Can a Kohen Marry the Daughter of a Non-Jewish Father?
Can a Kohen Marry the Daughter of a Non-Jewish Father?
Part of Halacha, Hashkafa and Parenting · 24:41
A halachic debate on a Kohen's marriage eligibility when the mother converted, civil versus halachic marriage status, and the story of Rabbi Korff's intervention in an engagement.
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Strauss, in Yerushalayim, ah? Not Chabad. All right, but Well, I asked him. So, he called me You know that Freiger, this one of these she'elot, the shluchin, with these guys getting married, you know, they all these this type of she'elot. A kohen Yeah, you know what I'm saying? The biggest posek in the world. So, I said, I'm happy that I was able to, you know, because it's an achrayut to pasken this she'elot, you know. Wants a kohen to marry a woman who is not allowed to marry. That that type of thing? Yeah, that's that type of she'elah. So, I said I told him the sevarot I have, but I'm not taking upon achrayut. Isn't it clear? Well, this father No, no, it's not a case where it's clear. You know what the she'elah is? You know, to make it short, a kohen is not allowed to marry a gerushah, obviously, not allowed to marry a giyoret, as a convert. What about a girl, a woman who is her no, no, her father her father is a goy? Her mother's Jewish, and father is a goy. So, she's Jewish. Aval mid'rabbanan, she's not allowed to marry a kohen. Why? Because the rabbanan made a gezeirah, because it's similar to a giyoret. So she's not allowed to marry. The din is that How's that? Yeah, even though, because the father is a goy, so mimela it has to do It has a connection, similar to giyoret. But the mother is Mother's Jewish, so she's a Jew. So, that But lefo'al What if he didn't know who the father was? The father? That makes it an even worse she'elah. Jewish. That's a worse she'elah. Cuz the father cuz the father maybe is a Yid a mamzer and it's, or a Yid who knows what, this could be Doesn't the goy make the the the Jewish woman into a zonah? The mother is a zonah, but not the daughter. Isn't the child like a mamzer? No. So, what happened? ืขืื ืืขืืืดื ืืื ืขื ืืช ืืฉืจืื, ืืืื ืืฉืจ. But, so there's so the the child is kasher. But a kohen, mid'rabbanan is asur. One second. Bedi'eved, bedi'eved it's mutar. It says, ืื ื ืืกืช, ืื ืชืฆื. Now, these are people, that couple, this American she'elot, that they're they're they're living they're married already civil marriage already years. And this kohen married to this lady, her father's a goy. They're married. But they're not really married, because they're married only civilly. That's not real marriage. Now
they're becoming If they're married, kivyachol, they're not really married. Now they're becoming more frum, they're becoming closer, so they want to have ืืืคื ืืงืืืืฉืื, they want to get married ืขื ืคื ืืืื, because they're living ืืืืกืืจ. Now, are they allowed to marry her? Now lichora, they're not allowed to. So, my lichora, so what do you even talk about? If you don't allow him to do it, he's going to go to Reform, cuz he cuz he wants to get married Jewish. The point is, and also my my sevara then was that we have a klal that sometimes we consider a she'at hadechak like a bediavad. It's a she'at hadechak. So, I said, my sevara is, it's possible that because otherwise they're going to live with ืืืืกืืจ, that's a bigger she'at hadechak. So mimela, a she'at hadechak could be like a bediavad. So, they're allowed to. So, the she'elah is, are they allowed to or not? So, I said, I have this sevara, but I I wouldn't pasken this. I said The fact that they live together doesn't help you? No. Why? Isn't ืืืื considered marriage? A Jewish man marries a Jewish woman No, no. has ืืืื with a Jewish woman, it's not marriage? Not marriage. In other words, in a case like this, would she need a get? Let's say she wants to marry somebody else. So, so be'emet, be'emet, lechatchila we look for a get, there's no question about it. But if you can't get a get, so then so then in this case, ื ืืฉืืืื ืืืจืืืื, it's called, is is I mentioned it the other day, we were talking about civil marriage, a big machloket. The acharonim, the
last ones, machloket between Rav Moshe and Rav Henkin. Rav Moshe was mekel and Rav Henkin was very much machmir. He said that this is called an ืืฉืช ืืืฉ and you're not allowed to. The Rogatchover is machmir, but ืืคืืขื, Rav Moshe was very was mekel. So, but she'at hadechak, if you can't get a get, this if they're married already, so we consider it that they're not married if they married civil. So, here the civil be'emet you consider not married, so it should be not married, it's not considered really married. So, the she'elah is now it's not bediavad, it's lechatchila, but can it be considered ืืืืขืื? Anyways, I said, I don't know, so I didn't So, when he told me who he is, I said, let's discuss the she'eilah. So, he said, I'll ask his father. So, today he called me, he said he asked his father, and his father said said, you know what, the sevara is a good sevara that it's like a ืืืืขืื, so therefore, what you should do is, he said, don't pas'ken anything. Don't help them get don't like tell them that they're allowed to get married. They're getting married, so don't say anything, because So, I said, what about doing ืงืืืืฉืื? You're helping. He said, no, they're they're getting married. They want you to say the berachot, say the berachot, but you can't come and say you're allowed to get married. Yeah. That's how he pas'kand. Just a fresh pesak from this morning. In that context, like when you come you come to them to say it's allowed, you come and do the thing? No, a shaliach called me that he has they asked him to make ืงืืืืฉืื, he asked him the she'eilah. How is it ืืืืขืื then? Ah? Then it's not really ืืืืขืื. Well, later it will become ืืืืขืื. After he does it, it's ืืืืขืื. You're not you're not ืืกืืืข, though? Yeah, that's that's to say, yeah, exactly. But my she'eilah is, being with her ืงืืืืฉืื is not called ืืกืืืข? That's what I sure is. So, I asked him. So, he said, no. He said you can do that ืงืืืืฉืื as long In other words, he's getting married anyway. Don't tell him to get married. He's getting married, he wants you to make the berachah. So, make the berachah. It's not so pashut. Why, after all? Because this guy, the shaliach who spoke to me, told the guy a few times already that it's not pashut, it's a big she'eilah, I don't know if I can do it. So what's he going to do now? How's he going to be shtil? He says dos heyst shtil, how's he going to be quiet? He found out the pesak, gotta answer him something. Well, I told him, tell him, tell him that it's a big problem, and I can't help you to do it. If you do it, oh, I'll be there. Oh, say it that way. Say it that way, tell him I can't help you, that's it. But he is helping. Huh? Saying the berachah. Okay, but I'm just telling you what he pesak'd. What's the alternative? Yeah, the alternative is everybody, yeah, the alternative is either they're going to go Reform, or they're going to stay the way they are. Another thing, they're getting close to Yiddishkeit. If you do this, they'll definitely get ื ืชืงืจื. If you don't do it, and you push them away ืืืืขืื, once they're married, it's good ืงืืืืฉืื, everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, ืืืืขืื there's no question. Remember the case here? I'll tell you the name, you probably I won't say a name now, but there's a guy who became a chatan and kohen, he came to Miami, he's a chatan to somebody in California. Fine, no problem. Came here, he went in, he spoke to, actually, he spoke to Rabbi Korff telling him mazal tov and this. He
started asking him about the family, who is it, so he started telling him the truth. The girl, he's a very fine girl and this and this, and her father is a goy, but she's Jewish. This was about four weeks before the chunah. So Rabbi Korff knocked, you know, things He's a kohen! A kohen! So Rabbi Korff says to him, how can you marry her? Why not? She's Jewish. Yeah, but you're talking about a kohen, ืืืชืืืื, not allowed. You got to break up the shiduch. He broke up the shiduch. He married somebody else, he broke up the shiduch. Had he not told him, had he not told Rabbi Korff, the dude got in the port, vach later they would it would marry, then it would be, then it would be b'diavad. Yeah, b'diavad, it would be b'diavad, yeah, that it would be ืืฉื\"ื, ืื ืชืฆื. That's a bachur here? Yeah, a bachur in yeshivah, he was in yeshivah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and later he learned in ืืฉืืื ืืืชืืืื. He learned in ืืฉืืื ืืืชืืืื later, this he left and then he came back later and You remember the maaseh? It's okay. Had he not said anything to him I didn't know I didn't know that it was the Rema. Uh-huh. I didn't know that. But he didn't, okay, he meant, you know, to motivate him. Okay, lomir gein vayter. ื'ืืืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ืื Gemara, ืืื ืืืืืงืช'ื between Rav and Shmuel. So we're holding here, after we finished the ืืืืืงืช here Oh, no, we finished that already, yeah. We're holding here on this side, sorry. Yeah, we're holding here, after more of the, well, everything. So we
learn here that Rabbi Yochanan said, 18 months I was by Rabbi Oshaya Beribi, and the first thing I only learned one thing. Now it's another thing he said: ืืืืจ ืจืื ืืืื ื, ืืฉืืืื ื ืืืืื ืชืืจื ืืฆื ืจืื ืืืฉืขืื ืืจืื, when I learned Torah by ืจืื ืืืฉืขืื, ืืืื ื ืืืฉืืื ื' ื' ืืืื, four of us sat in one ืืื. They were so crowded, and they were pushing so much to hear the words of ืชืืจื from the ืจืื, that they managed to be four people in one ืืื. An ืืื is is 18 inches. Yeah. Wait, the first thing when you see this, you think of 770. ืืืจ ืจืื, ืจืื said: ืืฉืืืืชื ืืืื ืชืืจื ืืฆื ืจืื ืืืขืืจ ืื ืฉืืืข, when I learned ืชืืจื ืืฆื ืื ืฉืืืข, ืืืื ื ืืืฉืืื ื' ื' ืืืื, six people in one ืืื. Hakofos. Like hakofos, yeah. Like this is farbrenging, this is hakofos. That's a squeeze. That was a squeeze, it was a brachah, everyone keep everybody. They roomed there, they were sitting. Huh? They were sitting. That's a nes. Takeh that's a nes. I don't know if they were sitting, it says they were sitting. Huh? I don't know what that was. Yeah. ืืืืจ ืจืื ืืืื ื, and ืจืื ืืืื ื said: ืจืื ืืืฉืขืื ืืจืื ืืืืจื ืืจืื ืืืืจ ืืืืจื. ืจืื ืืืฉืขืื ืืืฉืืื, huh? Didn't say ืืืฉืืื? Said ืืืฉืืื. ืืฉืืืื ื ืืืืื ืชืืจื, when we learned Torah, it didn't say ืืืฉืืื. ืืืื ื ืืืฉืืื, oh, wait, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even realize. Yeah, ืืืฉืืื, yeah, yeah, you're right. That's a nes. Sitting four that's not possible, right? Bigashmiyus, yeah. But like in the ืืืช ืืืงืืฉ, ืขืืืืื ืฆืคืืคืื ืืืฉืชืืืื ืจืืืืื. They stood Standing is easy, yeah. Standing is easy, yeah, yeah. So
Rabbi Yochanan said, ืจืื ืืืฉืขืื ืืจืื ืืืืจื, in his generation, was like Rabbi Meir in his generation. ืื ืจืื ืืืืจ ืืืืจื, just like Rabbi Meir in his generation, ืื ืขืืื ืืืืจืื ืขื ืกืืฃ ืืขืชื, his chaverim did not reach the depth of his seichel. We learned that earlier takeh in the thing 16 here, 98, that they said that everyone knew that ืืื ืืืืจื ืืจืื ืืืืจ, in the generation of Rabbi Meir, no one like him. ืืืื ืื ื ืงืืข ืืืื ืืืืชื, but why didn't they pasken like him? Because they couldn't, he was so deep. And they couldn't get to to understand it, so they can't pasken like that. So the same thing, ืืฃ ืจืื ืืืฉืขืื, ืื ืขืืื ืืืืจืื ืขื ืกืืฃ ืืขืชื. Rabbi Oshaya also his chaverim did not go on ืกืืฃ ืืขืชื. ืืืืจ Rabbi Yochanan, and Rabbi Yochanan said: ืืื ืฉื ืจืืฉืื ืื ืืคืชืื ืฉื ืืืื. He said like this, wants to say the difference between the ืจืืฉืื ืื and ืืืจืื ืื, in the Gemara's time. The heart of the ืจืืฉืื ืื was like the opening, that's how wide it was, like the opening of the ืืืื. In the Beit HaMikdash you had the ืืืื. The ืืืื, the width of the opening was very big. Then you had the ืืืื, the door to the ืืืื, that was not as big. So the heart of the ืจืืฉืื ืื is like the opening of the ืืืื. ืฉื ืืืจืื ืื ืืคืชืื ืฉื ืืืื, and there it's already less. The later generations is like the opening of the ืืืื. ืืื ื, and what are we? ืืืื ื ืงื ืืื ืกืืงืืช, it's like the
hole of a needle. When you use a needle to sew, how big is that hole? Compare that hole to the opening of the I think the opening of the ืืืื was twenty ืืื wide. Twenty ืืื wide, and here you have a it's not even a half an ืืื. That the Gemara says, Rabbi Yochanan. When? How much after saying ืื ื? Who's ืื ื? Rabbi Yochanan is saying this. Rabbi Yochanan said, in his time, ืจืืฉืื ืื, and we'll see who they are, they're ืืืจืื ืื and us. And he already, Rabbi Yochanan, Rabbi Yochanan lived right in the beginning of the Gemara, he was the beginning of the ืืืืจืืื. ืืื ืจืืฉืื ืื? Who are the ืจืืฉืื ืื? Rabbi Akiva. Who are the ืืืจืื ืื? Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua. Yeah, and ืื ื is Rabbi Yochanan says. ืืืื ืืืืจื, some say, ืจืืฉืื ืื is Rabbi Elazar ben Shamua, and ืืืจืื ืื is Rabbi Oshaya Beribi. And ืื ื, ืืืื ื ืงื ืืื ืกืืงืืช, we're like the the hole of a needle that's when the you sew. ืืืจ ืืืื, Abaye said, and what's us? Abaye was many generations after Rabbi Yochanan. ืืื ื, ืื ืกืืืชื ืืืืื ืืืืื. What's ืกืืืชื ืืืืื ืืืืืื? That's like when you stick in a nail into the wall. When you have a small, you know, crack and you stick it in, so it's a How much It's The hole there is so small, you're just when you push it in, you're squeezing it more. That's how much. We ืงืืื ืงืืื ืงืขื ืืขื ืกืงืจืขืืฉื ืขืคืขืก ืขืคืขืก ืืื ืงืืค, like a little, little nail in the wall, nothing. ืืืจ Rava, so Rava said, ืืื ื, we, ืืืฆืืข ืืงืืจื ืืกืืจื. ืืืื ืืกืืจื is like when you put your finger to wax. When you put a hard wax, put your finger, nothing, you can't, you can't stick your finger in, it's hard. So all it does, it touches, that's all. In ืกืืจื we ืงืืื ืงืืื touch the idea, so little. ืืืจ ืจื ืืฉื, Rav Ashi said, ืืื ื, and we, ืืืฆืืข ืืืืจื ืืฉืืื. We are like you stick your hand into a, a finger into a hole ืืืื forgetting. In other words, our whole, our head is so open to forgetting that we forget everything. What were they learning that was so difficult for these other The same Gemara, they're learning the whole thing that we're learning. The second and third generation was tougher, couldn't get Well, the ืคืงืืืช, the the way they understood, their heart, the ืจืืฉืื ืื, the ืชื ืืื, the ืืืืจืืื. And he says in the, in Maseches Shabbos there's something similar, that ืืืจ ืจื ืืืจื ืืืจ ืจืื ืืจ ืืืืื ื, ืื ืจืืฉืื ืื ืืื ื ืืืืืื, if the ืจืืฉืื ืื, if we look if the ืจืืฉืื ืื are ืืืืืื, ืื ื ืืื ื ืืื, then we, compared to them, are like people compared to ืืืืืื. ืืื ืจืืฉืื ืื ืืื ื ืื ืฉืื, if the first, early generations are people, ืื ื ืืืืืจืื. We're like donkeys. ืืื ืืืืืจื ืฉื ืจืื ืื ืื ื ืื ืืืกื ืืฉื ืจืื ืคื ืืก ืื ืืืืจ, like a ืฉืืจ ืืืืจืื, not like these two special donkeys that they wouldn't eat ืืื from Rabbi Pinchas ben Yair and wouldn't eat ืื ืืื. We are regular donkeys. Now, there is a taytsh, a taytsh like this, a dafl taytsh is here. Till now we said ืคืฉืื ืคืฉื, if we, they are ืืืืืื, we're people, it's different. ืื ืจืืฉืื ืื ืืืืืืื, if we look at them like they're ืืืืืื, I said it last time, then we are people, then we're normal. If we look at them as people, ืื ื ืืืืืจืื, we're donkeys. In other words, we have to look at the ืจืืฉืื ืื and then we have to look at them that they're not people, they're ืืืืืื, which is similar to what the Mezritcher Maggid said about the Baal Shem Tov. It's a famous story, I'm not going to go into the whole story, that's when he went to the to the Baal Shem Tov, who sends him to go to the Baal Shem Tov? Baal Shem Tov came to the Pnei Yehoshua and Anyway, the bottom line I have to go, the Pnei Yehoshua was the one that told the Maggid he thinks he should go because the Maggid had a problem with his feet. He used to go every year to Carlsbad for for baths. Finally, through the Baal Shem Anyway, he told him, 'I think you should go, the Baal Shem Tov will cure you.' So he said, 'How could I go to the Baal Shem Tov? I have ืชืดืง kashyot on the Baal Shem Tov, 500 kashyot, ืชืดืง kashyot on the Baal Shem Tov I have. How could I go to him?' But afterwards, finally he convinced he went. When he went, the Baal Shem Tov said, 'I want you to go one more time to Carlsbad.' Because whenever he used to go to Carlsbad, he used to pass by the city Frankfurt, the city of the Pnei Yehoshua, and he used to sit and talk with him to see what Baal Shem Tov told him. Baal Shem Tov told the Maggid now, after he became already his chasid, 'Now I want you to go again to...' Anyway, he passed by the Pnei Yehoshua already, and this time he was the top, top talmid of the Baal Shem Tov. So he says to him, he started telling him about the Baal Shem Tov, so he says, 'What happened to your 500 kashiyot?' So he said to him like this, 'A person that if he wouldn't tell me that he's a human being, I wouldn't believe it. I would think he's pashut a malach. The only reason I know he's a human being is because he told me. On a person like that you can't have kashiyot.' The kashiyot, the 500 kashiyot. But the lashon he used was, if he wouldn't tell me that he is a ืืืื ืืฉื, that's the lashon he used, if he wouldn't tell me that he's a ืืืื ืืฉื, I would think he's not a ืืืื ืืฉื, not a real ืืืื ืืฉื. He's pashut from from from malachim is he. ืืื ืืขื ืืฉ ืงืขื ืืขื ื ืืฉื ืคืจืขืื ืงืืื ืงืฉืืืช. ืืืื ืื ืืืจื ืืืืืืขืจ, ืืืจ ืจื ืืืืื ืืืจ ืจื, this is in the name of ืจื, ืื ื ืืืืื, the people from the area of Yehuda, you have Yehuda and Galil, people from ืืืืื ืฉืืืงืคืืื ืืืืฉื ื, they were careful with their language, they spoke fine language, they didn't speak like foul language, things like that, ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืจืชื ืืืื, so the Torah stayed by them. ืืื ื ืืืื ืืื ืืืงืคืื ืืืืฉื ื, the people in Galil were not makpid on their language, ืื ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืจืชื ืืืื, so the Torah was not nitkayem by them. So the Gemara asks: ืืืืื ืืืงืคืืื ืชืืื ืืืืชื? Remembering the Torah has to do how language you speak? What does it got to do? The peshat is different. ืื ื ืืืืื ืืืืืงื ืืืฉื ื, they were very careful, they were medayek in the words that they heard. When they heard like a halachah or something they were ืืืืืง, ืืืชื ืืื ืกืืื ื, and mimela when they had exact words, they were able to make themselves simanim of how to remember. So when you have simanim, it makes you remember, ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืจืชื ืืืื, then they kept the Torah. ืื ื ืืืื ืืื ืืืืงื ืืืฉื ื, they were not medayek, and how the Gemara will say later, they their ืืืชืื ืืืืืืจ was not clear. People from Galil didn't have a, what's a ืืืชืื ืืืืืืจ? How do you say it? Clear express clear pronunciation. And also they they didn't say things clear, ืืื ืืชื ืืื ืกืืื ื, since they're not clear they can't make ืกืืื ืื, ืื ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืืืื ืืืื, the Torah was not by them. ืืืืขืืช ืืืื, a different pshat: ืื ื ืืืืื ืืืจื ืืื ืจืื. ืื ื ืืืืื learned from one Rabbi. So you heard exactly what he told you and you learned this halacha and you remember the words fine, therefore ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืจืชื ืืืื, you remember the halacha exactly as it's told. ืื ื ืืืื ืืื ืืืจื ืืื ืจืื, they didn't learn from one Rabbi, they would hear the same halacha from different Rabbis. And what if you hear different Rabbi, each one said it in a different language, so it confuses you, so ืื ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืจืชื ืืืื. Why why did they go? Yeah, went to different yeshivot. They stayed in one yeshiva, yeah. Not, but each one had his own Rabbi. ืจืืื ื ืืืจ, ืจืืื ื said like this, it's probably different halachot. To learn the same halacha from two is is a problem. Ravina says, ืื ื ืืืืื ืืืื ืืกืืชื, people from Yehuda that revealed it, that means they taught others learning, ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืืืื ืืืื, it kept with them. ืื ื ืืืื ืืื ืืื ืืกืืชื, that they didn't teach others, ืื ื ืชืงืืืื ืชืืืืื ืืืื, didn't stay. Because if you teach others, this is not even a ruchniyusdike zach, it's ืงืืื ืื ืืฉืืืืช. When you explain to somebody, it makes it much clearer in your mind and you remember it. You can tell, yeah. When you hear a bochur and he says, \"I understand that you understand it, but I just I can't say it.\" You don't understand it. If you understand it, you can say it. And sometimes when you start saying you don't understand it, but as you're saying, the dibbur brings it out, by telling it over to somebody it brings it out. That's why many people when they learn, even without chavruta, the Tzemach Tzedek used to learn like that, learn and everything would daytsh to yourself. You say you talk you say it, so frekt, do iz di kashya, and then after you say the kashya, just like you
would be talking to somebody else, you daytsh, un mimela falt di kashya, vi komt di Gemara? You don't say, yeah, the Gemara says later, if you don't put it's a whole sugya here, this is the sugya here, that if you don't say, it's not going to remember. So here it's telling it, not only saying it, but telling it to somebody else, it means you have to explain it. To yourself you could just say it out, to explain it the guy should know. I used to always say this: I had a bochur in yeshiva, his father used to call me every once in a while, \"How is my son doing?\" So always told me the same thing, \"I want to ask you a favor, make sure he has a chavruta somebody that's lower than him.\" Usually people call, my my son should have a chavruta if he's a very good bachur. \"I want somebody who's less than him.\" Why? \"So he shall have to explain it, and if he explains it, then he'll understand it.\" ืืื ืืื ืืกืืชื, ืืื taught the masechta to to others. ืฉืืื ืื ืืื ืืกืืชื, ืฉืืื did not. So ืืื ืืืื ืืกืืชื, he did, ืืชืื ืืื, it says, \"ืืจืืื ืืจืืื ื ืืืฉืืื.\" That they'll see you, they'll be afraid of you, and they'll be happy, because it says, \"ืื' ืขืื ืฉืืืื ืืืืชื.\" Whatever David paskent, he always was mechaven to the halacha. And ืฉืืื ืืื ืืื ืืกืืชื, since he didn't teach, ืืชืื ืืื, it says, \"ืืืื ืืฉืจ ืืคื ื ืืจืฉืืข.\" Everything that he turned and everything do we daytsh everything in Torah, ืืจืฉืืข means was was broken up, was not right. Doesn't mean he didn't it was halacha, but he couldn't give out the halacha, it wasn't paskent like him. And the reason was because he takeh didn't teach others. But then you
might think that he did something bad, he was a bad guy, ืืืจ ืจืื ืืืื ื: ืื ืืื ืฉืืื ืื ืืงืืืฉ ืืจืื ืืื ืขื ืืืชื ืขืื? L'Shaul. How do you know Hashem forgave Shaul for that aveirah? The main aveirah he did, he killed the whole city of the kohanim, ื ืื ืขืืจ ืืืื ืื. So how do you know Hashem forgave him? Because ืฉื ืืืจ it says when when Shaul brought up Shmuel with this ืืขืืช ืืื, with this lady, this this magic, because he didn't know if he should go to war or not, so he told him that \"ืืืจ ืืชื ืืื ืื ืขืื.\" Shmuel told him, Shaul, go to war, but he told him Tomorrow you and your sons, or your son are going to be with me. What do you mean with me? ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื, you'll be in my mechitzah, you'll be in my in my Gan Eden together with me. And the next day takeh he died. So he said you'll be with me. So what do we see from here? Hashem forgave him. If Hashem wouldn't have forgiven him, he wouldn't be with ืฉืืืื, ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื. Why'd he go to war? Because he sent him to go. But the next day he died. Yeah, but that was what the Oibershter wanted. Actually, he died in suicide, whole story there. Put a sword in the ground, and The sword, yeah. But and still he went ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื. Sword in the ground and he bent into And bent on it. He asked someone to kill him, they didn't want to. How can they kill the ืืื? But he killed himself. But anyway, and he went ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื, he got to the ืืืืฆื. That's where the expression comes from. Sometimes he has these stories with great tzadikim who gave a bracha for a certain reason, ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื. Maaseh with the with the etrog, his famous etrog. Other stories that he said ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื, this is where it comes from. What what do you mean ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื? Means that yeah, he promised him that he'll be in Gan Eden with me. There's a maaseh with the Rebbe with with Dr. Ness. Dr. who?
There was a doctor in 770 called Dr. Ness. He lived in 770 from the 1940s. I even remember my time he was still there. He's just an amazing guy. He's a doctor, but a talmid chacham and used to give a ืืฃ ืืืื ืฉืืขืืจ in the shul of the shul in Crown Heights. So ืชืฉืดื, ืื of the ืคืจืืขืจืืืงืขืจ ืจืื yet, so Reb Michoel Dvorkin passed away ืขืจื ืฉืืืขืืช. Reb Michoel Dvorkin? Reb Michoel Dvorkin, yeah. Reb Michoel Dvorkin was very close to the Rebbe, before the ื ืฉืืืืช. And he passed away after ืืฆืืช ืขืจื ืฉืืืขืืช. I think Shavuos then was three days, like Thursday, Friday, ืฉืืช, or something. And after ืืฆืืช they had they wouldn't bury him then, you know, they'd have to wait even if it's not three, it's two days, I mean, but they couldn't it was hard to get a death certificate, because nobody wants to, you know, it will take time. And the Rebbe was what, worried, what should we do now? It's after ืืฆืืช and we got to If you look on his ืืฆืื next to the ืืืื, it says ื ืคืืจ ืขืจื ืขืจื ืฉืืืขืืช ืืืจ ืืฆืืช. I think it says that. So the only doctor the Rebbe could get was Dr. Ness. So he asked him to sign it. So, I can't sign it. I don't know him. I mean, he didn't know it supposed to be he died naturally, otherwise an autopsy, everything. Not a patient. So the Rebbe tried to get his in. So the Rebbe said, I promise you ืขืื ืืืืืฆืชื. Wow. He said, good. This was before the ื ืฉืืืืช yet. That's the best Oh, you can imagine! Clear confidence. You know what else the Rebbe Truth is, I don't know if the Rebbe said this to him or he asked the Rebbe, and the ืจืื ืืกืืื, whatever, it doesn't make no difference. Dr. Ness. When did he pass away? He passed away after that, probably 20 years later. I remember him, and he passed away some end of the This was ืชืฉืดื. No, you because he's probably in the ืืณ, in the end of the ืืณ he passed away. 30? Oh, that's that's that's yeah, that's that's what, not 12 years if not. Took like Dr. Ness. Remember him? Brooklyn, everything. ืืืขืจ ืืืก ืืจืขืกืืข ืืื ืืขืืืขื ืืืฆื ืืื ืืืืืขื ืขื. ืขืจ ืคืืขืื ืืขืื ืืื ืงืืืขื, ืขืจ ืืื ืืขืืืจืื ื ืืืืช. ืขืจ ืคืืขืื ืืืืืขื ืขื ืงืืืฉ. Yeah, yeah, yeah. ืขืจ ืคืืขืื ืืืฆื ืืื ืืืื ืืื ืืืื ื ืกื ืืง. Yeah? ืืขืืืขื ื ืืืงืืขืจ. ื ืืจืืืกืขืจ ืืืงืืขืจ. ืืืื ืคืืืขืจ... Yeah, yeah, yeah. ืขืจ ืืื ืืื ืืขืืืืจื, yeah. ืขืจ ืืื ืืขืืื ืืขื ืืื ืงืืืขืืืฉ. Shavuos ืืื ืืขืืืขื ืืื ืขืจืฉืืืง, ืคืจืืืืืง, ืืื ืืืง, ืืืจ ืฉืคืขื ืืขืืืขื. ื ืืืืข ืืื ืืขืืืขื Simchas Torah. ืก'ืืื ืืขืืืขื ืขืคืขืก ื ืืขืฉื ืืืจื. ื ื, ืืืืขืฆืืง ืืืจ ืืื ืืขืืืื. ืืืขืจ ืืื ืืืืืก, ืื ืขืจ ืืื ืืขืืืขื ืืืจืื. ืืืก ืืื ืืขืืืขื ืืจืื ืืขื. ืืืขืจ ืื ืื ืืขืจ ืขื ืื, I'll tell you this funny story. ืื ืื ืืขืจ ืขื ืื, ืขืื, after chatzos he told me ืื ืฆืืื ืคืจืืืื. Nobody heard of ืื ืฆืืื ืคืจืืืื? ืื ืฆืืื ืคืจืืืื, ืืขืจ ืคืืืขืจ. ืืื ืืฉืืื... ืืฉืืื... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, his brother, his brother. He was a bachur in 770. He
says he remembers that ืขืจื ืฉืืืขืืช ืชืฉืดื, ืืืื ืขืจ ืืจืืื, goes in, Reb Michoel Dvorkin, and says to him, I need a haircut. Erev Shavuos, haircut, and any bachur around I'll give a haircut. So he said, I could give you a haircut. So he said, come to my house, they had an apartment, off Kingston Parkway. So ืื ืฆืืื says he went to him, and he brought his machine, and he gave him a haircut, finished. This is Erev Shavuos, and the hair cut after, that afternoon he passed away. Yeah, machine. The day he passed away. Yeah. So he tells, afterwards he tells ืื ืฆืืื ืคืจืืืื, I have to pay you, but I have no money, he didn't have a penny, didn't have anything. So what should I pay you? You're in the dormitory in ืืฉืืื, right? The the toilets in ืืฉืืื are very disgusting. My toilet is not so bad, so I give you, let you use my toilet as payment. Nu, and he went to