We're talking about standing up before parents, כיבוד אב ואם, and also before תלמידי חכמים. So the Gemara says, בעלי אומניות אין רשאין לעמוד מפני תלמידי חכמים בשעה שעוסקין במלאכה. It says when you see a תלמיד חכם you have to stand up, but if they're in the middle of doing a job, work, you can't take away time from your work, so you shouldn't stand up, because then you're cheating your boss if you're taking up time from working. פרעגט די גמרא ולא? We're saying you shouldn't do it, והתנן, it says in a משנה, כל בעלי אומניות עומדים בפניהם. This goes talks about ביכורים. Goes the Mishnah goes into the whole אריכות how they when they brought ביכורים, how it went. So they used to from different cities gather together, people who have ביכורים, and they would travel. On the way they would pass by other cities, and the people in the other cities would join them, and they made a whole parade. By the time they got to Yerushalayim, so the lashon is as they would walk through the fields, all the workers in the areas where they walk through would stop, stand up for them, ושואלין בשלומם, would say hello to them, ואומרים להם, and they would say to them, אחינו אנשי מקום פלוני, our brothers from this and this place, בואכם לשלום. So they would give them kavod because they were doing a mitzvah. So

why shouldn't they stand up for the תלמידי חכמים? So lichora they should for the תלמידי חכמים also. אמר רבי יוחנן, the Gemara says no, מפניהם עומדים, מפני תלמידי חכמים אין עומדים. Takeh for them yes, for תלמידי חכמים not. For them because they are doing a mitzvah, בשעת they're doing a mitzvah you stand up, and for תלמידי חכמים takeh you shouldn't. אמר Rav Yosef, Rav Yosef said, בוא וראה כמה חביבה מצוה בשעתה. Look here you see how important, how beloved is if you do a mitzvah and you do it in the right way, right time. שהרי מפניהם עומדים, for these people who were coming to do a מצוה they would stand up, מפני תלמידי חכמים אין עומדים, for תלמידי חכמים not. So it shows that they're more this is like more important than תלמידי חכמים. So the Gemara says it's no ראיה, דילמא שאני התם כדי שלא תהא מכשילן לעתיד לבוא. It's not for that reason, is because we're afraid if they don't get the proper respect when they come, they'll see that they're not really appreciated, so maybe next time they won't come. It's a different reason. Not because b'etzem. B'etzem you shouldn't stand up for them either. A an אומן cannot waste time from his work to do the kavod forever. But this is the yeah to could be, the Gemara says sevara, but to make sure that they come again, so you give them kavod, that's why he said it. זאגט די גמרא ווייטער תנו רבנן, it says in a ברייתא, איזו היא קימה שיש בה

הידור? Because the pasuk says like this, מפני שיבה תקום והדרת פני זקן. So the גמרא דרש'נס תקום והדרת go together as if it would say מפני שיבה תקום והדרת. You should stand up for a שיבה, for an old man, and give him הידור, make it nice. That means it's a קימה שיש בה הידור, you should stand up in a way that's הידור. הוי אומר זה ארבע אמות. It's only ארבע אמות. If the guy is standing going across the street and you see him and you'll stand up, it won't give him any kavod, it won't give him any הידור, because no one knows why you're standing up. But if he walks by you with ארבע אמות close, then it shows. אמר אביי, Abaye said, לא אמרן, when did we say this? Only ברבו שאינו מובהק. If it's a Rebbe, but it's not his real Rebbe. אבל ברבו מובהק מלא עיניו. A רבו מובהק, it's from far when you see him with your eyes, how far you can see, you have to stand up. And אביי מכי הוה חזי ליה לאודני דחמרא דרב יוסף, אביי would see not Rav Yosef, he would see the ears of the donkey of Rav Yosef coming, דאתי, that he was coming, הוה קאים, he would stand up. אביי הוה רכיב חמרא וקמסגי אגודא דנהר סגיא. Abaye was riding a donkey and he was going on one side of the river, ויתבי משרשיא ורבנן באידך גיסא, and Reb Mesharshia and רבנן were sitting on the other side, which was far, it wasn't ארבע אמות. לא קמו מקמיה, and they didn't get up. So he assumed that they saw him, but it wasn't ארבע אמות, but they didn't stand up. אמר להו, so he said to them, ולאו רב מובהק אנא? Am I not your רב מובהק? So to me you have to stand up even if I'm further than ארבע אמות. אמרו ליה, they said, לאו אדעתין. We didn't realize pashut, we were busy, we were involved, we didn't see that you're coming, not because we didn't want to stand up. זאגט די גמרא ווייטער רבי יוחנן הוה קאים מקמי סבי דארמאי. He

would stand up even for a goy, an old person, because the Gemara said before when it says מפני שיבה תקום, שיבה means an old person, so the גמרא הוה אמינא אפילו מפני זקן אשמאי, even an אשמאי, a bad goy, old as long as he's old. And the Gemara said not, but he held that he would stand up even מפני זקן ארמאה. ארמאה means a goy. A goyisher, as long as he was old he would stand up. אמר, he said, what's the reason? כמה הרפתקי עדו עלייהו דהני. An old man has a lot of experience in life, a lot of things happened to him, he saw a lot of miracles in life, so a lot of things happened to him, so he deserves to give him some some kavod. You know. רבא מקים לא קאים. Rava would not stand up How old were these, how old were these people? The old people? Yeah, probably those days? 60 years old. Oh la la. Rava would stand up, what does it say, what does it say in Pirkei Avot? A hundred, a hundred years is 50? Is it שבעים שמונים לגבורה. ששים לשיבה, what does it say? ששים לשיבה? ששים, what does it say there? ששים זקנה, and what's לשיבה? שבעים לשיבה. That's what it says. שמונים לגבורה. שמונים לגבורה, but the שיבה where does it say שיבה, that's what I'm looking for. ששים לזקנה. A minute. Yeah, look here: חמשים לעצה, ששים לזקנה, ושבעים לשיבה. So it's שבעים לשיבה, שבעים, 70. Do you have the different girsaot in the, I think it's a difference, yeah. Cuz the one is לשיבה ולזקנה, I think it's mixed up. It's different. So he says, so Rabbi Yochanan would stand up. רבא, מקם לא קאים. Rava would not stand up, but הידור עביד להו. He would do some hidur, he would give him like, like a, yeah, an acknowledgment, make a, shake his head, stand up a little bit. אביי יהיב ידיה לסבא. Abaye when he'd see an old man walking he would give him his hand to help him walk. רבא משדר שליחא. Rava himself wouldn't do it, but he would send somebody to do it. And רב נחמן משדר גזירי. Rav Nachman, he had a lot of, like, people, servants that would serve him because he was in the family of the נשיא, of the בית דין, so he would send them. And אמר, he said: אי לאו, why not himself? Because אי לאו, אי לאו תורה, כמה נחמן בר אבא איכא בשוקא? Really I'm like everybody. Why am I special? Because I learned Torah. So I can't give up my kavod for the Torah, it's not me, it's the Torah. I should go to some a goy and give him his hand? So at least he would send a shaliach. Why is it disrespect to the Torah? Uh? Why would helping a goy is disrespecting to the Torah? For a chashuv person. Yeah, a chashuv person should go The Rebbe used to go, the Rebbe used to go Forget. Forget that. He said a story that he passed passed by once, he always passed by I think Kaila Gurary, I think it was a Kaila lives in Lake, no, Haydn and Kaila in Crown Heights. The Rebbe would go home, he, and he would stop there, the Rebbe would shake his head to the people. And then once they saw a policeman, a goy policeman, the Rebbe stopped there for a second and spoke to him. And he said a few words. Later they asked him, \"Always you just shake your head, and then you said words.\" So he

said, \"In my life I never bowed my head to a goy. I'm not going to bow my head to a goy.\" So at least to show him something, so, something. So practically it's a mitzvah to get up for an old goy? For an old, yeah, if he comes in, if it's an old person, you stand up, you get up, yeah. They say on on, which rav was it? One of the Lubavitcher rabbanim, R' Isser Krapilovitch I think, one of the rabbanim, Maharash chasidim, I mean he was a big rav. So when he, he was a rav in a big shul, he was in a city, but he had like a balebatishe shul, it wasn't like a chasidishe shtiebel. When he would get an aliyah, from he stood up front, to get an aliyah, he would always go to his aliyah with his tallit over his head. Always covered his tallit and he walked to the bimah. And he became 70, he stopped doing it. So they asked him, \"בתחילה מאי קסבר? What was this for?\" So he says the minhag in the balebatishe shul when the rav walks by, all the people who are there stand up. I couldn't take it, standing up for me, what. So I couldn't look at it, so I covered it. But when it came to 70 it says, \"שבעים לשיבה,\" and by שיבה the Torah says that by שיבה it talking about even a goy, right? So said, \"Now then I didn't care so I stopped.\" That's a chasidishe kuk. Instead of, you know, asking for kavod, cuz some people do forget. Someone told me, I was, he was by a chassunah and there was this guy that was going to get a berachah, a rav, and, a non-Lubavitcher, and no, he told him exactly how to call him up. And when they called him up, as he heard that he's being called up, he went and walked out. They asked him what happened? \"You forgot to mention I'm also a dayan.\" So I said, \"You're joking?\" \"No, he just it's there.\" Yaakov Karff told me who it was. The חתונה of his, he has a cousin you know the one that's יתום or whatever, so he came in. And since he did it ברבים I believe it's not lashon hara, cuz by him it's כבוד הרבנות. I didn't say a name anyway, I can tell you his name, Ralbag. So he said, \"I'm a דיין also and you didn't mention דיין.\" It's like the Rebbe told the story with Leizer Silver with, and Canada too you know. פשוט א געלעכטער. Leitzanim. דאס איז ווי זיי זענען. When they, ah? Mishloach Manot Mishloach Manot Oh, he has with other things he gives So they when the, when the, is that, the Rebbe told the story in the farbrengen, he didn't say his name, that once Leizer Silver was going in a car, and the guy was speeding, the driver, so a cop stopped him. So, a cop stopped him, so the driver says to the cop, \"You know who I have in the car? The chief rabbi of the United States.\" Cuz he's the head, nasi of the Agudat Harabbanim, chief rabbi of United States, and he's listening and he sticks, \"And Canada, too!\" Kavod haTorah. So, so, you get And he got a ticket? That I don't know. That's it. And Canada, too. What, Canadian Cuz cuz he that Agudat Harabbanim is called Agudat Harabbanim D'Arzot HaBrit VeKanada. Canada. So, when he talk When he the Chief Rabbi of the United States, and Canada, too! There was a used to be a name Ralbag calls himself that. Not allowed to use the name to get a benefit for himself. Huh? Not allowed to use kavod haTorah. Lo aleinu, you got a ticket. Right, it says No, it says you're not allowed to use kavod haTorah. If a person is a talmid chacham, he's not allowed to say תלמיד חכם אני כדי you should get some benefits. You're not allowed to, cuz then you're using the Torah. You're not allowed to use Torah. Yeah, but here it's to to kiddush Hashem for the for the police officer. What is it, Rav Nachman bar Abba smack? Huh? אמרי לה תורא, כמאן דרב נחמן בר When I talk about the Tannaim, the Tannaim you see asked for kavod. When when before we learned they didn't stand up for him, he said ta'anot. The Tannaim,

when they wanted kavod haTorah, they meant kavod haTorah. Right, for the Torah. It's mamash the Torah. To them, there was no They weren't a metziut for themselves. They takeh was the Torah. The best re'ayah nowadays, it's לאו דווקא כבוד התורה, because because some of these people who ask for kavod haTorah, it's only when they're insulted, but if they don't give somebody else כבוד התורה, that they don't say. But but if it's for the Torah, should be me or you, or everybody. Anybody who is a talmid chacham, I should care and I should be upset if you don't give him kavod. No, that you're not upset, if you don't give me kavod. That shows that it's a little bit mixed in a little bit of gaavah. You read in this, in the ד׳ חלפים, what Elchanan did? Elchanan Althaus? Which one? What? When his son came to, for the kiddush, to tell him to prepare something? No, this This part. The same thing happened with his brother. What happened was, there was a guy he was came to a shul, and he heard it's a big rav is giving a drasha, pilpul, a real סנאבישער רב. So, before the guy walked in, he walks around He knew the guy by He didn't say it. Oh, he grabbed He had He asked first, with the sefer. No, he asked, \"Is there a Noda BiYehuda in the shul?\" The gabbai went to look and couldn't find a Noda BiYehuda. So, okay. So, when the guy got up to speak, and he gave up the gantsa chiddush, he said, so, he screams from far, \"The Noda BiYehuda says the opposite!\" So, why Why did he ask? Because if if there would be one, the guy would say, \"Let's find the sefer.\" So, he made sure there's no Noda BiYehuda there. The guy stood there And the guy stood there, the got a גאנצע מיאוס מענטש. Good story. And this So this happened to his brother, also. Pinye Althaus, his brother was Pinye Althaus, was in Eretz Yisrael. Does it write in there? No, no, doesn't write there. Just cuz this story I I read here, but I I heard before. Pinye Althaus was once by a chassan. And the chassan got up, a real סנאבישע guy got up, with a real, you know, a real, fat gaavah. So, he set up a chiddush, you know, what do you say, a maamar, this. So, he started screaming at him, \"Ha! The Rambam says the opposite!\" Screaming at him, \"The Rambam is the opposite!\" He said, he became embarrassed, this that, by a chassan, and couldn't do anything. The next day or two, he happened to be sitting by the house of Rabbi Yaakov Landau, the rav of Bnei Brak. And while he's sitting there, he sees from far the chassan v'challah coming to the rav to visit. Oy vey! It's Oy vey! They're gonna start. It happened to be in the Rambam, yeah? Yeah. So as the chassan walks in, he walks up to him, \"I'm sorry, sorry. I looked it up. The Rambam doesn't say that. I made a mistake.\" That's a good story, too. And that's his brother. They were both Him I didn't know, but but Pinye Althaus I knew. He was, taake, a ברייטער חבר׳ה־מאן. He would could do this. I remember. Sure. He was in my house in Cleveland, too. Fully by the Crown Heights things. Oh, that's this one. And both brothers had the same tendency. The same tendency. They couldn't stand He was not as such a big like not a big maskil or or a big oved, both or not, but devoted themselves to the Rebbe 100%, and they had a chasidishe beindel in them. They had a a chasidishe thing in them. He was a single guy, and when and when and when Rabbi Chatzkel Abramsky came to Lubavitch to give a shiur, who? Rabbi Chatzkel Abramsky, he was later ראש ישיבה in in in nu, not Chevron. Chevron is Chatzkel Sarna. Slabodka, no? No, חס No, he was a big talmid chacham. He wrote a ספר Chazon Yechezkel on Tosefta, happens to be a very good sefer. He just once asked the Chazon Ish, \"How come you are known as the Chazon Ish, I'm known as Chatzkel Abramsky? How come I'm not known as the Chazon Yechezkel?\" Said, \"Dear\" Anyway, but where is it a shiur? Not in Chevron. Whatever. He was a big So, they wanted It was young. They were thinking of taking him ראש ישיבה in Lubavitch. So, גנב׳זשע די מעשה in Shach? In Shach? He is נישט געקומען צו זאגן קיין שיעור, but he came and gave a shiur. But they say, what happened was, he started his shiur, all right, maybe not the beginning, in the middle, האט זיך גענומען צום רמב״ם. מער פעלט נישט! רעדן אזוי in Lubavitch! האט מען אים געקאנט געהערט? There was one bachur that had him gefregt everything. Later I saw an article that he wrote, that Chatzkel Abramsky wrote, he was impressed. Yeah? Later he came looking who's that bachur. It was Rabbi Berel Plotkin. בריסקער רב and But at all, why did they do it? The פריערדיקער רבי was very upset that That's for who? at the bachur. Really? A guy who is a gadol in the velt that he should come and make him a bed. He was good with Lubavitch, though? Yeah, yeah, later he worked with the Frierdiker Rebbe. Frierdiker was upset. פנימיות I don't know. פנימיות because he was happy. The rest is commentary. That's That's not my commentary. I heard a commentary, it's not my own. נעמען צום רמב\"ם... שפראך... פשוט'ע שפראך. But the way, asking for kavod haTorah, that's I once heard I was there with one of the meshulachim once and somebody said something to some guy. Oh, did he get angry! He said, \"chutzpah, you speak to me like that? When I was a bochur, a kid, I used to learn with בעלי בתים, עם הארצים like you, and I used to teach.\" Very kavod haTorah is very important because it is kavod, haTorah's kavod. Okay, let's learn a little bit more, just two more minutes.

אמר רבי אבא אמר רבי ינאי. Rabbi Abba said in the name of Rabbi Yanai: אין תלמיד חכם רשאי לעמוד מפני רבו אלא שחרית וערבית. You can only stand up for your Rebbe twice a day. Must be if you're in sitting in yeshiva and your Rebbe, he walks in, he walks out, you're going to stand every time you're going to stand up? Twice a day, morning and evening. Why? כדי שלא יהא כבודו מרובה מכבוד שמים. How much kavod do you give the Eibershter? Mainly it's in the morning, Shema, or even davenen, tefillin, it's it's Shacharit and Mincha. Maariv is a reshut. So, the Eibershter you give him, you give him more kavod? That he's obligated to, but he can, but he has reshut to. Some say there's a machloket here. Some say you're not allowed to. Why? Since you're going If you do it, you're going to be giving kavod, more kavod to the Eibershter, more than the Eibershter, and you shouldn't, that's the thing. אמר רב אלעזר: כל תלמיד חכם שאין עומד מפני רבו, נקרא רשע. A talmid chacham doesn't stand up for his Rebbe is called a רשע, ואינו מאריך ימים, won't live long, ותלמודו משתכח, will forget his learning. שנאמר, it says like this, וטוב לא יהיה לרשע, good won't be to the רשע, ולא יאריך ימים כצל אשר איננו ירא מלפני אלהים, because he doesn't afraid afraid of Hashem'. Now, the word טוב goes on Torah, Rashi says, כי אין טוב אלא תורה. So, that since it Torah means What we're learning out from here, what does it mean? Because it So, when it says וטוב לא יהיה, that means he's going to lose his טוב, he's going to lose his Torah. ולא יאריך ימים, won't be יאריך ימים. And the reason is because he doesn't have יראם מלפני אלהים. What does it mean doesn't have yirah? מורא זו איני יודע מהו. What do you mean he doesn't have yirah? כשהוא אומר תקום ויראת, it says by that מפני שיבה תקום ויראת מאלקיך, הוי אומר מורא זו קימה, that's standing up. So, if a talmid chacham doesn't stand up in front of his Rebbe, will get all this Rachmana litzlan. ומסיימי בטוב. הא? It's better to be a talmid chacham and do the right thing. Yishar koach.