We're here towards the end of the פרק, of פרק רביעי, here, talking about person having fever. כז? הא? כז? No, no, in the middle of of ל, the end of ל. ל? Right before it should be, yeah, the middle of ל, towards the end, yeah. ל. אמר רבא, האי אישתא, this, אישתא is fever, אש, לשון אש, heat, fever. A person has, because we're talking about sick people, אי לאו דפרוונקא דמלאכא דמותא היא, it's not the fact that he is this is a שליח of the מלאך המות, היא מעליא, it's good. Fever is good for the body. The only problem is when you have fever, sometimes you never know, you're going to die from it, so ממילא it's a, but if not, it's good for you. It's מעליא כחזרא לדקלא, like the a דקל, a palm tree, so I guess it grows, around the tree grows certain protection, so this is like a protection for the person. Wow, yeah. And חד לתלתין יומין כתריקא לגופא, if you have it once in thirty days, it's like a certain mixture, certain medicine for the body. What's a detox? Oh, yeah, that's what they say? Why not? I don't know, but it says so it's good for the body, so, but the problem is, he says that this could be a שליח of the מלאך המות. אמר רב, רב נחמן בר יצחק אמר, רב נחמן בר יצחק said, לא היא ולא תריקה! I don't need it and I don't need the the the detox, whatever it does it does to your body. I don't need, I'm not taking risks, I'm not taking chances. So, Right. So it might, so that's the problem, it might kill you, yeah, but if you have it, if not for the fact that it could kill you, it's a good idea. For the body, it's good to have the fever, it burns out whatever, it doesn't say what. אמר רבה בר יונתן אמר רבי יחיאל,

רבה בר יונתן said in the name of רבי יחיאל, ארסן יפה לחולה לרפואתו. ארסן is good for a sick person to cure him. מאי ארסן? What's ארסן? I don't know. Fine. אמר רבי יונתן, רבי יונתן said, חושלא דשערי, barley that's shelled, the shell is taken off, עתיקתא, that's old, דריש נפיא, that is the first from when you sift it, the first ones that come out, that's the ones. אמר אביי, אביי said, ובעיין בישולא כבישרא דתורא, and you have to cook it so long like you cook tough meat, meat from an ox. You cook what? You cook this barley. And then when you eat that, it's good for a sick person, it's the best medicine for a sick person. Barley, shelled barley, the first ones that come out after you sift it, and if you cook it like you cook meat, hard meat. Organic. ואינדוש? רב יוסף אמר, רב יוסף says ארסן is something else: סמידא דשערי, סמידא is very fine flour of barley, עתיקתא, old, also דריש נפיא that comes out straight from the first ones that come from the sift. ואמר אביי, אביי said, ובעיין בישולא כבישרא דתורא, and you have to cook it long enough like you cook meat of an ox, like you cook tough meat.

אמר רבי יוחנן, so רבי יוחנן said, בורדם אין מבקרין אותו, a person who is sick with a sickness of בורדם, don't visit him. Now, בורדם is actually made of two words: בור דם. בור is more like a, hey, like a well, and דם is blood. That means when a person bleeds in the bottom of his body, it bleeds, don't be מבקר him. Don't don't visit him because it's very embarrassing, and you might have to go out, and it's not something that's that's that's good. ואין מזכירין שמו. If it says in the bottom of the part of the body, runs blood, and it's like a like a well, keeps on running blood. That's very dangerous, but don't go to him because it's very embarrassing, and don't even mention his name. So, so, no, so two, so רש״י has two פשטים: one is don't say the word בורדם because it's not a nice word, I guess, those days, but already mentions don't mention his name, the person's name, because it's embarrassing him. A person who has such a sickness is an embarrassing sickness, so don't mention his name. מאי טעמא? What's the reason? אמר אלעזר, מפני שהוא כמעין הנובע, is because it's like a well that's constantly flowing. But it doesn't mean only flowing from a person, it is, seems like it's also contagious, so it's like a well that goes from one place to another, so don't go see him because it's contagious. אמר רב אלעזר, רב אלעזר said, למה נקרא שמו בורדם? Why is it called בורדם? משום דדמי כמעין הנובע, because בור דם, ביר דם, it's like the דם comes from a ביר, from a well. Yeah. זאגט די גמרא ווייטער in another פרק, starts with like a a piece, the

משנה says עולם ששנו נדרים, all kinds of נדרים a person could make: קונם תבשיל שאיני טועם. A person says, I make a נדר, I shouldn't eat any תבשיל. Now תבשיל means food, but the word תבשיל comes from the word בישול, cooked, cooked food, but it's an expression. When you say different types of food, we call שני תבשילין, that's a תבשיל. אסור במעשה קדירה רך, he can't eat anything that's cooked in a pot that's soft, ומותר בעבה. But if it's something that's the consistency is very very thick, you're allowed to. So he made a נדר not to eat תבשיל. So now we're we're defining what does תבשיל is? Yeah. So he said, anything that's cooked in, but it's but it's רך, it's soft, it's it's So he said, it's always, hell? Huh? קונם תבשיל שאיני טועם. Yeah, I'm not going to eat it, I'm not going to taste it, I'm not going even get I'm not going to eat any תבשיל. So he can't eat תבשיל. What's a תבשיל? So תבשיל is anything that's cooked, but it's soft, but anything that's tough, it's hard, it's thick, the consistency's thick, that you could. פרעגט די גמרא: הוא אומר תבשיל, no doubts? Why is he allowed to eat the thick? It's still a תבשיל, it's still a it's still food, still substance, why is he allowed to? So אמר אביי, אביי said: האי תנא, this תנא that said this דין, כל מידי דמיתאכיל בריפתא תבשיל קרו ליה. Anything that you can eat with bread, that's called תבשיל, cuz that's what it always used to be. The main part of a meal is always bread, and any other thing is like I said שבת, explained it, anything that you eat with meat, chicken, eggs, fish, all these things are called ללפות בה את הפת. It's all called eat with bread. So, anything that usually you eat with bread is called תבשיל. Why couldn't you eat with bread? No, you could eat everything with every The סדר is that you eat. No one's going to eat something that's very thick to eat with bread. You eat with bread something that's soft, something But you're going to eat with bread cake? You're going to take a piece of cake with bread? פרעגט די גמרא: But והתניא, in a different ברייתא it says: הנודר מן התבשיל, someone makes a נדר not to eat any תבשיל, אסור בכל מיני תבשיל, he can't eat any types of food, ואסור בין צלי, whether it's cooked or צלי, whether it's roast it's roasted, ושלוק, whether it's hard cooked, ומבושל, or if it's cooked, ואסור בהיטריאס רכים? Now, היטריעס רע- it says here gurken. לאקשן. לאקשן. מיט א ה? No, א, לאקשן, איטריות. דא זה איטריות. Yeah. This I think is like pumpkin or something, it's a kind of it's a kind of vegetable. Even if it's soft, why? But we just said Raw food diet. Huh? Raw food diet, it's a vegan. Huh? Yeah, but how does, but you just said that the תנא holds only things that you eat with bread. This this you don't eat with bread. But the גמרא answers: שהחולין אוכלין בהן פיתן. Yes, a person who is sick eats his bread together with this. So, it is something that's eaten with bread, whatever But it's not cooked. Huh? But it's not cooked. It's probably not cooked. But it's not roasted. Or it's too thick. I don't know, maybe it's thick. Or it's raw, yeah, yeah, probably raw. Has to be raw. Yeah, yeah. It's raw, but still they eat it with with bread. Because bread is cooked. Bread is baked, but it didn't say baked here, right? Didn't use the word baked. But that's not תבשיל. תבשיל is something that you eat with bread, not bread itself. So you can use all the words for frying, roasting, baking. Frying, cooking around, and cooking, צלי. And he doesn't he didn't say baked, and he didn't say steamed. כבוש. That, yeah. That we find in שולחן ערוך, מבושל. Yeah. פרעגט די גמרא, you're saying me now? But the גמרא asks: איני? It's not so. והא רבי ירמיה חלש, רבי ירמיה got sick. על לגביה ההוא אסיא לאסוייה, came this doctor to cure him. חזא קרא דמונח בביתיה. So he saw קרא קרא. What's קרא? What's in Hebrew קרא? It's a pumpkin, or it's a דלעת. Squash. Squash. קרא, קלבאסה. קלבאסה? I don't know. יכול להיות קרא. זה קרא. קרא, what's קרא? What does it look like? קלבאסה. What's קלבאסה? It's a squash. Squash, it's a gourd. Okay, whatever. Yeah, okay, squash. So he saw it in his house. The doctor walked into the guy's house, saw this קרא there. שבקיה, he left him, and off he went out.

אמר, he said: מלאך המוות אית ליה דין בביתיה. This guy has a מלאך המוות in his house! ואנא עייל לאסוייה? ואנא, yes, I'm going to go cure him? Loose. He said, but eating this stuff is poison. Oh. So I'm going to go here and cure him when he's eating poison? What what is it going to help? So doctors look at things. I once we were talking once with the doctor, you know Dr. Goldberg? You know who, Lee? Lee, Lee. So he once, you know, talking with him. So we're talking about פסח. So פסח we eat שמאלץ. שמאלץ? שמאלץ is poison. He tells me like this, \"If I'd walk into your house on פסח, just as a visit, and I'd see שמאלץ in your kitchen, I wouldn't ask you, I would walk over, take the jar, and throw it in the garbage. That's how poison it is.\" the doctor, poison. So, this guy said you have poison, he said, \"You have the מלאך המות in your house.\" מה זה? שמאלץ זה שומן... שמאלץ זה שומן של תרנגולים. Yeah, did he ever come to a פארברענגען in the basement? I don't know, what did he throw in the garbage? What's he know about another regular house? שמאלץ. So, that goes to show. No, it's not like that. No, שמאלץ the doctors say that's שמאלץ is known for arteries, it's cholesterol, that's what, not because, not because of these... No, that's not going to throw your cake in the... like you would probably. Well, we never invite this doctor. I'm not inviting him for פסח. He's following, he's following. Anyway, so the גמרא has a קשיא. Before we say that sick people eat this with their bread, and obviously it's good for sick people, sick people. And here the doctor said it's poison, it's the same thing. So, the גמרא לא קשיא, it's no קשיא, it depends. הא ברכיכי, הא באשוני. Depends if it's soft or if it's hard. If it's soft, it's good. If the hard ones, if they're dried up and hard, it's no good, the קרא. קרא. רבה בר עולא אמר, רבה בר עולא said a different תירוץ, הא בקרא גופיה הא בלבי דקרא. Depends, there is the קרא itself and then there's the inside. So, the string itself is no good, but the inside, I guess the heart of it, whatever that part, that is good for sick people.

ואמר רב יהודה, רב יהודה said, ולולבי, ולולבי דקרא בסילקא. ולולבי, the inside of the קרא you should eat with סילקא, תרדין. What's תרדין? תרד. תרד, what's תרד? תרד, the leaves, what do you call it? Beet leaves? Huh? Beet leaves, no? תרד, yeah, what do you call that leaf? The guy, what I thought it was like radishes. איך קוראים ל... the green leaf that you, in the restaurant, with the salad? Watercress? Watercress? No, spinach. Spinach? Spinach, yeah. Spinach, yeah. Spinach. Spinach. Okay. Okay, so he says the inside of the קרא you eat with spinach, it's good. ולולבי דכיתנא, the inside of the the seeds of the flax, there's the flax and then there's seeds inside, that you should eat בכותח, with כותח. Flaxseed. Very big deal now, flaxseed is a very big deal. Yeah? And כותח, כותח used to be like a type of dip that we know in שולחן ערוך is brought down in two cases. It's brought down in הלכות בשר בחלב, and it's brought down הלכות חמץ, because they used to make it with milk, actually not with milk, with sour milk, with I guess with cream or something, and with breadcrumbs. So there's a lot of dealing with it in חמץ if something happened with כותח, and a lot of dealing in בשר בחלב. But that's a kind of dip they used to have. So he says the inside of this, the כיתנא, flax, those seeds, that's good with כותח. Very, very big in healing, for well, flaxseeds, flaxseed oil. Flax, yeah? Wow, very good. Things are going back, coming back. Did they say you should eat it? No, I mean coming back that it's a style, that people make a big deal of it. Okay,

ודבר זה אסור לאומרו בפני עם הארץ, don't say this to an עם הארץ, because if he's going to hear how good these flaxseeds are, he's going to go to someone's house, someone's field, and steal the, take out all the seeds, it's no good. So to a person who you can't trust, don't say it to him, but between us we can say that we should know that this is healthy. רבא אמר, רבא says a different פשט. Said maybe because he won't tithe it. No, no, no, like מעשר. They'll make a חורבן there. רבא has a different thing. What was the קשיא? The קשיא was that here it says that they eat, the חולין, the sick people eat it with the bread, that stuff, and the doctor said that it's poison. So he says, for a regular sick person it's like a poison, but מאן חולין? Who are the sick people who eat it? רבנן! תלמידי חכמים are called sick people. Why? Because if you learn תורה, it says תורה מתשת כוחו של אדם, and it makes you weak, so they're always weak, they're always, you know, sickly. So for them it's good. ורבא לטעמיה, רבא said, where do we see that רבא considers them sick? דאמר רבא, רבא said, כמאן מצלינן אקצירי ואמריעי? כמאן? כרבי יוסי. Now, it has to do with something else. He says every day we say רפאנו, and we're asking the אייבערשטער should cure the sick people. What do you mean every day we ask? Isn't everything settled already on ראש השנה, what's going to happen, if a person will be sick and will be healthy? So why do we דאווען? So it goes, he says, כרבי יוסי. רבי יוסי holds, אדם נידון בכל יום. Okay. But in the meantime, when he spoke about דאווענען for the sick, he used two לשונות: קצירי ומריעי. Now, קצירי means regular sick people, in Aramaic קצירי means sick people. What's מריעי? מריעי is also רע, someone who's feeling bad. But מדאמר, since he uses the לשון קצירי ומריעי, two types, שמע מינה קצירי is קצירי ממש, קצירי refers to real sick people, simple sick people. מריעי is the רבנן. The חכמים are called מריעי because since they learn תורה, they're always weak, so they're called מריעי. So those are the people that eat this this stuff dipped in in in in bread, bread together with bread. The חולה is גימטריא forty-nine, no? Yeah. So, it's one short of the חמישים? Fifty, yeah. So... So, that's why they're that's why they're sick. They're lovesick. They're sick to the, they want to get to the חמישים. Wants to get to the חמישים. It's called חולת אהבה. They have אהבה to השם, and they can't get there yet. Yeah. How did the sick people come in like into the... Because he brought before, why can't we, if a person makes a נדר not to eat a תבשיל, he can't eat this אטריות. Why can't he eat it? Because we just said before that only things that you eat with bread, right, this is not something you eat with bread, so he said, \"Yeah, the sick people eat it with bread.\" So, that so came out that this, to eat this stuff is good for sick people. And then we had a קשיא, that the doctor said that this is poison. Not good, right. So, we answered. A few תירוצים: one תירוץ is the soft or hard, another תירוץ we answered, it is the inside or the outside part of it. And another תירוץ is, for a regular sick person, it's no good, but these sick people and the חכמים who are also רבנן who are considered sick people because they are always weak, for them, it's good. Said in the משנה, מותר בעבה, that if he said, \"I'm not going to eat תבשיל,\" he can't eat stuff that's soft, but thick stuff he can. So, the גמרא says, מתניתין דלא כבבלאי. The משנה doesn't go according to the people from בבל, because אמר רב זירא, רב זירא said, בבלאי טפשאי. The fools fools of בבל. Why are they foolish? דאכלי לחמא בלחמא. They eat bread with bread. Yeah, they eat bread and they eat another piece, they eat rye bread with with with white bread. You have to eat two things, you know, you have to like eat bread with meat or something, they eat two breads. אמר רב חסדא, רב חסדא said, נשיילין להין להלין נקדני דהוצא. Let's ask these people who are מדייק, people who are big מבינים in food from הוצא. הוצא was a city in בבל. Let's ask them like this: הדין דייסא, when you're going to eat a porridge, like a, היכא מעליא למיכליה? Which one is better to eat: דחיטי ולחמא דחיטי, or דסעירי ולחמא דסעירי? Is it better to eat a porridge, like a soup made of barley with bread of barley, and a soup or not a soup, a porridge made of of of wheat with a bread of wheat, אידילמא maybe the different way: דחיטי ובדסעירי, a porridge made of wheat, we should eat with barley bread, דסעירי, a porridge made of barley, with דחיטי? So, he says that's how he That's what you talk to them. The whole thing is stupid. Who eats a food of wheat, a porridge of wheat, together with bread of wheat? Or bread בכלל? So, our משנה doesn't follow what the טיפשים of בבל do. It's the other place the גמרא also calls them, חמי הא בבלאי טפשאי. They called the בבליים they call them טיפשים, they used to do funny things. The רבנן? Huh? The רבנן? No. Oh, just ordinary. No, סתם המון עם, סתם people. זאגט די גמרא: רבא אכיל בחסיסי. The טיפשים had a, they had a purpose, they had a reason for it. It was food, I mean. I don't know. They liked things which most people don't, so they're called טיפשים. רבא ate bread with חסיסי. What's חסיסי? So,

רש״י says, in גמרא פסחים it seems like flour made of barley, a little, the seeds of barley that didn't ripen, just a third grown, and they used to dry it in the sun, in the oven, or in the sun, and they would take off, and that was something that was had a certain taste. And רבא would eat that with with bread, whatever. רבה בר רב הונא אשכחיה לרב הונא. רבה בר רב הונא met רב הונא דקאכיל דייסא באצבעתיה, ate porridge with his fingers. אמר ליה, he said to him, מאי קאכיל מר בידיה? Why are you eating with your hands? Can't you eat with a spoon or fork? אמר ליה, so he said, הכי אמר רב, this is what רב said: דייסא באצבע, אוסא בסים. Porridge to eat with your fingers is געשמאק. וכל דכן בתרתין, certainly if you eat not with one finger, but with two fingers. וכל דכן בתלת, if you eat with three fingers, is נאך בעסער. אמר ליה, now רב חייא בריה, רב said to his son רב חייא, וכן אמר ליה רב הונא לרבה בריה, רב הונא said to his son רבה: מזימנין לך למיכל דייסא, if they if they someone invites you to eat with him דייסא, this porridge, עד פרסה. Two פשטים: one פשט is it'll give you you'll feel full only as far as it takes to walk a פרסה, then you'll get hungry again. Or another פשט: he invites you only if all you have to go is a פרסה to get it, go. But not more, it's not so great. But למיכל בישרא דתורא, to invite you to eat meat, עד תלתא פרסי. Two פשטים: one is that it'll stay with you for three פרסאות, another פשט is, even if you'll have to walk three פרסאות to eat a good steak, go there and eat it. It means both. Huh? And even if you eat it, then you can still walk, you walk. It could be both, but it's a פשט of what the גמרא meant. Okay. Doesn't it also say somewhere it's disgusting to eat with your hands? Eat with your hands, a תלמיד חכם eating with his hands? No, some people on שבת would eat fish with their hands. Right, for שבת it's a מצוה, so you don't want to give away the מצוה to a כלי, you want to use your hand. And there's a רמז: דגי הים בידכם ניתנו. That's a פסוק. The fish I gave into your hands, so it means you have to eat it with your hands.