Does the Korban Pesach Override Shabbos for Everyone?
Does the Korban Pesach Override Shabbos for Everyone?
Part of Pesach
Explores whether a voluntary Korban Pesach carries the same severe consequences (karet) as the obligatory one, and how it compares to other mitzvos performed on their own schedule like tzitzis and mezuzah.
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normally know that 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, but it's so acceptable that we think that there's no it's a machloket. Actually, the Gemara in Pesachim later on, it tells a story that there was a time when they didn't know. Was once a time when it was 注专讘 驻住讞 came on 砖讘转, they didn't know if they can bring 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, and the people who were the leaders there were the Bnei Beseira, and they didn't know. And 驻讜谞拽讟 Hillel Hazaken happened to come from Bavel, and they asked him, so he made a derash: 讘诪讜注讚讜, it says in pasuk you should bring it 讘诪讜注讚讜 in its time, 讘诪讜注讚讜 讗驻讬诇讜 讘砖讘转, 讟讜诪讗讛 讗驻讬诇讜 讘砖讘转. So we know 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, but you see, the Bnei Beseira weren't so sure, and it's not something they forgot. So 注讻状驻 讚注专 Rebbe brings out that it's not a poshute zach, it's a machloket, machloket 转谞讗讬诐, Rabbi Yonatan and Rabbi Yashiyah. And the Rebbe says, what's their machloket? So he says that the machloket is really a 诪讞诇讜拽转 诇砖讬讟转讜 in many places between Rabbi Yonatan and Rabbi Yashiyah. And he says like this: this is the machloket. Normally, we assume the reason 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, just know in a few minutes, is because it's a 拽专讘谉 砖拽讘讜注 诇讜 讝诪谉, that's what the Gemara says, a 拽专讘谉 that has a set time 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, you have to bring in that 注专讘 驻住讞. And the Rebbe is 诪住讘讬专 that that's not the nekudah, that's a part of it. The main nekudah is because it's a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专. A 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专 is 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转. Every 拽专讘谉 Every 拽专讘谉 of the community 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, a 拽专讘谉 讬讞讬讚 is not. 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, the Rambam says, is a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专 讛讚讜诪讛 诇讬讞讬讚, or 讬讞讬讚 讛讚讜诪讛 诇爪讬讘讜专. He
says there are four kinds of korbanot: there is 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专, there's 拽专讘谉 讬讞讬讚, there's 讬讞讬讚 讛讚讜诪讛 诇爪讬讘讜专, and 爪讬讘讜专 讛讚讜诪讛 诇讬讞讬讚. 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 is not brought See, normal 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专 means one korban for the whole community, it's not, everyone himself, or every group themselves. On the other hand, it's brought 讘讻谞讜驻讬讗, it comes in in groups, and besides that, everyone has to bring at the same time, same day, same time. So the Rebbe learns the whole thing here, why is it 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转? Because it's a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专. And the machloket between Rabbi Yonatan and Rabbi Yashiah whether it's 讚讜讞讛 or not is because in many cases we find where they argue in this point: when you have something that has in it two two aspects, a aspect of 爪讬讘讜专 and an aspect of 讬讞讬讚, which of the two overpowers? So if you hold that the 讬讞讬讚 overpowers, we look at it more as a 拽专讘谉 讬讞讬讚, so it's not 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转. If you say that the 爪讬讘讜专 overpowers, it's a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专, 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转. So basically, it comes out that the whole reason why the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 is 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, according to the Rebbe's 讘讬讗讜专, is because it is a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专. That means you are not yourself, you are part of a unit, there is one unit. So I'm thinking like this: by other things that you don't have a chiyuv, but if you want you could do it, that won't be 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转. Because How can you How can you 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转 when there's no have to? 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专, if you say that you're allowed to bring the korban, that means you're part of the whole 爪讬讘讜专, and the whole 爪讬讘讜专 is 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转. And therefore, you We don't look at you as a 讬讞讬讚, what you're doing, we're looking at you as part of the 爪讬讘讜专 because there is only one 爪讬讘讜专 here, and the din is you're allowed to bring the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, so mimela you're allowed to It's 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, too, like 拽专讘谉 驻住讞. The fact that it's 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转 is no question, we have the re'ayah from the 诪讚讘专 where it was 砖讘转, and the Yidden had to were able to bring. And the reason could be is like the Rebbe is 诪住讘讬专, because it's a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专. And if it's a 拽专讘谉 爪讬讘讜专, it's 讚讜讞讛 砖讘转, and mimela you're able to bring it, that's why this is different than 爪讬爪讬转 and and and 诪讝讜讝讛.
There's one more point: Tosafos asks a kushya, 讜诇讻讗讜专讛 this could answer also, Tosafos asks a kushya in on 讚祝 诪状讟, Tosafos this kushya: the Gemara says that there is a 驻住讜拽 that tells us that the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 comes after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. The 拽专讘谉 驻住讞, see, no other 拽专讘谉 was allowed to be brought after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚, 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 was the last 拽专讘谉, 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 was brought after the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚. So and we have a 驻住讜拽 for it. 驻专注讙讟 Tosafos, a one-line, two-line Tosafos, 讗祝 注诇 讙讘 讚转诪讬讚 转讚讬专, 转诪讬讚 is more common, and the rule is 转讚讬专 讜砖讗讬谞讜 转讚讬专, 转讚讬专 拽讜讚诐, anything that's common common, so 转诪讬讚 obviously comes before 拽专讘谉 驻住讞. So Don't Why do you have a 驻住讜拽 for it? So Tosafos says, it's 讗祝 注诇 讙讘 讚转诪讬讚 转讚讬专, 讗讬爪讟专讬讱 诇诪讻转讘, we need a 驻住讜拽, 讚讛讜讛 讗诪讬谞讗, because I would have thought that even though it's, no it doesn't matter, 砖讛驻住讞 讬拽讚讬诐 诪砖讜诐 注诇讬讛 讛砖诇诐, because there is an 注砖讛 that the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 has to be first, has to be last. So that I would think, if not for the special 驻住讜拽, that even though there's 转讚讬专, and 讗讬谞讜 转讚讬专 comes first, but there is a 驻住讜拽 that says a 注砖讛 that's called the 注砖讛 讚讛砖诇诪讛, the 注砖讛 of being 诪砖诇讬诐, of finishing off. So since there's an 注砖讛 of being 诪砖诇讬诐, so what would we say? That no matter what, even though it's 转讚讬专, the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 has to be the last, so 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 should come before, that's why we need a pasuk. Comes come the mefarshim and ask a kushya on Tosafot. Tosafot says we would have thought that 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 is before the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 注砖讛 讚讛砖诇诪讛, but isn't there a klal, an 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转 讚讜讞讛 注砖讛 砖讗讬谉 讘讜 讻专转? The 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 is also an 注砖讛, but an 注砖讛 that has 讻专转. There's only two 拽专讘谉 two 诪爪讜转 注砖讛 that have 讻专转 Like this, wherever where's the 讻专转 in the Torah? By a 诇讗 转注砖讛. By not, by 注砖讛 there isn't, but by 诪讬诇讛 and Pesach. And the rule is, 注砖讛 that has 讻专转 is stronger than 注砖讛 砖讗讬谉 讘讜 讻专转. The 注砖讛 of 讛砖诇诪讛, the 注砖讛 that the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 is last, doesn't have 讻专转. The 注砖讛 of bringing a 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 has 讻专转. So that should come first. What did Tosafot say that if not for the special pasuk, I would have thought 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 comes first because there's an 注砖讛 of the 拽专讘谉 转诪讬讚 being the last? But this 注砖讛 of the 拽专讘谉 驻住讞 is a stronger 注砖讛, and 拽专讘谉 转讜讚讛? No, it's 讚讜讞讛. That means it comes if you have a she'elah, a question which is first, this one should be first. Yeah, in the case Yeah, we have a she'elah now, one either this or this. So we do this first. So the 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转 should be should should be docheh, should come first. Should no, should be docheh it means that it would be later, but it would be first it would be more more important. That's what they ask. Now, if
we're going to say what we said before, that people who don't have 拽专拽注 don't have to bring the Korban Pesach, but if they want to they could bring, is their Korban Pesach a 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转? 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转 means that if you don't do it, you get kares. If he doesn't do it, there's no problem. So we see that by Korban Pesach, by Korban Pesach this is not an 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转, and and it's part of the Korban Pesach. So mimela this could answer Tosafot's kashya, that we still need the pasuk. Because the pasuk without the pasuk, we would know It answers their kashya. Without the pasuk, we would know that the Korban Pesach is more important because it's considered 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转. What about those that don't have kares? It's still called an 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转. I don't know. The 砖诐 讻专转 is there. Who who would say that? I would think maybe not. No, maybe in the case where it has no kares? You can call it whatever you want, it's If it If it has no kares, 讗讝 mimela you could say that therefore The 砖诐 讻专转 is there. The Gemara brings it a lot of times that it has it's called an 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转 even though 诇讙讘讬 him it's not kares. If you're not 诪讞讜讬讬讘? Maybe in a case where you're 诪讞讜讬讬讘, but there won't be kares. But if you're not 诪讞讜讬讬讘, how could you say it's an 注砖讛 砖讬砖 讘讜 讻专转? I would say maybe it's not even an 注砖讛. Would you call it an 注砖讛? But you're 诪拽讬讬诐 the mitzvah. Mikol makom, this could answer the 转讬专讜抓, 讗讚注专 讬讗 讗讚注专 谞讬砖讟. But this
all fits if we learn that if he doesn't have to, he can still bring, and if he's still and he can still bring and 诪拽讬讬诐 the mitzvah. But al kol panim, one thing is clear that this makes a big difference between the tzitzit and mezuzah and the case of 拽专讘谉 驻住讞. Hey, what was the lesson? What was the lesson? Should I tell you what the lesson was? That also, the simple meaning, he's going to have it anyways. He's going to need a korban anyways. What? Because he's going to need to bring a korban with a