Why Nullifying Chametz Requires Both Thought and Action
Why Nullifying Chametz Requires Both Thought and Action
Part of Pesach
Continues the sugya on a landlord's chametz obligations, explaining why bitul (nullification) needs genuine intent alongside a physical act, illustrated by the metaphor of the world as an airplane.
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there and I'm thinking something about, what kind of effect does it have? So, it doesn't help. Then the Gemara says, but if the ืืขื ืืืืช ืืืื ืืขืชื ืื ืืื ืืื, if the baal habayis was ืืืื ืืขืช that he's happy with the ืขืืืื ืืจื, the Gemara says it does become ืขืืืื ืืจื. Why? Gemara uses a ืืฉืื, because ืฉืืืืืชืื ืืืืื ืงื ืขืืื. Because this guy who did it, did the ืฉืืืืืช of the of the baal habayis. Now, what does the Gemara mean, he did the ืฉืืืืืช of the baal habayis? ืืื ืฉืืื ืืืืจ ืขืืืจื. An ืขืืืจื, you can't make a ืฉืืื. Besides, he never made him into a ืฉืืื. So, the Rebbe, in Likkutei Sichos ืืืง ืืดื, brings this, and he says this is not ืฉืืืืืช ืืืืจื. It's not regular ืฉืืืืืช. And he says, the Gemara calls it ืฉืืืืืชืื ืืืืื ืงื ืขืืื, he did his ืฉืืืืืช, but it's not real ืฉืืืืืช because, he says, because ืืื ืฉืืื ืืืืจ ืขืืืจื, and ืืื ืฉืืื ื- a ืืืืจ, yes, even let's say, ืืื ืฉืืืืืช ืืขืืืดื, a goy can't be a ืฉืืื, and this guy is a ืืืืจ, this guy is doing ืขืืืื ืืจื, so ืืื ืฉืืืืืช ืืืืืจ. So, how do you have ืฉืืืืืช here? So, it's not a regular ืืื ืฉืืืืืช. What is it? So, what kind of ืืืจ is it? The Rebbe doesn't say there. So, ืืืืืจื, what you could say is like this.
When it comes to do ืขืืืื ืืจื, there are two things there. There is the ืืืฉืื, the ืืืื ื, or what we call the ืืจืืฉ, which is all the same line, and the ืืขืฉื. If this person, on his own, takes someone else's thing and does it, so the ืืขืฉื is there, whatever the ืืขืฉื of bowing down. The machshavah, his machshavah can't work here. It doesn't affect here, because we said your machshavah can't affect someone else's thing. If the guy expressed his feelings that he doesn't mind that this becomes avodah zarah, then what we do is we're ืืฆืืจืฃ his machshavah with this maaseh. And then it takeh takes effect. You need a maaseh in order to, cause a guy will stand like that and think avodah zarah, it takeh won't, won't be even with his own, won't become avodah zarah just by thinking. You have to do it. So, his maaseh, if the baal habayit didn't do it, he was ืืืื ืืขืช ืื ืืื ืืื, so it's a machshavah. So, it's his basically ืืจืืฉ, or kavanah, or machshavah, together with this guy's maaseh, we call that ืฉืืืืืชืื ืืืืื. That's called a shlichut. It's not a real shlichut, but that's what the Gemara will, ืืืื ืงืขื ืืขื ืืขืจื ืขื ืืขื ืคืฉื. If we learn the peshat like that over there, let's learn the peshat over here too. The peshat is like this. When he is ืืื ื, when he appoints him as a shaliach to be ืืืื, there is a ืืืืื ืืขืช from him that he wants the bitul to take place. Then, comes tomorrow and he does the maaseh. I don't mean there is no maaseh here, what is the actual act of bitul? Forget about tomorrow, we're talking about a shaliach, the din of shaliach here that the Alter Rebbe says here, the second day, that you could make a shaliach, and he says because ืืืืื ืืขืช. And I ask: what is ืืืืื ืืขืช? The guy has to do it anyway and there... So, what we're doing is we're ืืฆืืจืฃ the ืืืืื ืืขืช, which is the ืืจืืฉ. We need a ืืจืืฉ here. The
problem with the first day is that you're, you can't have a ืฉืืื ืืจืืฉ. The second day answer, I'll tell you what. You taka ืืจืืฉ can't be a ืฉืืื. You're a ืฉืืื, he has the ืืจืืฉ. When he makes you the ืฉืืื, it's the ืืืืื of the ืืจืืฉ. But you need the ืืืืื ืืคืืขื. The ืืืืื ืืคืืขื is done through the ืฉืืื, and that doesn't need a ืืจืืฉ. So, if that doesn't need the ืืจืืฉ, so you're ืืฆืืจืฃ the two, and ืืืืื, you have the ืืืืื, that's why the ืืืืื helps. Huh? ืืืืื ืืคื. And doing the, and thinking or ืืคื, ืืคืืื ืืคื, ืงืื ืฉื ืืคื, but even, you have to be, because like we said before, otherwise the ืืื ืื ืืฉืืืืืช itself is the ืืืืื. On the one hand, the guy, the the owner was thinking, had a had the ืืจืืฉ part, and now this guy is thinking about it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's they don't, it's not ืืขืฉื. Here, I don't mean that's the ืืขืฉื or ืืืืืจ, but it's the ืคืืขื, call it the actuality, the really the being ืืคืืขื. Because otherwise, the ืืื ืื ืฉืืืืืช would be enough. So, we say no, what's missing? The ืืจืืฉ is there, but you're missing the the ืืืืื ืืคืืขื. And this is the ืืืืื ืืคืืขื. So, it comes out here like this. That the ืืืืื, in this case, there's no real ืืื ืฉืืืืืช here. What? There's no ืืื ืฉืืื. You're not making a ืฉืืื. Because just like over there, we call it ืฉืืืืืช. It's not. But, on the other hand, there has to be a real ืืื ืฉืืืืืช. Why? This is because of what we said before from the Alter Rebbe by ืฉืืืจ ืืืฉืืืจ. By ืฉืืืจ ืืืฉืืืจ, the Alter Rebbe says that there is a ืืื of ืืืืื ืืคืืขื that you have to have. The one that's ืืืืง, or the one that has the ืืืื, ืชืืื, has the ืืืื of ืืืืื even if it doesn't help. From the two ืขื ืื ืื we said over there, there is the ืืืืื that's supposed to take effect on the chametz, that the ืฉืืืจ does. Then there's a din that you have to do bitul. Now, in the case of you're making a shaliach, who has to do that bitul? The ืืฉืื. So, on that, ืฉืืืืืช takeh can help. Why not? That doesn't need a ืืจืืฉ. See, the problem of the regular bitul is that it's ืืจืืฉ. The ืืืืื ืืคืืขื, you could takeh make a shaliach. The problem why you can't make a, you could make a shaliach. So,
what you're doing here is, by him making a shaliach, he's accomplishing two things. ืืฆื the bitul, ืืฆื the ืืคืฆื, the chametz to be bitul, that it should actually take effect, where you need the ืืจืืฉ and the maaseh, of his ืืจืืฉ with the maaseh, and then, that he, the ืืฉืื, should be doing a bitul, for that he makes a shaliach, and there is a real ืืื ืฉืืืืืช. So, it comes out that there are two ืขื ืื ืื here in the bitul that you do when you make a shaliach, two ืขื ืื ืื of a bitul. It's his ืืืืื ืืขืช together with his maaseh, and then the fact that he made him into a shaliach, you need a ืืื ืื ืฉืืืืืช. If you make him into a ืฉืืื, ืฉืืืื ืฉื ืืื ืืืืชื, the ืืขืฉื ืืืืืื he did. Lefi zeh I want to say will come out a ืืืืืฉ ืืื. If this is true, will come out a a new din that doesn't say anywhere. A new din. It's only ืฉืืืืืช when he actually does the maaseh. Yeah, when ืืื... he didn't do it! But when he does the maaseh, he's first of all finishing off the ืืจืืฉ of his, plus he's doing, for his sake he's doing the maaseh. No, you can't. The ืืจืืฉ is his. The other guy had the ืืจืืฉ. But what we're saying from the Gemara in ืขืืืื ืืจื, we see that you could combine it for somehow, some reason. ืืคื ืื will come out a marvelous din. What happens if one person is ืืืื ืืขืช that he wants the chametz to be batel? Didn't make a shaliach. Comes another person and is ืื... and and does bitul. Will that bitul help or not? I'll tell you: it'll help and not help. Not kol kach. Not kol kach. Oh, oh, oh! What'll happen is like this: The bitul for the fact that the chametz will become ื ืชืืื will help, because he has the ืืจืืฉ. Just like by the case of ืขืืืื ืืจื, he didn't make him, he didn't tell him to do anything, he didn't make him into a shaliach. So if he didn't make him into a shaliach, nevertheless, the fact that he does the maaseh, we combine... The ืืจืืฉ doesn't help, but since he had the ืืจืืฉ, he had the kavanah, we combine it with his maaseh and we... called the shlichut of the ืืืื ืขืืื, and it takes effect. So the bitul would take effect, because he was ืืืื ืืขืช, he did the maaseh. The second part of the bitul, the fact that a meshaleach as a gavra has to do the bitul, that he didn't do, because he never made a shaliach. He didn't make him into a shaliach, so you can't say ืฉืืืื ืฉื ืืื ืืืืชื on it. This will come out, the ืืื ืืคื ืื. The item itself is batel. The item of it is batel. It's It's a... But the the sec- there are two parts in the bitul, and that part of the bitul he has not fulfilled. There's a chiyuv of ืชืงื ืช ืืืืื that they made. A personal ืชืงื ืช ืืืืื that Chachamim made that you have to be mevatel. He didn't do, because without a shaliach- without... he made him into a shaliach, no. Why did Chachamim make...? Well that- I'm not... First of all, it's not the geder this, it's a fact. But besides that, but that's the explanation could be... No, pashut, because Chachamim made a takanah for most cases, so lo plug, so they made every case you have a ืืืื ืืืืงื, a ืืืื ืืืืื. It's lo plug, it's a din that you need to be... So the chametz is batel. It would be mutar. Yeah, yeah, he didn't do his ืชืงื ืช ืืืืื. Like in the case of a ืฉืืืจ ืืืืฉืืจ... ืืืฉืืืจ. What happens if the ืืฉืืืจ... the ืฉืืืจ was mevatel and the ืืฉืืืจ was bodek and the ืืฉืืืจ didn't do bedikah? Is there any problem with the chametz after Pesach? No. What would happen if the Torah was mechayev the person's ownership of the of the of the chametz...? Meaning? No, that's why... Here we say we combine it, because why would we combine it? Maybe it can't be combined! Because why can't we combine by regular by hefker? Here we do combine it. I'm just bringing as a dugma that we find such a musag, so we could say here, here in taharah, because there is... we combine it. What comes out from here, this din, if this din is true, that if the if the person is ืืืื ืืขืช someplace and the people hear, so then this will help. This will explain the the the the ืกืขืืฃ we just missed. But I want to bring out another before we get to it. It comes out here that there are two pratim in the bitul: there is a bitul that the chametz has to be ื ืชืืื, and there is a ืืื ืืืืื on the person, that the person is ืืฆื ืืืืจื. Could be that's stam... I'm just saying as a remez now. I'm not... Yeah, because you weren't here in the beginning here. What? You weren't here in the beginning, so you didn't hear that. No, no, I explained in the beginning so I don't... I don't... Could be this is This is actually not a real pshat, I'm saying as a remez, that the Ran, when the Ran says, why did the Chachamim say that bitul is not enough and you have to be ืืืืง also? We learned in the beginning. Tosafot says because ืฉืื ืืืื ืืืืื, and the Ran says another vort. What does he say? Because not everyone ืืืื ืืื ืฉืื. Here. ืืื ืื ืฉืืืื, yeah, ืืื ืืคื ื ืฉืืืืื ืื ืชืืื ืืืืฉืืชื ืฉื ืื ื ืืื, since it's totally in the machshavah of people, ืืืื ืืขืืชืืื ืฉืืืช, the minds of the people are not equal always, not the same, ืืืคืฉืจ ืฉืืงืืื ืืื, people might be ืืงืื, ืืื ืืืฆืืื ืืืื ืืืืจื, they might take it not take it out from their heart completely. So he says, ืืคืฉืจ ืฉืืงืืื ืืื ืืื ืืืฆืืื ืืืื ืืืืจื. It's two leshonot. I'm just saying as a remez, because there are two peratim in bitul. So you both In the Alter Rebbe, we see it even better, the Alter Rebbe here, when he brings this Ran that we just said, he says like this: ืืคื ื ื' ืืืจืื, you need to both. He says, because, ืื ืขื ืื ืืคืงืจ ืชืืื ืืืืฉืืชื ืฉื ืืื, since it's totally in ืืืฉืื, ืฉืืคืงืืจื ื ืืื ืฉืื, you see, ืืืคื ืฉืืื ืืขืช ืื ืื ื ืืื ืฉืืื, so he says since not everyone has the same mind, ืืืคืฉืจ ืื ืฉืืงื ืืืืจ ืืื ืืคืงืืจื ื ืืื ืฉืื ืืื ืืืฆืืื ื ืืืื ืืืืจื. Well obviously, if you're not ืืคืงืืจ ืืื ืฉืื... So he says you might not be ืืคืงืืจ ืืื ืฉืื and you might not take it out ืืืื ืืืืจื. So it's just a remez. ืืคืงืืจื ื ืืื ืฉืื is the fact the ืืจืืฉ ืืื ืฉืื. ืืื ืืืฆืืื ื ืืืื ืืืืจื means the pashut doing the ืืขืฉื ืืืืจื, ืืขืฉื ืืืืืื. It's not exactly the words, but I'm saying could be a remez, why, because otherwise... could say he wants to make it clearer, but it's double lashon. Ya, oder ya oder nisht. That's not the... Does that mean that there's like a threshold, you have to have a certain feeling, and once you get to that level the item is hefker? No, you have to have a maaseh. That's the ma'aseh, then. The ma'aseh the guy another, the person has to, the second person has to be ืืืื ืืคืืขื. Verbally? Verbally. So the person who is not having it fully in his heart? Yeah, but that that's close to his heart. Otherwise, if a person bichlal on his own, ein hachi nami, that would be a problem. Either one of the two would be missing would be a problem. Whether you're missing the heart or you're missing the ืืขืฉื ืืคืืขื, you wouldn't be mekayem the mitzvah, there wouldn't be bitul, the chametz wouldn't be batal. So the
Ran says two things: why did the Chachamim say bitul is not enough, you need bedikah? Since we have to do these two things, and maybe you won't do both. You might have the ืืจืืฉ, but not do the ืืืืื ืืคืืขื. You might do the ืืืืื ืืคืืขื, not have the ืืจืืฉ. So that's why which bichlal answer, there's a Rabbi' Akiva Eiger ask a she'elah on this Ran: what's the pshat that Chachamim were afraid since you have to have kavanah for bitul, maybe you might not have it. Why didn't they do it about everything? ืงืจืืืช ืฉืืข has to have kavanah. So make some takanah that you might not have kavanah in ืงืจืืืช ืฉืืข. All kinds of things you have to have kavanah. Where did the Chachamim say because of kavanah, because of lack you might not, since not everyone's mind works so good? There's a lot of things you need kavanah. But by by certain mitzvot that if you don't have kavanah, and those mitzvot that you're not yotzei without kavanah, if you hold ืืฆืืช ืฆืจืืืืช ืืืื ื, I'm just giving an example, why didn't they say you should do something special to me'orer your I'm just give So he has that she'elah. So ืขื\"ืค here it's not regular kavanah. Here it's besides the kavanah and the ืืืจ of bitul is a ืืขืฉื ืืืืื. Maybe that's what you try to say. So saying, if you say this answers why the bitul of chametz is so special and the chachamim were afraid. But that's a whole ืืืืืืืข ืขืกืง. Bedikah helps for that, that's all. Oh, so if you
do bedikah, so b'meila you got rid of the chametz. Kashya. What if someone will write down ืืืชื, is that a maaseh? You can not mean it also. You can mean the words the same. Writing is a maaseh. If you do it, it's probably probably fine. It's probably fine, I imagine. I can't tell you, I imagine, but again, like saying. Right, right, if you don't understand what you're saying, it's not ืืื ืืขืฉืืืช. Anyway, let's get back here. What the Alter Rebbe is telling us ืื ืืืข this maaseh with the guy who left and didn't tell his family to do bedikah bitul, so bedikah they have to do because And what about bitul? So I'll tell you like this: we don't know, first of all, the guy might be mevatel there, but if the guy is mevatel there, we don't need anything. But we're afraid, the Alter Rebbe says, maybe the guy will not be mevatel there, he'll forget. It's possible that a few days before Pesach the guy expressed himself, ืืืื ืืขืช, \"You know what? I should make sure,\" tells himself, \"I want to make sure I shouldn't forget,\" whatever, he is ืืืื ืืขืช. If he did that and the ืื ื ืืืช here will do the bitul, it's going to take care of the chametz. It won't take care 100% because he never made him into a shaliach. B'meila that part that he has to do the bitul will not happen because you have to make him in a shaliach. It doesn't But if he was ืืืื ืืขืช and they do it, it doesn't help 100% in every detail, but it helps legabei the chametz. So let's read the se'if inside: ืืืืจ ืืืืืงื ืืื ืฉืืืืื ืื ืื, they'll be ืืืื. ืืฃ ืขื ืคื ืฉืืื ืืืืืื ืืืขืื ืื ืื, their ืืืืื will not help completely, why? ืืืื ืฉืืื ืืืืฅ ืฉืืื, it's not their ืืืฅ, ืืืขื ืืืืช ืื ืฆืื ืืื ืืืื, he never told them to, didn't make them ืฉืืืืื ืืื. That means we're afraid maybe he was ืืืื ืืขืช, but he didn't make them shluchim. B'meila if he didn't make them shluchim, it helps, but it doesn't help ืื ืื. ืืืื ืืงืื ืืฉ ืืืืฉ, we're afraid, ืฉืื ืืฉืื ืืขื ืืืืช ืืืื ืืืงืื ืฉืืื, maybe he'll be afraid he'll be forget to be ืืืื. And what we mean we're afraid he'll be forget to be ืืืื at the time of the when you're supposed to. Not that we're afraid he won't be megaleh daat, that could also be, but farkert, maybe he did, but maybe even if he was megaleh daat, comes b'foal he'll forget. ืืืื ืฉืืื ื ืขืืกืง ืฉื ืืืืืงืช ืืืฆื ืืืืืขืืจื ืงืจืืื ืฉืืื. He's saying why? Because a person a lot of times megaleh daat before, why will he forget? Because when it comes to the moment, you know, your mind slips, unless you're involved and you have a din of biur. That's why he goes ืืืจืืืืช. He's saying it's not that he might not, he might forget because he's not ืขืืกืง. What does that stress? He might forget to do it b'foal, but not the ืืืืื ืืขืช. And what will happen then? If they won't do anything, ืืื ืืืืื ืืืืฅ ืืื. So the chametz won't, not only he won't do his mitzvah, the chametz won't be ื ืชืืื at all. ืืืืื ืฉืืืืื ืื, so better let them do the ืืืืื, ืืื ืฉืื ืืืืื ืืืืฅ ืืื. Let them do it, so you'll have at least the chametz, better than it shouldn't be at all, because if they don't, not at all. Then he says, that he had given ืืขืช, right, that's why the next piece, ืืจืืื ืืืืืืจื ืขื ืื, you should warn them, make sure they do it, ืืฆืืช ืืื ืกืคืง. So you ask, which safek? The safek maybe he was megaleh daat, see? Because we don't know if he was megaleh daat. So if he wasn't megaleh daat, this ืืง won't help. But maybe he was megaleh daat, so it's a safek. So in order to be ืืืฆื the safek, maybe a safek, so do it. ืืืฃ ืื, even if he was megaleh daat, that side of the safek, your bitul will not help ืื ืื because it won't be completely, because that din of bitul that he has to do of the gavra. But better that it should be, the chametz should be ื ืชืืื, better than if it's not at all. This that the Alter Rebbe says on the side, that without ืืืืื ืืขืช it doesn't help at all, that means not in this case, ืืืื. if a person is never ืืืื ืืขืช. Without ืืืื ืืขืช, ืืื ืืืืื ืืฉืืื ืืืขืื ืืืื, because he is not ืืืื ืืขืช and you'll do it yourself, it doesn't at all, there's nothing to be ืืฆืืจืฃ, exactly. But that's what he's saying, doesn't help. In this specific case, it won't be ืืืื. In this specific place, it won't be ืื ืื, because it would if he was if because in this case we're afraid maybe he was ืืืื ืืขืช. And that's what the Alter Rebbe says, that ืืืื they should do this rather than they should. So why ืืื ื ืืืขืื ืืืื by the by the ืืฉืืืจ? ืืืื ืืืืฅ. You said ืืืื ืืืืฅ. Huh? You said ืืืื ืืืืฅ, that's a ืคืฉืื ืคืฉื. Now read ืืืื ืืืืฅ again. The ืฉืืืจ has to be ืืืื because the the the ืื ืฉืืืฉืืืจ ืืืื ืืื ื ืืืขืื ืืืื ืืืืื ืืช ืืืืฅ ืฉืชืืงื ื ืืืื ืืืจ ืืืืืงื. Not on the first ืืืืื made it you have to be ืืืื the chametz after the bedikah. Mid'rabbanan, mid'oraita, if you did the bitul, the bedikah this doesn't help, because ืืืื ืืืืฅ, the ืืฉืืืจ doesn't help at all. So you need the ืฉืืืจ. No, no, because the ืฉืืืจ's chametz. The ืืฉืืืจ can't do it. Here is ืื ืื because the guy the ืฉืืื Right. Doesn't move. No, ืืืื what? ืืืื ืชืงื ืช ืืืืื ืฉืชืืงื ื ืืืื ืืืจ ืืืืืงื, not the gavra's part. ืืืืื said that the chametz that you have, not only must you ืืืืง it, ืืืืืง ืฆืจืื ืฉืืืื. ืืืื that, his this ืืฉืืืจ doesn't help at all. Because it's not his chametz. Here we're talking about can Here it is his chametz. So here, ืืื ื ืืืขืื ืื ืื. But if they do it, at least they do they they accomplished it. What is that? Somebody does a bedikah with no chametz at all. You don't hide the chametz, you do a bedikah? Yeah, but you don't know, might be there. They don't have to find chametz. You checked, you know you know there's nothing there. So now there's no ืืื ืืืืงื anymore. It's a place where you didn't hide the chametz, you check there's no chametz. So now How do you do bittul? Yes. Where's the ืืืืื ืื on? Something there. ืืืฅ ืฉืืื ื ืืืืข. You might not Maybe this ืคืืจืืืืืืขืจืืข happened. Right, so you're mevatel just in case there was. That's the ืืฉืื of the bittul. The chametz that I didn't find, if there is any, obviously. If there isn't, there isn't. If there is. That you what? Yeah. Forget. How is that shayach to forget? Very shayach if you're not involved. Right, right. No, but he he he plans to do it, and he says, \"Okay, I have 15 minutes.\" And he get starts doing something, it's chatzi past, too late. It could happen. ืืืฉืืืืช, it could happen even now, doing the ืืืขืืจ. But you have to always be careful. I know when Erev Pesach is on Shabbos, it's on my mind the whole time, because you have to be ืืืื ืืืฅ on on Shabbos. Before an hour, I I think about it for an
hour before. Shouldn't forget, shouldn't forget. ืืืขืกื, ืคืืจืืฉืื, ื'ืงืขื ืืื ืคืืจืจืขืื, ื'ืืื ืืื ืคืืจืงืืงื, ืืืื ืคืืกื, finished. When? When you burn. But if you're not burning, that's what he says. If you're burning, we're not ืืืฉืฉ he forgot. Since the guy's not burning, think like Erev Pesach. Erev Pesach you're not burning the chametz, and you have to be mevatel. It's so easy to forget to be mevatel. A person can't He says the ืืฉืื, ืงืจืื ืืฉืืื. If you're not ืขืืกืง ืืืืขืืจ, it's ืงืจืื ืืฉืืื. Why would it be different in Australia, according to the second opinion? In the case Australia, let's say let's say you remained full ownership of the chametz on on on meaning it wasn't just it was you retain ownership of it. If you have ownership, okay. Then this this wouldn't apply? What would logically be the difference? In which case? What wouldn't? If the Torah didn't meaning ืืืฅ ืืกืืจ ืืื ืื ืืกืืจ ืืื ืื. Let's say let's say let's say ืืืืื the ืชืืจื ืืืื ืืืืื ืืื ืืืื ืืืขืืจ. Right. Let's say Wouldn't be ืืืืื, it's real. You wouldn't be over. Let's No, let's say let's say it's not. So let's say it didn't Huh? Let's say Let's say it didn't take off. Let's say it wasn't asur behana'ah, but let's say it didn't take off your your ownership of it. So you're over now, and you could be mevatel it on Pesach. Why wouldn't this apply? No, you'd say because the whole inyan of being mitztaref two things is a chidush. So wouldn't this chidush wouldn't apply Probably not, yeah. What logically would be the difference? Yeah. Because it's a hard thing to say, to say my machshavah with your your ma'aseh. But since the Torah made it easier, so we apply it. said over that was asking this question, he said,
\"Let's look at it like this. You buy a ticket for a plane, so the company gives you the flight. They're giving you a flight. You give them money, they give you the service. But in what context do they give you the service? When you play according to their rules. If you get on the plane and you take a baseball bat and you start bashing out the windows, they're going to tie you to the chair, throw you off in the middle of the desert.\" He says, \"They gave you the flight. Now, what is this entire world? This world is an airport. It's an airplane. You're flying in this world. ืืงืืืฉ ืืจืื ืืื created this world. ืืงืืืฉ ืืจืื ืืื allows you to stay in this world as long as you're playing according to His rules. Once you violate the rules, ืืงืืืฉ ืืจืื ืืื has every right to say throw him off the plane. There is no chilul Hashem in that.\" That was how he said that it's possible to answer this kushya. [Non-speech audio] [Non-speech audio]