we're holding ערבי פסחים. Okay. תנו רבנן. תנו רבנן, we're holding here on top here. תנו רבנן, the fifth line, fifth line. תנו רבנן. This is still the sugya of זוגות, that you're not allowed to drink or do things two. השותה כפולים, if you drink double, if you drink two, דמו בראשו. Your blood is in your head, that means you're you're you're hurting yourself. אמר רב יהודה, רב יהודה said, אימתי, this is only בזמן שלא ראה פני השוק, that's if he didn't go out into the street in between. אבל ראה פני השוק, זוגות, זוגות. דאס הייסט טרינקען אין צוויי זאכן, צוויי אינטערעסאנט, צוויי זאכן. זוגות is מזיקין. So here, if you drink if you זוגות to death? Huh? זוגות to death? Well, we'll see later, is it not to death. They could No, they could kill you. The מזיקין could kill you, have a chance to kill you if you drink if you have זוגות. But that's only if he didn't go out to the street. אבל ראה פני השוק, if you

see the street, in other words if you walked out into רשות הרבים, then you're allowed to. אמר רב אשי, רב אשי said, He built a hefsek. Yes, yes. עד כדי כך, עד כדי כך. This is only if you have kavanah to drink two, not not if you do it by you know you That we said before. If you decided you drink one, then you decided another, but if you lechatchilah plan אמר רב אשי, רב אשי said, חזינא ליה לרב חנינא בר ביבי Does that apply to every single time someone drinks tea, they say I want to have two cups of water, this is what I do, I want to lose weight, and this time I'm drinking two cups of water every According according to this Gemara it's not good. The Gemara said later if you're not makpid, they're not makpid, then you Right. So he said, Rav Ashi said, חזינא ליה לרב חנינא בר ביבי, I saw רב חנינא בר ביבי דאכל כסא, that when he ate a kos, he ate one, הוה נפיק, he would go out, וחזי אפי שוקא, he would look in the see in the street, in other words be outside, and therefore he was able to drink another one. ולא אמרן, this problem is only אלא ליוצא לדרך. When is there a sakanah? If you plan to take a trip. In other words, the מזיקין are able to hurt you if you're in a מקום סכנה. If you're in a place which is not safe, so if you're planning to go out. אבל בביתיה לא, but if you plan to stay home, then there's no problem. אמר רב זירא, רב זירא said, ולישן כליוצא לדרך דמי.

Going to sleep is like going on on a trip, because going to sleep is also dangerous. You're going to sleep, you're giving up your neshamah, so then they could hop on and get you. אמר רב פפא, רב פפא said, ולמיזל לבית הכסא כליוצא לדרך דמי. Huh? during the day, not during the night? Why not also, why not? Smoker? Smoker, so don't drink two before. Rabbi, were the מזיקין were they ממש hurt you physically? Yeah, in those days, yeah. Those days. Nowadays, we don't have. Doesn't exist anyways today, like you ever Anyone ever saw a I met a מזיק? Well, there are stories in the time of the Baal Shem Tov and the Noda BiYehuda with מזיקים, for sure. But they say the Baal Shem Tov kicked them away into behind the הרי חושך. Is it the same thing as שדים? Yeah. Yeah, there are different words for it, yeah. Nowadays Yeah, but whatever whatever דינים if if the דין would be that it has to be, we don't care that nowadays no מזיקין. If if the דין is it's not a דין, this is just telling you that it's dangerous, and then it says it, that the Gemara later says if you're not מקפיד, they're not מקפיד, so ממילא we're not מקפיד. That that wouldn't help. Now the fact anyway doesn't count. If the דין is that you're not allowed to, because there are certain things you're not allowed to and, what does it say? Even if that was about, not מקפיד. Oh, that's the point! Since it doesn't say אסור, Right, it's not a It says because of מזיקין, so therefore and then it says also later, those that are not מקפיד, the מזיקין are not מקפיד on you. So לכתחילה people are not מקפיד, and it's not And also it's more for an אדם חשוב.

Rambam holds there were never מזיקין. Rambam holds there's no such thing as שדים בכלל. Yeah. Anyway, so רב פפא says ולמיזל לבית הכסא, to go out into the towards the toilet, כליוצא לדרך דמי, is like going out on the trip. In other words, it's also dangerous, because the way they used to have the toilets Had to go out. had to go Yeah, they had to go out. Was like an outhouse, you had to go to the back and it's this, and so that's dangerous. Because of what we were just talking about. פרעגט די גמרא ובביתיה לא, you're telling me this, if you stay at home there's no problem? והא רבא מני כשורי, but רבא, when he would drink, how did he keep חשבון if this was זוגות or not? Cuz you're not allowed to have an even number. So they had beams on the ceiling or whatever, or beams like this, and every time he would drink a cup, he would look at one beam. So he remembers last time he looked at this one, now he looks at that and he would know how much there is. That's how he would keep חשבון if it's even or not. like Kiddush, you shouldn't take two That's something else, that's just for דרך ארץ. That's pashut. To take one, it's not nice, take three, you're like making yourself too much, and that's that's nothing that's not from this. And also רבא, רבא counted the beams. אביי כי שתי חד כסא, אביי when he drank one cup, מנקטא ליה אימיה תרי כסי בתרי ידיה, so his mother, which is really his stepmother, would right away hold in both hands a cup, two cups, to make sure, to remember that he drank one and now he in order to make he can't drink a second one, he has to drink two more if he wants. And these are all cases where he planned to stay home and didn't go, so you see that there was also a problem. To drink two more, you have to drink the second cup. Right, but if you want to drink more, so in other words, you carelessly can forget and drink another one, so she held two lechatchilah. So in other words, if you're going to drink, you've got to drink them both. And נחמן בר יצחק כי הוה שתי תרי כסי, if he drank two cups, מנקט ליה שמשיה חד כסא, his shamash would hold a cup of wine ready to give him. חד כסא, if he drank one, מנקט ליה תרי כסי בתרי ידיה, his shamash would hold two cups to make sure. But the kashya here is, we said before if you planned to stay home, there is no problem. Here these people stayed home and they did, they were careful with zugot. Maybe they meant to leave after and go somewhere. No, right. The Gemara knew that. The story is that he always did it, even if they didn't mean to go. And the גמרא, אדם חשוב שאני. Adam chashuv is different, because there they tried a important person, there they tried to get him faster. Talmid chacham the shedim try, yeah, even Even at home, ביתו עשאו כמדבר. There even though, right, even if you are at home. So the shedim try to get people who are chashuv, that's for them a bigger catch. Huh? Are they like the angels, the malachim? No, they're not the angels, they're they're shedim. The shedim, they have certain bodies, but you can't see them, but they're more physical. The Gemara says in a different place that in the yeshiva you have talmidim and you wonder why if their their coats get rubbed out, as if you're rubbing, and it wasn't, because the shedim are there, you didn't even see them, but they would rub your clothes, I mean there was Huh? Leave footprints, all kinds, the shedim, yeah. The Sefer HaZichronot has a story with the with the רב אדם בעל שם, not the אדם בעל שם, but רב רב יואל בעל שם. Ma'aseh with shedim, how he kicked them out from the house, a גאנצע מעשה, but then what did he describe what they look like, ooh. Listen. Yeah. Was that often or in earlier days? What? In earlier days? No. The Ramchal says gives a whole explains about shedim. Yes, it's always The only one is the Rambam. He's the only one. Everyone else I told you once, they they people argued with him and this and he said, it's not a kashya from a Gemara against him. From hundreds of gemarot, hundreds, countless sugyot. And he still holds of this? Yeah. They once brought him to a house where there's shedim there, in in his city. There is a known house of shedim, and they wanted to show him physically. So, they took him, they said, \"We'll show you.\" So, he said, \"Good.\" So, the Rambam, so they he they took him to this haunted house at the end of the city. When the Rambam came there, there were no shedim there. They got נתבטל for the kedushah of the Rambam. They also say that if you don't believe in them, they don't exist. No, not that they don't exist, they won't hurt you. Okay, but he said they don't exist. Just this week, Tovi's nephew gave a shiur, there's a special חבורה in Lakewood in the yeshiva. Yeah, especially. this topic he was speaking about, and how could it be that the Rambam says there isn't and the Baal Shem That Baal Shem, the Gemara is all full. Yeah, so he said it's it is he brought in the מעמד they were in, so the מעמד that they were in Well, that's probably that's probably it, but yeah.

אמר עולא, עולא says, עשרה כוסות אין בהם משום זוגות. If you drink 10 cups of wine, even though it's an even number, there's no problem. Because עולא לטעמיה, עולא holds like he says, דאמר עולא, עולא says, ואמרי לה במתניתא תנא, some say it says in a ברייתא, עשרה כוסות תיקנו חכמים בבית אבל. When you go to an אבל's house, he would drink 10 cups of wine. So, 2, 4, 6 and 8 we have to worry about? So far, we'll see. So they made 10 only if you drink 10 cups of wine. ואי, that's what they said to drink. ואי סלקא דעתך עשרה כוסות יש בהם משום זוגות, if 10 cups also has this problem of זוגות, היכי קיימי רבנן ותיקנו מילתא דאתיא לידי סכנה? How would the רבנן make a takanah that you have to drink 10 cups when it makes in a sakanah? אלא ראיה, that by 10 it doesn't count. אבל תמניא, יש בהם משום זוגות. From eight and up, eight, six, four, there are. ורב חסדא ורבה בר רב הונא דאמרי תרווייהו, they say no. They say שלום, מצטרף לטובה ולא מצטרף לרעה. The word shalom is is in the in the ברכת כהנים, in the third berachah. It says like this: ישא השם פניו אליך, ישא השם פניו אליך וישם לך שלום, so shalom is the seventh. Now, since it's such a good word, shalom, so shalom is מצטרף לרעה not מצטרף, מצטרף לטובה ולא מצטרף לרעה. That means like this: if you drank seven, yeah, so it's it counts as if you drank that, umimela it's not זוגות. If you drink seven and then you drink an eighth, it's also no problem. Why? Because the seventh doesn't count. The seven is such a good, that it only helps you, but it doesn't ruin it. So if that doesn't count in a case where he's going to make it worse for you, so mimela it comes out from here, an eighth you're allowed. So the one before said that eight you're not allowed. 10 you're allowed, but eight not allowed. 10 is bad, eight is not. But he holds eight is also not, because the seventh one is not going to be counted as a seven, so you really have drank seven. Where's the, where, what shalom is in the ברכות or in the ברכת הבית or something? What shalom is there? Shalom is the ברכה כולו. ישא השם פניו אליך וישם לך שלום. That's the seventh word. יברכך השם. So the seventh word is such a good word, that because of the seventh, so the seventh cup is always good. It helps you in a case where you drank eight, that really it's not called eight because that one doesn't count. And if you drank, and if you drank six, and you drink this, it does count, and then mimela it's not called six. So the bottom line, according to this, eight is is no problem. 10 we said is no problem, he holds eight is also no problem, because the seventh one will make it to be seven. Isn't a seventh a shleimut? It has its own shleimut, so the eight can't come... השתא דאתית להכי. No, but here it says both, here it does both ways. If it's shleimut, so it should, here we're saying it doesn't count, sometimes it doesn't count. השתא דאתית להכי, so then what are you worried for the 10, the 10 is really nine, because the shalom is not in the seven? Okay, according to him, it's stuck like that. The previous one who said 10 held that eight is a problem. He says 10, you think, not a problem, but even without that, eight is never a problem. אבל שיתא יש בה משום זוגות. What do you mean letivuta? Ah? What does letivuta? Letivuta is that if you drank eight, is no problem, because the seventh is is not considered, is not מצטרף לרוע. מצטרף לטיבותא means if you drank six, and then you drink a seventh one, then you're okay. It isn't מצטרף. It's מצטרף to help you to take away from zugot, but it can't be something that becomes part of zugot. But six there is. Ta shma: דרבה ורב יוסף דאמרי תרוויהו: ויחנך נמי לטיבותא מצטרף ולרוע לא מצטרף. He says ויחנך is the same way, not only shalom. And therefore, even six. אבל ארבעה יש בה משום זוגות. But four there is. אביי ורבא דאמרי תרוויהו: וישמרך נמי לטיבותא מצטרף ולרוע לא מצטרף. Even וישמרך, so the third. So, even by four there isn't. So it's only two. So it's only two. According to him, it's only two. So, you just said that so for them, Rabbah and Rav Yosef, four was important, they were concerned about it, and then they weren't concerned. He wasn't the same. It's a machloket. They didn't agree with each other. Machloket, yeah. He says only 10 is not a problem, the rest is. He says not only 10, eight also not. He says six also not. He says four also not. ויברכך is a four? Ah? ויברכך is also a word. And every other word you could say. Every word from the... So, obviously they picked these words. These are the end of the berachot. Shalom is the end, ויחנך is the end, וישמרך is the end, and it's only the end. The middle, the beginning doesn't count, it's the end. ואזדא רבא לטעמיה. Rava fits to something else he said. דרבא אפקינהו לרבנן בארבע זוגות. בארבע כוסות. בארבע כוסות.

Rava, when he would he would give his talmidim to drink four kosot. Another time, when they used to leave, before they left, he used to give them four cups. Why? Because he didn't care. Because he held that four doesn't count. אף על גב דאיזיק רבא בר לוית. Rava bar Livyat got a problem. Rava bar Livyat drank four cups, and then he got a headache. He was damaged. So לכאורה Rava should have said, \"Oh, so four is no good.\" No. לא חש לה להא מילתא. Rava didn't care. דאמר, he said, you know why he got? ההוא משום דאיענש בפירקיה הוה. He got that as a punishment for something else, because he used to ask me too much questions by the shiur. He said he got too much questions, yeah, he was a big nudnik. He tried to slug him up in yeshiva. Yeah, yes, so m'meila the Eibishter punish him, but it has nothing to do with the zugos. He said, he didn't care because... Did Rava make a limit of four for l'chaim? Yeah. Yeah. אמר רב יוסף. Rav Yosef said, אמר לי יוסף שידא. Yosef Shida told me. Yosef the shed, he was a good shed. Sometimes you have good shedim. Which one? Yeah. I never came across a good one before. Yeah. The the friendly ghost, what's his name? Casper. There was a shed who was a tzadik, no? Ah? The gilgul, the gilgul was also some reincarnation for him, wasn't he? According, yeah, according to some, they say. What, Yosef's the... Yosef Shida, that's why he's called Yosef. A gaon was also called Yosef. Anyway, some say he was a person. Some say this is a guy who's not a, a menachesh or something, but most learn, it's a shed. And he said to me like this: אשמדאי מלכא, מלכא דשידי, אשמדאי the king of the שדים, ממונה הוא אכולהו זוגי. He is in charge of zugos, of this part. ומלכא לא איקרי מזיק. And a king will not damage. A king is not going to be lower himself to damage. M'meila he

said, \"Don't be afraid, because the one that's in charge is the king.\" Ika d'amri, some say adrabba, didn't Shlomo HaMelech have promises? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he threw him away. Why would you say that the king would not, he would not damage the king? No, the king will not damage him. Oh, king cannot... Not cannot affect. A king will not do it. A king will not damage. That's why Shlomo didn't bother to get rid of the shedim? Shlomo HaMelech? No, he had a problem with Ashmedai. Ashmedai threw him away. When should he get rid of them? No, we're talking here about zugos, only about zugos. King of the shedim is Yeah, the king the king hey, he's not going to go into the zugos. And you can also say the opposite, adrabba, מלכא, the king, רשותא בידיה. He could do anything, דמאי דבעי עביד. Whatever he wants he could do. So, מלך פורץ גדר, פורץ גדר לעשות לו דרך ואין מוחין בידו. The king could even break through a wall. If a king wants to go someplace, all he does, he says break through the wall, and no one can stop him. And that's what always like a king he said he wants to go someplace, he didn't go around the road. They would knock down houses. You know in in Russia when they made the first truth the first train tracks so what's his name, Nikolai sat down with the with the architect, whatever, and he asked him, \"Where should we make it?\" So he said, \"From here to here.\" And that's it, and they made a straight line. Whatever they had to break through, they broke through, that's all. Because he made a took a pencil and made like this. Because a king could do it. In 95, created Liberty City and this What's the other government name of it? No, eight. No, this it became a came a a slum. This expression is the story of the Ben Ish Chai, you know? With the Peter. One of the the king asked the Ben Ish Chai, \"How could it be free choice if Hashem knows everything that's going to happen?\" Famous question. Famous question. So, he answered him, \"You know what? I could prove to you it has nothing to do. You still have free choice.\" Over time. How did he prove it? The Gemara So, he said, \"I'll tell you. I'll prove to you.\" He says like this, \"You know in a few weeks from now, you have to travel, are planning to travel to a certain city, and that city has two gates to enter, and you have a choice to go which one you want. I'm telling you, I know now which gate you're going to go, and you'll see, you'll tell me later if you have free choice.\" So, he wrote down on a piece of paper, something, he sealed it up, and he put it away. And then came the next few weeks, they expected the city expected the king to come through the big gate, because it was small gate, so he came with his whole entourage. He came over to the gate, and he stops. They didn't know why he wants to stop, he starts thinking, \"I am sure he says that he assumed I'm going to go through the big gate, where else would the king go? I'm going to show him that he doesn't know what he's saying.\" Makes everybody go around to the other side and come to the small gate. He comes to the small gate, he stops. \"I'm sure he was very smart that he assumed that I'm going to do this chochmah and go special to the small gate, I'm going to go back.\" He turned everybody around and went back to the front gate. Comes there, he says, \"He's smart, he's just as smart too, probably he thought that I'm going to do the davka, so he knows it. I'm going to go\" he went back and forth, he made everyone meshuga, he couldn't decide. And he's thinking to himself, \"Oy boy, do I have free choice?\" He couldn't decide, until he said, \"I have a chochmah.\" Goes over to the people and he says, \"I want you to make a new gate. Break through the wall someplace in the middle and make a new gate.\" King said, so they broke through and he went in. And wanted to see what did now he says, call the Ben Ish Chai and he brought the piece of paper, what did he do? All he did, he quoted this Gemara. מלך פורץ גדר ואין מוחין, the king could break through a wall. And he told him like this, \"Did you have free choice?\" He said, \"Yeah, sure, I did.\" You see, \"I knew.\"