Sanhedrin 4
How Many Sprinklings Does a Sin-Offering Really Need?
Part of Sanhedrin: chapter 1 · 55:54
A dense sugya comparing Beis Shammai and Beis Hillel on blood-sprinkling counts, the required size of a sukkah's walls, and the four compartments of tefillin.
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Jewish Audio on chabad.org. Today's 砖讬注讜专 will be 诪住讻转 住谞讛讚专讬谉 讚祝 讚, and we start from the top of the 注诪讜讚. 讗诪专 专讘讬 讬爪讞拽 讘专 讬讜住祝, 专讘讬 讬爪讞拽 讘专 讬讜住祝 said, 讗诪专 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉, in the name of 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉, that 专讘讬 讜专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓 讜讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 讜专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 讜专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 讻讜诇讛讜 住讘讬专讗 诇讛讜 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. All these mentioned, which are 专讘讬, 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, and 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, and 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉, and 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗, they all hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, which means that we follow a word the way it's read, and not not 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, which would mean we would follow the word the way it's written, because we find sometimes words in the 转讜专讛 that are written one way, the 诪住讜专讛 was handed down from generation to generation going back to 诪砖讛 专讘讬谞讜 who heard it from 讛砖诐 that we should write the word a certain way, but nevertheless, when we read the word, we read it differently than the way it's written. And the question is, when we come to 讚专砖谉 the word, which is the main way to 讚专砖谉? Should we mainly 讚专砖谉 the word the way it is written, the 诪住讜专讛, the way the 诪住讜专讛 was handed down to write that word, or should we 讚专砖谉 the word the way it is read? Do we say 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we give more consideration to the 诪拽专讗, to the way the word is read, or do we say 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, that we give more consideration to the 诪住讜专讛, to the way it was handed down to us, the way we should write the word, that the way the word is written, that is the way to 讚专砖谉 it? And that's what 专讘讬 讬爪讞拽 讘专 讬讜住祝 in the name of 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉 said, that these 转谞讗讬诐: 专讘讬, and 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, and 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, and 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉, and 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗, they all hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we follow the 驻砖讟 the way it is read, not the way it is written. And the 讙诪专讗 is going to show where we see that all these 转谞讗讬诐 hold that opinion.
专讘讬, 讛讗 讚讗诪专谉. 专讘讬, where do we see he holds that way? This is what we had said in the previous 讙诪专讗, because in the previous 讙诪专讗 we learned that 专讘讬 holds that when it comes to 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, you must have a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 of five. And the reason, the 讙诪专讗 said, why he holds that we must have a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 of five, because we learn out from the 驻住讜拽 where it says 讗诇拽讬诐, 讗砖专 讬专砖讬注讜谉 讗诇拽讬诐. So that shows that you must have two, because 讬专砖讬注讜谉, that's written with a 讜 before the last letter, before the 谞讜谉, that is plural, 讬专砖讬注讜谉, they will be 诪专砖讬注. So there, when it says 讗砖专 讬专砖讬注讜谉 讗诇拽讬诐, automatically it shows that there is two, because it's plural, that means already two. So when it says 讬专砖讬注讜谉 讗诇拽讬诐, and 讗诇拽讬诐 means the judge, that automatically means two judges. Then there's another 驻住讜拽 that says 注讚 讛讗诇拽讬诐 讬讘讗 讚讘专 砖谞讬讛诐. So we say that we compare that 讗诇拽讬诐 to the other 讗诇拽讬诐, just like in the other 驻住讜拽 讗诇拽讬诐, since it says 讬专砖讬注讜谉, that means two, so this 驻住讜拽 where it says 讗诇拽讬诐, it also means two. So we have already four, and since we're not allowed to have an even 讘讬转 讚讬谉, we must add one more to have five. The 专讘谞谉, who argue on 专讘讬, and they say that it's enough to have three by 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, the 讙诪专讗 said, because they don't 讚专砖谉 the word 讬专砖讬注讜谉 as plural, 讜讘诪讬诇讗 it means two, because they say since the way it's written is without a 讜 towards the end of the word, it says 讬专砖讬注谉, not 讬专砖讬注讜谉, so even though we read it 讬专砖讬注讜谉, but since it's written 讬专砖讬注谉, so it is single, singular, not plural, so this 讗诇拽讬诐 means one, so automatically the other 讗诇拽讬诐 also means one, so we have two, and since we can't have an even 讘讬转 讚讬谉, so we must have three. So here we see that there's a 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 专讘讬 and the 专讘谞谉, whether we 讚专砖谉 the word the way it's written or the way it's read. The 专讘谞谉, they say that we 讚专砖谉 the way it's written, and therefore they say it means one. 专讘讬 says we 讚专砖谉 the way we read it, and since we read it 讬专砖讬注讜谉, 诇砖讜谉 专讘讬诐, plural, that's why we 讚专砖谉 it plural, and 讗诇拽讬诐 means two. So here we see that 专讘讬 is of the opinion 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we follow a word the way we read it, not the way it's written. 讜专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, where do we see that this is the opinion of 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓?
讚转谞讬讗, because we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗, 砖讗诇讜 转诇诪讬讚讬诐 讗转 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, the 转诇诪讬讚讬诐 asked 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, 讛讬拽专讗 讗谞讗 砖讘注讬诐. This is concerning the 讚讬谉 of 讟讜诪讗转 讬讜诇讚转. When a woman gives birth to a child, the 转讜专讛 says that she becomes 讟诪讗讛 for a certain amount of time, and afterwards, she is 讟讛讜专讛 also for a certain amount of time. And there is a difference between giving birth to a boy or a girl. This is in the beginning of 驻专砖转 转讝专讬注. There the 转讜专讛 says that when she gives birth to a 讝讻专, to a boy, 讜讟诪讗讛 砖讘注转 讬诪讬诐, she should be 讟诪讗讛 for seven days, 讻讬诪讬 谞讚转 讚讜转讛 转讟诪讗, as the days when she is a 谞讚讛. Then it says 讜砖诇砖讬诐 讬讜诐 讜砖诇砖转 讬诪讬诐 转砖讘 讘讚诪讬 讟讛专讛, for thirty-three days afterwards, her blood is 讟讛讜专. Then it says, 讜讗诐 谞拽讘讛 转诇讚, if she will give birth to a 谞拽讘讛, to a girl, 讜讟诪讗讛 砖讘讜注讬诐 讻谞讚转讛, she should be 讟诪讗讛 two weeks as a 谞讚讛, which means double as when she is a 谞讚讛. 讜砖砖讬诐 讬讜诐 讜砖砖转 讬诪讬诐 转砖讘 注诇 讚诪讬 讟讛专讛, and sixty-six days she should sit on her clean blood, that for sixty-six days her blood is clean. This word where we just said that she is 讟诪讗讛 砖讘讜注讬诐, two weeks, so we read the word 砖讘讜注讬诐, two weeks, but the way it's written, you could read it 砖讘注讬诐, 70. So they asked the 拽砖讬讗 to 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, let us read 砖讘注讬诐. So 讬讻讜诇, I would think, 转讛讗 讬讜诇讚转 谞拽讘讛 讟诪讗讛 砖讘注讬诐, that if a woman gives birth to a 谞拽讘讛, to a girl, she is 讟诪讗讛 for 70 days, not for two weeks, 14 days, but she is 讟诪讗讛 for 70 days. 讗诪专 诇讛诐, so he said to them, 讟讬诪讗 讜讟讬讛专 讘讝讻专 讜讟讬诪讗 讜讟讬讛专 讘谞拽讘讛. The 转讜专讛 made this woman 讟诪讗讛 and then 讟讛讜专 if she gives birth to a 讝讻专, the 转讜专讛 also made the woman 讟诪讗讛 and then 讟讛讜专 if she gives birth to a 谞拽讘讛. So 诪讛 讻砖讟讬讛专 讘讝讻专 讘谞拽讘讛 讻驻诇讬讬诐, just like we see that in the case of 讟讛专讛, those days that she is 讟讛讜专, so by a girl it is double of by a boy, by a girl we say she is 讟讛讜专 for 66 days, by a boy she is 讟讛讜专 for 33 days, so the days of 讟讛专讛 by a girl is double of the days of 讟讛专讛 of a boy, so 讗祝 讻砖讟讬诪讗 讘讝讻专 讘谞拽讘讛 讻驻诇讬讬诐. So too, when the 转讜专讛 said that she is 讟诪讗讛, so by a girl she is 讟诪讗讛 double of the 讟讜诪讗讛 by a boy. Since by a boy she is 讟诪讗讛 for seven days, so we understand that by a girl she is 讟诪讗讛 for 14 days, and therefore we don't say she is 讟诪讗讛 for 70 days, but she is 讟诪讗讛 砖讘讜注讬诐 for two weeks, for 14 days. But 讗讞专 砖讬爪讗讜, after the 转诇诪讬讚讬诐 went out, 讬爪讗 讜诪讞讝专 讗讞专讬讛诐, he went out and followed them, 讜讗诪专 诇讛诐, and he said to them, 讗讬 讗转诐 讝拽讜拽讬诐 诇讻讱, you don't need this, you don't need the explanation I just gave you to know that she is not 讟诪讗讛 for 70 days, but for 14 days, because 砖讘讜注讬诐 拽专讬谞谉, because we read it 砖讘讜注讬诐, even though it says 砖讘注讬诐, but we read it 砖讘讜注讬诐, two weeks, 讜讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, and the main way to 讚专砖谉 a 驻住讜拽 is the way we read it, and therefore she is not 讟诪讗讛 for 70 days, but for two weeks because that's the way we read the word 砖讘讜注讬诐. So here we see that 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓 also holds that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. Concerning the original 住讘专讗 that 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓 said, that we say that just like by the 讟讛专讛 it is double of the 讝讻专, so too by the 讟讜诪讗讛 it is double of the 讝讻专, so 转讜住驻讜转 says that really he could have answered them differently. The 驻住讜拽, when it says that she should be 讟诪讗讛 two weeks, the 驻住讜拽 says 讻谞讚转讛, 砖讘讜注讬诐 讻谞讚转讛, like her 谞讚讛. That means that by her, she is 讟诪讗讛 double of her 谞讚讛. A woman, her days of 谞讚讛 is seven days, so when it says here 砖讘讜注讬诐 讻谞讚转讛, automatically that also means to add seven days of a 谞讚讛. That's how we know that it doesn't mean 70 days, but an extra seven days, so he could have said from the word 讻谞讚转讛. And also, when he answered that just like by the 讟讛专讛 of a 讝讻专 the 谞拽讘讛 is double, so too by the 讟讜诪讗讛, 转讜住驻讜转 says he could have said that just like by a 讝讻专 the 讬诪讬 讟讛专讛, the days of cleanliness, is more than the days of 讟讜诪讗讛, so too by a 谞拽讘讛, the days of cleanliness should be more than the days of 讟讜诪讗讛. And the days of 讟讛专讛 by her are definitely 66 as the 转讜专讛 says. Now if we're going to say that the days of 讟讜诪讗讛 are 70, so it'll come out that the days of 讟讜诪讗讛 are more than the days of 讟讛专讛, and we know that just like by a 讝讻专 the days of 讟讛专讛 are more than the days of 讟讜诪讗讛, so too by a 谞拽讘讛 the days of 讟讛专讛 should be more than the days of 讟讜诪讗讛. So that could have been another way to answer how we know that it's not 70 days. But this is all concerning the way he said in the 讛讜讛 讗诪讬谞讗 that we have to have 诇讬诪讜讚讬诐. But the end was that we don't need any 诇讬诪讜讚讬诐, since we read the word 砖讘讜注讬诐, so we 讚专砖谉 it means two weeks, not 70, because 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗.
讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, how do we know that 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 also is of the opinion that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗? 讚转谞谉, because we learn in a 诪砖谞讛 that 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 讗讜诪专讬诐, 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 say, 讻诇 讛谞讬转谞讬谉 注诇 诪讝讘讞 讛讞讬爪讜谉 砖谞转谞谉 讘诪转谞讛 讗讞转 讻讬驻专, that all the bloods of those 拽专讘谞讜转 that you have to spray the blood on the 诪讝讘讞 讛讞讬爪讜谉, on the outside 诪讝讘讞, we know that there were two 诪讝讘讞讜转 in the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, one was called the 诪讝讘讞 讛驻谞讬诪讬, and one was called the 诪讝讘讞 讛讞讬爪讜谉. One was the inner 诪讝讘讞, and one was the outer 诪讝讘讞. The inner 诪讝讘讞 was a small 诪讝讘讞 that stood in the 讛讬讻诇, and That was only used to be 诪拽讟讬专 拽讟讜专转 on. And only specific 拽专讘谞讜转, very few, would they spray the blood of those 拽专讘谞讜转 inside the 讛讬讻诇 against the 诪讝讘讞 讛驻谞讬诪讬. Most of the 拽专讘谞讜转, the blood was sprayed on the outside of the 讛讬讻诇, in the 注讝专讛, on the corners of the 诪讝讘讞 讛讞讬爪讜谉. So 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 said that all the 拽专讘谞讜转 that their blood has to be sprayed on the 诪讝讘讞 讛讞讬爪讜谉, and the 讚讬谉 is that you have to spray 砖转讬 诪转谞讜转 砖讛谉 讗专讘注, which means two sprayings which really is four. You would go to one corner and 诪诪砖 by the corner you would spray, so automatically that spray would turn to two sides. Since it's at the corners it would turn to both sides, so that is one spray, but really is divided into two. And then you would go to the other corner against it and do the same thing, so automatically you would have another one which really is two. So it would come out that you have four 诪转谞讜转, four givings, four sprayings of the blood which really came from two. So 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 says that all these 拽专讘谞讜转 that their blood has to be sprayed on the outside 诪讝讘讞, if you only sprayed once, 讻讬驻专, you have a 讻驻专讛, the 拽专讘谉 is 讻砖专. 讜讘讞讟讗转, but by a 讞讟讗转, 砖转讬 诪转谞讜转. There you must have two 诪转谞讜转, two times spraying. If you sprayed once, even 讘讚讬注讘讚, the 拽专讘谉 is 驻住讜诇. The reason why by the other ones, those that have to be sprayed on the 诪讝讘讞 讛讞讬爪讜谉 other than a 讞讟讗转, one is enough, because the 驻住讜拽 says, "讜讚诐 讝讘讞讬讱 讬砖驻讱," that the blood of your 拽专讘谉 should be poured, should be sprayed, so since it says should be sprayed, with one spraying it's enough. But concerning a 讞讟讗转, there you must have 砖转讬 诪转谞讜转, two sprayings. That's the opinion of 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬.
讜讘讬转 讛诇诇 讗讜诪专讬诐, but 讘讬转 讛诇诇 say, 讗祝 讘讞讟讗转, 砖谞转谉 诪转谞讛 讗讞转, 讻讬驻专. Also by a 讞讟讗转, if you gave one 诪转谞讛, you sprayed once, it is a 讻驻专讛, the 拽专讘谉 is a 讻砖专 拽专讘谉. 讜讗诪专 专讘 讛讜谞讗, and 专讘 讛讜谞讗 explained, 诪讗讬 讟注诪讗 讚讘讬转 砖诪讗讬? What is the reason of 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬? Why do they hold that by a 讞讟讗转 you must have two 诪转谞讜转 at least? And he says because they learn from the 驻住讜拽, it says three times the word 拽专谞讜转: once 拽专谞讜转, another time 拽专谞讜转, and another time 拽专谞讜转. 拽专谞讜转 means corners. Now, if it says 拽专谞讜转 with a 讜, it means corners. So 诪讬注讜讟 专讘讬诐 砖谞讬诐. Whenever it says plural and it doesn't give an amount, automatically it's two. So since it says 拽专谞讜转 once that is two, another time 拽专谞讜转 is another two, and a third time 拽专谞讜转 is another two, 讛专讬 讻讗谉 砖砖. So here we have six 拽专谞讜转 the 转讜专讛 says. And all these three are concerning a 拽专讘谉 讞讟讗转: one is by the 讞讟讗转 of a 谞砖讬讗, special 讚讬谉 if a 谞砖讬讗, a 诪诇讱 does an 注讘讬专讛, he brings a 讞讟讗转, a 砖注讬专, there it says 拽专谞讜转; one is by a sheep of a regular individual who brings a 拽专讘谉 讞讟讗转; and one is by a 砖注讬专讛, if a 讬讞讬讚, an individual person brings a 砖注讬专讛 as a 讞讟讗转. In all these three places it mentions 拽专谞讜转. So 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 say, so since it says three times the word 拽专谞讜转, that means six 拽专谞讜转, so we must say the 驻砖讟, that 讗专讘注 诇诪爪讜讛 讜砖转讬诐 诇注讻讘. Since we only have to spray four times, what is the 驻砖讟 when the 转讜专讛 says six times? To teach us that there are two 讚讬谞讬诐: there's a 讚讬谉 specially concerning four, and special concerning two, together it makes up six. That four is 诇诪爪讜讛, 诇讻转讞讬诇讛, when you spray, it should be four. But then it tells us that there is another 讚讬谉 concerning two, that 讘讚讬注讘讚, if you have two, it's enough. So that's how 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 knows that 讘讚讬注讘讚 you must have at least two. 讜讘讬转 讛诇诇 讗讜诪专讬诐, but 讘讬转 讛诇诇 say, and they said that 讘讚讬注讘讚 one is enough even by a 讞讟讗转, because 拽专谞讜转, 拽专谞转, 拽专谞转, it says three times the word, but the way it's written is that once it says with a 讜, 拽专谞讜转, which is plural, and the other two times it says each time 拽专谞转 without a 讜. Concerning the 砖注讬专 of a 谞砖讬讗, there it says 拽专谞转 without a 讜. By the 讻砖讘讛 of a 讬讞讬讚 it says 拽专谞讜转 with a 讜鈥攁t least that's the way the 讙诪专讗 had the 讙讬专住讗, in our 讞讜诪砖讬诐 there it also says without a 讜, but the way the 讙诪专讗 had the 讙讬专住讗 it was with a 讜鈥攁nd concerning the 砖注讬专讛 of a 讬讞讬讚, it also says 拽专谞转 without a 讜. When it says with a 讜 it's plural, when it says without a 讜 it's singular. So since two of the times are written without a 讜, so each one he 讚专砖'谞住 as singular. So it comes out that we have 讛专讬 讻讗谉 讗专讘注, we have four: one 拽专谞讜转 with a 讜 is two, then 拽专谞转 is one, and 拽专谞转 is one, together it is four. So we say 讙' 诇诪爪讜讛 讜讗讞转 诇注讻讘, that three of the four is 诇诪爪讜讛, three of the four is only for 诇讻转讞讬诇讛, that you 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 you must have those three also, but one one is 诇注讻讘, that one if you don't have it is 诪注讻讘 and even 讘讚讬注讘讚 it would be 驻住讜诇. So here we see that 讘讬转 讛诇诇, they 讚专砖谞'讚 the 驻住讜拽 the way it's written, but 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, they 讚专砖谞'讚 the 驻住讜拽 the way it's read. And that's why they say that the 驻住讜拽 tells us six times the word 拽专谉, because we read it each time 拽专谞讜转. But then the 讙诪专讗 asks a 拽砖讬讗 on 讘讬转 讛诇诇: 讜讗讬诪讗 讻讜诇讜 诇诪爪讜讛? How do we know that one is 诇注讻讘, maybe all are 诇诪爪讜讛? Since the 转讜专讛 only has four times the word 拽专谞讜转, 拽专谉, maybe all four are only 诇诪爪讜讛, that 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 you must have all four, 讘讚讬注讘讚 even if none of them were there it is 讻砖专. How do we know that one of them is 诇注讻讘? And the 讙诪专讗 says, because 讻驻专讛 讘讻讚讬 诇讗 讗砖讻讞谉, we don't ever find a 讻驻专讛 without anything. Some kind of 讝专讬拽讛 must be there, some kind of spraying of the blood must be there. So one thing is for sure that one must be. Now since we have no 专讗讬讜转 for any more, so we say that one must be, and the other three is only 诇讻转讞讬诇讛. 讘讚讬注讘讚 if you don't have them it's also good. But in the meantime we see that 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 is also of the opinion that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. But 转讜住驻讜转 asks a 拽砖讬讗, that now that we have a 住讘专讗 that 讻驻专讛 讘讻讚讬 诇讗 讗砖讻讞谉, that we don't find a 讻驻专讛 without anything, you must have at least one, so according to that, 转讜住驻讜转 asks, according to 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬, you should have to have three 讘讚讬注讘讚 to be 诪注讻讘. Because what makes 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 say that 讘讚讬注讘讚 you must have two? Since the 转讜专讛 tells us six times 拽专谉, and two are extra because we only have four 诪转谞讜转, and two are extra, so that teaches us that there is a special 讚讬谉 concerning two, and that's why they say that that means that two are 诪注讻讘. But according to the 住讘专讗 that we say that one must be, so now when we find in the 转讜专讛, the 转讜专讛 tells us two extra, that is probably in addition to the one, since without the 转讜专讛 telling us anything, we would know that one must be there. So 诪诪讬诇讗 when the 转讜专讛 tells us two, that is in addition to the one we would know anyway, so 诇讻讗讜专讛 it's three. So 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 should have said that three are 诪注讻讘, that you must have at least three. And 转讜住驻讜转 says that we could say that 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 does not accept this 住讘专讗. This whole 住讘专讗 that 讻驻专讛 讘讻讚讬 诇讗 讗砖讻讞谉, that we don't find a 讻驻专讛 without anything, so one we know ourselves, this is a 住讘专讗 of 讘讬转 讛诇诇, but maybe 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 doesn't hold of that 住讘专讗. 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 holds that there could be a 讻驻专讛 without anything. So if not for the 驻住讜拽, we would say that none of them are 诪注讻讘. So therefore when the 转讜专讛 tells us twice the word 拽专谉 as an extra word, so we know that two are 诪注讻讘. Or 转讜住驻讜转 has another 转讬专讜抓, that maybe they hold that since you pour the rest of the blood on the 讬住讜讚 of the 诪讝讘讞, so then even if there would be no 诪转谞讜转, no special spraying at the corners, still it wouldn't be considered that there is a 讻驻专讛 without anything, because that pouring by the 讬住讜讚 is something. So therefore, if not for the extra 驻住讜拽, we would say that we don't need any 诪转谞讜转, the 砖驻讬讻讛, the pouring by the 讬住讜讚 is enough. Now when the 转讜专讛 tells us something concerning two, so we say the 转讜专讛 tells us that 讘讚讬注讘讚 you must have these two. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues,
专' 砖诪注讜谉, where do we see that 专' 砖诪注讜谉 is also of the opinion that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗? 讚转谞讬讗, because we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗, this is concerning the 诪爪讜讛 of 住讜讻讛, that how many walls must a 住讜讻讛 have in order to be a 讻砖专 住讜讻讛? So one thing we do know, that there is a 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬, that whatever it seems from the 转讜专讛 we must have, the 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 takes off one. Because we know that concerning 诪讞讬爪讜转, concerning walls, we have 讚讬谞讬诐 that 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 told us that even though we don't find it in the 转讜专讛, orally 诪砖讛 专讘讬谞讜 gave it over that he heard from 讛砖诐 that the 讚讬谉 is so and so. And one of the 讚讬谞讬诐 concerning 诪讞讬爪讜转 that we have 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 is that the last wall doesn't have to be a complete wall, but if it's a 讟驻讞 it is considered already a wall. In the 讘专讬讬转讗 that 砖转讬诐 讻讛诇讻转谉, you must have two complete walls, 讜砖诇讬砖讬转 讗驻讬诇讜 讟驻讞, the third wall could be even as narrow as one 讟驻讞, as long as it's ten 讟驻讞讬诐 high, so that has a 讚讬谉 of a wall, and then it is a 讻砖专 住讜讻讛. But 专' 砖诪注讜谉 讗讜诪专, 专' 砖诪注讜谉 says, 砖诇砖 讻讛诇讻转谉, you must have three complete walls, 讜专讘讬注讬转 讗驻讬诇讜 讟驻讞, the fourth wall could be even narrow a 讟驻讞, as long as it's ten 讟驻讞讬诐 high. So you must have really four walls, but just the fourth one doesn't have to be a complete wall. That is the opinion of 专' 砖诪注讜谉. And the 讙诪专讗 says, 诪讗讬 拽讗 诪讬驻诇讙讬? What is the reason for the 诪讞诇讜拽转? 专讘谞谉 住讘专讬, the 专讘谞谉 hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, that we 讚专砖谞'谉 the words in the 转讜专讛 the way it is written, the way it was handed down from 诪砖讛 专讘讬谞讜 to write the word. But 专' 砖诪注讜谉 住讘专, 专' 砖诪注讜谉 holds, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, the main way to 讚专砖谞'谉 the words is the way the word is read. And the 讙诪专讗 explains: 专讘谞谉 住讘专讬, the 专讘谞谉 hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, that the main way to 讚专砖谞'谉 the word is the way it is written, So therefore, in the 转讜专讛 it is written three times the word 讘住讜讻讜转, but once it's written 讘住讜讻转 without a 讜, even though we read it 讘住讜讻讜转, in 住讜讻讜转 which is plural, but it is written 讘住讜讻转 without a 讜, which is singular. Then there's another time where it says the same word, where we read 讘住讜讻讜转, but it's written 讘住讜讻转 without a 讜, which is again singular. Then there's a third time where it is written 讘住讜讻讜转 with a 讜, which is plural. 讛专讬 讻讗谉 讗专讘注, so together we have four. One 讘住讜讻转 is one, the other 讘住讜讻转 is two, and then the other 讘住讜讻讜转 is another two, together it's four. So that tells us that we have to have four walls. 讚诇 讞讚 拽专讗 诇讙讜驻讬讛, take away one 驻住讜拽 for itself. One 驻住讜拽, one of those three times it says 讘住讜讻讜转, you cannot 讚专砖'谉, because the 转讜专讛 has to write it for itself to know that we have to have a 住讜讻讛. So one of those goes off. So from the four, we're left 驻砖讜 诇讛讜 转诇转, so we're left with three. The 转讜专讛 tells us we must have three walls. 讗转讬讗 讛诇讻转讗, comes the 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬, 讙专注转讛 诇砖诇讬砖讬转, it minimizes, it makes the third one smaller, 讜讗讜拽讬诪转讛 讗讟驻讞, and it puts it on a 讟驻讞, and a 讟驻讞 is enough. The 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 says the last one could be only a 讟驻讞. So since 诇讻转讞讬诇讛 from the 转讜专讛 we only know that we have to have three, and the 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 says that the last one could be a 讟驻讞, so from here we know that you must have two 讻讛诇讻转谉, two complete walls, and one of a 讟驻讞 is enough, the third one to be a 讟驻讞. That's the opinion of the 专讘谞谉. 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 住讘专, but 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 holds that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, we said before, that 讘住讜讻讜转,
讘住讜讻讜转, 讘住讜讻讜转, since we read each word 讘住讜讻讜转, so even though it's written without a 讜, two of these 讘住讜讻讜转 are written without a 讜, but since we read it with a 讜, so we 讚专砖'谉 it that way, so we 讚专砖'谉 each one of these plural. Since it says three times, 讛专讬 讻讗谉 砖砖, so we have six. 讚诇 讞讚 拽专讗 诇讙讜驻讬讛, take off one of these three words for itself, since the 转讜专讛 has to write the word 讘住讜讻讜转 to tell us that you have to have a 住讜讻讛. So one of these three times 讘住讜讻讜转 is taken off, 驻砖讜 诇讛讜 讗专讘注, so we're left with four. Since one 讘住讜讻讜转 is off, so we're left with two 讘住讜讻讜转, each time it's plural, so we're left with four. So the 转讜专讛 is telling us you must have four walls. 讗转讬讗 讛诇讻转讗, comes the 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬, 讙专注转讛 诇专讘讬注讬转, it minimizes, makes the fourth one smaller, 讜讗讜拽诪讛 讗讟驻讞, and says a 讟驻讞 is enough. Therefore, 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 holds that you must have three complete walls and a fourth one a 讟驻讞. So here too, we see that 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗.
讜专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗, where do we see that 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗? 讚转谞讬讗, because we learned, 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 讗讜诪专, 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 says, 诪谞讬讬谉, how do we know, 诇专讘讬注讬转 讚诐 砖讬爪讗转 诪砖谞讬 诪转讬诐 砖诪讟诪讗 讘讗讛诇, that came out of two 诪转讬诐, two dead people, that it also is 诪讟诪讗 讘讗讛诇? The 讚讬谉 is that a dead body is 诪讟诪讗 讘讗讛诇. If a person stands under one roof with a dead body, then he becomes 讟诪讗. The 讚讬谉 is not only if he stands under one roof with the whole body, but even if part of the body, even if he stands under one roof with a 专讘讬注讬转 of blood that came out of a dead body. But 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 is saying, how do we know that if you have one 专讘讬注讬转, but it came from two dead people, part of this 专讘讬注讬转 came from one person and the other part came from another person, how do we know that you combine the two, and if you stand under one roof with this 专讘讬注讬转 of blood, you become 讟诪讗 讘讗讛诇? So he says, you have, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 注诇 讻诇 谞驻砖转 诪转 诇讗 讬讘讗, that you should not come on all 谞驻砖讜转, on all souls of a dead person. So here the 转讜专讛 says 谞驻砖转 诇砖讜谉 专讘讬诐, so we 讚专砖'谉 砖转讬 谞驻砖讜转 讘砖讬注讜专 讗讞讚, that even if you have two 谞驻砖讜转, it came from two people, and it has one 砖讬注讜专, still you are 讟诪讗. But the 专讘谞谉, the 专讘谞谉 say 谞驻砖转 讻转讬讘, that even though we read it 谞驻砖转 with a 讜, which is plural, but it's written without a 讜, it's written 谞驻砖转, which is singular, not plural. So therefore, the 专讘谞谉 hold that you do not become 讟诪讗 unless this 专讘讬注讬转 of blood came from one person. So here too we see that the 专讘谞谉, they 讚专砖'谉 the word the way it's written, the way the 诪住讜专转 tells us to write it, but 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗, he 讚专砖'谞住 the word the way we read it, and that's why he 讚专砖'谞住 谞驻砖转 诇砖讜谉 专讘讬诐, so we see that 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. Then the
讙诪专讗 asks a 拽砖讬讗, 诪转拽讬祝 诇讛 专讘 讗讞讗 讘专 讬注拽讘, so 专讘 讗讞讗 讘专 讬注拽讘 asks a 拽砖讬讗, 诪讬 讗讬讻讗 讚诇讬转 诇讬讛 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, is there such a thing that there should be a 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that should not hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗? And here it seems that these are the 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, but others hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. And as we 讟讗拽注 brought before, that in certain things there is a 诪讞诇讜拽转, that means that the other 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that argues holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, not 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. So 专讘 讗讞讗 讘专 讬注拽讘 asks, can there be such a thing that not everybody should accept the 诪拽专讗? 讜转谞讬讗, didn't we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗, it says 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜. Concerning the 讗讬住讜专 of 讘砖专 讘讞诇讘, that you're not allowed to cook or eat milk and meat together, it is learned out from the 驻住讜拽 where it says, 诇讗 转讘砖诇 讙讚讬 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜, you should not cook a goat in the milk of its mother. Now this word 讘讞诇讘 could be read in two ways: You could read it 讘讞诇讘, which means milk, you could read it 讘讞诇讘, which would mean fat. And this is what the 讘专讬讬转讗 says: It says in the 转讜专讛, 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜, 讬讻讜诇, I would think 讘讞诇讘, I would think that the 讗讬住讜专 of the 转讜专讛 to cook a goat is in 讘讞诇讘, the fat of its mother. 讗诪专转, so you say, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we 讚专砖谉 the way it's read. And since we read it 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜, even though the way it's written it could mean 讞诇讘, but since we read it 讘讞诇讘, in the milk, that's why we say that you're not allowed to cook meat in milk. And this is a 讚讬谉 that everyone agrees to. Everyone holds of the 讗讬住讜专 of 讘砖专 讘讞诇讘. So obviously, everyone holds that we 讚专砖谉 it the way it is read, not the way it's written. So how can we say before that not everybody holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗? 讗诇讗, therefore the 讙诪专讗 says, no, 讚讻讜诇讬 注诇诪讗 讘讗诪转 we must say everyone holds that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we 讚专砖谉 the way it's written. But if so, those places we brought before where we find a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, how will that fit? It'll come out that some hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, but now we're saying that everyone holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. So the 讙诪专讗 is going to explain that all these 诪讞诇讜拽讜转 that we brought before really is not a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 or 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, but the 诪讞诇讜拽转 is based on something else. And the 讙诪专讗 explains it: 专讘讬 讜专讘谞谉 讘讛讗 拽诪讬驻诇讙讬. 专讘讬 and the 专讘谞谉 argue in this:
One of the places, the first place that we said that there is a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转 was 专讘讬 and the 专讘谞谉. That 专讘讬 said that how do we know that the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 of 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转 must be made of five? Because it says, 讗砖专 讬专砖讬注讜谉 讗诇讛讬诐, that the 讘讬转 讚讬谉, the 讗诇讛讬诐 will be 诪专砖讬注, and 讬专砖讬注讜谉 with a 讜 is plural, that means two. And then there's another time 讗诇讛讬诐, which also means two, together it's four, and since a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 cannot be even, we must have one more, which is five. So he 讚专砖谞'讚 讬专砖讬注讜谉 with a 讜, since we read it 讬专砖讬注讜谉, so that's how he 讚专砖谞'讚. The 专讘谞谉 hold that it is enough to have three by 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, so the 讙诪专讗 said the reason was because they say we don't 讚专砖谉 讬专砖讬注讜谉, but we 讚专砖谉 讬专砖讬注谉, since it is written without a 讜, which is not plural, so that doesn't show that 讗诇讛讬诐 there means two. So it came out that the 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 专讘讬 and the 专讘谞谉 was that 专讘讬 holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, we 讚专砖谉 the word the way it's read, and the 专讘谞谉 hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, that we 讚专砖谉 the word the way it's written. But now that we said that everyone agrees 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we 讚专砖谉 the word the way it's read, so what is the 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 专讘讬 and the 专讘谞谉? So the 讙诪专讗 says they argue in something else. 专讘讬 住讘专, 专讘讬 holds 讬专砖讬注讜谉 讗诇讛讬诐 讗讞专讬谞讗. It means another one. Since before that it already said he should go to 讗诇讛讬诐, and now the 转讜专讛 says 讗砖专 讬专砖讬注讜谉 讗诇讛讬诐, it means another 讗诇讛讬诐. So that's already two. Now since this one means two, so the other one also means two. So we have four, and then we have one more because you can't have an even 讘讬转 讚讬谉. So it's not that he 讚专砖谞'住 that it's two from the word 讬专砖讬注讜谉 because it says with a 讜, that's why he 讚专砖谞'住 it, but he 讚专砖谞'住 it because since it's the second time it says 讗诇讛讬诐, so it means another 讗诇讛讬诐, that's two. 讜专讘谞谉 住讘专讬, the 专讘谞谉 hold 讬专砖讬注讜谉 诇讛讱 讚讛讗讬, that it means that the same one that's mentioned before, he should be 诪专砖讬注. So it comes out it's one. So the 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 专讘讬 and the 专讘谞谉 is not whether we follow the writing or we follow the way we read it, but the 诪讞诇讜拽转 is in something else, whether we say that 讗诇讛讬诐 here means another one after the one we mentioned before and therefore it's two, or it means the same one. 讜专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, the other one we brought who holds that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 was 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 专讜注抓, so there there is no problem because 诪住讜专转. So we must say now that the 诪讞诇讜拽转 between 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 and 讘讬转 讛诇诇 is not whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 or 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, but it is based on something else.
讚转谞讬讗, because we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗: 讜讻讬驻专 讜讻讬驻专 讜讻讬驻专, three times it says in the 转讜专讛 concerning a 讞讟讗转 the word 讜讻讬驻专. By a 砖注讬专 of a 谞砖讬讗 it says 讜讻讬驻专, By the 砖注讬专讛 of an individual who brings a 讞讟讗转 it says 讜讻讬驻专, and by the 讻讘砖讛 of an individual it also says 讜讻讬驻专. Now since it says 讜讻讬驻专 诇砖讜谉 讬讞讬讚 in singular, that means that with one thing you get a 讻驻专讛. So therefore from here we know that you get a 讻驻专讛 with one 诪转谞讛. So this is the opinion of 讘讬转 讛诇诇, not that they hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, and that's why they say it's enough to have a 讻驻专讛 through one 诪转谞讛, as we explained before, but we learn it out from this 驻住讜拽 讜讻讬驻专. Since the 转讜专讛 says 讜讻讬驻专, which is singular, so we know that even by a 讞讟讗转, one 讻驻专讛 is enough. And the 讘专讬讬转讗 explains why we have to have this 驻住讜拽: 诪驻谞讬 讛讚讬谉, because of a 诇讬诪讜讚. The reason this 驻住讜拽 has to tell us that with one is enough, because otherwise we would have had a 诇讬诪讜讚 to show that one is not enough, so the 驻住讜拽 has to tell us that one is enough. Now
what would be the 讚讬谉? 讜讛诇讗 讚讬谉 讛讜讗, there would be a 诇讬诪讜讚 to say that you would have to have more than one. Why? Because 谞讗诪专 讚诪讬诐 诇诪讟讛, it says the 讚讬谉 that you must spritz blood 诇诪讟讛, and it says 谞讗诪专 讚诪讬诐 诇诪注诇讛. And it says that you must spray blood 诇诪注诇讛. 诇诪讟讛 means under, lower, and 诇诪注诇讛 means above. Now in 专砖"讬 we have mainly two 驻讬专讜砖讬诐 what this 讙诪专讗 means. One 驻砖讟 is that 诇诪讟讛 means lower, further on in the 转讜专讛, and this is concerning 讞讟讗转 讛注讜祝, there is a 讞讟讗转 of a bird. So there the 转讜专讛 says, 讜讛讝讛 诪讚诐 讛讞讟讗转 注诇 拽讬专 讛诪讝讘讞. Then, when it says 讚诪讬诐 诇诪注诇讛, that means earlier in the 转讜专讛, higher up, it also mentions that you have to spray the blood, and that is by a 讞讟讗转 讘讛诪讛. So we 讚专砖谉 that 诪讛 讚诪讬诐 讛讗诪讜专讬诐 诇诪讟讛, just like the 讚讬谉 concerning the spraying of the blood that says lower, which is concerning the 讞讟讗转 of an 注讜祝, so there the 讚讬谉 is 砖谞转谞诐 讘诪转谞讛 讗讞转 讻讬驻专, if you gave it with one 诪转谞讛, if you sprayed once, it is good, 讗祝 讚诪讬诐 讛讗诪讜专讬诐 诇诪注诇讛, so too concerning the blood that's mentioned earlier in the 转讜专讛 concerning a 讞讟讗转 讘讛诪讛, the 讚讬谉 is also 砖谞转谞诐 讘诪转谞讛 讗讞转 讻讬驻专, if you gave one 诪转谞讛, which means you sprayed once, it is also a 讻驻专讛. How do we know that by a 讞讟讗转 讛注讜祝 it is enough? Because there the 转讜专讛 does not say 拽专谞讜转. So there we know that with one spraying it's enough. So we learn out that just like over there with one spraying it's enough, so too by a 讞讟讗转 讘讛诪讛 it's enough with one spraying. Another 驻砖讟 专砖"讬 says that when we say 诇诪讟讛 and 诇诪注诇讛 it doesn't mean lower, further in the 转讜专讛 or higher, earlier in the 转讜专讛, but it refers to two kinds of spraying of the blood. On the 诪讝讘讞, right in the middle of the 诪讝讘讞, there was a painted line which was called the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗. Now, certain 拽专讘谞讜转, like an 注讜诇讛 or a 砖诇诪讬诐 or an 讗砖诐, when you sprayed the blood, you had to do it under the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗. Now, certain 拽专讘谞讜转, like a 讞讟讗转, you would have to spray over, 诇诪注诇讛, over the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗. And this is what the 讙诪专讗 means here, that just like concerning those 拽专讘谞讜转 that you have to spray 诇诪讟讛 under the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗 it would be enough if you spray once, as we said before that there everyone agrees that one is enough, even 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 says that one is enough because the 转讜专讛 says, 讜讚诐 讝讘讞讬讱 讬砖驻讱, and that means one spray. So we learn out that just like concerning those 拽专讘谞讜转, concerning an 注讜诇讛 and a 砖诇诪讬诐 and an 讗砖诐, one is enough, so too the 拽专讘谞讜转 that have to be sprayed on top of the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗, which is the 讞讟讗转, also one is enough. Or another 驻砖讟 专砖"讬 says that we 讟讗拽注 mean over there 诇诪讟讛 concerning a 拽专讘谉 讗砖诐, but why is it called 诇诪讟讛? Not because it's under the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗, but it's called 诇诪讟讛 because it's later on in the 驻专砖讛. But 专砖"讬 says that the main 驻砖讟 is the middle 驻砖讟, that we're referring to those blood that are sprayed under the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗, and 诇诪注诇讛 means those blood that are sprayed over the 讞讜讟 讛住讬拽专讗. But whichever 驻砖讟 we're going to learn, so the 讙诪专讗 is saying here that on one hand we could learn out that one spraying is enough 讘讚讬注讘讚 because we're going to compare it to the other 拽专讘谞讜转, to an 注讜诇讛, 砖诇诪讬诐, or an 讗砖诐. 讗讜 讻诇讱 诇讚专讱 讝讜, or maybe we should go to a different direction, maybe we should learn differently, learn out from something else, and then we will say that with once it's not enough. Maybe we could compare it to something else. We could say 谞讗诪专 讚诪讬诐 讘讞讜抓, it says that you have to spray the blood concerning those 拽专讘谞讜转 that you spray the blood on the outside 诪讝讘讞, 讜谞讗诪专 讚诪讬诐 讘驻谞讬诐, but it also says in the 转讜专讛 concerning those 拽专讘谞讜转 that you have to spray the blood inside, that's concerning a 驻专 讛注诇诐 讚讘专 砖诇 爪讬讘讜专, etc. So we say 诪讛 讚诪讬诐 讛讗诪讜专讬诐 讘驻谞讬诐, just like concerning the blood that has to be sprayed inside, the 讚讬谉 is that 讞讬住专 讗讞转 讗讞转 诪谉 讛诪转谞讜转, if you missed out even one of the times that you have to spray, 诇讗 注砖讛 讜诇讗 讻诇讜诐, you didn't do anything, the 拽专讘谉 is 驻住讜诇, 讗祝 讚诪讬诐 讛讗诪讜专讬诐 讘讞讜抓, so too the 讚讬谉 should be concerning those 拽专讘谞讜转 that you have to spray the blood outside, which is a regular 讞讟讗转, the 讚讬谉 should be, 讞讬住专 讗讞转 诪谉 讛诪转谞讜转 诇讗 注砖讛 讻诇讜诐, that if you missed out one of the sprayings, you didn't do anything, the 拽专讘谉 is 驻住讜诇. So, on one hand, we could compare a 讞讟讗转 to an 讗砖诐, an 注讜诇讛, or a 砖诇诪讬诐, and say that, just like over there, one is enough, a 讞讟讗转 too. Or we could compare it to the 讞讟讗讜转 that you have to spray inside, and we would say, just like over there you must have all, so too here you must have all. Or according to the other 驻砖讟 in 专砖状讬, that we compare it to a 讞讟讗转 讛注讜祝, where one is enough, or do we compare it to those 讞讟讗讜转 that you have to spray inside and one is not enough? So, 谞讞讝讬 诇诪讬 讚诪讬讗, let's see to which one of the two is it similar. And we say like this: 讚谞讬谉 讞讜抓 诪讞讜抓. We compare, we judge a 拽专讘谉 that is sprayed on the outside from a 拽专讘谉 that is sprayed on the outside. And therefore, we would compare the 讞讟讗转, or to the 讞讟讗转 讛注讜祝, or to the 注讜诇讛, 砖诇诪讬诐, and 讗砖诐, but 讗讬谉 讚谞讬谉 讞讜抓 诪驻谞讬诐. But we will not compare, not judge, not learn out a 拽专讘谉 that is sprayed on the outside from a 拽专讘谉 that is sprayed in the inside. And therefore, there is more reason to learn out that the 讚讬谉 should be 讘讚讬注讘讚 that it's enough if you sprayed one. 讗讜 讻诇讱 诇讚专讱 讝讜, or maybe we shouldn't go that way, we should go to a different direction, and we should say like this: 讚谞讬谉 讞讟讗转 讜讗专讘注 拽专谞讜转 诪讞讟讗转 讜讗专讘注 拽专谞讜转. We should rather learn out the 讞讟讗转 from the outside from the 讞讟讗转 of the 驻谞讬诐 rather than learning out from the other things. And the reason is, because this is a 讞讟讗转 and that is a 讞讟讗转. The only thing is, this is 讞讜抓 and this is 驻谞讬诐. But since they are both 讞讟讗讜转, so it makes sense to learn out one 讞讟讗转 from the other. Plus, in both places, the 转讜专讛 says 拽专谞讜转. 讜讗诇 讬讜讻讬讞 讝讛, and we should not prove it from this, 砖讗讬谉 讞讟讗转 讜讗专讘注 拽专谞讜转. We should not compare it to an 讗砖诐 or an 注讜诇讛 or a 砖诇诪讬诐, because it's not a 讞讟讗转, and it doesn't say there 讚' 拽专谞讜转. Therefore, there is more reason to compare it to the 讞讟讗转 that you're supposed to spray the blood inside, because that is a 讞讟讗转 too, and there it says 讚' 拽专谞讜转. Also according to the other 驻砖讟 of 专砖状讬, that we don't compare it to an 注讜诇讛, 砖诇诪讬诐, or 讗砖诐, but we compare it to 讞讟讗转 讛注讜祝, still, even though they're both 讞讟讗讜转, but there it doesn't say 拽专谞讜转, and here it does say 拽专谞讜转. So, it makes more sense to compare the 讞讟讗转 of a 讘讛诪讛 to the 讞讟讗转 that is sprayed inside, because in both cases it says the 讚' 拽专谞讜转, while concerning the 讞讟讗转 讛注讜祝, it doesn't say 讚' 拽专谞讜转. So, it would come out that after this whole discussion, the better 诇讬诪讜讚 would be that the 讚讬谉 should be learned out from the 讞讟讗转 讛驻谞讬诐, and therefore, the 讚讬谉 would be that even by a regular 讞讟讗转, if you missed out one of the 诪转谞讜转, it's 驻住讜诇. That's why 转诇诪讜讚 诇讜诪专 the 转讜专讛 has to tell us, 状讜讻讬驻专状 状讜讻讬驻专状 状讜讻讬驻专状 by all three 讞讟讗讜转. It has to say 讜讻讬驻专 诇砖讜谉 讬讞讬讚 诪驻谞讬 讛讚讬谉, because of this 诇讬诪讜讚. And it has to tell us 讻讬驻专 讗祝 注诇 驻讬 砖诇讗 谞转谉 讗诇讗 砖诇砖讛. The first 讻讬驻专 tells us that you don't have to have all four. Even if you only did three was enough. Then, a second 讻讬驻专 tells us 讗祝 注诇 驻讬 砖诇讗 谞转谉 讗诇讗 砖转讬诐, even if you only did two. And the third 讻讬驻专 tells us 讗祝 注诇 驻讬 砖诇讗 谞转谉 讗诇讗 讗讞转, even if you only made one. So, from here we know that even if you gave one 诪转谞讛 by a 讞讟讗转, it is enough. So, here we see that the reason why 讘讬转 砖诪讗讬 and 讘讬转 讛诇诇 argue whether by a 讞讟讗转, one 诪转谞讛 is enough, is not based on a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 or 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, because everyone, as we're saying now, holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. The reason why 讘讬转 讛诇诇 holds that one is enough, because of this 讚专砖 from the word 讜讻讬驻专. Then, 讜专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 讜专讘谞谉 讘讛讗 驻诇讬讙讬. The other 诪讞诇讜拽转 we had before concerning whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, was between 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 and the 专讘谞谉, whether by a 住讜讻讛 you must have two walls and the third one a 讟驻讞, or three walls and the fourth one a 讟驻讞. And we said before the 诪讞诇讜拽转 was based on whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. But now we're saying 讘讛讗 驻诇讬讙讬, they're arguing in this. 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 住讘专, 专讘讬 砖诪注讜谉 holds 住讻讱 诇讗 讘注讬 拽专讗, that the 住讻讱 itself doesn't need a 驻住讜拽, 讜专讘谞谉 住讘专讬, the 专讘谞谉 hold 住讻讱 讘注讬 拽专讗, that the 住讻讱 itself also needs a 驻住讜拽. Everyone agrees 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, that we 讚专砖 the 驻住讜拽 the way it is read. And therefore, we have three times in the 转讜专讛 状讘住讜讻讜转状, 状讘住讜讻讜转状, 状讘住讜讻讜转状, and we read it plural, so the 转讜专讛 tells us six. Then, we said before, one goes off for the 驻住讜拽 itself, to tell us the 注爪诐 讚讬谉, so we're left with two, which is four. But the question is, do we also need a 诇讬诪讜讚 for the 住讻讱? Do we have to have a word 讘住讜讻讜转 to tell us that we have to have the 住讻讱? So 专讘 砖诪注讜谉 holds that for the 住讻讱 we don't need a 驻住讜拽, because since the 转讜专讛 tells us we have to have a 住讜讻讛, we use one of the three words 讘住讜讻讜转 to tell us the 注爪诐 讚讬谉 of 住讜讻讛, so that includes the 住讻讱, because otherwise it's not a 住讜讻讛. So therefore, the same one word 讘住讜讻讜转 teaches us the 住讻讱, too, the 住讜讻讛 and the 住讻讱. So then the other two words come to teach us the walls. So since each one is plural, so we're left with four walls. And 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 makes the last wall smaller, so therefore he says we have three complete walls and one wall a 讟驻讞. But the 专讘谞谉 say that the 住讻讱 also needs a 驻住讜拽, so then one of the times that we have goes off for the 住讻讱, so we're left with three. Now, the 讛诇讻讛 诇诪砖讛 诪住讬谞讬 tells us that the last one is only a 讟驻讞, that comes that the last one of the three is a 讟驻讞. Therefore they hold that you have to have two and the third one a 讟驻讞. 讜专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 讜专讘谞谉 the other 诪讞诇讜拽转, whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, was between 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 and the 专讘谞谉. But now that we say that everyone holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, what is their 诪讞诇讜拽转? 讘讛讗 驻诇讬讙讬, this is what they argue: 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 住讘专, 谞驻砖转 转专转讬 诪砖诪注. That when the 转讜专讛 says, 注诇 讻诇 谞驻砖转 诪转 诇讗 讬讘讗, so we say that the word 谞驻砖转 means two 谞驻砖讜转. Since it's plural, it's read plural, and 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, so we say it means two 谞驻砖讜转, and from here we know that even if it's one 专讘讬注讬转 讚诐 that comes from two people, it is 诪讟诪讗 讘讗讛诇. But 专讘谞谉 住讘专讬, the 专讘谞谉 hold, 谞驻砖转 讚注诇诪讗 诪砖诪注. That when we read the word 谞驻砖转 in plural, it doesn't mean plural two people, it means 谞驻砖讜转 of the world, that from all kinds of people, from any person in the world, the 谞驻砖 is 诪讟诪讗. So therefore we don't have a 专讗讬讛 that even if it's 讚诐 from two people it is 诪讟诪讗, because the 转讜专讛 is not telling us specifically concerning more than one person, the 转讜专讛 is speaking about people of the world. So 讗讬谉 讛讻讬 谞诪讬 they 讟讗拽注 讚专砖谉 the word the way it's read, and it's read 谞驻砖转, but they say it doesn't mean 谞驻砖转 in the specific case of two people, but it means 谞驻砖讜转 of all people. But still, when is it 诪讟诪讗? Only if this 专讘讬注讬转 讚诐 comes from one person. Then the 讙诪专讗 asks, 讜讻讜诇讬 注诇诪讗 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗? Are you really telling me that everyone holds that we 讚专砖谉 the word the way we read it? But we find not so. 讜讛转谞讬讗, didn't we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗, and this is concerning the 诪爪讜讛 of 转驻讬诇讬谉, that how do we know that you have to have four 讘转讬诐, four little compartments in the 转驻讬诇讬谉 砖诇 专讗砖? So the 讙诪专讗 says like this, we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗 that there are three times in the 转讜专讛 where it says 讜讛讬讜 诇讟讟驻转 讘讬谉 注讬谞讬讱 or 讘讬谉 注讬谞讬讻诐, so it says the word 讟讜讟驻转. But once it says 诇讟讟驻转 without a 讜, another time it says 诇讟讟驻转 without a 讜, and then once it says 诇讟讜讟驻转 with a 讜. So when it says 诇讟讜讟驻转 with a 讜, that's plural, that's two. When it says 诇讟讜讟驻转 without a 讜, which means 诇讟讟驻转, that's singular. So since we have once plural and twice singular, so together 讛专讬 讻讗谉 讗专讘注, so we have
four. 讚讘专讬 专讘讬 讬砖诪注讗诇, that's the opinion of 专讘讬 讬砖诪注讗诇. That's what he says, how we know that you have to have four 讘转讬诐 in your 转驻讬诇讬谉 砖诇 专讗砖. 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 讗讜诪专, 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 says, 讗讬谞讜 爪专讬讱, you don't have to come onto that. How do we know that you have to have four 讘转讬诐? Because 讟讟 讘讻住驻讬 砖转讬诐, the word 讟讟 in the language of the country 讻住驻讬 means two, 驻转 讘讗驻专讬拽讬 砖转讬诐, the word 驻转 in the language of 讗驻专讬拽讬 is also two. So since the 转讜专讛 says 讟讜讟驻转, it's made up of two words, 讟讟 驻转, that means four. So we see here that 专讘讬 讬砖诪注讗诇 does 讚专砖谉 the 驻住讜拽 the way it is written, because he 讚专砖谞'住 讟讟驻转, 讟讟驻转, 讟讜讟驻转, it's all based on the fact that it's written without a 讜. So we see that he holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, and before we said that everyone agrees 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗. 讗诇讗, so therefore the 讙诪专讗 says, 诇注讜诇诐 讘讗诪转 驻诇讬讙讬. There is a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. 讗讬讬, we said before that if there are some that hold that we do not say 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, what do they do with 讘砖专 讘讞诇讘? How do we know that the 转讜专讛 means you can't cook or eat meat in milk? Because we read the word 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜, but maybe the word means 讞诇讘, fat? And everyone agrees that there is an 讗讬住讜专 of 讘砖专 讘讞诇讘, so obviously everyone agrees that we follow the way we read it, 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜. So we said before that everyone holds 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, but now we're saying that there is a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 or 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. So he says that 讘讗诪转 there is a 诪讞诇讜拽转, but 讛谞讬 诪讬诇讬 讻讬 驻诇讬讙讬 讛讬讻讗 讚砖谞讬 拽专讗 诪诪住讜专转. When is this said, when do they argue? Only if the 转讜专讛 changes from the 诪住讜专转, that we read it different than it's written. In other words, if we would want to read it the way it's written, we wouldn't read it, we couldn't read it the way we do. 讗讘诇 讛讗讬 讞诇讘 讜讞诇讘 讚讻讬 讛讚讚讬 谞讬谞讛讜, but this difference between 讞诇讘 and 讞诇讘 are both the same. So here 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗, here we read, we follow the way it is read, because we don't say that it is written different than it's read. It could be read different, but even if we're going to read it the way we do, the 转讜专讛 would have written it the same way, because to read it 讞诇讘 or 讞诇讘, it's 讞' 诇' 讘'. The only thing is that 讞' 诇' 讘' could also be read as 讞诇讘. But in a case like that, since the way it is read is exactly the way it's written, there everyone agrees that we follow the way it's written. But in a case where the 诪住讜专转 is different than the way it's read, it's written different than the way it's read, so then there is a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪拽专讗 or 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. But then the 讙诪专讗 asks that is it not so true either, 讜讛专讬 讬专讗讛 讬专讗讛 讚讻讬 讛讚讚讬 谞讬谞讛讜, the word 讬专讗讛 or the word 讬专讗讛 is the same. 讬' 专' 讗' 讛', you could read it 讬专讗讛, he will see, or you could read it 讬专讗讛, he will be seen, and both are the same letters, 讬' 专' 讗' 讛'. And nevertheless, 讜驻诇讬讙讬, there is a 诪讞诇讜拽转. We find a 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that 讚专砖'谞住 even in a case like that the 诪住讜专转. Where is that?
讚转谞讬讗, we learned, 讬讜讞谞谉 讘谉 讚讛讘讗讬 讗讜诪专 诪砖讜诐 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 转讬诪讗, 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉 讘谉 讚讛讘讗讬 said in the name of 专讘讬 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 转讬诪讗: 讛住讜诪讗 讘讗讞转 诪注讬谞讬讜, if a person is blind in one eye, 驻讟讜专 诪谉 讛专讗讬讛, he's 驻讟讜专, he's exempt from the 诪爪讜讛 of 专讗讬讛, from the 诪爪讜讛 of going up 注诇讬讛 诇专讙诇, on 讬讜诐 讟讜讘, 驻住讞, 砖讘讜注讜转, and 住讜讻讜转, to go up to 讬专讜砖诇讬诐 to the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, to see 讛砖诐. 砖谞讗诪专, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 讬专讗讛 讬专讗讛. This is a 驻住讜拽 where it says, 砖诇砖 驻注诪讬诐 讘砖谞讛 讬专讗讛 讻诇 讝讻讜专讱 诇驻谞讬 讛讗讚讜谉 讛砖诐, that three times a year every male should be seen in front of 讛砖诐. Now this word 讬专讗讛 is written 讬' 专' 讗' 讛', and we read it 讬专讗讛, and nevertheless, he 讚专砖'谞住 it also as if it would be written 讬专讗讛. And he says that what we have to do is we have to use both expressions. We have to use the word 讬专讗讛 and 讬专讗讛, and compare the two. And he 讚专砖'谞住 as follows: 讻讚专讱 砖讘讗 诇专讗讜转 讻讱 讘讗 诇讬专讗讜转, just like he comes to see, so too he comes to be seen. And he says, 诪讛 诇专讗讜转 讘砖转讬 注讬谞讬讜, just like he sees with two eyes, 讗祝 诇讬专讗讜转 讘砖转讬 注讬谞讬讜, also to be seen with two eyes. And as 专砖''讬 explains, the 驻砖讟 is like this: he 讚专砖'谞住 both 驻住讜拽讬诐, and he says like this: 讬专讗讛 means he will see, the person will see 讛砖诐. 讬专讗讛 means that he will be seen, which means 讛砖诐 will see him. And we compare the two, and we say, just like when 讛砖诐 sees him, He sees him with both eyes, because there's a 驻住讜拽 that says, 注讬谞讬 讛砖诐 讗诇拽讬讱 讘讛 诪专讗砖讬转 讛砖谞讛 讜注讚 讗讞专讬转 砖谞讛, the eyes, plural, of 讛砖诐 are there from the beginning of the year to the end of the year, so we see that 讛砖诐 looks with both eyes, so too, when you come to see Him, you're only obligated to do it if you're able to see Him with two eyes. Therefore he holds that if you're only able to see with one eye, then you are 驻讟讜专 from 注诇讬讛 诇专讙诇. So here we see that even though the 转讜专讛 says 讬专讗讛, nevertheless, he 讚专砖'谞住 讬专讗讛 also, because the 诪住讜专转, the way it's written, could be read 讬专讗讛 even though we have to read it 讬专讗讛. And the same thing is with 讞诇讘. We said before that the reason why we say it means 讞诇讘, because in a case where the way you read it fits to the way it's written, we only 讚专砖'谉 the 诪拽专讗. But over there we see that even though we read it 讬专讗讛, and it's written 讬' 专' 讗' 讛' that fits to the word 讬专讗讛, nevertheless he 讚专砖'谞住 the 诪住讜专转 also, he 讚专砖'谞住 the word the way it could be read if not for the way we really read it. So we see that even there, there is a 住讘专讗 to say that 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. The 讙诪专讗 answers, 讗诇讗 讗诪专 专讘 讗讞讗 讘专讬讛 讚专讘 讗讬拽讗, so therefore 专讘 讗讞讗 讘专讬讛 讚专讘 讗讬拽讗 said that it's true, that even in a case like that, there could be a 诪讞诇讜拽转, and there could be a 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 to say 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转. But if so, we're back to the 拽砖讬讗, how does everyone know that you're not allowed to eat or cook 讘砖专 讘讞诇讘, meat and milk? If you hold 讬砖 讗诐 诇诪住讜专转, maybe it doesn't mean cooking meat in milk, maybe it means in fat, in 讞诇讘? So he says, because 讗诪专 拽专讗, the 驻住讜拽 says, 诇讗 转讘砖诇 讙讚讬, do not cook the goat 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜. So it 讚专讱 讘讬砖讜诇 讗住专讛 转讜专讛, the 转讜专讛 讗住专'讚 in a way of cooking. But if it would mean that you can't do it in fat, that wouldn't be cooking, but it would be roasting. And therefore we know that definitely the 转讜专讛 means that you're not allowed to cook it in milk. Concerning the 诇讬诪讜讚 that the 讙诪专讗 brought before, that we 讚专砖'谞讚 the word 讬专讗讛 and 讬专讗讛, and we say 讻讚专讱 砖讘讗 诇专讗讜转 讻讱 讘讗 诇专讗讜转, 诪讛 诇专讗讜转 讘砖转讬 注讬谞讬讜 讗祝 诇专讗讜转 讘砖转讬 注讬谞讬讜. So
转讜住驻讜转 says that if we're going to learn the way 专砖状讬 learned, it'll come out that the word 讬专讗讛 and the word 讬专讗讛 apply to two separate ones. The word 讬专讗讛 would apply to 讛砖诐, and the word 讬专讗讛 would apply to the people. And the 诇砖讜谉 is not 诪砖诪注 like that. The 诇砖讜谉 is 诪砖诪注 that they both go on the person who is 注讜诇讛 诇专讙诇. Therefore, the 专讘讬谞讜 转诐 learns a different 驻砖讟, just the opposite. He says like this: that just like 讝讻讜专讱, the people, come to see 驻谞讬 讛砖讻讬谞讛, so when you come to see the 砖讻讬谞讛, at that moment 讛砖诐 looks at you with both of his eyes, so too, when you look back at him, you're supposed to be looking with both eyes. So it comes out that the word 讬专讗讛 and 讬专讗讛 both go on the person. That the person comes to see him, two things happen at that time: 讛砖诐 sees him then with two of his eyes, so too, when you see 讛砖诐, it's only if you're able to see with both of eyes, your eyes. And 转讜住驻讜转 says that according to this, another thing is understood, because the 诇砖讜谉 讘讗 on the 砖讻讬谞讛. It says you come to see. Now, how can you say the 诇砖讜谉 讘讗 on the 砖讻讬谞讛? The 砖讻讬谞讛 come, the 砖讻讬谞讛 is always in the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖. But according to this, both times where it says 讘讗, where it says it coming, doesn't refer to the 砖讻讬谞讛, but it refers to the person.
Another 拽讜砖讬讗 转讜住驻讜转 asks is concerning the opinion of 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 concerning the 转驻讬诇讬谉. 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 said that how do we know you have to have four 讘转讬诐 in the 转驻讬诇讬谉 砖诇 专讗砖? Because the word 讟讜讟驻讜转 itself means four. 讟讟 in the language of 讻转驻讬 means two, 驻转 in the language of 讗驻专讬拽讬 means two, together it's four. But 转讜住驻讜转 asks: If so, there should be more than four. Since the 转讜专讛 says three times the word 诇讟讜讟驻讜转, so from one of the words 诇讟讜讟驻讜转 we learn out four. Now when it says three times the word 诇讟讜讟驻讜转, so we should learn out that we have to have much more than four 讘转讬诐 in the 转驻讬诇讬谉. So therefore 转讜住驻讜转 answers that we must say that since we find in one word the amount of how many 讘转讬诐 we must have, so then we cannot learn anymore from the other 驻住讜拽讬诐. When do we say that when there are a few times mentioned in the 转讜专讛, each time comes to add? That's if the word itself doesn't tell us how much. So we say, from the amount of times mentioned in the 转讜专讛, we learn out this amount that we have to have. But here, since in the word itself the 转讜专讛 tells us the amount, so here we cannot say already that the other words come to add. Or another 转讬专讜抓 转讜住驻讜转 gives: since we don't find in the 转讜专讛 more than four 驻专砖讬讜转 where 转驻讬诇讬谉 is mentioned, it doesn't make any sense to say that we should have to have more than four 驻专砖讬讜转 in the 转驻讬诇讬谉. And therefore, since we find four in the word 讟讜讟驻讜转, and that is the maximum possible, so we say that's how much we're supposed to have. And another 转讬专讜抓 转讜住驻讜转 gives, that according to 专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 we say like this: one of the times where it says 讟讜讟驻讜转 we have to have for itself, just for the 讚讬谉 that you have to have 讟讜讟驻讜转. Now, from the other two times where it says 讟讜讟驻讜转, we only know four, because he wants to learn out that according to each language we have four. So since 讟讟 in 讻转驻讬 is two, so from the two times 讟讟 that we have in the two times 讟讜讟驻讜转, we know four. The first time 讟讜讟驻讜转 is used for itself. Now, from the other two, we have twice 讟讟, that means four. We also have twice 驻转, that's again four. So we don't say that it means eight; what we say it means is that according to each language we have four. So we don't learn it out from a combination of two languages, but we learn it out from each language in itself. So therefore we know it's four, because in 讗驻专讬拽讬 it's four, because twice the word 驻转, and in 讻转驻讬 it's four, because of twice the word 讟讟.
Concerning the end of the 讙诪专讗 where it said that 讚专讱 讘讬砖讜诇 讗住专讛 转讜专讛, that how do we know that it means 讞诇讘, not 讞诇讘? Because the 转讜专讛 says 诇讗 转讘砖诇, and 讚专讱 讘讬砖讜诇 讗住专讛 转讜专讛. So we said before the 驻砖讟 was that if it would be in 讞诇讘 it wouldn't be considered 讘讬砖讜诇, it wouldn't be called cooking, it would be called roasting. 转讜住驻讜转 mentions that there's another 驻砖讟: that 讚专讱 讘讬砖讜诇 讗住专讛 转讜专讛 means that the 转讜专讛 讗住专 only through cooking, which means that if you wouldn't have cooked it in the 讞诇讘 or whatever it should mean, it would be 诪讜转专. Now, if it would mean 讞诇讘, it still would be 讗住讜专, because 讞诇讘 is 讗住讜专. We know that 讞诇讘 of a 讘讛诪讛 is 讗住讜专. So since the 转讜专讛 says that it's only 讗住讜专 if you cook the 讙讚讬 in this, otherwise it would be 诪讜转专, so we know for sure it can't mean 讞诇讘, because 讞诇讘 would be 讗住讜专 even if you don't cook the 讙讚讬 in it. So therefore we must say, so what does it mean? It means 讞诇讘, because if you wouldn't cook the 讙讚讬 in the 讞诇讘 it would be 诪讜转专, because you're allowed to drink milk, you're allowed to eat the 讙讚讬 separately, but if you put them together it's 讗住讜专. So that's how we know it means 讞诇讘. But
专讘讬 注拽讬讘讗 讗讬讙专 in the 讙诇讬讜谉 讛砖状住 asks a 拽讜砖讬讗, that who says that it means in the 讞诇讘 which is 讗住讜专? We find certain fats in the 讘讛诪讛 which is 讗住讜专, and certain fats of the 讘讛诪讛 which is 诪讜转专. So even though generally the 讗住讜专, the 讟专讬驻讛, the non-kosher fat is called 讞诇讘, and the 讻砖专 fat is called 砖讜诪谉, but nevertheless, the fat which is 讻砖专 could also be called 讞诇讘. So maybe when the 转讜专讛 says 诇讗 转讘砖诇 讙讚讬 讘讞诇讘 讗诪讜, maybe it 讟讗拽注 means 讞诇讘, and it means the 讻砖专 讞诇讘? So what kind of a 专讗讬讛 do we have, since 讚专讱 讘讬砖讜诇 讗住专讛 转讜专讛, that if you wouldn't put the 讙讚讬 in it, it would be 诪讜转专? So that shows it couldn't be 讞诇讘, because 讞诇讘 would be 讗住讜专 even without the 讙讚讬. Who says? Maybe we're talking about the 讻砖专 讞诇讘, so then it would be 诪讜转专 if you wouldn't put the 讙讚讬 in, and what the 转讜专讛 is telling us that if you put the 讙讚讬 in, then it is 讗住讜专? So how can the 讙诪专讗 know, according to this 驻砖讟 of 转讜住驻讜转, that it means 讞诇讘, because if it would mean 讞诇讘, it would have been 讗住讜专 anyway? How do we know, maybe we're talking about 讻砖专 讞诇讘?