Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai's Thirteen Years in a Cave
Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai's Thirteen Years in a Cave
Part of Jewish History · 22:58
The famous story of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai and his son hiding in a cave from the Romans, their reaction on emerging to a materialistic world, and Pinchas ben Yair's visit.
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mentioned a name, that there was Yehuda ben, let's see the 诇砖讜谉 here, 转谞讜 专讘谞谉, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讘讬 讗诇注讗讬, 专讬砖 讛诪讚讘专讬诐 讘讻诇 诪拽讜诐. Rabbi Yehuda ben Rabbi Elai, he was the 专讬砖 讛诪讚讘专讬诐. He was always the head, the first guy to speak. So the Gemara asks, 讗诪讗讬 拽专讜 诇讬讛 专讬砖 讛诪讚讘专讬诐 讘讻诇 诪拽讜诐? Why do we call him the 专讬砖 讛诪讚讘专讬诐? That's his title, he's like the 讬讜砖讘 专讗砖. Every 讗住讬驻讛, he was the, the 讬讜砖讘 专讗砖. Over Rav Shimon. Over Rav Shimon. Yeah, so the Gemara explains why. 讚讬转讘讬, because there was once a story that 讚讬讬转讘讬 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讜专讘讬 讬讜住讬 讜专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉. The, the at the bottom here, why amai, a few lines from, from huh? Rabbi Yehuda ben Rabbi Elai. Yeah, stam, yeah. So Rabbi Yehuda and Rabbi Yosi and Rav Shimon were sitting together 讜讬转讬讘 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 讙专讬诐 讙讘讬讬讛讜. And Yehuda ben Gerim sat amongst them. 驻转讞 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讜讗诪专, so Rabbi Yehuda got up and he said, 讻诪讛 谞讗讬诐 诪注砖讬讛诐 砖诇 讗讜诪讛 讝讜! Look how nice is the actions of this nation. Of the, of the Romans. 转拽谞讜 砖讜讜拽讬诐, look what they did for the, for the community, for the 爪讬讘讜专! They made streets, 转拽谞讜 讙砖专讬诐, they made bridges, 转拽谞讜 诪专讞爪讗讜转, they made bathhouses. They did things. 专讘讬 讬讜住讬 砖转拽, Rabbi Yosi was quiet. He didn't answer. 谞注谞讛 专讘 砖诪注讜谉 讘谉 讬讜讞讗讬 讜讗诪专, Rav Shimon got up and he said, 讻诇 诪讛 砖转拽谞讜 诇讗 转拽谞讜 讗诇讗 诇爪讜专讱 注爪诪谉. Whatever they did, they didn't mean anything. They meant it all for themselves. 转拽谞讜 砖讜讜拽讬诐 诇讛讜砖讬讘 讘讛谉 讝讜谞讜转, to put 讝讜谞讜转 there. 诪专讞爪讗讜转, they made bathhouses 诇注讚谉 讘讛谉 注爪诪谉, that they themselves should be able to, for themselves, they didn't care about others, just for themselves. 讙砖专讬诐 诇讬讟讜诇 讘讛谉 诪讻住, they made the bridges in order to take tolls, just to get money. It's all for the, it doesn't mean anything for the community.
讛诇讱 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 讙专讬诐 讜住讬驻专 讚讘专讬讛诐. Now Yehuda ben Gerim went and repeated what they said. Now he didn't repeat it to the government, Rashi says, he repeated it to somebody else. And these things should stay inside things, so he went and told it over, Rashi says, either to his father and mother, his wife, I guess, you told her, and what happened? 讜谞砖诪注讜 诇诪诇讻讜转, finally, it got to the government. Wasn't lashon hara? Huh? Wasn't lashon hara to talk like this? He wasn't talking about a Jewish person. It was about the Romans. But how was it lashon hara? It depends who. Yeah. No, but it's about the Shimon ben Yochai's lashon hara that they that they repeated it. Okay? But you see what happened? 讗诪专讜, so the government said, 讬讛讜讚讛 砖注讬诇讛 讬转注诇讛, 讬讛讜讚讛 who's who praised us, we're putting him the position he should become the 专讗砖 讛诪讚讘专讬诐. We gave him the highest position. 讬讜住讬 砖砖转拽 讬讙诇讛 诇爪讬驻讜专讬. Rabbi Yosi who was quiet, so we're going to force him to go to exile to Tzipori. and 砖诪注讜谉 砖讙讬谞讛, 砖诪注讜谉 who insulted them, 讬讛专讙, has to get killed. Why was that exile, wasn't that where the Sanhedrin was? I guess he lived somewhere else. Oh, it was better. Huh? That was better. It's like, \"Better, why didn't you go yourself?\" Probably got a reason not to be there. 讗讝诇 讛讜讗, You might say where he lived was better. Oh, it must have been where he lived was better.
讗讝诇 讛讜讗 讜讘专讬讛, so he and his son went, 讟砖讜 讘讬 诪讚专砖讗, they hid in the 讘讬转 诪讚专砖, the government shouldn't catch him. They ran away from home. 讻诇 讬讜诪讗 讜讬讜诪讗, everyday 讛讜讛 诪讬讬转讬 诇讛讜 讚讘讬转讛讜 专讬驻转讗 讜讻讜讝讗 讚诪讬讗 讜讻专讻讬. Everyday his wife would bring them a piece of bread, a drink of water, and they would eat. 讻讬 转拽讬祝 讙讝讬专转讗, when the gzeira became stronger, which means they started searching for him more, I mean, they started tightening the noose around him, 讗诪专 诇讬讛 诇讘专讬讛, so he said to his son, 谞砖讬诐 讚注转谉 拽诇讛 注诇讬讛谉, women have their mind is not so strong, 讚讬诇诪讗 诪爪注专讬 诇讛, they might torture her 讜诪讙诇讬讗 诇谉, and she's going to tell them where we are. So 讗讝诇讜, they went, 讟砖讜 讘诪注专转讗, they went and they hid in a cave. And tell his wife? Huh? And not to tell his wife? Maybe told her, but didn't tell her where. 讗讬转专讞讬砖 谞讬住讗, a nes happened, 讗讬讘专讬 诇讛讜 讞专讜讘讗, a carob tree started growing there, 讜注讬谞讗 讚诪讬讗, and a flow of water started going there. 讜讛讜讜 诪砖诇讞讬 诪谞讬讬讛讜, and what they would do is they would take off their clothes, 讜讛讜讜 讬转讘讬 注讚 爪讜讗专讗 讘讞诇讗, in other words, they they knew they were going to stay there for a long time, and the clothes are going to rot rot, so they took all their clothes, but in order to cover themselves, they would sit in sand. 讻讜诇讬 讬讜诪讗 讙专住讬, davened all day.
讘注讬讚谉 爪诇讜转讗, when they wanted to daven, they learned all day, I mean, when they wanted to daven, 诇讘砖讜 诪讬讻住讜, and they took on put on their clothes, and they davened. 讜讛讚专 诪砖诇讞讬 诪谞讬讬讛讜, and then they took it off again, 讻讬 讛讬讻讬 讚诇讗 诇讬讘诇讜, they they leave them in order it shouldn't get rotten, it shouldn't get ruined the clothes. Cuz the more you wear it, the more it gets ruined, so they only wore it a little bit to the davening. 讬转讬讘讜 转专讬住专 砖谞讬 讘诪注专转讗, they sat they stayed in the cave for 12 years. 讗转讗 讗诇讬讛讜 讜拽诐 讗驻讬转讞讗 讚诪注专转讗, so came 讗诇讬讛讜 and he stood on the door of the cave, 讗诪专, and he said, 诪讗谉 诇讜讚注讬讛 诇讘专 讬讜讞讬 讚诪讬转 拽讬住专? Who's going to tell Bar Yochai, R' Shimon ben Yochai, that the king died, Caesar died, 讜讘讟讬诇 讙讝讬专转讬讛, and the gzeira is 讘讟诇. I don't know if officially they were 诪讘讟诇 the gzeira, or bichlal the laws were that when the king dies, the decrees go away. 谞驻拽讜, so they obviously they heard it, so they realized that this is a siman to them that the gezeirah is over, now they don't have to hide anymore, they can go out. The Alter Rebbe says: what did he do in the cave for 12 years? What did he learn there? Nigleh. He said nigleh. And then he said why nigleh? Because to write the Zohar, for that you need 12 years? Three months you can do it. Three months? The Alter Rebbe knew, in three months you can write the Zohar. Anyway, okay, 转专\"住 驻专拽讬诐. 谞驻拽讜, so they went out.
讞讝讜 讚讗讬谞砖讬 讚拽讗 讻专讘讬 讜讝专注讬, they went out and they were so involved all these 12 years in learning they couldn't imagine there's somebody working and not learning Torah, bitul Torah. Came out and saw Yidden, plowing, planting. 讗诪专, said, 诪谞讬讞讬谉 讞讬讬 注讜诇诐 讜注讜住拽讬谉 讘讞讬讬 砖注讛, they're leaving eternal life, Torah, and they're involved in 讞讬讬 砖注讛, in gashmiyusdike things. So they were makpid. 讻诇 诪拽讜诐 砖谞讜转谞讬谉 注讬谞讬讛谉, so anybody they looked at, 诪讬讚 谞砖专祝, people got burnt. Yeah, both of them. R'' Shimon bar Yochai also they, because to them this was something, and they were makpid, so you imagine such tzadikim, especially after the cave, there was burnt. 讬爪转讛 讘转 拽讜诇 讜讗诪专讛, wait, that's later. No, right. That's why a 讘转 拽讜诇 came out 讜讗诪专讛, the 讘转 拽讜诇 of 讛', 诇讛讞专讬讘 注讜诇诪讬 讬爪讗转诐? You came out to destroy My world? 讞讬讝专讜 诇诪注专转讻诐, go back to the cave! 讛讚讜专 讗讝讜诇, they went back. 讬转讬讘讜, they stayed there 转专讬住专 讬专讞讬 砖转讗, they stayed there for another 12 months. 讗诪专讬, and they said, 诪砖驻讟 专砖注讬诐 讘讙讬讛谞诐 讬\"讘 讞讜讚砖, even a 专砖注 is only in 讙讬讛谞诐 for 12 months, so we have 12 months is enough already for us to refine ourselves. 讬爪转讛 讘转 拽讜诇 讜讗诪专讛, so now a voice came out from heaven and it said, 爪讗讜 诪诪注专转讻诐, now you can go out of the cave. 谞驻拽讜, they went out. Now, what happened was that R'' Elazar still wasn't that high madreigah, he still couldn't take it. So R'' Elazar still at this moment, the son, every place he looked, any person who was working, he looked, they got burnt. So 讻诇 讛讬讻讗 讚讛讜讛 诪讞讬 专' 讗诇注讝专 讛讜讛 诪住讬 专' Shimon. Wherever Rabbi' Elazar looked and punished, punished means he destroyed it, so Rabbi' Shimon looked and got cured. So they were able they were to last. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, yeah 讘驻讬专讜砖 诪讞讬讛 诪转讬诐, yeah. 讗诪专 诇讬讛 and then only Rabbi' Shimon got to it. Only Rabbi' Shimon got to it. So 讗诪专 诇讬讛 and Rabbi' Shimon said to him, 讘谞讬, my son, 讚讬 诇注讜诇诐 讗谞讬 讜讗转讛. It's enough me and you for the world to be such a level of not having of being involved in 讙砖诪讬讜转. Everybody can't take that, so 诪诪讬诇讗 slow down. Okay. 讘讛讚讬 驻谞讬讗 讚诪注诇讬 砖讘转讗, it was the night of Erev Shabbat, it was Erev Shabbat, yeah, evening before Shabbat. 讞讝讜, they saw, 讛讛讜讗 住讘讗, they saw this old man, 讚讛讜讛 谞拽讬讟 转专讬 诪讚讗谞讬 讚讗住讗, he was
holding two leaves of 讛讚住讬诐. But, that's that's the source in our 诇讬讟讗'讬砖注 驻讗诇拽. Hungarians they do that. Took two things, and he was running, 讜专讛讬讟, and was running 讘讬谉 讛砖诪砖讜转. 讘讬谉 讛砖诪砖讜转, right before 砖讘转 he was running with it. 讗诪专讜 诇讬讛, they stopped, they looked at him, 讛谞讬 诇诪讛 诇讱? Why are you taking two things of of 讛讚住讬诐? 讗诪专 诇讛讜, so he said, 诇讻讘讜讚 砖讘转! For 砖讘转, 诇讻讘讜讚 砖讘转, to have a good smell. So they asked him, 讜转住讙讬 诇讱 讘讞讚? Why two? One would be enough. So he answered, 讞讚 讻谞讙讚 讝讻讜专 讜讞讚 讻谞讙讚 砖诪讜专. Since by Shabbat it says: 讝讻讜专 讗转 讬讜诐 讛砖讘转 and 砖诪讜专 讗转 讬讜诐 讛砖讘转, so one for 讝讻讜专 and one for 砖诪讜专. This is the makor that by licht also we bench at least two licht, one for zachor, one for shamor. And this inyan of taking the hadasim, I mean, I know a lot of people do that. Not only Yemenites. Yemenites, other Sefardim, besides, I know of Chasidish people. That's a difference, someone. Some think so. Carrying, yeah, it's just like you buy, some people buy flowers 注专讘 砖讘转, you know, to bring home. Yeah, but they used the 讛讚住讬诐 讚讜讜拽讗. Hadasim have a good smell. 讗诪专 诇讬讛 诇讘专讬讛, so 专' 砖诪注讜谉 said to his son, 讞讝讬, look, 讻诪讛 讞讘讬讘讬谉 诪爪讜转 注诇 讬砖专讗诇! Look how Yidden love mitzvot, that for Shabbos they're running to get this. 讬转讬讘 讚注转讬讬讛讜, so that they calmed down. First they thought look at the people! People are involved in gashmiyus, it's terrible! Not so terrible, the Yidden are not so bad! Yidden are behaving properly, look how they love the mitzvot. 砖诪注 专' 驻谞讞住, 专' 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专, huh? No, that means it, but it means before sheki'ah, yeah.
砖诪注 专' 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 讞转谞讬讛 讜谞驻拽 诇讗驻讬讛. 专' 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 was the father-in-law of 专' 砖诪注讜谉 讘谉 讬讜讞讬. He heard that he's coming, so he went to greet him. 注讬讬诇讬讛 诇讘讬 讘谞讬, they went into a bath house, 讛讜讛 拽讗专讬讱 诇讘讬砖专讬讛, and he was trying to to straighten out his skin. 讞讝讗 讚讛讜讛 讘讬讛 驻讬诇讬 讚讙讜驻讬讛, the father-in-law was trying to 专讘 砖诪注讜谉, trying to clean him because he sat, imagine, for 12 years, 13 years in sand, their body in sand without clothes. You can imagine what it did. So they saw 驻讬诇讬 讚讙讜驻讬讛, they saw all kinds of cracks in the skin of the body. 讛讜讛 拽讗 讘讻讬, so 专讘 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 was crying. 拽讗 谞转专谉 讚诪注转 注讬谞讬讛, so when he cried, the tears came down, and he was standing next to 专讘 砖诪注讜谉, it came down on 专讘 砖诪注讜谉. So tears tears are salty, so it burned him, 讜拽讗 诪爪讜讞 诇讬讛, so he started screaming, made him scream. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so 专讘 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 said to his son-in-law, 讗讜讬 诇讬 砖专讗讬转讬讱 讘讻讱, 讗讜讬 to me that this is how I see you. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so he said, 讗砖专讬讱 砖专讗讬转谞讬 讘讻讱, you should be happy that you see me this way. 讗诇诪诇讗 诇讗 专讗讬转谞讬 讘讻讱, 诇讗 诪爪讗转 讘讬 讻讱. If you wouldn't see me this, you wouldn't find me this way. In other words, if you wouldn't see me this way, I wouldn't have reached the high madregot that I reached, that I reached such high 诪讚专讙讜转 讚讜讜拽讗 through the cave. And the Gemara says what what what madregot did we see? Actually in 谞讙诇讛, 讚诪注讬拽专讗, at first, before he went into the cave, since Rabbi Pinchas ben Yair was his father-in-law, he was a bigger talmid chacham than him. Who? Rabbi Pinchas ben Yair. 讚讛讜讛 诪拽砖讬 专讘 砖诪注讜谉 讘谉 讬讜讞讗讬 拽讜砖讬讗, Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai would ask a 拽讜砖讬讗, 讛讜讛 诪驻专拽 诇讬讛 专讘 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 转专讬住专 驻讬专讜拽讬, 专讘 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 would give him 12 tirutzim. In other words, things that he didn't know, his father-in-law knew. 诇住讜祝, at the end, now, 讻讚讛讜讛 诪拽砖讬 专讘 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专, 专讘 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 would ask him a 拽讜砖讬讗, 讛讜讛 诪驻专拽 诇讬讛 专讘 砖诪注讜谉 讘谉 讬讜讞讗讬 讻状讚 驻讬专讜拽讬, 专讘 驻谞讞住 would ask, he'd give him 25, 24 tirutzim. And where did he get all this great 诇诪讚讜转? In the cave. So he says, you should be happy that you saw me this way, because of this I I gained madregot. This is in learning, but you can imagine in ruchniyut, in in like the Frierdiker Rebbe said that being in jail, well, this is like like jail, the madregah that he reached says that he said he wouldn't sell one minute of being in jail for a million dollars. So someone asked him, would you go back if we give you a million dollars? So he said, I wouldn't go back for one minute for a million dollars, but I wouldn't sell a minute for Who was that, Alter Rebbe? Neyn, the Frierdiker, Frierdiker Rebbe. Is that if 驻谞讞住 讘谉 讬讗讬专 砖讛讞诪讜专 砖诇讜 诇讗 讗讻诇 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a sort of a gam zu letovah outlook, you might say? Or, yeah. What? Gam zu So that the outlook comes the same. No, it's not gam zu letovah is before, you see even before, before you see anything bad, you say it'll be good. No, here he saw, actually, he saw I was there, and I was able to learn much better, and I reached high madregot in gashmiyut, in ruchniyut, and in learning. 讗诪专, he said, 讛讜讗讬诇 讜讗讬转专讞讬砖 谞讬住讗, since a nes happened to me to be saved from this cave, 讗讬讝讬诇 讗讬转拽谉 诪讬诇转讗, let me do something. The first thing I want to do is do something for people. The Rebbe always uses, every Lag BaOmer the Rebbe would speak about this Gemara. Like you see that when a person wants to thank der Eibershter, what do you What is the first thing to do? Do something for other Yidden, Ahavat Yisrael, like you say that Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, I want to do something for other Yidden, so I want to do I want to fix something. 讚讻转讬讘, where it says, he quoted the pasuk, it says, 讜讬讘讗 讬注拽讘 砖诇诐, it says after Yaakov was by Lavan for all these years, 20 years, he left Lavan, he came complete. 讗诪专 专讘, Rav said that means 砖诇诐 讘讙讜驻讜, he came complete with his body even though he was limping for a while, Hashem cured it. 砖诇诐 讘诪诪讜谞讜, that he was complete with his money even though he gave away a lot of money to Esav, the presents, Der Eibershter gave it back. 砖诇诐 讘转讜专转讜, he came back complete with his Torah. And it says 讜讬讞谉 讗转 驻谞讬 讛注讬专, and after it says he stayed, he lived in front of the city of Shechem, 讗诪专 专讘, Rav said, what did he do? 诪讟讘注 转讬拽谉 诇讛诐, he was metaken something for them, he was metaken a a coin that they should be able to use currency, a coin. 砖诪讜讗诇 讗诪专, Shmuel said, 砖讜讜拽讬诐 转讬拽谉 诇讛诐, he was metaken for them that they should make how to make roads, how to make stores, a place. 讜专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉 讗诪专 诪专讞爪讗讜转 转讬拽谉 诇讛诐, he made for them 诪专讞爪讗讜转, bath houses. In other words, he did something for their benefit. So Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai did the same thing. I also came out complete, I'm learning more, so let me do something. So what did he So amar, so he said to the people, 讗讬讻讗 诪讬诇转讗 讚讘注讬 诇转拽讜谞讬, is there anything here that need a tikun, that you guys need help to fix?
讗诪专讜 诇讬讛, they said, yeah, 讗讬讻讗 讚讜讻转讗, there's a place around here, 讚讗讬转 讘讬讛 住驻拽 讟讜诪讗讛, that there is a safek if there's a met there, and where they buried a met, they don't know where exactly, so they couldn't be there, 讚讗讬转 诇讬讛 爪注专讗 诇讻讛谞讬诐 诇讗拽讜驻讬, and the kohanim, in other words, there was one met, but they didn't know the whole area, so the kohanim couldn't go anywhere, so they have to go all around, so it makes it hard for them. So mimela, that needs a fixing. So okay, he said, I'll try to fix it. Amar, he said, 讗讬讻讗 讗讬谞讬砖 讚讬讚注 讚讗讬转讞讝拽 讛讻讗 讟讛专讛, he said, so he made an announcement, anyone here knows or would remember from years before which place is tahor, which place is tamei? 讗诪专 诇讬讛 讛讛讜讗 住讘讗, so this old man said to him, yeah, 讻讗谉 拽讬爪抓 讘谉 讝讻讗讬 转讜专诪住讬 转专讜诪讛. He says, in one this place, that place, I remember ben Zakkai, who was a kohen, he was was used to plant terumah here and take out from here the terumah and use it. Obviously, if he did it, and this guy is a 注讚, testified he did it, we know it's tahor. 注讘讚 讗讬讛讜 谞诪讬 讛讻讬. So he said, \"I'll try, I'll test it out also.\" So he planted the whole place with, I guess, with 转专讜诪讛, 讜讻诇 讛讬讻讗 讚讛讜讛 拽砖讬讗 讟讛专讬讛, and he said like this, any place which the earth remained hard, he said that's tahor. 讜讻诇 讛讬讻讗 讚讛讜讛 专驻讬 爪讬讬谞讬讛. Wherever it was soft, he made a siman that it's tamei. Why? Because what happened was wherever the met, if there was ever a dead, whichever place had a dead body, it started coming up, and it softened the ground. And wherever it didn't have... Oh before, yeah, but he didn't dig now. It was soft before, but he didn't, so he could have measured, could have walked around and felt it. Couldn't feel it, this was a nes. It says that the met came up and made the ground soft, u-memilla he knew which place is tamei and which place is tahor. Okay. So he was 诪转拽谉 something. What? You know what, when it says he did this, I don't know if he did it with terumah, I said terumah, but it says he did 转专讜诪转 转专讜诪讛, but Rashbi, could be he just planted. And that was a nes, he takeh didn't plant 转专讜诪讛, 住转诐 because of what you're saying. No. How would he know? In 讙砖诪讬讜转, he plant, how do you know if it's a met there or not? No, became softer, but that came through a nes. The corpse, that the corpse came up. That the the met came up the ground and made the place soft. That was a Just yeah, and just because what the nes, because he wanted to help. HaAri, HaAri zal when he went to Tzefat He pointed out. He knew. buried there after after the earthquake. Yeah, yeah, and most of the 拽讘专讬诐 in Eretz Yisrael came from the HaAri zal. HaAri zal, so he said this is This is this is Rashbi So he cannot see it, Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai cannot see it? I guess he didn't want to use the ruach hakodesh. I'll tell you, for 讟讜诪讗讛 讜讟讛专讛, 讛诇讻讛, you can't use ruach hakodesh. What he did is for knowing which place is a holy place to daven, that you could use ruach hakodesh. With ruach hakodesh can't pasken that this place is tahor, because I have ruach hakodesh that that there's no met there. Cannot use No, 转讜专讛 诇讗 讘砖诪讬诐 讛讬讗. You got to use, you know, Talmud. He also find the mikveh, HaAri zal, he say, \"Here, if you dig here...\" Yeah, dug, that's water, yeah. That's the HaAri zal's mikveh. Well, he didn't see the corpse, so he had to he had to assume that since the ground got softer, the corpse came up and moved. Right, right, yeah, yeah. No, but it felt it, apparently he felt that it's soft.
讗诪专 讛讛讜讗 住讘讗, so there was this old man there, he was actually part of the Beit Din that Rashbi made to 驻住拽谉 that this is 讟讛讜专, and he said, \"讟讬讛专 讘谉 讬讜讞讗讬 讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转!\" That 讘谉 讬讜讞讗讬 is 诪讟讛专 讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转, he criticized him. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so he said to him, \"讗诇诪诇讗 诇讗 讛讬讬转 注诪谞讜, had you not been with us when we dealt with this, 讜讗驻讬诇讜 讛讬讬转 注诪谞讜 讜诇讗 谞诪谞讬转 注诪谞讜, and even if you would be with us and you wouldn't have voted, you wouldn't be part of us to come to a conclusion that it's 讟讛讜专, 讬驻讛 讗转讛 讗讜诪专. I can understand you come in to say, 'I disagree, I think you couldn't do it.' 注讻砖讬讜 砖讛讬讬转 注诪谞讜, but now that you were with us, 讜谞诪谞讬转 注诪谞讜, you were there in the Beit Din and you counted with us...\" Yeah. \"...so why did you do it? 讗诇讗 诪讗讬, what's going to happen here? You really voted with us and said it's 讟讛讜专 because you felt 讬爪讗转 讬讚讬 讞讜讘转, you wanted to be 讬讜爪讗 for, you know, political, you wanted to be politically correct, but really you didn't mean it. 讬讗诪专讜, people are going to say, 讝讜谞讜转 诪驻专讻住讜转 讝讜 讗转 讝讜, 转诇诪讬讚讬 讞讻诪讬诐 诇讗 讻诇 砖讻谉? You know the pshat here? The 讝讜谞讜转 诪驻专讻住讜转, what a pshat! The 讝讜谞讜转 hate each other, because each one, you know, this is a 讻诇 讗讜诪谉 砖讜谞讗 讘谞讬 讗讜诪谞讜转讜, every thing every person that does hates the one who does the same thing. Nevertheless, they help each other put on makeup and this kedei to show that that they're helping, but really they don't mean it. So the same thing they're going to say here also: really when you voted with us and you 驻住拽谞'讚 that it's good, it's not because you really meant it. You're saying now it's no good, you wanted it because you wanted to be 讬讜爪讗. 讬讛讘 讘讬讛 注讬谞讬讛, 讜谞讞 谞驻砖讬讛.\" That's what people are going to say. 讬讗诪专讜, you're making people say. 讝讜谞讜转 do it, and look, 转诇诪讬讚讬 讞讻诪讬诐 do it even better. So 讬讛讘 讘讬讛 注讬谞讬讛, so Rashbi looked at him, 讜谞讞 谞驻砖讬讛, and he died. Is this the same one who spoke previously? Yeah. He was he told who? No, no, no, no. Yeah, this yeah, 讛讛讜讗 住讘讗, no, it's the same one. One, right? Who who died? The old man? The old man. I don't think it's the same one, but it doesn't say, unless mefarshim says it, it doesn't say. I don't know if the mefarshim So what what was he supposed to gain by by saying that he was...? He criticized him. He said you're wrong. Even though in the beginning he gave him an idea? Yeah.
What was he going to gain, from who? I mean what how was he going to gain standing? status? Trying to act like he was smart? His rav, I guess so. Cool. Wait, so who said that? He said he compared it to 讝谞讜转, right? No, R'' Shimon ben Yochai compared it to 讝谞讜转. R'' Shimon ben Yochai compared it to 讝谞讜转. Yeah. In the end, you see that, look, people were saying that just like 讝讜谞讜转 do this, we're also doing it, and really, you don't mean that. So, they're little like if you're having another conversation like theirs, do they start talking about ex- like 讝谞讜转 and stuff like that? Like in that era? And I'm wondering, like it's interesting. Why they use this this 诇砖讜谉? No, like why they're talking about that trade? Why didn't they say like a jewelry business or something? Because I guess there's no 诪驻专讻住讜转. In a jewelry business, one doesn't help the other. In this case, they're together, one helped the other. In a jewelry business, they glue each one separate. This is a case where they help each other. It's the only case. Besides that, to give a good example people should understand. As they say, Alter Moshe, Alter Moshe he was 讗 讙专讜讬住注专 讞住讬讚, and he was went to the Lubavitcher Rebbe he was he was his mashpia. 讗讝 Alter Moshe, when he farbrenged, he used to say such nivul peh, he used to speak terrible nivul peh to the he used to say, \"You're a this, you're a that, ah?\" Itski, Itski was his name, right? Alter Moshe he was called right along. Itski. Right, Itski. So, someone once asked him, gerade when he was not shikor, Itski, when when he was not shikor, he was very eidel. Didn't I heard my father told me once that he was there, and he went sitting with this in the living room or something with a friend, and his little girl was walking around and he heard him say to the guy, \"讗讛, 讬注谞注专 讗讬讝 讗 砖讜讜讗谞抓.\" So, his little girl took, \"讟讗讟注, 讚讜 驻讗专讘专注谞讙住讟?\" But anyway, so they once asked him, \"Why do you speak such 砖驻专讗讱?\" \"What should I tell you? The nefesh habahamis doesn't understand anything else. The nefesh habahamis
only understands when you the 讛讬讙注 砖驻专讗讱, this is it.\" Anyway, so this guy died. 谞驻拽 诇砖讜拽讗... It's an insult to everybody who's listening. Okay. 谞驻拽 诇砖讜拽讗, so he went Rabbi' Shimon ben Yochai went out on the street, 讞讝讬讬讛 诇讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 讙专讬诐. He met Yehuda ben Gerim. This Yehuda ben Gerim that he was the cause! 讗诪专, \"注讚讬讬谉 讬砖 诇讝讛 讘注讜诇诐?\" This guy's still alive? 谞转谉 讘讜 注讬谞讬讜, he looked at him and 谞注砖讛 讙诇 砖诇 注爪诪讜转, he made him into a pile of bones. Yehuda ben Gerim was what, a 转谞讗? No. Who's that guy? He's not called 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛, Yehuda. At least that story ends on the the right way. That that would always end on the right way. The bad guy got his... 注专 讗讬讝 讙注讜讜注谉, 注专 讗讬讝 讙注讜讜注谉 讗 讙诇讙讜诇 驻讜谉 诪砖讛 专讘讬谞讜. Huh? He was a 讙诇讙讜诇 of Moshe? Moshe Rabbeinu... Moshe Rabbeinu said, \"I don't, I didn't know that my face is shining.\" Rabbi' Shimon ben Yochai said, \"讜讗谞讗 讬讚注谞讗 讚讗驻讬 谞讛讬专讬谉, I know of my, on my own face.\" Yeah? Why it has such a warm spot for him. You have a, yeah? Yeah. Go bring that Zohar. The whole, the whole...