Walking Through the Rebbe's Pesach Seder, Step by Step
Walking Through the Rebbe's Pesach Seder, Step by Step
Part of Pesach · 1:24:51
A detailed, practical walk-through of minhagei Chabad for the Pesach Seder -- from bedikas chametz and building the ke'arah through Yachatz, Maggid, the Four Cups, and Hallel -- drawing on firsthand recollections of exactly how the Rebbe conducted each step (the fold of the cloth, the size of the maror, breaking the afikoman into five pieces). Closes with practical questions on wine versus grape juice and Yom Tov observance for visitors to Eretz Yisrael.
Audio Transcript
Okay, really what we're going to do, that was the plan at least, uh that just to go through the order of the 住讚专, and uh go through the way the 诪谞讛讙讬 讞讘状讚. And certain things are not even written as 诪谞讛讙讬 讞讘状讚, but things that the 专讘讬 did and uh uh many of the 讞住讬讚讬诐 follow what the 专讘讬 did. Even though sometimes things that the 专讘讬 did is only, like we say, 专讘讬砖注 注谞讬谞讬诐, only for a 专讘讬, but uh uh some 讞住讬讚讬诐 you know want to follow and do what the 专讘讬 did, especially with uh it says a 诇砖讜谉, the 专讘讬 writes 诪谞讛讙讬 诪谞讛讙 讘讬转 讛专讘. The 诪谞讛讙 in the 专讘讬's house is so and so. The 专讘讬 once said, 讘讛转讜讜注讚讜转, whenever he wrote 诪谞讛讙 讘讬转 讛专讘, it means that's what everyone should do. Except specific places where he said clearly that it's only if you do it in the 专讘讬's house, and I'll mention it on the way. So I think the first thing we will start, it's like the 讛讙讚讛 starts, and it starts with 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓. So even though it's not part of the 住讚专, but uh the 专讘讬's 讛讙讚讛 start 讛讙讚讛 starts with 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓. So, 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓 is a easy thing. Everyone knows what you're supposed to do with 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓. But the 诪谞讛讙 is, which is by most people like you use a feather, and you use a spoon, and you use a candle, and you use a bag. And the reason for this feather is in case you see 讞诪抓 you you uh sweep it into the into the bag. And you use a candle, our 诪谞讛讙 is to use a wax candle. And I think most of the 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓 sets anyway come with wax candles. It's not all, but uh we should use a wax candle. And um it says we have to be 讘讜讚拽 in the proper places. 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓 comes after 诪注专讬讘 normally. And uh You had a good you could ask, it's anything. Okay, now, I was I was going to get to that. Okay, I'll get to it now. And when we do the 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓, before you do the 讘讚讬拽讛, you take 10 pieces of 讞诪抓, and it says it should be hard 讞诪抓, I don't understand what it means, it says hard 讞诪抓 in order so it shouldn't uh 讘专注拽注诇住 讗驻 it shouldn't uh crumb. I think soft doesn't crumb and hard does crumb. I don't know, it says it Anyway, you should put it away. It doesn't say anywhere that you have to put it away and hide it, that uh you don't know where it is and later you have to find it. It doesn't say, the children do that and it's a good idea, and uh you have to keep 讞砖讘讜谉 of it exactly where you put it, that you have all 10, because if you don't find one, you're up the creek, because if you don't find it, you have to search the whole house all over again till you find it. So, you have to make sure you know where you find it and you put it in. It's 注诇 驻讬 拽讘诇讛 that you have to have 10 pieces. And after we finish the 讘讚讬拽讛, we First of all, we say the 讘专讻讛, and anybody who is going to help you, and going to go into a room, should stand there and answer 讗诪谉, and be 诪讻讜讜谉 to be 讬讜爪讗. And then some people would like maybe go off in their rooms and they would be 讘讜讚拽 讞诪抓 in their rooms. And then you're not allowed to talk till you finish the 讘讚讬拽讛, unless it's 注谞讬谞讬诐 of connected to the 讘讚讬拽讛. And you don't forget to be 讘讜讚拽 every every place that you have, for instance, the car. If you're going to use your car on 驻住讞, so it's not sold in the 讞诪抓, you also have to do 讘讚讬拽讛, and you have to do 讘讚讬拽讛 with a candle. So when you finish 讘讚讬拽讛 in the house, you go to the car with your candle and you It's hard, the the wind blows it out, so you have matches there to make sure that the So, you're 讘讜讚拽 讞诪抓 in the car, also. And after 讘讚讬拽讛, then you put the 10 pieces and everything that you found together with the candle and the spoon into the bag, and the 诪谞讛讙 is that you have the the handle of the spoon sticking out of the bag and you tie the bag with rope, and that's the bag, you put it away someplace that no one should get it, little kids shouldn't find it, someplace special, and that's the 讞诪抓 that you're going to burn the next day. But before we do that, we say 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗. 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗, which is 讘讬讟讜诇 讞诪抓, 诪驻拽讬专 the 讞诪抓. We actually say 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗 twice. We say 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗 at night when we're finished 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓. We also say 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗 the next morning when we are burning the 讞诪抓. The difference between these two 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗's, it's both of them are 讘讬讟讜诇 讞诪抓 means we are 诪讘讟诇, we nullify the 讞诪抓 in our mind that we decide that it's worthless and it's like 讛驻拽专 and it doesn't belong to anybody. By doing that, we are 诪拽讬讬诐 the 诪爪讜讛 of destroying the 讞诪抓. The difference is that at night we say the the the 讘讬讟讜诇 that we say the 讻诇 讞诪讬专讗 is only on 讞诪抓 that we don't know about. After we search the house, maybe there's someplace 讞诪抓 that we didn't find, that's called 讞诪抓 砖讗讬谞讜 讬讚讜注, so the the 讘讬讟讜诇 that we say is for that 讞诪抓. But we are not 诪讘讟诇 at that moment we don't nullify the 讞诪抓 that we know where it is, the best the reason is because we still plan to eat it, how could you be 诪讘讟诇 it? So the next day when you're burning the 讞诪抓, then you are 诪讘讟诇 all the 讞诪抓, 讞诪抓 that you know about, 讞诪抓 that you don't know about, it's all 诪讘讟诇. And this is 诪讚专讘谞谉 that you have to do both, 诪讚讗讜专讬讬转讗, if you'd be only 讘讬讟讜诇 would be enough, you wouldn't have to destroy the 讞诪抓, only searching and destroying the 讞诪抓 would be enough, and the 专讘谞谉 said that you have to have both 讘讚讬拽讛 and 讘讬讟讜诇, and this is to what we do. We're 讘讜讚拽 check and we're 诪讘讟诇 the 讞诪抓, and we burn it and we're also 诪讘讟诇 the 讞诪抓. This is 讘谞讜讙注 the 讘讚讬拽转 讞诪抓.
讘谞讜讙注 注专讘 驻住讞, we all know that 注专讘 驻住讞 we're not allowed to eat 讞诪抓 after the certain hours, which exactly what time this year it is, anyone remember the time? It's on the sheet, I'll give a look. Yeah. 讗讻讬诇转 讞诪抓, 讘讬注讜专 讞诪抓. 讗讻讬诇转 讞诪抓 here is it says till 10:52. Is this according to the 讗诇讟注专 专讘讬? Does this go according to the 讗诇讟注专 专讘讬? Because according to, I didn't figure them as the 讝诪谞讬诐. It says here, 住讜祝 讝诪谉 讗讻讬诇转 讞诪抓 is 10:52, 讘讬注讜专 讞诪抓 by 12:07. Yes, well this must be according to the 讗诇讟注专 专讘讬 also. So we are we can't eat 讞诪抓 after that time. For another hour we're allowed to have 讛谞讗讛 from 讞诪抓, we could use 讞诪抓 if we have to for any benefit, and then when we we could have to burn 讞诪抓 then. After that, you can't eat 讞诪抓. You can't eat 诪爪讛 either on 注专讘 驻住讞. So, you eat 讞诪抓 in the morning, and then later on during the day when you're hungry you eat other stuff. You could eat fish and 驻诇讬讬砖 and things like that, but you can't eat any, 驻砖讜讟, 讞诪抓 and not even any 诪爪讛. Also the 诪谞讛讙 is that we don't eat anything that is in 诪专讜专 and 讞专讜住转 you don't eat till after the second 住讚专. That means from 注专讘 驻住讞 on. So, 讞专讜住转, which is made up of nuts and apples, we don't eat, and 诪专讜专, which is the 讞专讬讬谉 or the lettuce, that we don't eat. So anything of that we don't eat during the day. Huh? 诪爪讛 we don't eat from 驻讜专讬诐, the real 诪爪讛, 30 days before. It means the real 诪爪讛, which is 驻住讞'讚讬拽注 诪爪讛. 讞诪抓'讚讬拽注 诪爪讛, I know there are some that claim that they don't eat 讞诪抓'讚讬拽注 诪爪讛 either, but there is no reason why not. The the 诪爪讛 of the year the 诪爪讛 that you buy in the store all year round is 讞诪抓, it's real 讞诪抓. They actually let it rise a little bit so it should give a bit of better taste. So if it's real 讞诪抓, why shouldn't you be able to eat it? But the 诪爪讛 that we that you even the 诪讻讜谞讛 诪爪讛 that we don't eat, but 诇驻讜注诇, since it's 诪爪讛 and people eat it for 驻住讞 and it's 讬讜爪讗 the 诪爪讜讛, so we don't eat 诪爪讛 obviously the whole day and the whole 30 days.
Okay, now we get to the 住讚专. Some people have a 诪谞讛讙 that they make the prepare the 拽注专讛 during the day or before they go to 砖讜诇. 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is not like that. 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is that we make the 拽注专讛 when you come home from 砖讜诇. You come home from 诪注专讬讘 and you it says in 砖讜诇讞谉 注专讜讱 we shouldn't waste time, children shouldn't fall asleep, and you have to start preparing the 拽注专讛. The 诪谞讛讙 is also that every person that's over 讘专 诪爪讜讛 has his own 拽注专讛. Some people have a 诪谞讛讙 that only the head of the household has his own 拽注专讛, but everyone else not. The 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is that everybody who's over 讘专 诪爪讜讛 has his own 拽注专讛 the same way. And on the 拽注专讛 we have what we the way the 拽注专讛 is made is you have a plate on the bottom, 驻砖讜讟 a plate, and on top of the plate you put three 诪爪讜转, and on top of the three 诪爪讜转 there is a cover, and on top of the cover you put the different objects that you're supposed to put. And in between the 诪爪讜转, there should also be a separation. Now, some people have these 诪爪讛 讟讗砖谉 as they call them, which 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 have a separation in between that you're able to put, or some people have these silver or metal 讻诇讬诐 that they have, okay? Just to tell you what the 专讘讬 used, the 专讘讬 did not use any of the official 诪爪讛 讟讗砖谉, he did not use anyone that has any writing on it or any decorations on it, he used a plain a plain cloth, which some years what he did was he had a cloth that would fold over. So like this, it was a big one. He put the 诪爪讛 on this, folded over, and this was the top, and in between the 诪爪讜转 he would put other cloths or napkins. Later he had a bigger a bigger cloth that he would fold it into four, and the 诪爪 it was so big after it was folded that there were place in between that you're able to put it, but the idea is that you should separate between the 诪爪讜转. And all this should be on a plate, even though the 专讘讬 writes, in the 讛讙讚讛 he wrote that in 讘讬转 讛专讘, 诪谞讛讙 讘讬转 讛专讘 is that we do not use a plate on the bottom. The 专讘讬 had his 拽注专讛 on a 讟讗住 砖诇 讻住祝, which means on a on a silver tray. And the other people did not have anything under the 诪爪讛. So till the 住驻专 讛诪谞讛讙讬诐 came out, which was in 转砖讻状讛, everyone assumed that our 诪谞讛讙 is not to use a 拽注专讛, that we don't use a plate. But the 专讘讬 then, when they gave out 住驻专 讛诪谞讛讙讬诐 the 专讘讬 wrote that he thinks that the 驻砖讟 is only if you sit by the 专讘讬's table. But a person in his own house should have a 拽注专讛, should have a plate, and you even gave a reason why, because the plate adds to the 住驻讬专讜转. These things that we put is 讻谞讙讚 the 注砖专 住驻讬专讜转. You have the three 诪爪讜转 is 讻谞讙讚 讞讻诪讛 讘讬谞讛 讚注转, and the other six things is 讞住讚 讙讘讜专讛 转驻讗专转 谞爪讞 讛讜讚 讬住讜讚, and the plate is 诪诇讻讜转. So if you don't have the plate, you're missing 诪诇讻讜转. So by the, in front of the 专讘讬, I guess there was a different reason that 讻讘讜讚, that's I don't know what the reason is not to do it, but 诇驻讜注诇, so we have a plate. So again, so we have a plate on the bottom, you push the regular normal big plate, on top of the plate you put the, the three 诪爪讜转, and top of the three, and a separation in between, on top of the 诪爪讜转 there has to be a cover, and on top of the cover we put all the different things. Now, which things do we put? So it says here that you put like this. By the way, the 专讘讬, when he would come to put, I saw, I happened to be once I would I would think so. I would think so because we don't add, anything, so it shouldn't be extra things, there is everything is 诪讚讜讬拽. 讘讻诇诇 we know that whatever is done by the 住讚专 is so 诪讚讜讬拽, 注诇 驻讬 谞讙诇讛, 注诇 驻讬 讞住讬讚讜转, 注诇 驻讬 拽讘诇讛, everything. So you mean the top is separate besides the cloth? And it's part of the cloth? I don't know, it doesn't say, but I I don't put it. A cloth, and on top of the cloth, I put all the different things. We have to make sure everything is dry. So sometimes I do that, really I try not to put a tissue under the 讞专讜住转 because it's wet, it's wet, so you try, but try not to, but sometimes you can, so if you don't put anything down, it's gonna get, the 诪爪讜转 will get wet. So that's a problem, so sometimes you put a tissue, a napkin, under the 讞专讜住转 just, so then I think 砖诐 讻诇讬, it's just, you know, a napkin, but if you put something substantial like a 讻诇讬 or something like that, that could be not. I don't know, I'm saying my own 住讘专讜转, I don't know. I don't know, but that's aluminum foil already, it's more. I don't know, could be, it is. I once happened to be by the 住讚专 by the 专讘讬, when the 专讘讬 put, made the 拽注专讛 like this, everyone went to make their own 住讚专讬诐, and everyone rushed and would come back, try to come to the 专讘讬's 住讚专 and see which, wherever, whatever you could catch. I once went so fast that I was able to come before the 专讘讬 came in yet. So when I came in, the 专讘讬 would, in a few minutes the 专讘讬 came in, so I even saw him make the 拽注专讛. He made the 拽注专讛 standing, and I heard that always you make the 拽注专讛, made the 拽注专讛 while standing. Not only that, before he made the 拽注专讛, he, before he put anything down, he would look in the 讛讙讚讛, and in the 讛讙讚讛 you have what the 讗诇讟注专 专讘讬 writes before each thing to do, he would say it. Like here it says: 讬住讚专 注诇 讛砖讜诇讞谉 讛拽注专讛 讘讙壮 诪爪讜转 诪讜谞讞讬诐 讝讛 注诇 讝讛, he would say these words, 讬住讚专 注诇 讛砖讜诇讞谉 讛拽注专讛 讘讙壮 诪... and he would put down the three 诪爪讜转. Then it says 注诇讬讜 诇讬诪讬谉 讛讝专讜注, on top of it, on the right side you put the 讝专讜注. He would say these words 注诇讬讜 诇讬诪讬谉 讛讝专讜注, and he put down the 讝专讜注. Then he would say 讻谞讙讚讜 诇砖诪讗诇 讛讘讬爪讛, on the side, the left side is the 讘讬爪讛, put down the egg, 转讞转讬讛诐 讘讗诪爪注 讛诪专讜专, in middle the 诪专讜专, he would say everything the way it says here. So you put the 讝专讜注 on the right side, the the the egg on the left side, in middle you put down the 诪专讜专, then under the 讝专讜注 is the 讞专讜住转, under the 讘讬爪讛 is the 讻专驻住, and under the 诪专讜专 is the 讞讝专转. The way we make it is three, one, two, and three, a second time one, two, and three, two 住讙讜诇讬诐. It looks like a 住讙讜诇. Also what we do is we put the whole 讻讝讬转 onto the 拽注专讛, unlike other people that put on the 拽注专讛 only a 讝讻专, 诇诪砖诇 when they're supposed to put the let the 诪专讜专, they take a little piece of lettuce and put it down, that's the 讝讻专 of the 诪专讜专, and the same thing by the 讞讝专转 later. 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is that we put a whole 讻讝讬转 on top of the 拽注专讛, and when we eat it, we eat it from the 拽注专讛, we eat the stuff from the 拽注专讛. And what do we put for 诪专讜专? So you could be 讬讜爪讗 诪专讜专 with lettuce, you can be 讬讜爪讗 your 诪专讜专 with the with horseradish, actually there are five 诪讬谞讬诐 that you could be 讬讜爪讗 诪专讜专. But it says 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is that we should use both, we should use lettuce and the 讞专讬讬谉, and the horseradish. Now, it doesn't say clearly how much of each, because 注诇 驻讬 讚讬谉, you could combine, half a 讻讝讬转 of one, half a 讻讝讬转 of the other, 诇驻讜注诇, doesn't say, it says we use both, doesn't say how much, it's looking What the 专讘讬 did, the 专讘讬 used a 讻讝讬转 of lettuce and a 讻讝讬转 of 讞专讬讬谉, and actually his 讻讝讬转讬诐 were very, very big. He made a lot of, you know, lettuce there, and he folded it, and in order to should stand, because it's very hard when you have these bunches of lettuce and it's very hard to hold, especially when you put the 讞专讬讬谉 on it, it should hold, it shouldn't fall. But he would work on it, and the 讞专讬讬谉, the horseradish, he would take from the plate that on the table, and he would take it in his hand, I saw myself, he took it in his hand and he squeezed out the liquid, 'cause it's 讬讜诐 讟讜讘. He squeezed out the liquid on the floor. I saw, on the floor, 'cause if it's on the floor, it goes 诇讗讬讘讜讚, it's allowed. So he would take it, squeeze out, and he made a pretty, pretty big ball. I mean, some say was the size of an egg. I don't think it was the size of an egg, I don't remember, it wasn't that big. But it was pretty big. Grated? Huh? Grated? Besides that, besides that, he put on top a piece that wasn't grated. It wasn't ground. And he said that this is something that he himself does. He says it doesn't He didn't see it by the 驻专讬注专讚讬拽注专 专讘讬. He says, \"I didn't see it by my father. It's my own 讞讬讚讜砖 that I want to do it.\" Now, to only use that, he said you wouldn't be 讬讜爪讗. If a person would only bite into horseradish, you wouldn't be 讬讜爪讗, because it has to be 讻讚专讱 讗讻讬诇转谉. It has to be something that's the way you eat it. No one eats bites in horseradish. Who eats 讘讻诇诇 horseradish just like that? But if you do, you grind it, but if not ground... But a little bit he he would put on and he and he would eat it. But he put on the whole 讻讝讬转 of a 讻讝讬转 of the lettuce, a 讻讝讬转 of 讞专讬讬谉 of horseradish for 诪专讜专, and the same thing exactly for the 讞讝专转. When he would put the egg down, I remember, I don't know, I remember that he would crack the egg so it should hold, because you know the egg rolls. Some people say that they remember he 讘讚讜讜拽讗 didn't. So, makes me a 砖讗诇讛. As far as I remember, I think he cracked it, and he put down the egg, so he put on the 讝专讜注. Now, the 讝专讜注, which we use, is not like many other people who use a wing of a chicken. We use the neck, and even that we take off most of the meat. All shouldn't look like the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞. So the 驻专讬注专讚讬拽注专 专讘讬 used to and the 专讘讬 also used to take off the meat from it and mostly was left bones. And he put that down, then he put down the egg, and he put on the 讞专讬讬谉 in the middle. Then for 讞专讜住转, the 讞专讜住转 was made of apples and nuts. It also says pears. No spices, even though it used to be made of spices, but because the 专讘讬 writes because 讞砖砖 讞诪抓, people who know, you can't know, you can't, so they stopped using spices. So we use these, and then you have wine. 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is that we do not add wine before. When we make the 讞专讜住转, we do not put in wine. The 讞专讜住转 is just made of these ingredients, but without the wine. Later on, when it comes to use the 讞专讜住转 for eating the 诪专讜专, what we do, this is what the 专讘讬 also did, he would take the 讞专讜住转 off the 拽注专讛, put it into the saucer of his wine, of of the 讻讜住, which automatically had some wine spilled out. That's how it would get the wine, and in that he would dip it, but he didn't make put wine in before. He didn't add wine to the 讞专讜住转 on the plate? No. No. He just put it in. Whatever wine was there, how much how big was the 讞专讜住转? A little bit of 讞专讜住转, and that's what he would put and then that's what he would use. And for that's what for 诪专讜专. For 讻讜专讱, he would not use that 讞专讜住转, because 讻讜专讱, you use 诪爪讛 also, and you don't want the 诪爪讛 to get wet. So for 讻讜专讱, he would take some of the dry 讞专讜住转, and just take it and touch onto the leaves, and just put it down, and not wet. 讻专驻住, it says you use an onion or you use potato. So once the 专讘讬 said, \"Potatoes are for the 讜讜讬讬讘注专.\" That's for the women. But 讘讻诇诇, the even when he writes in the 讛讙讚讛 you can use an onion or potatoes, he writes 讘爪诇 and in parentheses, 转驻讜讞 讗讚诪讛. This is like second second choice. Really, you should write use an onion. Now, the strange thing, the bad part is that when you take the onion, then that's it, you don't drink anything after that, and you don't eat. Your mouth feels the whole the whole 讛讙讚讛, your mouth feels a little bit, you know, with the onion, but have to. So you put the onion, and and and, and then 讞讝专转. How much lettuce is 讻讝讬转? Huh? How much lettuce? They have, if you want, they have these these these sheets that you could measure. 讻讝讬转 is a is an ounce. What, three leaves? Yeah, yeah, probably three leaves. But if you use the 讞专讬讬谉 also, so then you're certainly 讬讜爪讗, because even if you missed a little bit, but they combine, so it's no, so there's no question. How much 讞专讬讬谉 is that? Like a like a 讻讝讬转, a ball, a boy What can I tell you how big? They say that when they used to grind the the 讞专讬讬谉, usually we know that when you grind the 讞专讬讬谉 注专讘 驻住讞 You should cover it, so it should keep. They say in the 专讘讬's 讛讜讬祝, in the, up there they didn't cover it, they kept it open. So that's 讞讝专转, it wears off, so who says it has to be? Doesn't say it has to be like that. Okay, so this is when you make the, the 拽注专讛.
After you make the 拽注专讛, the 专讘讬 would read the 住讚专 of the 住讬诪谞讬诐: 拽讚砖, 讜专讞抓, 讻专驻住, 讬讞抓. He would say it to himself, quietly. He would say 拽讚砖, 讜专讞抓, he'd say the whole thing through before he would start the 住讚专. Now, besides doing that, every time you came to a certain part, he would say it again. 诇诪砖诇, before 讻专驻住, he would say 讻专驻住. And he'd also read the little line that the 讗诇讟注专 专讘讬 says what to do. But before that, he read this whole thing. And this is 注诇 驻讬 拽讘诇讛, it has all kinds of meanings 注诇 驻讬, oh well, 拽讚砖, 讜专讞抓, 讻专驻住, and it's has all kind, so he would say the whole thing. Okay. Afterwards, would fill up the cup, and the cup the 专讘讬 would, and this is our 诪谞讛讙, that we are not 诪拽驻讬讚 that someone else should do it. It says in 砖讜诇讞谉 注专讜讱 that it's a good idea that on 驻住讞 night someone else should pour your wine. 讘驻讜注诇, it says 讘驻讬专讜砖 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is we're not 讗讬谉 诪讚拽讚拽讬谉, we don't, we're not careful. And actually by the 专讘讬 also, he himself. The times I remember. They say that early, earlier years that someone did pour, and one year they got the two waiters got into a fight who should do it, he poured it himself. So that year, was it because of people at the table who had 讬讬谉 谞住讱? No, that's what was covered in a bag. The wine was covered in a bag and it stood on the floor next to the 专讘讬, on the floor. But one year, they got into a fight who should do it, and that year the 专讘讬 took the bottle himself and he poured it. From then on, every year the 专讘讬 poured himself the wine in into the the wine, didn't didn't, it's not other people should pour. And the 专讘讬 by the 驻专讬注专讚讬拽注专 专讘讬 he did the same way. But it once happened by the 驻专讬注专讚讬拽注专 专讘讬 someone poured him, so that's why the 专讘讬 writes, really the 专讘讬 wanted to write 讗讬谉 诪谞讛讙谞讜. The 诪谞讛讙 is not to have someone else pour. He didn't write it because it happened 讗址 诪讗指诇 by the 驻专讬注专讚讬拽注专 专讘讬 they did pour, so he wrote 讗讬谉 诪讚拽讚拽讬谉, we're not 诪讚拽讚拽 that they pour. So the 专讘讬 would pour pour his own cup in, and then he would make 拽讬讚讜砖. He'd stand up, make 拽讬讚讜砖. You make 拽讬讚讜砖 standing, obviously, during the day also. And then he would sit down to drink. So if I remember correctly, he would take he would hold the cup, as we know by 拽讬讚讜砖 we always hold the cup like this, you say that by 拽讬讚讜砖 is you take the cup, this is our 诪谞讛讙, you take the cup in your right hand, put it into your left hand, then you put it down on the palm of your hand, and your fingers are up and it goes like this, you make your hand into a 讻诇讬 拽讬讘讜诇, a 讻诇讬, and then that's where the cup is, that's how you make it. And then when he would finish, he would put it down, and he would do 讛住讘讛, he would take with the saucer, bend down with the saucer, and drink the whole cup down with one gulp. Like this, 讘讛诇讻讛 it says you should take, make, should when you drink a cup of wine you should always drink in two, in two gulps, in two drinks, because otherwise you look like a 讘注诇 讙讗讜讛, you look like a, a 讙专讙专谉, that's a, a glutton. And if you take, you do it in three, you look like a 讘注诇 讙讗讜讛, you do it in two. But this, he did the whole thing down 讘讘转 讗讞转, and he took the whole thing till the bottom. Normally, you're allowed to, you're 讬讜爪讗 with 专讜讘 讻讜住. In this case, it says you should do, drink the whole wine, he would drink the whole wine down the whole thing. What about 诪讘讜砖诇? Now, 讘讻诇诇 when you're talking about 诪讘讜砖诇, it's like this: it is a 讛讬讚讜专 always not to use wine 诪讘讜砖诇, 讬讬谉 诪讘讜砖诇. There is a 讚注讛 that you're not 讬讜爪讗 拽讬讚讜砖 with cooked wine. Why? Because you have to use wine that was 专讗讜讬 诇诪讝讘讞, it could fit to the 诪讝讘讞. If you cook the wine, it's not fit for the 诪讝讘讞. 诪诪讬诇讗, so but during the year, we're not so 诪拽驻讬讚. When it comes to 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转, since it's a special 诪爪讜讛 of 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转, and it says it in every See, other times you have to make 拽讬讚讜砖, if you if you don't have wine, you make 拽讬讚讜砖 on 讞诇讛. 驻住讞 night, there is no such thing. 驻住讞 night you have to, we drink the 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转, and it says even a person who's poor has to drink the 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转. So therefore, it's more 讞诪讜专. It's more 讞诪讜专, so we try to go so we try to have 讬讬谉, wine, to get the wine that's not 诪讘讜砖诇. I'm just suggesting that if you have people at your table, if you have a 讙讜讬, which is a whole 砖讗诇讛 if you're allowed to have a, but you have a 讙讜讬 certainly, but even if you have non-驻专讜诐 people. So, we we look at non-驻专讜诐 people, we they come to 砖讜诇, we give them 注诇讬讜转, we we count them in a 诪谞讬谉, even though 注诇 驻讬 讚讬谉 a person is a 诪讞诇诇 砖讘转, you can't give him an 注诇讬讛, you can't count for a 诪谞讬谉, he's like a 讙讜讬 诇讻诇 讚讘专. We don't follow that, why? Because we know most of the people are 转讬谞讜拽讜转 砖谞砖讘讜, they're people that don't know any better, so it's not their fault. But that's only when it comes for them. We don't do anything to them that should like like because it's cuz discriminate against them because we consider them like heathen. But anything that's for us, why shouldn't we be 诪讞诪讬专? So why should we have wine that a person like that touched, or even a person like that saw? So therefore, really it's 讻讚讗讬 to have wine that's not 诪讘讜砖诇 for the 住讚专. But if you know you're going to have 驻专讬讬注 people by the 住讚专, I'm just suggesting that you should have 诪讘讜砖诇, and you won't be 诪讞诪讬专 with this 讞讜诪专讗, but you'll be 诪讞诪讬专 the other 讞讜诪专讗 that you won't have any 砖讗诇讜转 with the wine. Because if a person is not a 砖讜诪专 砖讘转 touches the wine you're not allowed to drink, huh? Oh, you have maids? Okay, so then that, I think, is not a good reason. You should have the maids away and they shouldn't come in, but if you can't help it, then yeah. But not only touching, even looking. If a 讙讜讬 looks at the wine that's not 诪讘讜砖诇, you're allowed to drink it, but we don't make 讻讜住 砖诇 讘专讻讛 on it, we don't make 拽讬讚讜砖 on it, we don't use it for 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转. So it could be that you will not you won't touch it, but he'll see it. Besides another thing, when you pour the wine into his cup, if someone will pour into his cup, if, let's say, it be a 讙讜讬 would be holding the cup in his hand and you pour the wine from the bottle into his cup, the whole bottle becomes 讟专祝, 讗住讜专, because 谞讬爪讜拽 讞讬讘讜专. It says 诇讙讘讬 讬讬谉 谞住讱, 谞讬爪讜拽 the flow is a 讞讬讘讜专. It says 讛谞讬爪讜拽 讜讛拽讟驻专住 讗讬谞讜 讞讬讘讜专 诇讗 诇讟讜诪讗讛 讜诇讗 诇讟讛专讛. By 诪拽讜讜讗讜转, it's not called a connection, by 讟讜诪讗讛 it's not called a connection, but by 讬讬谉 谞住讱 it is called, and therefore the whole wine that the whole bottle would become 讬讬谉 谞住讱. First of all, it's sealed. If it's sealed, there's no problem. The bottle had two seals, and if the box is sealed and the bottle sealed, 讗讜讜讚讗讬. But even if it's not, they consider the bottle they see they consider the bottle that's sealed has two seals. One is the sealed and the other one is the the the cover, so it's considered like two seals, yeah. And if it's two seals, that's not a problem. There was a story, they once asked someone asked a 专讘, so it got it was a not a 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专, but a 讗讜谞讙讗专讬砖注专 专讘. Someone asked him that by 驻讗专讘专注谞讙注谉, the 专讘讬 used to give 讻讜住 砖诇 讘专讻讛, and know how many people went by, how many 驻专讬讬注 people went by, and the 专讘讬 poured wine from his 讘注讻注专 into their cup. No, it wasn't 诪讘讜砖诇, I mean. So, how was it? Okay, so this Hungarian 专讘, I think it was said the 住讗讟诪讗专 said, \"You can't bring a 专讗讬讛 from there, because I guarantee you that any 讗讬讚 who walked by the 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专 专讘讬 讘砖注转 诪注砖讛, he had a 讛专讛讜专 转砖讜讘讛. Standing in front of the 专讘讬, he definitely did 转砖讜讘讛, 诪诪讬诇讗, so he lost the the status of being...\" Huh? No, if he holds it in his hand, the moment the wine that comes into his hand that he's holding, this wine is 谞讜讙注 already. And since there is a flow, so when it came some of it came into his hand, it connects the wine to the bottle, so the whole wine to the bottle. Yeah, it's nothing to do with he drink, even before he drink, just holding in his hand, just moving it, that's what makes it 讗住讜专. Okay, look, 讘讚讬注讘讚 probably you wouldn't say it's 讗住讜专 because we 转讬谞讜拽 砖谞砖讘讛, they don't know any better. But that's only 讘讚讬注讘讚 and that's only 诇讻转讞讬诇讛, why should you do that? But if you don't have that, then it's 讻讚讗讬 to have wine that's not 诪讘讜砖诇. Now, 讘讻诇诇 this the 住讚专 of normal that had nothing to do with 驻住讞, but when we make 拽讬讚讜砖, we know that before we say the 讘专讻讛 of 拽讬讚讜砖, we look have to look at the candles that's burning, and when we say 讘讜专讗 驻专讬 讛讙驻谉, we look at the wine. Okay. After 拽讬讚讜砖, this is 拽讚砖. 讘讻诇诇, the 诪谞讛讙 in the houses is that you ask one of the children to, just before you start 拽讬讚讜砖, let's say, ask children what's now. The first thing is 拽讚砖, and you want expect them to say what you're supposed to do by 拽讚砖, and then you say it yourself. And then after 拽讚砖 comes 讜专讞抓. So 讜专讞抓 you wash your hands, and you don't make a 讘专讻讛. Now, by the 专讘讬 also, he walked out himself to wash, no one brought him the water. Like this the 住讚专 is that, you know, the head of the household, you know, they bring the water, which we do in my house also, just for I don't know, like it's a kid started. He once asked, \"Why must you bring it? Bring it!\" But because it doesn't say that it's not our 诪谞讛讙, it's just by the 专讘讬, the 专讘讬 would get up and went to the sink and washed himself. You have to wash and not to forget not to make a 讘专讻讛! Because if you make a 讘专讻讛, you'll have a lot of trouble. If you make a 讘专讻讛, there's a big 住讘专讗 that you have to eat a 讻讝讬转 诪爪讛 right then, otherwise it's a 讘专讻讛 诇讘讟诇讛, and you have to be 诪讘诇讘诇 make mix up the whole 住讚专. So you have to make sure to not make a 讘专讻讛, but you wash regular like you wash for the regular meal, you wash you wash. And the 专讘讬 before he would wash, like I said he said every piece before, so before 讜专讞抓 he would say 讜专讞抓 and 讻专驻住, because he didn't want to be 诪驻住讬拽 in between the washing and eating of the 讻专驻住. Even though we don't make the 讘专讻讛, so some people think that if you don't make the 讘专讻讛, 诪诪讬诇讗 you're allowed to talk. By regular washing if you talk it's a big problem, if you talk between the washing and let's say the bread that you eat. You have to wash over, without a 讘专讻讛. Here, you wouldn't have to wash over, but 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 you shouldn't talk, so not to say the... if you want to leave... if you would leave the 讻专驻住 to say later, would be a 讛驻住拽. So you'd say 讜专讞抓, 讻专驻住, then he would go to wash, and he would come, take the onion off the plate, off the 拽注专讛, if they take the... off the 拽注专讛, and he would first put some salt, and I don't know, I don't do that, but those that want to do it exactly what the 专讘讬 did, put some salt into the salt water before, and then dip three times, that we do, we dip it three times into the salt water. And the reason is three times, because any time we do anything that we have to do to make it a 讞讝拽讛, we do three times, like the 讞诇讛 during the year when we dip into salt, we dip three times, so he would dip the onion three times, and make a 讘讜专讗 驻专讬 讛讗讚诪讛, and it says you have to be 诪讻讜讜谉 that this should also go for the 诪专讜专 that you're going to eat in the 住注讜讚讛 later. And you don't eat a 讻讝讬转, make sure not to eat a 讻讝讬转, because if you eat a 讻讝讬转, goes into a 砖讗诇讛, you might have to make a 讘专讻讛 讗讞专讜谞讛. So therefore, not to go out of 砖讗诇讛, so you don't eat a 讻讝讬转 at all. Okay. When the 专讘讬 was putting the salt, there wasn't salt in it before? It was, no, it was salty. It was salt water. He just added salt. He just added salt before he did it, yeah. Okay, that's 讻专驻住. Obviously when you have a family you give each one you can't give each one from yours because it's not big enough, so there is a plate on the table and take it. Just by the way, I wanted to mention before I forget it, it doesn't say here anywhere and I didn't see it anywhere 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚, but I... it's written, but I think this is our 诪谞讛讙. Like, I always said it, but some people said they didn't know about this, so I was starting to get questioned, but I think this is our 诪谞讛讙 that if you have little children who are not sitting by the 住讚专, you should put a cup of wine for them on the table. Let's say you have a a baby in the crib, you should have for him a a 讻讜住. And later you pour it back into the bottle. So there should be some connection. Should be so it should be... That's what that's what they did in my house always, and I heard that that's what they did in 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖, but 讘驻专讟, a lot of people I spoke to said they they don't know about this. So I don't know. And it doesn't say in the in the 住驻专 讛诪谞讛讙讬诐, it doesn't say in the 讛讙讚讛, it doesn't say anywhere. One cup in the beginning until the end of the 住讚专? You turn so and also when it comes to the 诪讻讜转, you pour out from theirs also, so if you have two children you put two cups. It just... It says here that in the 讻讜住 the 专讘讬 used to pour a few times, five six times, take a little and what they mean is, I don't I don't remember, I didn't see that, I don't remember, that he would not pour once till the end, he would pour and then fill it up with a few times pouring, slowly. But I don't I don't remember that, that's could be. And also, whenever he poured he filled it up till the top, and what's called till the top, it overflows. And he once told in a 驻讗专讘专讬讬谞讙注谉 that when some people are always afraid it will go, so they always fill it up as a little bit left. It has to be a 讻讜住 诪诇讗, all the 讻讜住讜转 have to be a 讻讜住 诪诇讗, has to be a full cup. And a full cup means till the top, and how are you sure that it goes till the top? If it overflows. So you should do it all the way, it should overflow. Okay.
After 讜专讞抓, 讻专驻住, then goes 讬讞抓. 讬讞抓 is that we break the middle 诪爪讛. We break the middle 诪爪讛, so the 诪谞讛讙 that we have is that we break the middle 诪爪讛 inside. It's a hard job. In the 拽注专讛. Because you put the hand into the 拽注专讛, and while your hands are inside and the 拽注专讛 is covered, you break the 诪爪讛 inside. And take out the the smaller piece you leave, the bigger piece you take out, and you break it, it's 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, and the 诪谞讛讙 is that we break the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 into five pieces. It's to be 诪诪转拽, it's 讛壮 讞住讚讬诐, 诪诪转拽 the 讛壮 讙讘讜专讜转, it's all kinds of 注谞讬谞讬诐 注诇 驻讬 拽讘诇讛. And the 专讘讬 writes that the 专讘讬 讛专砖状讘 once by mistake it turned out that it was six pieces, he put the sixth piece away, didn't want to use it, and he kept the five. So we break it to five. I don't know if he broke the five also under the thing, I don't know I don't know. But 注讻状驻, it's a hard job 讘讻诇诇 to break it inside because the 拽注专讛, if you pick up the 拽注专讛 when you the whole thing falls off, so you got to be careful. But we break it inside, and then we put it away. The way it is, you put it away between your pillows. And there is a 讚讬讜拽 it should be between the pillows, not under the pillows. Should be between the pillows. Everybody 讘讻诇诇 has a 诪谞讛讙 that the children steal the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉. In 讞讘状讚 is that the children don't steal it. And 讗讬讬, the children lose out, so some people have a 诪谞讛讙 that they tell the children they don't don't steal, but give you a present anyway, or you give it. Yeah, you give him a present, or you could even give him for 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, but not for stealing. The 专讘讬 even brings a 诇砖讜谉 讛讙诪专讗 where it says if a person steals, even if you steal in a joking way, you get the 讟注诐 of stealing, and we don't want a child to have that taste of stealing. Give a present for not stealing. Give a present for not stealing, yeah. Very good. Good, so that's good. Okay. That means that you, yeah, to show him that you can't steal. Give him a present for not stealing. But the seder developed it that he doesn't give it back. When it comes to the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, the child doesn't give it back until you promise. But the famous story with 专' 讬讛讜谞转谉 讗讬讬讘砖讬抓. When 专' 讬讛讜谞转谉 讗讬讬讘砖讬抓 was a child, so he stole the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, and when it came to to give back gifts, so he wanted something. His father said, \"I can't give it to you,\" but he said, \"I'm not giving you the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉,\" so his father promised him. Father promised him, and then when father took the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 and was giving out to everybody, when it came to him, he says, \"I'm not giving you a piece until you take back what I gave you.\" So he says, \"Haha! I kept the piece for myself!\" He kept the piece before, he knew his father would do it! \"I kept the piece from before.\" And keep it in between the pillows, about the second 讻讜住 you're going to break it? No, why will break it? Yeah, yeah, don't throw it way too hard, yeah. Break it before, if you have ten kids you break it to ten. No, it does, it should be five. What we said, it should be the whole time should be five pieces for the. You don't give it out anyway. See, you can't, you eat it yourself. All you have is a half a 诪爪讛. A half a 诪爪讛 is a 讻讝讬转. You have to eat a 讻讝讬转 for the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉. So what could you give to others? So the all the whole family, what you do is you give from the bag that you have, from the other 诪爪讛. You should take a little bit from your 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 and add just as a 讝讻专. But you can't give from your 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉. See, some people have, I already don't call it a 诪谞讛讙, that they give out to the children, to the to the to the wife, they give out little pieces. They're 诪讞讜讬讬讘 to eat the same, a woman is 诪讞讜讬讬讘 in the same 诪爪讜讛 of all the 注谞讬谞讬诐 of 驻住讞 like the man. No difference. The man has to eat a 讻讝讬转 and she has to eat a 讻讝讬转. So you can't be 讬讜爪讗 giving them a small piece. And all you have 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 is a 讻讝讬转. A 讻讝讬转 is a half a 诪爪讛. The half is a half a 诪爪讛. How many 讻讝讬转讬诐 we have to eat? Yeah, we'll get to it when we get to eat, I'll explain how much it, it'll be pretty a lot. Anyway, so you'll eat it yourself, so so it could break, but if you put it away it's five. Okay. After 讬讞抓.
Okay, in the 讛讙讚讛 it says you pick up the the the the 拽注专讛, but we don't pick up the 拽注专讛. What we do is, when it comes to 诪讙讬讚, we uncover the 诪爪讛. And the 专讘讬 would like at one corner uncover the 诪爪讛, and I think we always uncover the cloth and put the egg on it, so the 诪爪讛 is is seen. Now I, they say, I don't remember, they say that he made sure that all three 诪爪讜转 should be revealed, that when you could see all three. I don't remember that, but 注诇 讻诇 驻谞讬诐 you have to reveal the 诪爪讛 when you start the 讛讙讚讛. And then you say 讛讗 诇讞诪讗 注谞讬讗, and after you finish 讛讗 诇讞诪讗 注谞讬讗, then comes to 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛. It says 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛 you push away the 拽注专讛, so the 专讘讬 would push the 拽注专讛 a little bit away. The 拽注专讛 is bigger than the 诪爪讜转 itself? Huh? The 拽注专讛 is bigger than the 诪爪讜转? No, usually not. It's just underneath. Underneath. It's smaller, usually it's smaller, usually it's smaller. You could get a bigger plate, it's not. You could, yeah, there's no, no problem, no problem. So here you would, you cover the 诪爪讛 again and you pour the second 讻讜住 and here starts with the 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛. The 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛 was said, usually the seders it is said by the houses by the youngest child, but the 诪谞讛讙 in many places is that all the children say the 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛 one after another with the same beginning and end, 讟讗讟注 讗讬讱 讜讜注诇 讚讬专 驻专注讙谉 驻讬专 拽砖讬讜转, and they translate everything into Yiddish. And then the 专讘讬 himself would also say the 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛 with the same 谞讜住讞, 讟讗讟注 讗讬讱 讜讜注诇 讚讬专 驻专注讙谉 驻讬专 拽砖讬讜转, 诪讛 谞砖转谞讛 讛诇讬诇讛 讛讝讛, and he would say in Yiddish the whole thing. Translating to Yiddish. Okay, then afterwards the 拽注专讛 is pushed back a little bit which which was pushed away, you open up again uncover the 诪爪讛, and then you start with 注讘讚讬诐 讛讬讬谞讜. And then you go with 注讘讚讬诐 讛讬讬谞讜 with the 讛讙讚讛 straight till you come to 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛. You come to 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛, so what it is, you cover the 诪爪讛 again because since you're going to pick up the cup now, we don't want that the the 诪爪讛 should be like embarrassed, so you cover the 诪爪讛 and you pick up the cup. Every time you pick up the cup, many people when they pick up the cup for any reason, they pick it up like this. By us the 诪谞讛讙 is that every time you pick up the cup, you pick it up the same way. The same way that you do by 拽讬讚讜砖, you do it like like this, like this, and you do... and so you pick up the cup and you say 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛. 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛 here and the one you're having is a big 砖诪讞讛, I think. It's after, yeah, I'm just went through the whole 讛讙讚讛 is just, I would say, huh? By the 专讘讬 they didn't sing it, but we sing it. After 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛, you put the cup down, you uncover the 诪爪讛 again, and you continue with the 讛讙讚讛. You go all the way through the 讛讙讚讛 till you come to, it says here, 讬讚 讞讝拽讛 till 讚诐 讜讗砖 讜转诪专讜转 注砖谉. 讚诐 讜讗砖 讜转诪专讜转 注砖谉, it says in the 住讬讚讜专, the 讗诇讟专 专讘讬 says certain 讻讜讜谞讜转 that you have to have. Now, 讘讻诇诇 the 讗诇讟专 专讘讬 in the 住讬讚讜专 wrote everything 注诇 驻讬 the 讻讜讜谞讜转 of the 讗专讬讝状诇, but he didn't write the 讻讜讜谞讜转 in because it was made for people not the, for everybody. Those people that can't have, 诪讻讜讜谉 the 讻讜讜谞讜转, but whatever he did write, you have to 诪讻讜讜谉. And this is one of the exceptions where the 讗诇讟专 专讘讬 wrote what you have to be 诪讻讜讜谉. So, it says here what you have to be 诪讻讜讜谉: it says you have to be 诪讻讜讜谉 that the 讻讜住 is 诪诇讻讜转, and you're pouring from the wine which has the 住讜讚 of the 讗祝 讜讝注诐 into, and you take 讻讞 讛讘讬谞讛 into a broken 讻诇讬 which is 拽诇讬驻讛, and by that you're getting rid of the 拽诇讬驻讛. And it says you should do it in a broken 讻诇讬. So, I remember by the 专讘讬 it used to be, they used to bring a 讻诇讬 inside to to the 住讚专, a a plate, a a bowl, and it was a broken bowl. A real bowl, broken. No, no, a real one, and it was put down on the floor, and he would pour the on the floor. So, number one, our 诪谞讛讙 is not like others who put the finger in and 砖驻专讬抓. We don't do that. We pour out from the cup. But the 专讘讬 used to pour, but everyone else didn't do it on the floor. So, you have to pour out 讚诐 讜讗砖 讜转诪专讜转 注砖谉 and you put the cup down. Then they say 讚讘专 讗讞专 till you come, they look at 注砖专 诪讻讜转, and you pour out 讚诐, 爪驻专讚注, you go to the 注砖专 诪讻讜转, and then, again, if I remember correctly, by the words 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讛讬讛 谞讜转谉 讘讛诐 住讬诪谞讬诐 he would put it down, pick it up again, 讚爪状讱 注讚状砖 讘讗讞状讘, would pour. And then everybody would, whatever everybody pours into their own, you gather it all together in one place and then you take that wine out. And then you add wine to the 讻讜住 right here so the wine, the cup should be full, and you fill up the 讻讜住. No, when you pour you pour like this. When you pour, you hold like this. Everyone? Huh? No, I don't I don't see anybody using a broken vessel. Certainly you shouldn't break a vessel for that. So, if you have one, it's fine. If you don't, it's in my house we don't use a broken vessel, because I don't have a broken vessel, and it doesn't say anywhere that you have to break it. I bring a bowl, a regular big bowl, and I pour it in there. And then everyone else at the table pours into their own saucer, and then this bowl goes around, and everyone empties their saucer, this this this into this, huh? It could be chipped. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it doesn't mean broken, otherwise it it won't hold, chipped, and everyone pours it in and then you take it out. Then you go further, and by the time you come to 讚讬讬谞讜, our 诪谞讛讙 is that every other time you could talk in the middle, by 讚讬讬谞讜's from 讻诪讛 诪注诇讜转 讟讜讘讜转 诇诪拽讜诐 注诇讬谞讜, you don't talk, you're not 诪驻住讬拽 between these 讚讬讬谞讜's. And then you go until 专讘谉 讙诪诇讬讗诇 讛讬讛 讗讜诪专: 讻诇 砖诇讗 讗诪专 砖诇讜砖讛 讚讘专讬诐 讗诇讜 讘驻住讞, 诇讗 讬爪讗 讬讚讬 讞讜讘转讜, 讜讗诇讜 讛谉: 驻住讞, 诪爪讛, 讜诪专讜专. So, again, what the 专讘讬 used to do when he said, \"驻住讞, 诪爪讛, 讜诪专讜专\", when he said the word 诪爪讛, he would look at the 诪爪讛. When he said the word 诪专讜专, he would look at the 诪专讜专. Then 驻住讞 注诇 砖讜诐 诪讛, the same thing, and then it says 诪爪讛 讝讜 砖讗谞讜 讗讜讻诇讬诐, then we say 诪专讜专 讝讛. So, 诪爪讛 讝讜 砖讗谞讜 讗讜讻诇讬诐, the 专讘讬 would put his hands under the thing and hold the the top, the second and the third 诪爪讛, and would say 诪爪讛 讝讜 砖讗谞讜 讗讜讻诇讬诐 注诇 砖讜诐 诪讛? 注诇 砖讜诐, and then he would take off his hands. When it came to 诪专讜专 讝讛 砖讗谞讜 讗讜讻诇讬诐 注诇 砖讜诐 诪讛? 注诇 砖讜诐 砖诪专专讜, he would hold like this: with his right hand he would hold the the 诪专讜专, with his left hand, he would hold the 讞讝专转. Yeah, but the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 is not there, the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 the second, the half, no, the half that's that's left. The 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 we took away, but the second that's left, he would hold those two. And when he came to 诪专讜专, 诪专讜专 讝讛, he would hold like this, 诪专讜专 讝讛 砖讗谞讜 讗讜讻诇讬诐 注诇 砖讜诐 诪讛? 注诇 砖讜诐, and then he would take off his hands when you say 注诇 砖讜诐, till you finish 讘讻诇 讚讜专 讜讚讜专. And then you get to 诇驻讬讻讱 讗谞讞谞讜 讞讬讬讘讬诐. Now, here it says that by 诇驻讬讻讱 讗谞讞谞讜 讞讬讬讘讬诐, you cover up the 诪爪讛 and you pick up the cup till after the 讘专讻讛, but that's not the 诪谞讛讙 that we do, even though the 讗诇讟专 专讘讬 says that. The 诪谞讛讙 is different. You cover up you cover the 诪爪讛, you pick up the 讻讜住, hold like this, from 诇驻讬讻讱 for one paragraph. 诇驻讬讻讱 讗谞讞谞讜 讞讬讬讘讬诐, till you come to the end, 诪讗驻诇讛 诇讗讜专 讙讚讜诇 讜诪砖注讘讜讚 诇讙讗讜诇讛 讜谞讗诪专 诇驻谞讬讜 讛诇诇讜讬讛, and you put it down. Then you say the first two chapters of 讛诇诇: 讛诇诇讜讬讛 讛诇诇讜 注讘讚讬 讛壮 and 讘爪讗转 讬砖专讗诇, without holding the 讻讜住. Then you pick up the cup again when it comes to the 讘专讻讛, 讗砖专 讙讗诇谞讜 讜讙讗诇 讗转 讗讘讜转讬谞讜. You pick it up again, and you hold it. And you would say this 讘专讻讛 till till the end, and then you say 讛讙驻谉 and you do you drink it 讘讛住讘讛. You pick it up at 讘专讜讱 讗转讛? You pick it up at 讘专讜讱 讗转讛 again. You pick it up at 诇驻讬讻讱 for one paragraph and then by the 讘专讻讛 again at 讗砖专 讙讗诇谞讜. But it doesn't say that in the 专诪讘状诐. It says in the 专讘讬's 驻讬专讜砖, it doesn't say In the 讛讙讚讛 itself, it says different. It says here, 讗讜讞讝讛 讘讬讚讜 注讚 住讬讜诐 讘专讻转 讗砖专 讙讗诇谞讜. But 诇驻讜注诇, that's not the 诪谞讛讙. The 诪谞讛讙 is after I don't know what changed and why, could be 注诇 驻讬 拽讘诇讛, that we just for one paragraph, and then by 讛诇诇 we don't hold it, and then we hold it again by the 讘专讻讛 讗砖专 讙讗诇谞讜. Did the 专讘讬 still read the 诇砖讜谉 of the 讗诇讟专 专讘讬 even if Yeah, yeah. He would read everything, he would read the 诇砖讜谉 of the 讗诇讟专 专讘讬. And not do it. Only once. Just only once, you know. Yeah. Some places, because also by 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛, the 诇砖讜谉 is also different than we do. By 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛, it says, 爪专讬讱 诇讛讙讘讬讛 讛讻讜住 讜诇讻住讜转 讛驻转, 讛驻转. You pick up the cup and you cover the 驻转. Our 诪谞讛讙 is the opposite. We first close the 驻转, cover up the 驻转, and then we pick up the 讻讜住. So, it's not the same 住讚专. But this is Also, by they by the 讛讗 诇讞诪讗. By 讛讗 诇讞诪讗 注谞讬讗, it says, 诪讙讘讬讛 讛拽注专讛, that you should pick up the 拽注专讛. We don't pick up the 拽注专讛. The 讗诇讟专 专讘讬 says you pick it up. So, certain things that we don't do.
Okay, then, afterwards comes to 专讞爪讛. You were talking about 讛讗 诇讞诪讗 注谞讬讗, what was the mention that You'd say 讛讗, we're the only ones who say 讛讗, the 诪转拽谉 with 讬讜住祝 讛讗 诇讻诐 讝专注, how does that 诪转拽谉? How are we, how was 诪转拽谉? How are we 诪转拽谉 what 讬讜住祝 讛爪讚讬拽 said, 讛讗 诇讻诐 讝专注? How does our saying 讛讗 诇讞诪讗 注谞讬讗 诪转拽谉 what 讬讜住祝 said? Well, the way it seemed, this the the the 讛讗专状讬 讝状诇 writes that, and the 谞拽讜讚讛 Well, the 谞拽讜讚讛 is, 讛讗 诇讻诐 讝专注, it says, what was the problem with 讛讗 诇讻诐 讝专注? That he gave 讛砖驻注讛 to 拽诇讬驻讛, to 诪爪专讬诐, that's help, giving 讞讬讜转 to 诪爪专讬诐. By us eating this 诪爪讛, we're taking out, we're we're being 诪讘专专 the 拽诇讬驻讛 of 诪爪专讬诐. That's what it is. So, by doing this, we're 诪讘专专, this is the whole idea of 讬爪讬讗转 诪爪专讬诐 is, we're 诪讘专专 the 拽诇讬驻讛 of 诪爪专讬诐. So, we're saying 讛讗 诇讞诪讗 注谞讬讗, this is against what 讬讜住祝 did to give 讞讬讜转 to 诪爪专讬诐. Okay, 专讞爪讛, we wash and this time we do make a 讘专讻讛 on 谞讟讬诇转 讬讚讬诐. And the 专讘讬 before he would wash, he would say 专讞爪讛, 诪讜爪讬讗, 诪爪讛, 诪专讜专, and 讻讜专讱, everything that it says there. So, we wash our hands, and then comes to 诪讜爪讬讗 诪爪讛. So, 住讚专 is like this. When you say 诪讜爪讬讗, you make 讛诪讜爪讬讗, you put your hands in and you hold all three 诪爪讜转, and you make 讛诪讜爪讬讗. And the reason you hold all three 诪爪讜转 is because you have to have 诇讞诐 诪砖谞讛. For 讛诪讜爪讬讗, you have to have 诇讞诐 诪砖谞讛. If you're going to hold only the first two 诇诪砖诇 or the bottom two, you're holding a half a 诪爪讛. So, you have to have both, all three. When it comes to the 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 诪爪讛, 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 诪爪讛 is already when you eat the 诪爪讛 on which you said the 讛讙讚讛. 诇讞诐 注讜谞讬 means poor man's bread, and a poor man's bread means a broken piece. Poor people don't have 砖诇诪讜转, they have broken pieces. Plus the word 注讜谞讬 also means 砖注讜谞讬谉 注诇讬讜 讚讘专讬诐 讛专讘讛, we say a lot of things. So, saying the 讛讙讚讛. So, we say that we eat the 诪爪讛 on over which we said the 讛讙讚讛. So, that is the broken piece of 诪爪讛. So, when it comes to 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 诪爪讛, we drop the bottom 诪爪讛, and we just hold the top two, and we make, we say 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 诪爪讛. By the way, the reason we have three 诪爪讜转, why do we have three? Because we need two whole ones for 诇讞诐 诪砖谞讛, we need one broken because of 诇讞诐 注讜谞讬, so there's no other way. So, you have to have two whole ones, and then the third one to break. That's what we have. Actually, the 住讚专 of the 讛讙专状讗 is that they only have two 诪爪讜转. And people who follow the 诪谞讛讙 讛讙专状讗, I once spoke to somebody, he says they don't even know how to do it. They don't know exactly what to do with the 诪爪讛, where how But anyway, but most of the world didn't accept it. Unless those people, 诪诪砖 who follow a 诪谞讛讙 讛讙专状讗, but everybody has three 诪爪讜转. And this is what So, when you make 讛诪讜爪讬讗, we hold all three. We let go of the third and we hold the top two, and we make 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 诪爪讛. I just want to suggest that when it comes to giving to the other members of the family, so what are you going to do now? There are a few few choices which is all a problem. There's two choices: you could make that 讛诪讜爪讬讗 诪爪讛, eat your 诪爪讛, let them all sit and wait, and when you finish, You'll go and give them. That's a problem. Why? Because if they wait, it's a 讛驻住拽 from they have to wash when you wash, because if you want to be they want to be 讬讜爪讗 your 诇讞诐 诪砖谞讛, they have to have washed. So they have to wash when you wash. Now, you're going to eat this 诪爪讛, takes a while to eat 诪爪讛. They're going to be waiting. 讗诇讗 诪讗讬? You have another 注爪讛. Make 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 make the 讘专讻讛, then give them, and then sit down to eat. Then there'll be a 讛驻住拽 by you. So what do you do? So the best 注爪讛 is that before you wash, take out from the box of whatever it is, enough 诪爪讛 to give out to everyone their 讻讝讬转. So they have their 讻讝讬转 of 诪爪讛, and when you make the 讛诪讜爪讬讗 and 注诇 讗讻讬诇转 诪爪讛, they also make and they can sit down and eat. And while you're doing that, you could pass around if you want to give each one a little bit from your 诪爪讛. Now how much 诪爪讛 do you have to eat? The 讚讬谉 is like, the 砖讗诇讛 here there's a 砖讗诇讛 here. There's a question, which the 讻讝讬转 of 诪爪讛 that he eats, from which one should he eat? Should he eat from the middle 诪爪讛 or should he eat from the top 诪爪讛? And because of that, the 诪谞讛讙 is that we eat from both. So here you have to eat two 讻讝讬转讬诐. You have to eat a 讻讝讬转 from the top and a 讻讝讬转 from the bottom. That means the bottom means the middle one, which is a 讻讝讬转 to begin with, because it's half. You think half means exactly half? If you if you break by the case of the 讬讞抓, and you broke it, and the big one is very big, and the small one is very small, take a piece back. Take away from the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉. Take if let's say if it breaks three-quarters and a quarter, take off another piece and add it to here, so you'll have it for later, because you have to have a 讻讝讬转 here. So you have to have a 讻讝讬转 from the from the top 诪爪讛, which is a half of the 诪爪讛 you break the half of the 诪爪讛, a 讻讝讬转 from the middle 诪爪讛, and you eat it together. And it says you have to eat it together, put it in your mouth together. And you have to eat both 讻讝讬转讬诐 讘讻讚讬 讗讻讬诇转 驻专住. Has to be eaten within the 砖讬注讜专 of time of 讗讻讬诇转 驻专住, which is different 砖讬讟讜转. Six minutes, seven minutes, nine minutes, there's even a 砖讬讟讛 up to 11 minutes. But you have to eat it. I once I told that, I once saw the 专讘讬 by the 住讚专. The 专讘讬 didn't have any teeth, so he couldn't eat. The hardest thing to eat for him to eat was the 诪爪讛. I once saw it took him three-quarters of an hour to eat 讻讝讬转 诪爪讛. But 诇讻讗讜专讛 it's more than 讗讻讬诇转 驻专住. So I noticed that he took It was very hard for him to chew. So he was chewing, chewing, but he didn't swallow. He chewed and then chewed more and chewed more, and then he swallowed the whole thing. So he swallowed the 讻讝讬转 讘讘转 讗讞转, or both 讻讝讬转讬诐. But we have to take both 讻讝讬转讬诐 in. And the rest of the people in the family don't have to have two 讻讝讬转讬诐, cuz by them it's only a 讻讝讬转 诪爪讛. They have They don't have the 诪爪讛 from the 拽注专讛 anyway. It's only the one that has the 拽注专讛. So should he have the top 诪爪讛, should he have the middle 诪爪讛, so you have a 砖讗诇讛. So you have to have both. But there, they only need a 讻讝讬转 诪爪讛, so that's all. You give them a 讻讝讬转 诪爪讛 and they'll be But they have to have a 讻讝讬转. You can't say, well, have 专讞诪谞讜转. There's no 专讞诪谞讜转 here. Two 讻讝讬转讬诐, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. I'm saying it's a big mix-up. You have to be careful. You could rely on a little longer 砖讬讟讛, yeah, but but not more than that. Yeah. Yeah, that's also. 诪谞讛讙 讞讘状讚 is that we don't wear a 拽讬讟诇. We only wear a 拽讬讟诇 once a year. That's 讬讜诐 讻讬驻讜专. Therefore, a 讞转谉 who got married that year doesn't wear it 讬讜诐 讻讬驻讜专 either, because he already wore it to the 讞转讜谞讛, so we only wear it once a year. After that comes 诪专讜专. You take the 诪专讜专 that you had on your 拽注专讛, the 诪专讜专, the 讞专讬讬谉, the the horseradish, and the lettuce that's on the 拽注专讛. And then you take the the 讞专讜住转 from this from your plate and put it into the saucer, and then there was wine in the saucer, so now the 讞专讜住转 is mixed with wine. So when you make the 讻讝讬转, that you're ready to eat the 诪专讜专 with the the lettuce and the 讞专讬讬谉, you dip it into that 讻专驻住, that 讞专讜住转. Now what we do by us is like I take all from all the children, all the 讞专讜住转, whatever, put it into one place. Each one can do it his own, but you don't have to. You can put it all into the same saucer, and it's all mixed, and then we just touch it. We don't eat 讞专讜住转. Some people think, I mean I guess more modern people, 讞专讜住转 is a very tastes very good, and they think that you have to eat 讞专讜住转, and together with the 诪专讜专 they take 讙讗谞爪注 砖讟讬拽 讞专讜住转. You're not allowed to. It takes away the taste of the 诪专讜专. 讞专讜住转 is only made to touch, and it says that 讞专讜住转 is supposed to kill the poison or whatever that's there, the 拽驻讗, that's in the, in the 诪专讜专. But this, so you just add a little bit to it. You just touch it. And, ah? To kill the poison of the carbolic? No, the 讙诪专讗 says. In the 讙诪专讗 it says that there was poison that could be in this, in 讞讝专转 and like this, like by the 讞专讜住转 you kill it. That's what the 讙诪专讗 says. Today? Today you do the same thing. It definitely has the 专讜讞谞讬讜转讚讬拽注 meanings also, so even if there's no poison today, there's a 专讜讞谞讬讜转讚讬拽注 注谞讬谉 behind it. So that's what we have to do. Sugar? Not sugar. Okay, then after 诪专讜专, 诪专讜专 is the one thing that we don't eat 讘讛住讬讘讛. After 诪专讜专 comes 讻讜专讱. Is there a 砖讬注讜专 for 讛住讬讘讛? What mean a 砖讬注讜专? To what point are you leaning, or what point are you not leaning? To what point? No, a little bit. It's as long as it's a little bit, but you got to lean. You shouldn't forget. If you don't lean, becomes 砖讗诇讜转, you might have to eat over. But you have to, but you have to lean. But yeah, there's no 砖讬注讜专 you have to lean down a lot, or lean down... As long as you're leaning, as long as it's considered leaning. It says a 砖讬讟讛 like that, and that's the reason why women don't lean, because they rely on the 砖讬讟讛 of the 专讗讘讬''讛. The 专讗讘讬''讛 is the one that holds that you don't have to, but we don't 驻住拽谉 like that. So only by the 专讘讬'住 住讚专, no one leaned except the 专讘讬, because it says a 转诇诪讬讚 讘驻谞讬 专讘讜 does not lean. Women don't, and they rely on this 砖讬讟讛. It says, why the 诪谞讛讙 is not to lean, because they rely on this 砖讬讟讛. Ah? 讘讞讘''讚, yeah, they should not lean. No. No. Not 讜讛讬讗 砖注诪讚讛, not not 讚讬讬谞讜, nothing, they didn't sing. Ah? Well, it used to start the first night 9:00, and they would eat 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 before 讞爪讜转. So before 讞爪讜转 depends, like 讞爪讜转 was 12:00. If they didn't change the clock, it was like 12:30, 2:30. No, there's, 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 they would, they would make sure they eat 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 first night. The second night was not, the second night it would start later, but it didn't take more than three hours. And the 专讘讬 wasn't the one that said that the 讛讙讚讛 aloud. There was 讬注拽讘 讻''抓, he used to say the 讛讙讚讛 aloud, and the 专讘讬 said quietly. Unless people very close, maybe they've heard some words, but like this, the 专讘讬 said the whole 讛讙讚讛 quietly, except the end, we'll get to the end, there he said different, he said aloud, but like this, the 讛讙讚讛 till the second 讻讜住, he would say say quietly. Ah? It says you should say aloud. Yeah. It says in the 讗专''讬 讝''诇 like you should say 讘拽讜诇 专诐, you should say in a like, say in loud, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Piece in hand, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but that's later. When we sit down and eat the meal, we have 讻诇讬诐, things in which we put the 诪爪讜转, and the 诪爪讜转 should never be uncovered because of 砖专讬'讛. Over here, it wasn't, no. Yeah. And when you eat, when you lean, 讟讗拽注 the 诪爪讛 falls and the the 诪专讜专 and it's like like like by everybody. Also on the floor, you know, you get to fall, but that's what it is, that if you you have to have 讛住讬讘讛 and you you have to eat this and... Then comes the 讻讜专讱. 讻讜专讱, you take the third 诪爪讛, the third 诪爪讛, and to put the 诪专讜专 in between the 诪爪讛. Here, you don't put the 讞专讜住转, the wet 讞专讜住转, you take a little bit of the dry 讞专讜住转 and you touch it. And you take a 讻讝讬转 of 诪爪讛, you have to take a 讻讝讬转 of 诪爪讛, one 讻讝讬转. Already we ate two 讻讝讬转讬诐 before, and now it's another 讻讝讬转 of 诪爪讛, and you take the 诪专讜专, which is this case it's, you take it off the plate. You take the 讞讝专转 off the plate, so you have this lettuce and the 讞专讬讬谉 and the horseradish, and you put it in, and you say, 讻谉 注砖讛 讛诇诇. This you do eat 讘讛住讬讘讛. Ah? This you do 讘讛住讬讘讛. This you do eat 讘讛住讬讘讛. So so far three 讻讝讬转讬诐. Okay, after this, after 讻讜专讱, comes 砖讜诇讞谉... ah? No, by 诪专讜专, not. By 诪专讜专, not. By 讻专驻住, also not. Earl of Sandwich got a sandwich! 讻讜专讱. No? So the first sandwich! The first sandwich! Maybe. Because we're eating 诪爪讛. See, 诪专讜专, it's dangerous, 诪专讜专, because it's sharp. But here you're mixing it with 诪爪讛, so it's Yeah, so that you eat 讘讛住讬讘讛. Then when we come to after we finish with the with the 讻讜专讱, now you start the meal, but the way the 诪谞讛讙 is, we take the egg, peel the egg, dip it into the salt water, and here again the 专讘讬 would add some salt, and then dip the egg three times in the salt water and you eat the egg. I remember the 专讘讬 would eat the egg in two bites. He did not check the egg for blood spots, and he put it in his mouth and in two bites. Could be that's the reason why he ate it in two bites, because in case there was a blood spot, so if you has if you have a big piece, and nowadays 讘驻专讟, the 砖讗诇讛 is not on the egg, the 砖讗诇讛 is on the blood. See, originally, when you have a blood spot, the whole egg is 讟专祝. Why? Because this is a sign that this is a beginning of a chicken. But that's only eggs that were made by a 讝讻专, but the way it's made now with the with the incubator or whatever it is, so there these eggs can never become into chickens. So what's the blood? A piece of blood. So blood is a problem, but the whole egg is 讻砖专. So, if it's a little little piece amongst a lot, it could be it's 讘讟诇 讘砖讬砖讬诐, I don't know. There's a there's a reason why you don't want to check it, because what happens if you do find a blood spot? So comes out that the egg that you had throughout the whole 住讚专 was a 讟专驻讛 egg, was 讟专祝. You don't want to have that. So there, and since 注诇 驻讬 讚讬谉 you don't have to check. Okay, 驻讛 讜砖诐 because it's it's it's 讘讟诇 讘砖讬砖讬诐. Eat the whole egg? No 砖讬注讜专, but 诇驻讜注诇, the first you take the egg off the 拽注专讛, which is a 讝讻专 for the 讞讙讬讙讛, and you eat the whole egg. No? The 讝专讜注 we don't eat. The 讝专讜注 is no one eat, but the egg is eaten. Oh, you see? Thank you. Oh he does, he's in my 讞诇拽, he doesn't! Because this is part of the 拽注专讛. No, this is the 讘讬爪讛 is part of the 拽注专讛, and it's a 讝讻专 诇讞讙讬讙讛, so we eat it. Yeah. You had the 诪专讜专 before when you ate the 诪专讜专, then you ate the 讻讜专讱. You take off the whole thing. 讞讝专转. Yeah. You take, yeah. Before that, when you had the 讻讜专讱, you took the 诪爪讛, you put you took the 讞专讬讬谉 and the lettuce from the 讞讝专转, which is the second part, and you put it in, and then you're left with nothing, you're left without it. Oh, that the 专讘讬 I think both used a little bit, a small piece which was not ground, that's all. He did put on the 拽注专讛, yeah, yeah, but I don't think anybody else does it. Yeah? You put a piece. And then you eat it? Oh yeah? I never did it, I never do it. The 诪爪讛? No, it's the third 诪爪讛. The third 诪爪讛 and the 讻讜专讱, he used the 讞讝专转 that's that's on the on the 拽注专讛. When you used 诪专讜专, then you took the 诪专讜专 from the 拽注专讛, and then when by 讻讜专讱, you used the 讞讝专转 from the 拽注专讛. They're really the same thing, they just have different names, I don't know why they call them different names. It's just to make a difference, but 诇驻讜注诇 it's the same thing. You put the lettuce and the horseradish as the 诪专讜专, and you put the lettuce and the horseradish as the as the 讞讝专转, and the same 砖讬注讜专 for both. In both places, it's the bottom of the 住讙讜诇. And 讬住讜讚. Okay, now during the meal, obviously there are certain 讛诇讻讜转, we don't eat any roasted meat or chicken and that's true, that's true. That's true. And we are careful with 诪爪讛 砖专讜讬讛, they're very careful, that's not 谞讜讙注 only to the 住讚专, it's 谞讜讙注 to the whole 驻住讞. We're very careful not to have any 讙注讘专讗讻讟住 whatsoever. We're careful to the furthest extreme, furthest extreme. 诇诪砖诇 by 诪讬诐 讗讞专讜谞讬诐, always our 诪谞讛讙 is we wash the fingers and then we go on the lips. During the whole 驻住讞 we don't do that on the lips just in case there is some crumb of 诪爪讛 on the lips. When you take a cup to pour water in, you have to check it first, there might be some crumbs inside. We always keep the 诪爪讛 covered, always. We shouldn't be able to see, it should never be open in case something will spill. So then the the so everyone said, I remember that the 专讘讬 专砖状讘, there were certain years that he wouldn't use a fork all of 驻住讞. Because on a fork, there are like these, these at in between, something could get caught. So when you put your mouth, your fork in the mouth and you have eaten 诪爪讛 with the mouth, it could get stuck there. So he would eat with a spoon. Everything that he ate, he ate with a spoon. And even that, there were some time that he would sit with a towel over the shoulder, and every time he took the spoon out, he would wipe it with the towel. All to be far from 诪爪讛 砖专讜讬讛, from not having any any 讙注讘专讗拽住. That's not because of 砖专讜讬讛. Some people who were very careful did not eat 诪爪讛 all 驻住讞, because the greatest 砖讗诇讛 of 讞诪抓 is in the 诪爪讛. What's the closest things to 讞诪抓? The 诪爪讛! The 诪爪讛 with the water, with the flour, and if 讞住 讜砖诇讜诐 it's not done the right right way, it could be 讞诪爪讚讬拽. Does that mean you have to eat? No. First night is a 讞讬讜讘 to eat 诪爪讛, 讻讝讬转. All seven days it's a 专砖讜转. If you want to eat 驻转, you have to eat 诪爪讛, you can't eat 讞诪抓. But you don't have to. The only 砖讗诇讛 is for 砖讘转 and 讬讜诐 讟讜讘, for 诇讞诐 诪砖谞讛. The 专讗讙讗讟砖讗讜讜注专 would make 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 six 诪爪讜转. Each 诪爪讛 was its own 诪讚讛, was its own thing, and he would make sure it was burnt. Yeah, and then that's and that's all he ate. He didn't eat then. He ate all 驻住讞, he ate eggs. That means you're not allowed to eat 讞诪抓. But if you want to eat 驻转, you want to eat bread, so you have to eat 诪爪讛, but you can't eat It's only the first night it says 讘注专讘 转讗讻诇讜 诪爪讜转, you have to eat 诪爪讛. All right, also, yeah, here, yeah, you have to eat. Yeah, that's why you had six 诪爪讜转, for two nights. Looks like it. Yeah. I don't know, that's 诪注讙诇注讱, I mean. No, but you got to eat 讛诪讜爪讬讗. 讻讝讬转, all right. That's what I heard, that he didn't. Yeah. I think they had one year they, by mistake, someone made a joke and told the 专讘讬 that there are 拽谞讬讬讚诇注讱 in the soup. Someone in the kitchen made a joke, and the waiter did not didn't know it was a joke, so he thought it was true, so he ran right away to the 专讘讬 and said that there's 拽谞讬讬讚诇注讱. They had little potatoes in the soup. And he came running, so the waiter said to the 专讘讬 that they put in 拽谞讬讬讚诇注讱. Said, \"拽谞讬讬讚诇注讱?\" And right away the kitchen, the chief staff heard about it, they came running, said it's not true, and it's a joke, they made a joke between themselves. Oh, so the 专讘讬 took the spoon and 讙注讚专讬讬讟 讗讛讬谉 讗讜谉 讙注讚专讬讬讟 讗讛注专, he didn't eat it. He didn't eat the soup. Because if they already said it's 拽谞讬讬讚诇注讱, that's She was in another room. Few women: the 专讘谞讬转 and her mother, and 讞谞讛, and the 专讘讬'住 mother. Okay,
at the end, then you come to 爪驻讜谉. 爪驻讜谉 is when we eat 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉. It says, take the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, you divide it to everybody, everyone should get a 讻讝讬转. Now, how could you have from your 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 everyone getting, so you 讚讜拽讗 don't, so you take other 诪爪讛 and you give them, and you eat from the 诪爪讛 from that. 讘讗诪转, it says like this: 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 you should eat two 讻讝讬转讬诐. You should eat two 讻讝讬转讬诐 for 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉. Why? Because there's a big 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether the 诪爪讛 that we eat by the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, is it a 讝讻专 for the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, or is it a 讝讻专 for the 诪爪讛 that they ate with the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞? So you should eat two 讻讝讬转讬诐. The 专讘讬 writes that he has an 注爪讛 for those people that it's hard, which I think we all fall into that category by the time you come to the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, and you can't eat much, and you're not allowed to eat it 讗讻讬诇讛 讙住讛. You have to eat it, it says, when you're full, but not that you are 讗讻讬诇讛 讙住讛, that if you eat it, it's going to be stuffing yourself. So we try, but 讻讝讬转 you have to eat. So he says the 注爪讛 is that you eat it and you have in mind that this is a 讝讻专 to the one that 讛诇讻讛 is like. So you can't do that by the first case because over there there's a 砖讗诇讛: this 诪爪讛 or that 诪爪讛? So you have to eat both. But here it's only a 砖讗诇讛 because it's a 讝讻专, so it's a 讝讻专 to this or to this, so you're 诪讻讜讜谉 to which one it's a 讝讻专. And you It's about a half a 诪爪讛, average. Sometimes they're very thin, you need a little bit more. Small, sometimes they're thicker, so it's a little bit less, but it's an average of half a 诪爪讛. So the first time we eat 诪爪讛 is two halves. And then by the 讻讜专讱 is another half. And then by the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 is another half. So altogether we have three 讻讝讬转讬诐, four, five 讻讝讬转讬诐 of 诪爪讛 you have to eat, and two 讻讝讬转讬诐 of 诪专讜专. Two and a half 诪爪讛. It's two and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, two and a half 诪爪讛. Okay, then when the, when after we eat 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, we know that after 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉 you cannot drink or eat anything. So you have to drink, make sure to drink before. Before 讘注谞讟砖讬谞讙, we pour 讻讜住讜 砖诇 讗诇讬讛讜. Even though it says that usually you should pour 讻讜住讜 砖诇 讗诇讬讛讜 after 讘注谞讟砖讬谞讙, but the 专讘讬 said he used to pour before, and because 讗诇讬讛讜 is 砖讬讬讱 to 诪砖讬讞, so the earlier, the better. So he would pour the, pour the cup before, and, but the 专讘讬 it was a glass cup. No, no. Before you 讘注谞讟砖. Oh, I don't know if that was 讚讜讜拽讗 before his cup, I don't know. Maybe before his cup. I don't know. Doesn't say in our Oh, here they write, I'm looking here, they write that he would pour 讗诇讬讛讜's cup before his, but I don't remember that. It says here on page 爪讚讬拽 讗诇祝, if you're looking, yeah, page 诪拽讚讬诐... 谞讜, 讬状讘? 诪拽讚讬诐 讗转 诪讝讬讙转 讻讜住讜 砖诇 讗诇讬讛讜 诇诪讝讬讙转 讛讻讜住 砖诇讜, 讛讻讜住 砖诇讬砖讬, 转专讬 讻住讬. I don't remember, okay, it could be. At this point, if you're going to use your 讘注讻注专, you have to rinse it again, like this before you make 拽讬讚讜砖, you rinse the 讘注讻注专. But the second 讻讜住 you don't have to rinse because it's a 讛诪砖讱 of it. But now that you had the meal in the middle, and now you're going to drink, so you have to start over from the beginning. So you have to rinse your cup, and then you fill it up with wine, and then you pour 讻讜住讜 砖诇 讗诇讬讛讜. Because every time 讻讜住 砖诇 讘专讻讛, if you make 拽讬讚讜砖 on a cup, you have to wash it first. You have to rinse it. For 讗诇讬讛讜? It's okay. But one thing, it shouldn't have a 驻讬住诇. Because our 诪谞讛讙 is that we don't use a cup with a 驻讬住诇. It's 注诇 驻讬, I think from the 讘注诇 砖诐 讟讜讘, not to use with a foot, it should be a straight cup. So he's asking 讻讜住 砖诇 讗诇讬讛讜. Well, it depends if you think 讗诇讬讛讜 is a 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专, then you don't use it. If you think 讗诇讬讛讜 is somebody else, maybe you could use it. I imagine I imagine he's I imagine he's a 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专. So 诪诪讬诇讗 I know. Yes. That's why it's 讻讚讗讬 to use smaller cups and drink the whole thing, better than using bigger cups and drinking most of it. You should drink, yeah, you're 讬讜爪讗 if you drink the majority. It's 讬讜爪讗 you should drink, but you should, if you're able to, you should drink the whole cup. Yes. Huh? No, I'm saying, it has to be the 砖讬注讜专, but you should use a smaller. Because the cups that we have, the regular 讘注讻注专s have six, eight ounces, they they're almost double. So better to use a smaller one in order to to be able to drink the whole thing. Then we 讘注谞讟砖. Okay, 讘注谞讟砖, if you have more than three men, then you make a 诪讝讜诪谉, so one person 讘注谞讟砖es. Now, in this case, not only the person who 讘注谞讟砖es holds the 讻讜住, but everybody holds the 讻讜住. Like like the person who 讘注谞讟砖es, but only one is the one that 讘注谞讟砖es. Yeah? I do. It says from the 讘注诇 砖诐 讟讜讘 that Friday night the 讘注诇 讛讘讬转 should 讘注谞讟砖. Usually it says 讗讜专讞 诪讘专讱, 讛诇讻讛 says you should give a guest to 讘注谞讟砖, but it's in the name of the 讘注诇 砖诐 讟讜讘 they say that Friday night the the 讘注诇 讛讘讬转 should 讘注谞讟砖. Now, I think Friday 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 also, so my 诪谞讛讙 is first night I 讘注谞讟砖 and the second night, I ask my 砖讜讜注专 to 讘注谞讟砖. Yeah, a 讻讛谉 is always, he gets first choice, yeah, yeah. After we finish 讘注谞讟砖讬谞讙 and we drink the four the third 讻讜住, then we pour the fourth cup again, and now we go to open the door. If there is candles are still burning and if it's not Friday night, someone takes the candle and goes to the door and opens the door. And if you live, let's say, you're in a room which has three doors to the outside, you have to have You should open all the doors all the way to the outside. And when you hear that the door is open, that's when you say 砖驻讜讱 讞诪转讱. Our 诪谞讛讙 is we do not stand up 讚讜讜拽讗, I know some people stand up for 讗诇讬讛讜 讛谞讘讬讗, and some people say 讘专讜讱 讛讘讗, but we don't stand up, we don't say 讘专讜讱 讛讘讗, we just Huh? Wrong? No, it's not wrong. Huh? I don't think it's a I don't think it's a problem. Yeah. The 专讘讬 didn't stand up. No. To the to the outside, to the outside, to the outside, yeah. Oh, actually, he even brings here. The 专讘讬 says here, they bring: 讜讗讬谉 爪专讬讱 诇注诪讜讚. 讗诪讬专转 砖驻讜讱 讞诪转讱 讘讬砖讬讘讛 讜讗讬谉 爪专讬讱 诇注诪讜讚. So, but doesn't mean that he didn't stand up. It doesn't mean you don't say See, some people say 砖驻讜讱 讞诪转讱 the whole thing standing. That's for sure not. But to give a stand-up like for like person wants maybe, I don't I don't think the 专讘讬 did it, so. You talk about not having to carry the light to the door? Yeah. So, basically, if it's dangerous, if there's glass or whatever the If it's dangerous, then they don't do it. I mean, it's and if it's Friday night, you don't do it. So, try to make one that shouldn't be dangerous. Can you say it again? I'm sorry, I missed that. What did you say? Yeah, if it's dangerous to carry the light, the candles. Do you have to do it? You should do it. If it's dangerous, that they don't make don't make Put Put a candle that's not dangerous, I mean. If you live in an apartment and you have a balcony, so the balcony is to the outside. You also open the door or is that considered... stairs coming in... Could jump up. Right. I mean, if you could open to the porch, and then you don't have to open to the door... Both? No, you don't have to open both, but you open all the way downstairs? In an apartment building, you open all the way downstairs? Fourth floor. Fourth floor. Okay, I think in your case, 讗诇讬讛讜 could come from the balcony. Yeah, when do you close the door? When they finish the whole thing? Yeah, they stand there and say 砖驻讜讱 讞诪转讱, and when they finish, they come back in, and that's when you continue the 讛讙讚讛. So, when they're finished, they come in, so then you continue with 讛诇诇, 诇讗 诇谞讜 讛壮 诇讗 诇谞讜, you say the whole 讛诇诇. Now, like I said before, here, the 专讘讬, this part from this part of 讛诇诇 of the 讛讙讚讛, which is the end, the 专讘讬 would say loud. Not 住转诐 loud, he had a special tune, special, and very, just from the only times of the year that you were able to see on the 专讘讬 a very he would, you know, 讛转专讙砖讜转, and this when the 专讘讬 would 讚讗讜讜注谉, not like, unlike other, you know, 爪讚讬拽讬诐 they would make with the hands and... but the 专讘讬 was quiet, did not move, just wouldn't even 砖讗拽诇 讝讬讱. A little bit shake like this, and you didn't see anything. But here, from this 讛讙讚讛, you would see he would 砖讗拽诇 讝讬讱, not 住转诐 砖讗拽诇, but he would go back and forth, say it pretty loud so you were able to hear, and would say it slowly and very seriously. You could see, and many times you could see tears coming down his eyes. You could see him crying. This and this special, the tune this was very, very 讛讗专爪讬拽. It was, and the 驻砖讟 is the reason is it says the difference between the first half of the 住讚专 and the second half, the first half of the 住讚专 is connected to 讬爪讬讗转 诪爪专讬诐, and the second half of the 住讚专 is connected to 诪砖讬讞. And that's why this is, was a very serious thing. And then you come to the end till you finish your 谞砖诪转, and the end, then soon as you finish 讬砖转讘讞, make 讛讙驻谉 and it's the you drink the fourth 讻讜住. And right after the fourth 讻讜住 you make the 讘专讻讛 讗讞专讜谞讛, and then you say 诇砖谞讛 讛讘讗讛 讘讬专讜砖诇讬诐. We don't drink from 讗诇讬讛讜 讛谞讘讬讗's cup, and afterwards you pour it back in the bottle. And by the 专讘讬 this was like a 讙讗谞爪注 注讘讜讚讛. He would take from the from the 讻讜住, pour it into his cup and back and forth and back and forth, and pour it into the bottle and from the bottle back into the cup, and it's a 讙讗谞爪注 讙注砖注驻讟. They tried to they tried to follow what he does, and he didn't always do the same. So, they couldn't figure out exactly what it is, and this is 注讘讜讚讛. Did he ever say why he did it? They asked him. Says, \"I have no 讞砖讘讜谉.\" They asked him, \"Why does he do it?\" Drink from the cup of... It's 讗诇讬讛讜, but 讞讘状讚 don't use a cup with a leg. Like I said before, if he's a 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专, then he won't want to use that. Why don't they use a cup with a leg? I don't know. It's one of the things. I think it's from the 讘注诇 砖诐 讟讜讘 they say, but I don't know the reason. I don't know. Down to earth. Has to be down to earth, you know? All the way down, I don't know. Anyway, this is... It turns out it's a very bad idea because... Sure, it won't burn. Sure, you shouldn't put aluminum foil. Shouldn't put You put 10 pieces in paper, not in aluminum foil, you know. Yeah, won't burn. Do we drink water? No. No, that's clear. Even though 注诇 驻讬 讚讬谉 you're allowed to drink water after the 讗驻讬拽讜诪谉, after the 住讚专, it's clearly, it says clearly our 诪谞讛讙 is not to drink even water. Yeah. Is it better to drink grape juice or wine? But if majority Throughout the 住讚专? The four cups? Better to drink wine. Certainly better to drink wine. Even if majority drinks grape juice? Yeah, what's 谞讜讙注? Whoever cannot drink wine, let them drink grape juice. But whoever could, it's definitely a bigger 讛讬讚讜专 to drink wine. There was a time when there was a big 砖讗诇讛 whether grape juice 讘讻诇诇 you're 讬讜爪讗. I remember when the first 讻砖专 grape juice came out from 拽讚诐, on the bottle the 讛讻砖专 was from the 爪注讛诇讬诪注专 专讘, and on the bottle it said 讻砖专 诇拽讬讚讜砖 讜诇讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转, 诇讞讜诇讛 讜诇讝拽谉, so used to say. It's 讻砖专 for the four, 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转 for a sick person or an old person. And there were 专讘谞讬诐 who claimed that you're not 讬讜爪讗. Why? 诇讻讗讜专讛 why not? The 讙诪专讗 says 住讜讞讟 讗讚诐 讗砖讻讜诇 注谞讘讬诐 讜诪讘专讱 注诇讬讜 讘讜专讗 驻专讬 讛讙驻谉. You can take grapes, squeeze it out and then you drink, you have to make 讛讙驻谉. So this is what grape juice is. So the So what they some 讟注谞讛'讟 that that's okay, because it's possible that this, if you leave it, it'll ferment and turn into wine. 诪诪讬诇讗 this is like wine. But what they did to the grape juice is they pasteurize it in a way that it could never ferment. So now, that's not wine that's 专讗讜讬 for to be It's not like wine. So there was a whole discussion. I think that Rav Henkin, who was the big 专讘谞讬诐 in in New York, he I heard in his name that he 驻住拽谞'讟 that you're not allowed you're not 讬讜爪讗. And I heard from 讘砖诐 the 专讘讬 also that he wasn't... 转砖诇状讞, when the 专讘讬 had a heart attack by 讛拽驻讜转, and after that he went into the 住讜讻讛 to make 拽讬讚讜砖, so the doctor asked him to make 拽讬讚讜砖 on grape juice. He wouldn't. Says 拽讬讚讜砖 诪讗讻讟 诪注谉 讗讜讬祝 讜讜讬讬谉. So 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转 also. But people who can't, or it's hard, because 诇驻讜注诇 most 驻讜住拽讬诐 驻住拽谞'谉 that you're 讬讜爪讗. There's another problem: you have to make sure that the grape juice is not from concentrate, then it's certainly not grape juice. And sometimes the grape juice that they sell, okay, I think the 讻砖专, the Kedem and these real kosher companies make sure, because they know you're gonna use it for 讗专讘注 讻讜住讜转, so they don't make it that, but if it would be made from concentrate, could be in in nutrition and in taste it's all the same, but 诇驻讜注诇 it's water. And even by wine, real wine, that 注诇 驻讬 讚讬谉 you could mix two-thirds water and one-third wine, but there it's much it's more than that. It's more than two-thirds water, because it's mostly water. Anyway, so 诇驻讜注诇 grape juice for those that can't, for the women let them use grape juice, for the children, but the adults should should really use wine. What about soaking matzah with, you know, the wine? Huh? Dipping matzah with wine? If the wine is pure wine and has no drop of water, then you could put the 诪爪讛 in. I wouldn't try it, because I'm not so sure. Same thing with the milk. You're allowed to put 诪爪讛 in milk, because it's not 砖专讜讬讛, it's not 讙注讘专讗拽讟住. Apple juice also? Eggs, I mean. Eggs also. But it's only if it's pure pure, not water. I'm not sure about the grape juice, I'm not sure about I'm not sure about the milk. I don't know if it has a drop of water, it says it's worse than water. 诪讬 驻讬专讜转, juice, mixed with water is more 诪讞诪讬抓, it makes more 讞诪抓 than than water. Red and white wine? Huh? Red? 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 you should try to have red. It says you should look for it. If you don't have, go and search, but if you have a choice of two, you should take red. You should take red. Yes. In America reconstitute has some water in it. So you can't so you can't really put the you can't put the the 诪爪讛 in. In 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖 they write they used to had called 砖诪讜专讛 诪讬诇讱. So then you can put it. Milk that they have made clear that it's pure milk, so you should be able to use it with 诪爪讛. But if you but we don't know, so... And I know that recently came out that they said that avocado is also... Huh? And I know that recently came out that they said that avocado you're allowed to... Yeah. Is it true that... No, you're allowed to, because it's as long as there's no, because if you wash it off let's say, and then there's a drop of water on it, it's no good. But if it's clearly not with water, then you're allowed to. Avocado oil? Yeah, if it's if... Yeah, avocado oil. Yeah, if you make sure that there is no water in it at all. What what what's the 诪谞讛讙 in 讞讘状讚 if you're in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 and and if you have a guest stay, do they make 讛讘讚诇讛? Would they make 讛讘讚诇讛 for the two seder? What do you mean? In Israel or here? In Israel. You're in Israel and there's like and you live there so now you have one day 讬讜诐 讟讜讘? Right. And he has two days 讬讜诐 讟讜讘? Right, that's that's the question. So let him find out, that's that's the big debate in amongst 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专 专讘谞讬诐 what you should do. Should a guy that comes to 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 for a visit, should he have two days 讬讜诐 讟讜讘 or one day 讬讜诐 讟讜讘? The 诇讬讜讘讗讜讜讬讟砖注专 专讘谞讬诐 in Israel say one day. No, 讛讘讚诇讛, that's your place, that's for sure. That's for sure. Okay, 讝讗诇 讝讬讬谉 讗 讻砖专'谉 讗讜谉 驻专讬讬诇讬讻谉 驻住讞. 讗诪谉. 讘专讜讱 转讛讬讛.