Yiddish of what Rashi would say, yeah. And ืืืื ืืืืจื, some say ืฉืืืช ืืจืข. That it means the ืืจืกื means ืฉืืืช ืืจืข. That we know that the ืืจืข of a person, there's much, there's what in a child when she conceives, it's only one little tiny drop of of millions of of of little sperm that go. So that's that's what it is. So she said, when he said everyone else is ืืจื, and and which one comes, which one gets connected to the egg? The best one, the one that's strongest, the best one. So he said like this, that my mother, she had this ืืจืกื, this this ืืจื, what does that mean? That she had, by her, the the like this one you say the best one goes, it's not always the ืืืฉ the best, but the stronger one spreads. By her, when she conceived, this was the strongest of the strongest, the best of all the ืืจืข that was there. And that's why he used this expression went all the way to the roof, I mean it's an expression. And that's why I was born that way. So it's with a ื? Why ืืจื? You said it's Aramaic? What? ืืจื instead of ืืจืช. Yeah, must be Aramaic. Physically big. Yeah, he had a big hand and he was a big guy, strong guy, that's why he could hold it. ืืจืกื is Barley.