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KESUBOS (IYUN)

Kesubos 5b โ€” Iyun

Is an Unintended Cut Still a Forbidden 'Act of Building'?

Part of Kesubos (Iyun)

A dense Kesubos sugya on whether a first bi'ah that draws blood on Shabbos counts as the melacha of chaburah when it's not the goal of the action, applying the Rabbi Yehuda-Rabbi Shimon machloket on unintended labor (pesik reisha).

Audio Transcript
Intro: Why this Gemara is so tough

Gemara itself is a hard Gemara, so I think if the time will go away just to explain what the Gemara says. Okay, let's just learn the Gemara in here on ื“ืฃ ื” ืขืžื•ื“ ื‘ in Ketubot. ืื™ื‘ืขื™ื ืœื”ื•: they asked a question, ืžื”ื• ืœื‘ืขื•ืœ ื‘ืชื—ืœื” ื‘ืฉื‘ืช? Are you allowed to do the first bi'ah on Shabbos, Friday night? And the question, the Gemara will explain the detail of the question, of the two sides. Do we say ื“ื ืžื™ืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, ืื™ ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืžื™ื—ื‘ืจ? Is the blood that you make come out, is it mifkad pakid, is it gathered in one place, and all you have to do, like Rashi explains, is basically by opening an opening, making an opening, and the blood comes out? Cuz when in the first bi'ah, from ื“ื ื‘ืชื•ืœื™ื, when she's a ื‘ืชื•ืœื”, and you break the ื‘ืชื•ืœื™ื, it bleeds. And the she'eilah is, how does the blood come out? Is it that the blood is there in one area, gathered together, like a bubble and you have blood in it, and all you're doing is opening the making an opening, and the blood comes out? Or, ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืžื™ื—ื‘ืจ, is the blood connected to the flesh? And the

When blood is attached: the melacha of chaburah

difference is, if it's ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืžื™ื—ื‘ืจ, then you have a melachah. By doing it, you do the melachah of chaburah. What's chaburah? Chaburah is when you make someone bleed. No, not so when you make someone You have a wound, but you make someone bleed with a wound, this is a melachah of chaburah. Tosafot over goes into what under what category of melachah this will go. ื ื˜ื™ืœืช ื ืฉืžื”, ืฆื•ื‘ืข, whatever. But this is a melachah. But that melachah is only if the blood is part of the flesh, and you and it comes out, that's chaburah. So that's the Gemara's she'eilah. This specific blood that comes out by a ื‘ืชื•ืœื”, is it mifkad pakid? Then it's not asur on Shabbos, because you're not making a chaburah, there is no melachah. Like a boil. Huh? Like a boil, it hurts. Well, that the Gemara later brings it, an example, yeah, that you could take the pus out. Anyway, that's the whole idea. But if it's a ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืžื™ื—ื‘ืจ, if it's gathered If it's together with ืžื—ื•ื‘ืจ together with the flesh, then it's asur. So that's the beginning of the question. Then the Gemara continues: ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ ื“ื ืžื™ืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, even if we're gonna say that the dam is in one place, gathered together, and therefore there is no melachah, but there could be another melachah. The

Opening a passage: is it a building melacha?

problem is, you're making a ืคืชื—. You're making an opening, you're making a door. Making a door is a melachah on Shabbos. And the way Rashi learns here, the melachah is the melachah of binyan, building. ืื™, it's talking by a body, so Rashi says that there is such a thing A little later, Rashi explains it in more detail. There is such a thing as binyan by a by a ื’ื•ืฃ. He quotes a pasuk: ื•ื™ื‘ืŸ ืืช ื”ืฆืœืข. When Hashem made Chava, the pasuk uses the expression ื•ื™ื‘ืŸ, He built. So, we see from there that there is a a ื’ื“ืจ of binyan in a ื’ื•ืฃ. And therefore, opening a ืคืชื— is a binyan. So, even if we're gonna hold, the Gemara says, that as far as the dam is concerned, there is no melachah, we still have a she'eilah. Do we say ืœื“ืžื ื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ื•ืฉืจื™, that when a person does it, what his interest is to get the dam, and since that's his kavanah, that's not a ืžืœืื›ื”, ืื™ ื“ื™ืœืžื ืœืคืชื—ื ื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš ื•ืืกื•ืจ? Or maybe what the person is interested in is really making the ืคืชื—. And if his kavanah is to make the ืคืชื—, then even though as far as the dam is concerned, there is no melachah, but there's another melachah, the melachah of making a ืคืชื—. But the only when would that be assur? If he's mechaven, if you intend to do it. Then the Gemara continues: ื•ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ ืœื“ืžื ื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš, even if you're gonna say that the kavanah is for the ื“ื, ื•ืคืชื— ืžืžื™ืœื ืงืืชื™, the fact that you make a ืคืชื—, that's by itself, that happens without your intent, ื”ืœื›ื” ื›ืจื‘ื™ ืฉืžืขื•ืŸ ื“ืืžืจ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ ืžื•ืชืจ, ืื™ ื”ืœื›ื” ื›ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื” ื“ืืžืจ ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ ืืกื•ืจ?

Rabbi Yehuda vs Rabbi Shimon on unintended actions

How do we pasken? Do we pasken like Rabbi Yehudah or like Rabbi Shimon? There's a machloket between Rabbi Yehudah and Rabbi Shimon by ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ, that if you do something which is mutar, but in the meantime something else which is asur will happen because of what you did, are you allowed to do it? So Rabbi Yehudah says it's asur, and Rabbi Shimon says ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is mutar. And that will be the question here too. If you intend the blood, mainly you your main kavanah is for the dam, and therefore your kavanah is for something that's mutar, because now we're going according to the sevara that dam is ืžื™ืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, so it's your kavanah is mutar, but in the meantime while you're doing it, the ืคืชื— will open. So you will have been doing the melachah of ืคืชื—, but you weren't mechaven for the ืคืชื—. So the melachah is an ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ. And the she'eilah is, do we pasken like Rabbi Yehudah that ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is asur, do we pasken like Rabbi mutar ืื™ื ื• ืž- Rabbi Yehudah ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is mutar? Rabbi Shimon, ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is mutar. ื•ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ, now the Gemara goes a step further, even if we're gonna say ื”ืœื›ื” ื›ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื”, that the ื”ืœื›ื” is like ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื”, ืžืงืœืงืœ ื”ื•ื ืืฆืœื” ืคืชื—, ืื™ ืžืชืงืŸ ื”ื•ื ืืฆืœื” ืคืชื—? When he does make the ืคืชื—, and since we're possibly going now according to Rabbi Yehuda, it's asur, because ein mitkaven is asur, but is it called a kilkul, or is it called a tikun? Kilkul, is it spoiling, something ruining, and a tikun is good, it's something fixing, something good. And the question is, we know the rule is that if you do a ืžืœืื›ื” on Shabbos, but you're a mekalkel, you're patur. If the ืžืœืื›ื” that you do is a kilkul, if you're doing a cooking, you're tearing open you're breaking something, if you're breaking something through the ืžืœืื›ื”, the ืžืœืื›ื” is not asur. Now, even if we'll say that there's a ืžืœืื›ื” here because you're opening a ืคืชื—, but the Gemara, is the ืคืชื— a kilkul or is it a tikun? Do we look at it the fact that you open a ืคืชื— is a kilkul? Rashash says why would it be a kilkul? Because now you're, by opening a ืคืชื—, you're changing her status from being a ื‘ืชื•ืœื” to being a ื‘ืขื•ืœื”, which lowers her ืžื“ืจื’ื”, so it's a kilkul. On the other hand, by the fact that you're making her into a ื‘ืชื•ืœื”, into a ื‘ืขื•ืœื”, and you're the one the Gemara says, Tosafot brings earlier that a woman gives her her ื›ืจืช ื‘ืจื™ืช, she gives her confidence to somebody who made her into a ื›ืœื™. The first the person who made the first ื‘ื™ืื” made her a ื›ืœื™. Anyway, so there is a tikun in making this ืคืชื—. So if it's a kilkul, and even if you ืคืกืงืŸ like ืจื‘ื™ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื”, ื“ื‘ืจ ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ ืืกื•ืจ, but it still would be mutar because it's a kilkul. On the other hand, if you say it's a tikun, and if you pasken like Rabbi Yehuda, it would be asur. That's the first way the Gemara puts the question. Then the Gemara goes on to the second ika d'amri, another way, which, let's not discuss it now, it's going to be too confusing and that's not what... He's only interested in the dam, not the petach. This is, he's only interested in the dam, not the petach, and the dam itself is no problem because it's ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“. Tosafot goes into what would be his purpose of wanting the dam. So Tosafot has two pshatim, a machloket of Rabbeinu Tam and Ri. One is according to Rabbeinu Tam, he wants the dam out, so next time there shouldn't be dam. And the other one is he wants to see, ืชืงื™, to see if she's a betulah or not, so he needs the dam to see. Anyway, that's there's a whole difference in ื”ืœื›ื” ืœื’ื‘ื™ these two pshatim, but this is not... Then the Gemara goes into a second way of asking the question, if we're going to hold ื“ื ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืžื™ื—ื‘ืจ. And the Gemara also has a whole list of what the question will be in ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ, if you say this, if you say that. But what we're going to discuss is only this. This is the Gemara's discussion here. Comes

Rashashโ€™s kashya: is the opening inevitable?

Rashash and asks a kushya. The Gemara said like this: if his kavanah is the dam, and dam is ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, there is no issur. The only issur possible is because the petach is being made. But it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ. So it'll depend whether we pasken like Rabbi Yehuda or like Rabbi Shimon. According to Rabbi Yehuda it would be asur, according to Rabbi Shimon, mutar. Comes Rashash and he says, ื•ืื ืชื™ืžื, Rashash asks a kashya, ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื ื•ืœื ื™ืžื•ืช? It's a pesik reisha. The rule of pesik reisha is that if you do something that's mutar, and in the meantime something that's asur will happen, which we said is a machloket between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon, but if the melacha that's asur must happen, not could happen, but must happen, then even Rabbi Shimon agrees that it's asur, that's chayav. The mashal, the case is like this: The classical machloket between Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon is when someone is taking over a kise, a ืžื˜ื”, a chair. There's a chair standing here, you want to take the chair over there. Now to take the chair over there, you could schlepp it there. If the floor is a floor made of sand, by schlepping it, it might make a ื—ืจื™ืฅ, it'll make a a scrape into the in the ground. And that's a ืžืœืื›ื” ื“ืื•ืจื™ื™ืชื, that's a melacha of ื—ืจื™ืฉื”, digging into the ground. And that's what a classical machloket is, but he's not intending, he doesn't need it, his kavana is not to make that ื—ืจื™ืฅ. But the ื—ืจื™ืฅ might happen. So Rabbi Yehuda says, you can't do it, if you make the ื—ืจื™ืฅ you'll be chayav. And Rabbi Shimon says no, since that's not what your kavana is, it's okay, it's mutar. But Rabbi Shimon says if the chair happens to be a heavy one, that when you carry it, it must make the ื—ืจื™ืฅ, there's no way it won't, then he also says you're chayav. The taytsh ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื ื•ืœื ื™ืžื•ืช means chop off the head, it shouldn't die? The Rambam gives an example, someone says, I want the head of a chicken to give to my little boy to play with, so I'll chop off the head of the chicken, but I don't want it to die. My kavana is just to take a head, my kavana is not to kill it. So I'm not chayav of course. He says no, what do you mean? You chop off the head, it dies, it's a pesik reisha, that's called psik reisha. So Rashash asks here, what does the Gemara say here? That if his kavanah is to the ื“ื, but the ืคืชื— is going to happen anyway, so according to Rabbi Shimon there is no problem, the problem is only according to Rabbi Yehuda. So Rashash says it's a psik reisha, because if you're going to make the ื“ื, you'll definitely have the ืคืชื—. It must make the ืคืชื—. If it must make the ืคืชื—, it's a psik reisha, so even according to Rabbi Shimon, this should be ืืกื•ืจ. So Rashash says, ื”ื ืคืจื›ื™ื ืŸ, it says like this, ื”ื ืคืจื›ื™ื ืŸ ืœื” ืœืงืžืŸ, the ื’ืžืจื later asks the question, ื•ืžืฉื ื™ื ืŸ, the ื’ืžืจื answers, ื™ืฉ ื‘ืงื™ืื™ืŸ ื‘ื”ื˜ื™ื”, there are people who know how to do it in a special way, ื”ื˜ื™ื” means some curvy way, some special way, ื•ืื™ืŸ ื“ื ื™ื•ืฆื ื•ืืฃ ืื™ืŸ ืคืชื— ื ืคืชื—, that some people could do it and there should be no ื“ื and there should be no ืคืชื—. ื”ื™ืœื›ืš ืœืื• ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื ื•ืœื ื™ืžื•ืช, so it's not a psik reisha, because it's possible that you shouldn't have the ืคืชื—. The

Rashiโ€™s resolution: can we avoid blood and opening?

whole ืงืฉื™ื was must make the ืคืชื—, so this Rashi says it's possible not to have the ื“ื and not to have the ืคืชื—. Wait, but only that if you not have the ื“ื... One sec, this is what Rashi says. Tosafot ask the same ืงืฉื™ื. Usually Tosafot does not ask the same ืงืฉื™ื as Rashi and give the same ืชื™ืจื•ืฅ, because Tosafot saw Rashi, Tosafot doesn't repeat it. Whenever Tosafot has the same ืงืฉื™ื and gives a teirutz which is similar, you know for sure that it's something else. Tosafos asked the kashya here on the same thing. The Gemara says if ืœื“ืžื• ืฆืจื™ืš, if he needs the ื“ื is ืžื•ืชืจ according to ืจื‘ ืฉืžืขื•ืŸ, ื•ืื ืชืืžืจ ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื ืฉื™ืขืฉื” ื ืžื™ ืคืชื—. Same kashya, it's a pesik reisha, the ืคืชื— must happen. ื•ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื•ืžืจ ืฉื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื•ืฆื™ื ื”ื“ื ื‘ืœื ืขืฉื™ื™ืช ืคืชื—. He says we must say that it's possible to have ื“ื without ืคืชื—. That's what Tosafos says. Comes the Maharsha and says that Tosafos is not like Rashi. Tosafos makes sense. The kashya was your kavana is for the ื“ื. What is the melacha that's going to happen? The ืคืชื—. So the kashya was if you have ื“ื, you must have a ืคืชื—, so it's a pesik reisha. So Tosafos says it's not true, you could have ื“ื without a ืคืชื—. So who says it's a pesik reisha? Pesik reisha means that if you're going to do the ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžื•ืชืจ, it must make the ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืืกื•ืจ, and it's not true. Rashi didn't say that. Rashi said that the people could do ื”ื˜ื™ื”, ื“ืื™ืŸ ื“ื ื™ื•ืฆื ื•ืืฃ ืื™ืŸ ืคืชื— ื ืคืชื—. That means that there is no ื“ื and no ืคืชื—. In other words, you could make there should be no ื“ื and no ืคืชื—. But Rashi didn't say that you could make there should be ื“ื and there should not be ืคืชื—. It's mashma that if you have ื“ื, you must have ืคืชื—. So what kind of teirutz is it? It's not a teirutz, because we're talking now in the case ืœื“ืžื• ืฆืจื™ืš, so he's looking for the ื“ื. If he's looking for the ื“ื, you can't help, you must have ืคืชื—, so it's a pesik reisha. So if you're going to do the ื“ื, you're going to have it's a pesik reisha. What was Rashi's answer? But the Pnei Yehoshua says that Rashi didn't mean that. Rashi meant either or. Rashi says you could do ื”ื˜ื™ื”, ื“ืื™ืŸ ื“ื ื™ื•ืฆื, you could make ื”ื˜ื™ื” ื“ื shouldn't come out, ื•ืืฃ ืื™ืŸ ืคืชื— ื ืคืชื—, or you could do ื”ื˜ื™ื” that ืคืชื— won't open, that ื“ื will come and ืคืชื— won't open, which is exactly like Tosafot. But that's not the pashut pshat in Rashi. If you look in Rashi, Rashi makes it very clear that why is it not a pesik reisha, because you can have ื“ื you could have it should be no ื“ื and no ืคืชื—. Comes the Ritva, and the Ritva said I'll explain Rashi. He says like this: Being that it's possible to make ื”ื˜ื™ื” that there won't be ื“ื and won't be ืคืชื—, you never know. This guy who is not going to do ื”ื˜ื™ื”, because ื”ื˜ื™ื” is a special art, he's not going to do ื”ื˜ื™ื”, but you can never know, it might turn out to be ื”ื˜ื™ื”. Since it's a possibility, it might turn out. So what might happen? There might not be a ืคืชื—. So it's not a pesik reisha. The whole kashya is it's a pesik reisha because what you're doing must make a ืคืชื—, so he says no, since there'll be an ื”ื˜ื™ื”, and ein hachi nami, if ื”ื˜ื™ื” will happen, you won't have ื“ื either. But ืœืคื•ืขืœ, you won't have ื“ื and you won't have a ืคืชื—. So now we can't say a ืคืชื— is a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื. Which is very hard to understand. Because if that's going to happen, you won't have the ื“ื. In other words, you won't so you won't do a ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžื•ืชืจ either. Where the whole question is you're looking for the ื“ื. If you'll make the ื“ื, the ืคืชื— must come must be according to Rashi, it seems that way. You can't have ื“ื without ืคืชื—. So what's the answer, you might not make ื“ื? Okay, if you don't make ื“ื, there's nothing to talk about. Our whole kashya is if you're going to make the ื“ื, are you allowed to go do the ื“ื? And the reason why you're allowed to is because it's not a melachah. ื“ื is not a melachah, it's ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“. ืื™ the ืคืชื—, it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ. What do you mean ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ, but it's a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื? What It's hard to understand the the Ritva's terutz, because after all, the ื“ื must have make ืคืชื—. According to Tosafot, it's very good, and not according to Rashi. Then there are more kashyot here, a whole bunch of more kashyot, but let me just give well, one more kashya, major kashya, maybe there's another kashya in Rashi. The first question was, is ื“ื ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“? Is the ื“ื just gathered in one place, or ื—ื‘ื•ืจื” ืžื™ืขื‘ื“? ื“ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ ื“ื ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, now if you say ื“ื ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, so as far as the ื“ื is concerned, it's mutar. But depends if that's your If that's what you're looking for. If you're mechaven for the ื“ื, it's mutar. If ืœืคืชื— ื”ื•ื ืฆืจื™ืš, if you're intending for the ืคืชื—, then even though the ื“ื is ืžืคืงื“ ืคืงื™ื“, it's still asur for a different ืžืœืื›ื”, for the ืžืœืื›ื” of ืคืชื—. That's what the Gemara says. Why didn't the Gemara right then and there on the spot ask, are you so sure it's going to be asur if he intends for the ืคืชื—? Depends if it's a ืžืงืœืงืœ or a ืžืชืงืŸ. The thing that the Gemara does at the end, after the Gemara says if you're intending the ื“ื and the ืคืชื— happens also, ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ, if we pask like Rabbi Yehuda, it's asur. But it depends, maybe it's a ืžืงืœืงืœ! Why didn't the Gemara ask right at the beginning? When the Gemara said that if you're interested in the ืคืชื—, it's for sure asur, nothing to do with Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Shimon, because it's a ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ. You are ืžื›ื•ื™ืŸ to make a ืคืชื—, and that's a ืžืœืื›ื”. And that's asur? Hold on a minute! How do you know it's asur? Maybe it's a ืžืงืœืงืœ! So why didn't the Gemara right on the spot over there ask that maybe it's a ืžืงืœืงืœ? The Gemara didn't do that. That the Gemara said for sure, if you if you are ืžื›ื•ื™ืŸ to the ืคืชื—, it's asur. If you ืžื›ื•ื™ืŸ to the ื“ื, then then it might be be mutar according to Rabbi Shimon, and it's assur according to Rabbi Yehuda, but even according to Rabbi Yehuda, if you're a mekalkel it's mutar. Why didn't the Gemara say that right in the beginning? That's a kashya the Ritva asks, the Rashba asks. And the Rashba says I'll tell you: this mekalkel here, he says, is not a real mekalkel. It's a mekalkel and a metaken together. The one that we're talking about, making the ืคืชื—. Even when the Gemara feels it's a mekalkel, the Gemara knows it's not a real mekalkel. It's a mekalkel from one side, but it's a metaken from the other side. It does good because, like we said, it makes her into a gives it she has a ื›ืจื™ืชื•ืช ื‘ืจื™ืช, the one that makes her into a ื›ืœื™. So there is a tikun for sure. So therefore, if you are mechaven for the ืคืชื—, we don't care if it's a kilkul, it's still assur. Because even if you're even if it's a kilkul, but since there is some tikun here and you are mechaven to it, it's assur. The only time the Gemara felt if a mekalkel should be mutar, if you're not mechaven to it, and the only reason it would be assur is because it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is assur according to Rabbi Yehuda. Then the Gemara felt if it's an ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ and you're a mekalkel, even though it's not a hundred percent mekalkel, might be it's still mutar. But lechatchila the Gemara didn't say it. But it's also not so simple to understand, because after all, according to Rabbi Yehuda, ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ and mitchaven is the same thing. According to Rabbi Yehuda, ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is ืืกื•ืจ. So obviously, according to Rabbi Yehuda, ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ and ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ is the same thing. And therefore, if by ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ we said ืžืงืœืงืœ will make it ืžื•ืชืจ, by a mitchaven, according to Rabbi Yehuda at least, it should also be ืžื•ืชืจ. Well, I think you could say, before the Gemara wasn't talking about according to Rabbi Yehuda. So, you could explain what he's saying, but keep in mind what the Ritva says, because that's going to be noge'a to what we're going to say later, that the Ritva's vort is that before when you are mechaven, he says then even if it would be ืžืงืœืงืœ it would be ืืกื•ืจ. Only when you're an ืื™ื ื• ืžื›ื•ื™ืŸ on the ืคืชื—, and according to Rabbi Yehuda it's ืืกื•ืจ, but then if you're a ืžืงืœืงืœ... Then there's another thing: Rashi, when the Gemara says like this: ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ ืœื“ื ื”ื•ื ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ, if the, in the beginning, if you if he wants the ื“ื and not the ืคืชื—, then according to Rabbi Shimon, what would be? It would be ืžื•ืชืจ, because you're not mechaven to the ืคืชื— and it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ, and it's ืžื•ืชืจ. On the other hand, according to Rabbi Yehuda, it would be ืืกื•ืจ. So Rashi says: ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ ืœื“ื ื”ื•ื ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ ื•ืœื ืœืคืชื—, ืžื™ื”ื• ืขืœ ื›ืจื—ืš ืคืชื—ื ืžืžื™ืœื ื”ื•ื™. But ื‘ืขืœ ื›ืจื—ื• the ืคืชื— happens. Why does Rashi say that? Later Rashi asks a ืงืฉื™ื of ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, but here the point should not be the ื‘ืขืœ ื›ืจื—ื•, here the point should be that even though a ืคืชื— will happen, but that's not your kavana, the the stress should be the other way. Rashi stresses: but ื‘ืขืœ ื›ืจื—ื• the... Why is that important to stress here? Rashi should say we disregard the ืคืชื—. Later Rashi will ask a kashya why it's psik reisha, but in the point before when when the wants to say it's mutar, the Gemara says if he's mechaven to the ื“ื and not the ืคืชื—, it's mutar. So Rashi would should say even though the ืคืชื— happens, but Rashi didn't do that. Rashi says ืื ืชืžืฆื™ ืœื•ืžืจ ืœื“ื ื”ื•ื ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ ื•ืœื ืœืคืชื—, ื•ืžื™ื”ื•, but al korchach it's going to happen. Why does Rashi put that in there? Al korchach there just means it's forced, right? It's forced. Doesn't mean against his doesn't mean No, no, no, it's definitely going to happen. But that, if anything, that's a stress to the

Rashi's stress on eino miskaven mutar

other direction, that's a stress to the reason of being asur. And Rashi will takeh ask. But why does Rashi stress it here in this Rashi, where he tries to explain why it's called an eino miskaven and it's mutar? He should have said that because you're not mechaven to the ืคืชื—, you're just mechaven to the ื“ื, so even though the ืคืชื— is going to happen, but you're not mechaven. Rashi doesn't say that. Rashi says you're not mechaven to the ื“ื, but you should know that the ืคืชื— is going to happen. Why is that important to say that to know that the ืคืชื— is going to happen? Anyway, just there is, the Alter Rebbe here in Shulchan Aruch, learn, speaks about this din in ืกื™ืžืŸ ืจืดืค. And he has a different pshat in the Gemara than Rashi. But from what he says, you could understand, we could come up with a pshat in Rashi. He comes and goes into the whole sugya here. And according to the Alter Rebbe, it comes out here that what melachah would it be if you would make a ืคืชื—? Because we see the discussion is making the ืคืชื— is a melachah. Whole she'eilah is, is he ืžื›ื•ื™ืŸ to the melachah, is ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื™ืŸ to the melachah, is it ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, but the melachah is ืคืชื—. What melachah is making the ืคืชื—? So we said Rashi learns the melachah is ื‘ื ื™ืŸ, building, making a door, like you make a door, making a ืคืชื— is ื‘ื ื™ืŸ. The Alter Rebbe learns that the melachah here of ืคืชื— is ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. To make a kli. That's, not to say the melachah, that falls under the category of ืžื›ื” ื‘ืคื˜ื™ืฉ. ืžื›ื” ื‘ืคื˜ื™ืฉ means banging with a hammer. The last of the thirty-nine melachot is ืžื›ื” ื‘ืคื˜ื™ืฉ. Actually not the last, but it's one of the... Banging with a hammer, does that mean... there's nothing wrong, there's no melachah in banging with a hammer, if you take a hammer and bang hammer like your books, but the meaning is when you when a craftsman makes a kli, after everything is finished, the last finishing touch, after everything is done, he gives it a bang, that is the end. So there is a melachah called ื’ืžืจ ื›ืœื™. Making a kli, finishing a kli. That's it called the melachah of ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, which is a category of ืžื›ื” ื‘ืคื˜ื™ืฉ. So making a ืคืชื— ืคืชื—, the Alter Rebbe says, is ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. Does that mean is anything actually doing anything destructive or practical to the kli, or is it somewhat Even if it doesn't. But if that's the way it's done, it doesn't matter. If that's the way a craftsman finishes his kli, then that would be that would be the end. That would be the last thing you do. Whatever the last thing is? Anything, whatever the last thing is. If a person binds a book in a way which is not a melachah, but when he makes the last little thing that will make it into a book, that's a melacha d'oraisa, that's called ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, ื’ืžืจ ื›ืœื™, ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. Is that because you now have a new thing that wasn't finished until Shabbos? Whatever that You find all kinds of reasons, yeah, yeah. But this is a melacha. So making a ืคืชื—, the Alter Rebbe says, is ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, you are making a ื›ืœื™. And in this case also it's ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. So the Alter Rebbe says, the Alter Rebbe ืคืกืงื ื˜ ืœื”ืœื›ื” at the end of the Gemara that you're allowed to do the first ื‘ื™ืื” ื‘ืฉื‘ืช, and he says what about ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™? So he He has all kinds of things here, but one of the things he says, ื•ืืฃ ืฉืืกืจื• ืœืคืชื•ื— ืคืชื— ืžืฉื•ื ืžืชืงืŸ ื›ืœื™, the reason you can't make this ืคืชื— is because of you're making a ื›ืœื™, ื›ืžื• ืฉื›ืชื‘ืชื™ ื‘ืกื™ืžืŸ ืฉื›ื—. So this is what he said, ื•ื›ืฉืื™ืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืคืชื— ื–ื”, and if you don't need the ืคืชื—, ืื™ืŸ ื–ื” ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœืœ ื•ืœื ืขืฉื” ื›ืœื•ื, it's not ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ and you didn't do anything, ื›ืžื• ืฉื›ืชื‘ืชื™, ื›ืžื• ืฉื ืชื‘ืืจ ืฉื, like he says there. And

When opening isnโ€™t needed โ€“ no melacha

when we look what he says in ืกื™ืžืŸ ืฉื›ื—, he says here, I'll read it: ื›ื™ื•ื•ืŸ ืฉื—ื™ื•ื‘ื• ื”ื•ื ืžืฉื•ื ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื”ืžื›ื”, which ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, ืื ื›ืŸ ื›ืฉืื™ืŸ ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื–ื”, ื•ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ ืœื•, when you don't need the ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ and you're not ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ to it, ืืฃ ืฉื ืขืฉื” ืžืื™ืœื™ื•, even though it's done by itself, ืื™ืŸ ื–ื” ื—ืฉื•ื‘ ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœืœ, it's not called ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ, ื•ื”ืจื™ ื–ื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ืœื ืขืฉื” ื•ืœื ื›ืœื•ื, so he didn't do anything. What's the pshat here? I'll explain what the pshat here is. This is all based on a Maggid Mishneh. The Maggid Mishneh on the Rambam makes a klal, which is a very logical klal. He says that the melacha of ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™ is different than any other melacha. By any melacha, and if you do something and the melacha happens by itself, operates, so happens, that would be called a ืžืœืื›ื” ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. The melacha is done, but you're not Like the example with pulling the chair. You schlepped the chair from here to there and it makes a ื—ืจื™ืฅ, and you weren't ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ to make the ื—ืจื™ืฅ. So what is it? You still made the ื—ืจื™ืฅ, you did a melacha, but since you did a melachah without kavanah, it's mutar. That's the din by ืฉื‘ืช, ืžืœืื›ืช ืžื—ืฉื‘ืช, or whatever the reason is, mutar. Every melachah like that. ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, if you were not mitkaven to it, you didn't do the ืžืœืื›ื” ื‘ื›ืœืœ. And I'll explain the logic behind it.

Kavanah and the ืฆื™ื•ืจ of each melacha

Every melachah has a certain ืฆื™ื•ืจ, certain description how it's done. Someone describes it. What is the form of doing ืžืœืื›ืช ื‘ื™ืฉื•ืœ? How would you explain? Very pashut: take a pot, and you take raw, cold water, raw, a raw piece of chicken and you put it on the fire. That is the way you do the melachah of of of bishul. How do you do the melachah of ketivah? Take a pen and you write a letter, that's ketivah. That has a ืฆื™ื•ืจ. Somebody asked you, describe to me, how do you do ืžืœืื›ืช ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™? Could be a billion ways, there's nothing, there's no ืฆื™ื•ืจ to the melachah. I could close the book. If that's the last thing to do when you make a book, closing the book is ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. If it's if it's banging with a hammer, it's banging with a There's no ืฆื™ื•ืจ to it. So if there's no ืฆื™ื•ืจ, closing a book is a ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืžื•ืชืจ. What makes it into a melachah? The kavanah! If I'm not mitkaven, it's not the pshat I did a melachah without kavanah, I did no melachah! That's what the Alter Rebbe says. And therefore, he says, if the melachah of ืคืชื— here is ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, if you're mitkaven for the ื“ื and not for the ืคืชื—, so what is it? Not the pshat it's a ืคืชื—, which is a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืœื ื‘ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, it's ื‘ื›ืœืœ not a melachah! You didn't do anything because if you didn't mitkaven for ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, it's not a melachah. That's what And then the Magid Mishneh goes ื‘ื”ืžืฉืš to that and says, according to this, you'll never be chayav according to Rabbi Shimon by ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื of ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. Because what What does Rabbi Shimon say? You're chayav by ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื if the melachah was done, but ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. So what happens? If it's a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, you're chayav, even though you were not ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. But by ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™ if you're not ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, you didn't do a melachah! So what what was what fell into ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื? ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื there is no melachah here! And therefore he says, you would not be chayav by ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื according to Rabbi Shimon by ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. That's the Magid Mishneh's klal. ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื is when you do something that's ืžื•ืชืจ and a melachah is done, so if the melachah doesn't have to be done, it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, it's ืžื•ืชืจ. If the melachah has to be done, it's a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื. So you're chayav even according to Rabbi Shimon. But if the melachah happens to be ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, happens to be ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, it has to be. No, there's no melachah. Since the ืคื•ืขืœ you were not ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ. You're not ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ, there is no melachah. So what's the pshat there is a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื and you should be chayav? Chayav for what? Mila according to Rabbi Yehuda, ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ is chayav. But the Rambam says according to Rabbi Yehuda also, if according to Rabbi Yehuda if you're not mechuvan by a ืคืกื™ืง by a ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, you would be patur also, according to according to Maggid Mishneh, because there is no melachah. When does Rabbi Yehuda say you're chayav? If you do a melachah, the melachah is ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, you're chayav. But since you're not mechuvan, there is no melachah. Right, so you're not chayav. That's what it says. I want to say a chidush, a new peshat, that the Maggid Mishneh and the Alter Rebbe don't mean that we'll never say ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื by a ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™. If there is a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื by a ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, what it does is it makes the act from not a melachah into a melachah. If you're not mechuvan for a certain melachah, for ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, it's not a melachah. But if the melachah has to happen, ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, so the kavanah you had originally transfers to that melachah. The the kavanah you have, so then it turns it into a melachah. It does, not like we think from the Maggid Mishneh it doesn't. What the Maggid Mishneh means to say is, and it'll turn it into a melachah, but it'll remain ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืœื ื‘ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, and you won't be chayav. It'll remain a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. I'll explain this a little in in a little bit better.

Pesik Reisha and Rabbi Shimon vs Yehuda

When we say according to Rabbi Shimon ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื you're ื—ื™ื™ื‘, ืื™, it's ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. Rabbi Shimon holds ืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, but and you were not ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ. The answer is very pashut. You were ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ to take it from let's say the chair from here to there. You had ื›ื•ื•ื ื”, and you know that it must make a ื—ืจื™ืฅ, so the ื›ื•ื•ื ื” you have from here transfers on the thing that you were not ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ, and that and it's called ื›ื•ื•ื ื”. That's why you're chayav. So, I want to say the same thing by ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, that since you know it's going to happen, you know that ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™ will happen, so there is ื›ื•ื•ื ื” there. And if there is the ื›ื•ื•ื ื” from here transfers to there, and it turns into a ืžืœืื›ื”. But the ื›ื•ื•ื ื” doesn't do a double job. It can't turn it into a ืžืœืื›ื” and a ืžืœืื›ื” ื‘ื›ื•ื•ื ื”, a ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. What it will do is it'll turn it into a ืžืœืื›ื” and it'll remain a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. So, but it'll be patur. You'll still be It'll still be mutar. When the Maggid Mishneh says that there is no ื—ื™ื•ื‘ according to Rabbi Shimon by ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, so normally we learn since you were not ืžื›ื•ื•ืŸ, it's not a ืžืœืื›ื”, and that's it. So, there's no ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื because there's no ืžืœืื›ื”. I'm saying the fact that it's ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื it does do one step: it changes it from not being a ืžืœืื›ื” if you wouldn't be a ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, because it has no ื›ื•ื•ื ื” ืœืžืœืื›ื”. Since it's ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื, it becomes a ืžืœืื›ื”. But it doesn't do two things: that it should become, number one, a ืžืœืื›ื” and a ืžืœืื›ื” with ื›ื•ื•ื ื”. If it's a ืžืœืื›ื” from before by itself a ืžืœืื›ื”, then the ืคืกื™ืง ืจื™ืฉื transfers the ื›ื•ื•ื ื” to the ืžืœืื›ื” and does what? Gives its ื›ื•ื•ื ื”. It's a ืžืœืื›ื” ื•ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. Without it, it is a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ, now it's a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. So Rabbi Shimon says you're chayav. But if let's say something it's not a melachah to begin with, so the pesik reisha will change it from not melachah to yea melachah, but that's it. So Rabbi Shimon will hold it's still it's still mutar. And Rabbi Yehuda will say that you're chayav. Now it's a Now it's a melachah and a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืœื ื‘ื›ื•ื•ื ื”, but according to Rabbi Yehuda, it's chayav. Right. Right. But according to Rabbi Shimon it makes a difference that it elevates it to the level of melachah. That's what That's what and that is ื ื•ื’ืข to ื›ืžื” ืขื ื™ื ื™ื in the din of ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™, which we might in other places later on talk about it. This is pshat there. This doesn't fit to Rashi, because Rashi doesn't learn that we're talking about the ืžืœืื›ื” of ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™ here. Rashi in the Gemara learns we're talking about the ืžืœืื›ื” of ืคืชื—. This

Extending logic to other melachot like ืฆื™ื“ื”

logic that the Maggid Mishneh says concerning ืชื™ืงื•ืŸ ื›ืœื™ could be said by other ืžืœืื›ื•ืช also. For instance, the Merkavat HaMishneh wants to say it by ืžืœืื›ืช ืฆื™ื“ื”. And it makes sense also. The Rebbe in a ืฉื™ื—ื” brings brings a ืžืจืื” ืžืงื•ื. Trapping. And the logic is there too: when you close the door of your house, is it a ืžืœืื›ื”? No. If there happens to be an animal there that locking it up you're not letting it out, you're ืขื•ื‘ืจ on ืžืœืื›ืช ืฆื™ื“ื”. So ืฆื™ื“ื” is also one of the things that if you have ื›ื•ื•ื ื”, it's a ืžืœืื›ื”. If you don't have kavanah, not the peshat you did ืžืœืื›ืช ืฆื™ื“ื” ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. You didn't do a melachah. You locked the door. You what? The Rebbe brings re'ayot from Gemara that he's wrong. Merkavat HaMishnah is he brings re'ayot from different dinim that it's not true. By tzidah we don't say that. This logic, in other words, tzidah is a is a melachah even without kavanah. It's a ืžืœืื›ื” ืฉืื™ื ื• ืžืชื›ื•ื•ืŸ. The Rebbe wants to say by keshirah, by making a ืงืฉืจ ืฉืœ ืงื™ื™ืžื, you have to make a kesher, and mi-d'oraita you only chayav

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