Sanhedrin 5
Can You Judge Alone If You're a Recognized Expert?
Part of Sanhedrin: chapter 1 · 49:18
Covers what qualifies someone as a mumcheh larabim able to judge without consent, why a Nasi's permission doesn't carry authority in Bavel, and the case of saving someone from a prohibition overriding rabbinic authority.
Audio Transcript
Jewish audio on Chabad.org. Today's 砖讬注讜专 will be in 诪住讻转 住谞讛讚专讬谉 讚祝 讛'. We will start from the last line on 讚祝 讚' 注诪讜讚 讘'. And the 讙诪专讗 says: 转谞讜 专讘谞谉, the 专讘谞谉 learned, 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转 讘砖诇砖讛, that when it comes to judge 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, you have to have a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 of three people. 讗诐 讛讬讛 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐, if there was one person who was a 诪讜诪讞讛, an expert, and he was an expert that was famous, and everyone accepted him as an expert, so then the 讚讬谉 is: 讚谉 讗驻讬诇讜 讬讞讬讚讬. So he could 驻住拽谉 even himself as one. And 专砖状讬 explains that this is based on the 驻住讜拽: 讘爪讚拽 转砖驻讜讟 注诪讬转讱, which means, with righteousness you should judge your friend, and since it says 转砖驻讜讟, 诇砖讜谉 讬讞讬讚, you, singular, so then we learn out that even one person could also judge. So therefore, he says, that if he was a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐, even one could judge a 讚讬谉. And
专砖状讬 also adds that this 讙诪专讗 goes according to the 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that 讗讬谉 讻讗谉 注讬专讜讘 驻专砖讬讜转, that there is no mixtures of 驻专砖讬讜转, as we learned before, that concerning the 驻住讜拽 讻讬 讛讜讗 讝讛, which teaches us the 讚讬谉 of 诪讜讚讛 讘诪拽爪转 in a normal case of 讛诇讜讜讗讛, so there's a 诪讞诇讜拽转 whether that belongs in the place where it is written, because it's written amongst the 讚讬谞讬诐 of a 砖讜诪专, or really it doesn't belong there and it belongs someplace else. If we hold that this is a 驻住讜拽 that is concerning a 讛诇讜讜讗讛, and it was put into a place where it really doesn't belong, so it comes out that amongst the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 砖讜诪专, where the 转讜专讛 tells us three times the name 讗诇拽讬诐 to teach us that you must have three people for a 讘讬转 讚讬谉, in that 驻专砖讛 we also have a 讚讬谉 concerning a regular loan, a regular debt, so if you hold that way, then even concerning a regular debt, regular 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, you also must have three. So therefore, we must say that this 讙诪专讗 here that says that even a 讬讞讬讚, if he is a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐, he is able to 驻住拽谉 the 讚讬谉, this 讙诪专讗 holds that there is no 注讬专讜讘 驻专砖讬讜转, and the 驻住讜拽 讻讬 讛讜讗 讝讛 does not refer to a regular 讚讬谉 of 讛诇讜讜讗讛, but this 驻住讜拽 refers 讟讗拽注 only to 砖讜诪专讬诐. So therefore, we have no 驻住讜拽 that tells us that by a 讛诇讜讜讗讛 you must have three people, therefore, he holds that if he was a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐, even if he is one, he's able to 驻住拽谉 the 讚讬谉. But
转讜住驻讜转 does not learn that way. 转讜住驻讜转 learns that this could go also according to the 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that there is 注讬专讜讘 驻专砖讬讜转, and the 转讜专讛, when it says 讻讬 讛讜讗 讝讛, does refer to a regular 讚讬谉 of 讛诇讜讜讗讛, and the 转讜专讛 put that 讚讬谉 amongst the 讚讬谉 of 砖讜诪专讬诐, where it says three times 讗诇拽讬诐, so 诇讻讗讜专讛 you should have to have three people even concerning a regular 讚讬谉 of 讛诇讜讜讗讛, but nevertheless, being that we have the 驻住讜拽 讘爪讚拽 转砖驻讜讟 注诪讬转讱, so that teaches us that even if you have one, you're also allowed to 驻住拽谉, and we say that this is only if he is a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐. And the 讙诪专讗 continues: 讗诪专 专讘 谞讞诪谉, so 专讘 谞讞诪谉 said, 讻讙讜谉 讗谞讗, for instance a person like I am, 讚谉 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转 讘讬讞讬讚讬, am able to judge monetary questions myself. 讜讻谉 讗诪专 专讘 讞讬讬讗, so did 专讘 讞讬讬讗 say: 讻讙讜谉 讗谞讗, for instance I, 讚谉 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转 讘讬讞讬讚讬, I'm able to judge 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转 by myself. And the reason is because both of them were a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐. And as it
seems from the 讙诪专讗 later, a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐 means that he was a person who was 讙诪讬专, he learned a lot of 砖诪讜注讜转, a lot of 讚讬谞讬诐 from his 专讘讬, and he was also 住讘讬专, which means that not only did he learn it, but he was also able to understand the reason behind it, and therefore he was able to come out with from those 讚讬谞讬诐 that he learned from his 专讘讬 with judgments concerning other 讚讬谞讬诐. He had a right to compare one case to another because he understood the proper reasons for the 讚讬谞讬诐 he learned, and therefore he was able to judge himself. So was 专讘 谞讞诪谉 and so was 专讘 讞讬讬讗. And 转讜住驻讜转 explains that this 讚讬谉 that the 讙诪专讗 says that a 讬讞讬讚 who is 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐 is able to judge himself means even in a case where the two 讘注诇讬 讚讬谞讬谉, the two people who are arguing, did not accept him upon them. Because if it would be speaking in a case where they were 诪拽讘诇 that he should be their judge, then even if he wasn't a 诪讜诪讞讛, the 讚讬谉 is that he's able to judge. When the 讙诪专讗 says that since he is a 诪讜诪讞讛, that's why he's able to judge himself, that means that even if they were not 诪拽讘诇, nevertheless, he has the authority to judge them by himself, which means that even if they don't want to come, he is able to force them to come. And from this 转讜住驻讜转 learns out that 住转诐 three people, when they sit down as a 讘讬转 讚讬谉, also have a right to judge a person even if he doesn't want. Because we know that three people are, instead, are just as strong as a 讬讞讬讚 诪讜诪讞讛, so therefore, if we say here that a 讬讞讬讚 诪讜诪讞讛, and one person, but if he is a 诪讜诪讞讛, is able to force them to judge themselves, so too can a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 of three even if they are not 诪讜诪讞讬谉. And the truth is, according to the 诪讗谉 讚讗诪专 that holds that 讘讚讬注讘讚 even if they were two people it's also considered a 讘讬转 讚讬谉, the opinion of 砖诪讜讗诇, but it's called a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 讞爪讜祝, so even two people could force them to judge. The only thing is they would be considered a 讘讬转 讚讬谉 讞爪讜祝. And this is even if they were not 诪拽讘诇, because if they would have been 诪拽讘诇, then certainly they could do it. But even if they were not 诪拽讘诇, but being that it's considered a 讘讬转 讚讬谉, they could force the person to go to this 讚讬谉 转讜专讛. But then
转讜住驻讜转 asks: 讗讬, we learned later on in 讚祝 讻状讙 it says, 讝讛 讘讜专专 诇讜 讗讞讚 讜讝讛 讘讜专专 诇讜 讗讞讚, that each one chooses one in certain cases, is 诪砖诪注 that only if he chooses, if he wants, then you could judge him, but you can't force them to judge themselves. How can we say here that even by force this one person or the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 has a right to make them come to the 讚讬谉 转讜专讛? So 转讜住驻讜转 says, when do you need the person's 讚注转? Only if he says, "I don't want to go to this person, I want to go to a different 讘讬转 讚讬谉." But if he says, "I don't want to come at all to 讘讬转 讚讬谉," or if he doesn't want to take the 讚讬谉 转讜专讛 in his city, he wants to go to a different city, then 转讜住驻讜转 says, then you could force them to come to the 讚讬谉 转讜专讛, which is to the three people or in this case, to a 讬讞讬讚 诪讜诪讞讛. Then 转讜住驻讜转 asks another 拽讜砖讬讗: here the 讙诪专讗 says that if he was a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐, he has a right to judge himself. And not only that this is a 讚讬谉, but 专讘 谞讞诪谉 actually said that a person like me is able to judge himself, and that's what 专讘 讞讬讬讗 said. So 转讜住驻讜转 asks, we have a 诪砖谞讛 in 驻专拽讬 讗讘讜转 where it says, 讗诇 转讛讬 讚谉 讬讞讬讚讬, a person should not judge all by himself, 砖讗讬谉 讚谉 讬讞讬讚讬 讗诇讗 讗讞讚, that the only one that judges all by himself is 讛砖诐, but a human being should not take upon himself the responsibility to judge by himself. So how could the
讙诪专讗 say here that a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐 is able to judge himself? And 转讜住驻讜转 answers that 诪爪讚 讛讚讬谉, a person could judge himself if he is a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐. But when it says in the 诪砖谞讛 that you shouldn't, that's just a good advice, because after all, it's possible that he will make a mistake. So therefore, the advice is: do not judge yourself. 讗讬, if so, the question is that why didn't 专讘 谞讞诪谉 and 专讘 讞讬讬讗 listen to this good advice? Why did they say that they did judge themselves? So 转讜住驻讜转 has two 驻砖讟讬诐. One 驻砖讟 转讜住驻讜转 says is that when 专讘 谞讞诪谉 said 讻讙讜谉 讗谞讗, for instance, one like me, he didn't mean that he actually did it. He just wanted to give an example of a person that 注诇 驻讬 讛诇讻讛 is allowed to judge himself. So he said a person like me is allowed to do it, and the same with 专讘 讞讬讬讗. But 诇驻讜注诇 诪诪砖 it doesn't mean that 专讘 谞讞诪谉 or 专讘 讞讬讬讗 judged themselves, because probably they accepted the good advice from the 诪砖谞讛 not to judge yourself. Another 驻砖讟 转讜住驻讜转 says that the case of 专讘 谞讞诪谉 and 专讘 讞讬讬讗, being that they were so 专讙讬诇 in 讚讬谉 转讜专讜转, it was so common that they had 讚讬谉 转讜专讜转, so they were very sure that they would not make a mistake, and therefore they were allowed to, even after taking the good advice, to judge all by themselves. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues: 讗讬讘注讬讗 诇讛讜, they ask an 讗讬讘注讬讗, a question was asked in the 讬砖讬讘讛: when 专讘 谞讞诪谉 for instance said 讻讙讜谉 讗谞讗, for instance one like me am able to judge myself, what did he mean? Did he mean because 讚讙诪讬专谞讗, he learned, he heard a lot of 砖诪讜注讜转, a lot of 讚讬谞讬诐 from his 专讘讬, plus 讜住讘讬专讬谞讗, he understood them, he knew the reasons behind them and therefore he was able to compare one case to another, plus 讜谞拽讟谞讗 专砖讜转讗, I received 专砖讜转, he had permission, authorization from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗? The 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 was the head of the Jews in the 讙诇讜转 in 讘讘诇. So he had the proper authorization from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗. Is this what he meant, that that is the reason why he is able to judge himself, because in addition to having the 讚讙诪讬专谞讗 讜住讘讬专讬谞讗, knowing the 讚讬谞讬诐 plus understanding them, he also had 专砖讜转, that's why he was able to judge himself? 讗讘诇 诇讗 谞拽讬讟 专砖讜转讗, but if he wouldn't have had the 专砖讜转, if he wouldn't have gotten the authorization, 讚讬谞讬讛 诇讗 讚讬谞讗, his 讚讬谉 would not have been a 讚讬谉, he wouldn't have the right to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 himself, and if he would have 驻住拽谞讚 himself, the 讚讬谉 would not have been valid? 讗讜 讚讬诇诪讗, or maybe 讗祝 注诇 讙讘 讚诇讗 谞拽讬讟 专砖讜转讗, even if he didn't get the 专砖讜转, the authorization, 讚讬谞讬讛 讚讬谞讗, the 讚讬谉 is still a 讚讬谉? And the 讙诪专讗 says: 转讗 砖诪注, come hear, I will answer your question, because 讚诪专 讝讜讟专讗 讘专讬讛 讚专讘 谞讞诪谉, 诪专 讝讜讟专讗 the son of 专讘 谞讞诪谉, 讚谉 讚讬谞讗, he 驻住拽谞讚 a 讚讬谉, he judged by himself, 讜讟注讛, and he made a mistake. 讗转讗 诇拽诪讬讛 讚专讘 讬讜住祝, he came to 专讘 讬讜住祝. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so 专讘 讬讜住祝 said to him: 讗讬 拽讬讘诇讜讱 注诇讬讬讛讜, if the two 讘注诇讬 讚讬谞讬诐, the two people who are arguing, accepted you upon them that you should judge them yourself, then 诇讗 转砖诇诐, you should not pay. It is not your obligation to pay the one that lost the money by your mistake. 讜讗讬 诇讗, but if they did not accept you upon them鈥攁nd as 专砖状讬 explains, it means that when they asked you to take the 讚讬谉 转讜专讛, they didn't didn't say, "We accept you, whatever you will say we will do," but they said, "We want you to 驻住拽谉 according to the 讚讬谉 of the 转讜专讛." Now, since you made a mistake, you did not 驻住拽谉 according to the 讚讬谉 of the 转讜专讛, so therefore, concerning your 驻住拽 讚讬谉 the way you gave it, they did not accept you, because they accepted you only if you will 驻住拽谉 according to the 转讜专讛. So if that's what they said, they didn't accept you 100%, they only accepted you to 驻住拽谉 according to the 讚讬谉 of the 转讜专讛, 讝讬诇 砖诇讬诐. So therefore, go and pay. Since you were the one that caused the loss, you have to pay. So we see from here, 砖诪注 诪讬谞讛, this proves that 讻讬 诇讗 谞拽讟 专砖讜转讗, 讚讬谞讬讛 讚讬谞讗, that even if they didn't get 专砖讜转, the 讚讬谉 is a 讚讬谉. Since he said to them that if they didn't accept you 100%, you have to pay, why didn't he say that if they didn't accept you, then your whole 讚讬谉 is no 讚讬谉? He didn't say that. So obviously, even if they didn't accept him, the 讚讬谉 is still a 讚讬谉, the only thing is he is responsible to pay. So that shows that even though he didn't have 专砖讜转, the proof that he didn't have 专砖讜转 is because if he did have 专砖讜转, then even if they didn't accept him upon them, he still wouldn't have to pay. Being that he said that you do have to pay if they didn't accept you, obviously he didn't have the proper authorization from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗. And nevertheless, all he said was that you would have to pay, but he didn't say that your whole 讚讬谉 is no 讚讬谉. So that shows, 砖诪注 诪讬谞讛, that even if you don't have the proper 专砖讜转, if he is 讙诪讬专 讜住讘讬专, he learned and he understands the 讚讬谞讬诐, so then he is allowed to 驻住拽谉 himself if he is a 诪讜诪讞讛 诇专讘讬诐, even without having the proper 专砖讜转. This is the way 专砖"讬 learns that when he said if they do not accept you upon them, it meant that they did accept you, but they said, "We only accept you to 驻住拽谉 according to the 转讜专讛," and therefore, if he didn't, concerning that specific way he 驻住拽谞讚, that's where they didn't accept him. But 转讜住驻讜转 learns that when the 讙诪专讗 says that if they didn't accept you, then you have to pay, it means that they didn't accept him at all. And 转讜住驻讜转 proves the point that it couldn't be the case where all they said was, "We accept you to 驻住拽谉 a 讚讬谉 转讜专讛," but what it really means is that they said, "We don't accept you at all," and in that case he told him you would have to pay. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues, 讗诪专 专讘, 专讘 said, 讛讗讬 诪讗谉 讚讘注讬 诇诪讬讚谉 讚讬谞讗, if somebody wants to 驻住拽谉 a 讚讬谉, wants to 驻住拽谉 a 讚讬谉 转讜专讛, 讜讗讬 讟注讬, 诪讘注讬 诇诪讬驻讟专讬讛, and if he makes a mistake, he wants to do something that he should be 驻讟讜专 from paying, 诇讬砖拽讜诇 专砖讜转讗 诪讘讬 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, let him take the 专砖讜转, the permission, the authorization from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗. So then, even if he makes a mistake, he doesn't have to pay. 讜讻谉 讗诪专 砖诪讜讗诇, so did 砖诪讜讗诇 say, 诇讬砖拽讜诇 专砖讜转讗 诪讘讬 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, let him get the authorization from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, and then he will be 驻讟讜专 to pay even if he makes a mistake. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues, 驻砖讬讟讗 诪讛讻讗 诇讛讻讗, 讜诪讛转诐 诇讛转诐, 讜诪讛讻讗 诇讛转诐, 诪讛谞讬. We know that we said before in 讘讘诇, the head of the 讬讬讚谉 was called the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, and he was the one that gave the permission to 驻住拽谉, he was the one that gave the authorization to 驻住拽谉. In 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 they also had a head, the 谞砖讬讗 of the 讬讬讚谉, and he would give the authorization there. So the 讙诪专讗 is saying as follows, that this is clear that if a person got authorization from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, so he is able to 驻住拽谉 all over 讘讘诇. Since the authority of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 applied to the whole of 讘讘诇, so the authorization he got here is good for here. Also it's simple, 诪讛转诐 诇讛转诐, if he got authorization from the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, so he has the right to 驻住拽谉 all over 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. It is also clear, 诪讛讻讗 诇讛转诐, that if he got authorization here in 讘讘诇 from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, he has the right to 驻住拽谉 even in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. Why? Because the authority of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 was stronger than the authority of the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. And he says why, because 讚讛讻讗 砖讘讟, 讜讛转诐 诪讞讜拽拽. Here in 讘讘诇, the head of the 讙诇讜转, the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, is called 砖讘讟. He is the leader with the title 砖讘讟, and 砖讘讟 comes from the word whip, that he has a strong authority, he is able to force certain 讚讬谞讬诐 because he got the authority even from the 讙讜讬讬砖注 government. 讜讛转诐, but in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, 诪讞讜拽拽, he's only called a 诪讞讜拽拽, which is a lower level, which is more or less like a teacher only. 讻讚转谞讬讗, as we learn in a 讘专讬讬转讗, the 驻住讜拽 says, 诇讗 讬住讜专 砖讘讟 诪讬讛讜讚讛, there will never stop the whip, the 砖讘讟, the rulership from 讬讛讜讚讛, that all the rulers will always come from the 砖讘讟 讬讛讜讚讛. So what does that mean? 讗诇讜 专讗砖讬 讙诇讬讜转 砖讘讘讘诇, that refers to the 专讗砖讬 讙诇讬讜转, to the head of the 讙诇讜转 that's in 讘讘诇, 砖专讜讚讬谉 讗转 讬砖专讗诇 讘砖讘讟, why are they referred to as 砖讘讟? Because they would rule over the 讬讬讚谉 with a whip, with strength, with force. Then when the 驻住讜拽 continues, 讜诪讞讜拽拽 诪讘讬谉 专讙诇讬讜, stop, that it will never stop, the 诪讞讜拽拽, between its feet, that the 诪讞讜拽拽 will always come from 讬讛讜讚讛, who does this refer to? 讗诇讜 讘谞讬 讘谞讬讜 砖诇 讛诇诇, this refers to the descendants of 讛诇诇, 砖诪诇诪讚讬诐 转讜专讛 讘专讘讬诐, that they teach 转讜专讛 讘专讘讬诐 in public in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, that the leaders of the 讬讬讚谉 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 will be also from 砖讘讟 讬讛讜讚讛. They were the grandchildren of 讛诇诇, who came from 砖讘讟 讬讛讜讚讛. So we see that concerning the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, the 驻住讜拽 refers to him as the 砖讘讟, and concerning the leaders of the 讬讬讚谉 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, the 驻住讜拽 refers to him as the 诪讞讜拽拽, and 砖讘讟 is stronger than 诪讞讜拽拽. So therefore, it's understood that if he got the authority from the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, so this gives him the authority to 驻住拽谉 even in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. The question is 诪讛转诐 诇讛讻讗, from there to here, if he got the authorization from the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, does this give him a right to 驻住拽谉 in 讘讘诇? 诪讗讬, what is the 讚讬谉? But 转讜住驻讜转 asks a 拽砖讬讗, from this 讙诪专讗 is 诪砖诪注 that 砖讘讟 is greater than 诪讞讜拽拽, and therefore the authority of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 was more than the authority of the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. But 转讜住驻讜转 asks that the 讙诪专讗 says in 驻住讞讬诐 讚祝 谞"讗, that concerning the 讬讬讚谉 of 讘讘诇, 讗谞谉 讻讬讬驻讬谞谉 诇讛讜, or we are 讻驻讜祝 to them, that we are 讘讟诇, we are under them, we from 讘讘诇 are also 讘讟诇 to the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, therefore we must do, concerning the 讚讬谉 that the 讙诪专讗 is talking about there, like the people of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. So there is 诪砖诪注 that there was a stronger, greater authority to the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 over the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 in 讘讘诇. And 专讘讬谞讜 转诐 answers that there it is only talking about things of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专, concerning 讚讬谞讬诐 of what you're allowed and what you're not allowed to do, has nothing to do with money questions. So there we say that the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 had a stronger power than the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 of 讘讘诇, because we know that the people of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 are smarter, were greater scholars, because we know 讗讜讬专讗 讚讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 诪讞讻讬诐. The 讙诪专讗 says that the 讗讜讬专, the air even of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 makes you smart, so the people of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 were smarter, so concerning 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专, they knew better, so we had to follow them. And we 讟讗拽注 see here too that concerning 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专, concerning scholarship, concerning learning, even in this 讙诪专讗 we see that the people from 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 was greater, because when he refers to the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, he says that what is the job of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗? 砖专讜讚讬谉 讗转 讬砖专讗诇 讘砖讘讟, that the 专讗砖讬 讙诇讬讜转 of 讘讘诇 would control the 讬讬讚谉 with a whip. Concerning the 谞砖讬讗讬诐 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, it says that what do they do? 砖诪诇诪讚讬诐 转讜专讛 讘专讘讬诐, they teach 转讜专讛 讘专讘讬诐. So we see that concerning learning 转讜专讛, the authority of the people, the 谞砖讬讗讬诐 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, was stronger than of 讘讘诇, because their 注谞讬谉 was more to learn 转讜专讛, while the one of 讘讘诇, the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 of 讘讘诇, his job was more to control the 讬讬讚谉, 专讜讚讬诐 讗转 讬砖专讗诇 讘砖讘讟. So therefore, there when we're talking about an 注谞讬谉 of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专, so the 讙诪专讗 讟讗拽注 says that we in 讘讘诇 are 讘讟诇 to them, to 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. But when we talk about monetary things, concerning taking away money, which is connected to the 讚讬谉 of 讛驻拽专 讘讬转 讚讬谉 讛驻拽专, that the 讘讬转 讚讬谉 has the authority of being 诪驻拽讬注, taking away the ownership of a person's possessions and giving it to somebody else, etc., so concerning that, so in 讘讘诇 the authority was stronger. Since they were 砖讘讟, they had the right to force the people to do things, and therefore, concerning taking away money or 驻住拽谞'讬谞讙 讚讬谞讬诐, concerning who money belongs to, who property and things like that belong to, that was stronger in the hands of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗. And the reason for that itself, 转讜住驻讜转 says, because the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, the 专讗砖讬 讙诇讬讜转 of 讘讘诇, they came from 砖讘讟 讬讛讜讚讛, but it was from the 讝讻专讬诐, from the males, while the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 came from the 谞拽讘讜转, from the females, as it says in 讬专讜砖诇诪讬. And therefore, there was a stronger power in the hands of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 than in the hands of the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. But in the meantime, we're still with the question that what is the 讚讬谉, if one got authority and authorization from the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, is that valid for him to 驻住拽谉 also in 讘讘诇? And the 讙诪专讗 says, 转讗 砖诪注, come and hear, and I will answer the question: that 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 讚谉 讚讬谞讗 讜讟注讛, 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 驻住拽谞'讚 a 讚讬谉 and made a mistake. And let's not confuse this with 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛, as 转讜住驻讜转 says, because 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛 was a grandson of 讞谞讛. 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛 means 专讘讛 the son of the son of 讞谞讛, so he was a grandson of 讞谞讛. And here, as we will see later in the 讙诪专讗, this 专讘讛 was a nephew of 专讘 讞讬讬讗. Now, 专讘 讞讬讬讗 was a brother to 讞谞讛. So if he was the grandson of 讞谞讛, then he couldn't be his nephew. So therefore, 转讜住驻讜转 says we have to be 讙讜专住 here, as we said before, 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, 专讘讛 the son of 讞谞讛, not 专讘讛 the grandson of 讞谞讛, because 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛, 转讜住驻讜转 says, he was in the time of 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉. And he was 讟讗拽注 the grandson of 讞谞讛. But 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, he was a nephew of 专讘 讞讬讬讗, he was the son of 讞谞讛. But then 转讜住驻讜转 says, some are 讙讜专住 in the 讙诪专讗 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛. 讗讬讬, it comes out that he was a grandson of 讞谞讛, and 讞谞讛 was a brother of 专讘 讞讬讬讗, and later in the 讙诪专讗 专讘 讞讬讬讗 refers to this 专讘讛 as his nephew, so some say that he really wasn't a grandson of 讞谞讛. His name was 讘专 讞谞讛, so 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛 means 专讘讛 the son of 讘专 讞谞讛, so really he wasn't a grandson. But 转讜住驻讜转 says this is
not the right 讙讬专住讗, the right 讙讬专住讗 really is 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛. And the story is that this 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 驻住拽谞'讚 a 讚讬谉 and made a mistake. Now the 讚讬谉 that he 驻住拽谞'讚 was in 讘讘诇, and he made the mistake in 讘讘诇. 讗讝诇 诇拽诪讬讛 讚专讘 讞讬讬讗, he came to 专讘 讞讬讬讗, when he went up to 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, came to 专讘 讞讬讬讗, to his uncle 专讘 讞讬讬讗, and he asked him, what should he do? 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so 专讘 讞讬讬讗 said to him, 讗讬 拽讬讘诇讜讱 注诇讬讬讛讜, if they accepted you upon them, if the two 讘注诇讬 讚讬谞讬诐 accepted you that you should 驻住拽谉 the 讚讬谉 by yourself, 诇讗 转砖诇诐, do not have to pay. 讜讗讬 诇讗, if they did not accept you, 讝讬诇 砖诇讬诐, go and pay. Now the question is, 讜专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 专砖讜转讗 讛讜讬 谞拽讬讟, 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 had the permission! As the 讙诪专讗 will say later on, that 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 got the permission from the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐! And nevertheless, he said to him that if they did not accept you upon them, then you have to pay. But didn't we learn before that if you have the authorization, the 专砖讜转, you do not have to pay if you made a mistake? So why did he say to him here that if they didn't accept you have to pay? 砖诪注 诪讬谞讛, that shows, 诪讛转诐 诇讛讻讗 诇讗 诪讛谞讬, that from there to here doesn't help! Because, as we'll see later, the authorization he got was from the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. This 讚讬谉 that he 驻住拽谞'讚 and made a mistake was in 讘讘诇. So we
see that the authorization you get in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 doesn't help for 驻住拽谞'讬谞讙 讚讬谞讬诐 in 讘讘诇, and therefore he said to him that in 讘讘诇 it's as if you didn't have the authorization, and since you didn't have the authorization, you have to pay if you made a mistake. 砖诪注 诪讬谞讛, that proves that the authorization of the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 doesn't help for 讘讘诇. Then the 讙诪专讗 asks, 讜诇讗 诪讛谞讬? Doesn't it help? You said that the authorization of the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 doesn't help for 讘讘诇, but it's not so! 讜讛讗 专讘讛 讘专 专讘 讛讜谞讗 讻讬 讛讜讛 诪讬谞爪讬 讘讛讚讬 讚讘讬 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, when 专讘讛 讘专 专讘 讛讜谞讗 would have arguments with the family of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗, 讗诪专, he said, 诇讗讜 诪讬谞讬讬讻讜 谞拽讬讟谞讗 专砖讜转讗, I didn't get my 专砖讜转, my authorization from you. 谞拽讬讟谞讗 专砖讜转讗 诪讗讘讗 诪专讬, I received my 专砖讜转, my authorization from my father, who was 专讘 讛讜谞讗, 讜讗讘讗 诪专讬 诪专讘, and my father received the authorization from 专讘, 讜专讘 诪专讘讬 讞讬讬讗, 专讘 received his authorization from 专讘 讞讬讬讗, 讜专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 诪专讘讬, and 专讘 讞讬讬讗 received his authorization from 专讘讬, who was the 谞砖讬讗 in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. So we
see that he told them that since he received the authorization in 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, he is not under the authority of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗. But we just said before that the authority given by the 谞砖讬讗 doesn't help for 讘讘诇 because the authority of 讘讘诇 is stronger than the authority of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. So how did he say to them that his authority is not dependent on them because he got it from his father, from 专讘, from 专讘 讞讬讬讗, going back to 专讘讬? So the 讙诪专讗 answers, 讘诪讬诇讬 讚注诇诪讗 讛讜讗 讚讗讜拽讬谞讛讜, he just said 住转诐 words to them. In other words, really 注诇 驻讬 讛诇讻讛 the authority of 讘讘诇 is stronger than the authority of the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, but he just wanted to push them away, so he said to them, I didn't get the authority from you, but I got it from the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. But in 讛诇讻讛 the truth is that the authority of the 专讬砖 讙诇讜转讗 of 讘讘诇 is stronger than the authority of the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. And 转讜住驻讜转 explains that when he said to them that I received my 专砖讜转 from my father, and he received it from 专讘, and 专讘 from 专讘 讞讬讬讗, and 专讘 讞讬讬讗 from 专讘讬, because the 讚讬谉 is that the one that received 专砖讜转, automatically he is able to give 专砖讜转 too. That means that you don't only have to go to the top person, to the 谞砖讬讗 himself, but one that received 专砖讜转 from the 谞砖讬讗 is able to give 专砖讜转 himself too. As we
find 转讜住驻讜转 says, later in the 讙诪专讗 on 讚祝 讬状讙 it says concerning 讚讬谞讬 拽谞住讜转 that only a person who has 住诪讬讻讛, the 住诪讬讻讛 that used to be in the time of the 转谞讗讬诐, that was 住诪讜讱 讗讬砖 诪驻讬 讗讬砖 注讚 诪砖讛 专讘讬谞讜, only a person like that was able to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬 拽谞住讜转, to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of fines. Still it says that one who has 住诪讬讻讛 himself is able to give 住诪讬讻讛 to somebody else and is able to give 专砖讜转 to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬 拽谞住讜转. As the 讙诪专讗 says there, that 讘专诐 讝讻讜专 讗讜转讜 讛讗讬砖 诇讟讜讘, that remember 讬讛讜讚讛 讘谉 讘讘讗 诇讟讜讘, because if not for him, there would be no more 讚讬谞讬 拽谞住讜转, because he was the one that gave the 住诪讬讻讛 to others. Even though he wasn't a 谞砖讬讗, but he received 住诪讬讻讛 from somebody else, and therefore he had the authority to give 住诪讬讻讛 to others and give permission to 驻住拽谉 even 讚讬谞讬 拽谞住讜转. But according to that, 转讜住驻讜转 asks, how come in the 讙诪专讗 later, as we're going to learn soon, the 讙诪专讗 is going to tell a story that 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 asked 专讘讬 to give his nephew 专砖讜转 to 驻住拽谉? But the question is, since 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 himself had the 专砖讜转 from 专讘讬, so why didn't 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 himself give the 专砖讜转 to his nephew? Why did he have to ask 专讘讬 to give the 专砖讜转? And 转讜住驻讜转 says, maybe because it was in the city of 专讘讬. Now, in his own city, there no one else is allowed to give 专砖讜转, but the one that, the 专讘, so to speak, the head of the city. But otherwise, anybody himself who has 专砖讜转, is able to give 专砖讜转 to somebody else. Then we will continue in the 讙诪专讗: 讜讻讬 诪讗讞专 讚诇讗 诪讛谞讬, 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 专砖讜转讗 讚谞拽讬讟 诇诪讛 诇讬? We said before that the 专砖讜转 you get from the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 doesn't help to 驻住拽谉 in 讘讘诇. So then why did 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 receive, ask for the 专砖讜转 before he left from 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 to 讘讘诇, if it wouldn't help him anyway? The 讙诪专讗 answers: 诇注讬讬专讜转 讛注讜诪讚讬诐 注诇 讛讙讘讜诇. This was not for 讘讘诇, but for the cities who are by the border, a certain cities by the border that were an extension of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. So on the way, when he came to those cities, he wanted to have the authority to 驻住拽谉, and therefore, before he left, he got the authority from the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, because concerning them, that 专砖讜转 helped, because they were still part of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇. Then the 讙诪专讗 asks: 诪讗讬 专砖讜转讗? What is the story concerning the 专砖讜转 that 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 received? We said before that 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 had 专砖讜转, and that was the whole source of the question. What's the story concerning his getting the authorization from the 谞砖讬讗 of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇? The 讙诪专讗 tells the story: 讻讚谞讞讬转 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛
诇讘讘诇, when 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 was going to 讘讘诇, 讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 诇专讘讬, so 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 said to 专讘讬: 讘谉 讗讞讬 讬讜专讚 诇讘讘诇, my nephew, the son of my brother, is going to 讘讘诇, 讬讜专讛? Can he 驻住拽谉? And this is an expression used concerning 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专, not concern concerning monetary things, but concerning questions of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专, what you're allowed to do and what you're not allowed to do. So he asked him: 讬讜专讛? Can he 驻住拽谉? And he answered: 讬讜专讛. Yes, he could 驻住拽谉. 讬讚讬谉? Can he 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, can he 驻住拽谉 monetary questions? And he answered: 讬讚讬谉. Yes, he could 驻住拽 monetary questions. 讬转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转? Can he be 诪转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转? A 讘讻讜专 is a firstborn, and the 讚讬谉 is that every firstborn animal is 拽讜讚砖, is a 拽专讘谉 to 讛壮. And in the time of the 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, it would be brought as a 拽专讘谉. Nowadays, that we have no 讘讬转 讛诪拽讚砖, so then we can't bring it as a 拽专讘谉, so it is 拽讜讚砖, it is holy. The only thing that you could do with it is if it gets a 诪讜诐, if it gets a blemish, then you're allowed to 砖讞讟 it, then it's 讞讜诇讬谉. But the only thing is, only if it gets a 诪讜诐 拽讘讜注, a 诪讜诐, a blemish which is permanent. But if it gets a 诪讜诐 注讜讘专, a temporary 诪讜诐, then the 讚讬谉 is that you're not allowed to 砖讞讟 it, because the 诪讜诐 will go away and it's still a 拽专讘谉, it's still 拽讚砖讬诐. And this is one of the things that the 专讘谞谉, the 讞讻诪讬诐 of those days, had to know, to see which 诪讜诐 is considered a 诪讜诐 拽讘讜注, a permanent one, and which is a temporary one, in order to be 诪转讬专 that they should 砖讞讟 the 讘讻讜专. So that's what he asked him: 讬转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转? Does he also have a right to be 诪转讬专, to allow a 讘讻讜专 to be geschacht? Can he 驻住拽谉 the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬谉? And he answered: 讬转讬专. Yes, he could be 诪转讬专. Then there's another story: 讻讚谞讞讬转 专讘 诇讘讘诇,
when 专讘 went down to 讘讘诇, 讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 诇专讘讬, so 专讘讬 讞讬讬讗 said to 专讘讬: 讘谉 讗讞讜转讬 讬讜专讚 诇讘讘诇, my nephew, but this time he said the son of my sister, is going to 讘讘诇, 讬讜专讛? Can he 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专? So he said: 讬讜专讛. Yes, he could 驻住拽谉. 讬讚讬谉? Can he 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转? 讬讚讬谉. He could 驻住拽谉, he answered. 讬转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转? Can he also be 诪转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转? Can he 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 concerning 诪讜诪讬谉? So he answered: 讗诇 讬转讬专. He should not be 诪转讬专. He has no right, no 专砖讜转 to do that. The 讙诪专讗 ask the 拽砖讬讗: 诪讗讬 砖谞讗 诇诪专 讚拽讗 拽专讬 讘谉 讗讞讬, what is the difference, why to 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 he said, he called him the son of my brother, 讜诪讗讬 砖谞讗 诇诪专 讚拽讗 拽专讬 讘谉 讗讞讜转讬, but concerning 专讘 he said, he is the son of my sister? 讜讻讬 转讬诪讗, and if you're going to say: 讛讻讬 讛讜讛 诪注砖讛, this is the way the story was, this was the fact, that 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 was the son of his brother, that's how he was his nephew, and 专讘 was the son of his sister, that's how he was his nephew, but that is not so, because both of them were children of his brothers. Because 讚讗诪专 诪专, because we know the the fact is that 讗讬讘讜, a person called 讗讬讘讜, 讜讞谞讛, 讜砖讬诇讗, 讜诪专转讗, 讜专讘讬 讞讬讬讗, 讻讜诇讛讜 讘谞讬 讗讘讗 讘专 讗讞讗 讻专住诇讗 诪讻驻专讬 讛讜讜. All of them All of them were sons of 讗讘讗 讘专 讗讞讬 讻专住诇讗 from 讻驻专讬. So it comes out that the father of 专讘, who was 讞谞讗, was a brother to 专讘 讞讬讬讗, because as we just said that 讞谞讗 was a son of this 讗讘讗 讘专 讗讞讬, and so was 专讘 讞讬讬讗, and also was 讗讬讘讜. 讗讬讘讜 was the father of 专讘. He was also a brother of 专讘 讞讬讬讗. So it comes out that 专讘 was a son of 专讘 讞讬讬讗's brother, and so was 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛. So the question is: why, when he mentioned to 专讘讬 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, he said, "The son of my brother," when he mentioned 专讘 to to 专讘讬, he said, "The son of my sister," when he was really the son of his brother? The 讙诪专讗 answers: 专讘 讘专 讗讞讜讛 讚讛讜讛 讘专 讗讞转讬讛. 专讘 was the son of 专讘 讞讬讬讗's brother, but he was also the son of 专讘 讞讬讬讗's sister. While 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, 讘专 讗讞讜讛 讚诇讗 讘专 讗讞转讬讛. 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 was the son of 专讘 讞讬讬讗's brother, but not of 专讘 讞讬讬讗's sister. Which means that 专讘's parents were both a brother and a sister to 专讘 讞讬讬讗. Between themselves they were nothing, but to 专讘 讞讬讬讗, they were both a brother and a sister, as the 讙诪专讗 says in 驻住讞讬诐 讚祝 讚', that 专讘's father was a brother to 专讘 讞讬讬讗 from one father, and 专讘's mother was a sister to 专讘 讞讬讬讗 from one mother. So between themselves they were not related at all, but to 专讘 讞讬讬讗, one was a brother, one was a sister. And therefore, when he mentioned 专讘, he also mentioned that he is 讘谉 讗讞讜转讬, the son of my sister. 讜讗讬讘注讬转 讗讬诪讗, and if you want, there's another reason I could give you why he referred to 专讘 by saying 讘谉 讗讞讜转讬, the son of my sister: 注诇 砖诐 讞讻诪转讜, because of his scholarship, because of his wisdom, his 讞讻诪讛. He was a greater 讞讻诐 than 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, and therefore he called him by the word sister, 讚讻转讬讘, because the 驻住讜拽 says, 讗诪讜专 诇讞讻诪讛 讗讞讜转讬 讗转, "Say to the 讞讻诪讛, you are my sister." And the 讙诪专讗 in 拽讬讚讜砖讬谉 explains that it means that a person should be so well-versed in his 讞讻诪讛 as clear as it is that you're not allowed to marry your sister. But whatever the reason is, we see that the 转讜专讛, the 驻住讜拽 in 诪砖诇讬 refers to 讞讻诪讛 as a sister. So therefore, since 专讘 was a big 讞讻诐, he mentioned the word sister, 讗讞讜转讬, concerning 专讘. But then the 讙诪专讗 asks another question: 讬转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转? 讗诇 讬转讬专. When he asked concerning 专讘, "Does he have the 专砖讜转 to be 诪转讬专 讘讻讜专讜转, to 驻住拽谉 the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐?" He said, "No." 诪讗讬 讟注诪讗? What is the reason? When he asked this concerning 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, he said, "Yes." But when he asked concerning 专讘, he said, "No." Why did he do that? 讗讬诇讬诪讗 诪砖讜诐 讚诇讗 讞讻讬诐, if you're going to say because he wasn't that great of a 讞讻诐, so therefore he didn't want to allow him to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐, that's not so. 讛讗 拽讗诪专讬谞谉, didn't we just say, 讚讞讻讬诐 讟讜讘讗? He was even a greater 讞讻诐. We just explained that why did he refer to him as 讘谉 讗讞讜转讬? Because he was a greater 讞讻诐 than 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛. So we can't say that the reason why he didn't give him the permission to 驻住拽谉 the 诪讜诪讬诐 was because he wasn't a great 讞讻诐. 讗诇讗, so we must say, 诪砖讜诐 讚诇讗 讘拽讬 讘诪讜诪讬谉. He was 讟讗拽注 a big 讞讻诐, but he wasn't well-versed specifically in 诪讜诪讬诐. He didn't know exactly which 诪讜诐 is a 诪讜诐 拽讘讜注, a permanent one, and which is a temporary one. But that can't be either, 讜讛讗诪专 专讘, because 专讘 said, 砖诪讜谞讛 注砖专 讞讚砖讬诐 讙讚诇转讬 讗爪诇 专讜注讛 讘讛诪讛, "For 18 months I raised myself, I stayed with a shepherd of 讘讛诪讜转, 诇诪讬讚注, to know, to learn, 讗讬讝讛 诪讜诐 拽讘讜注 讜讗讬讝讛 诪讜诐 注讜讘专, which blemish is a permanent one and which blemish is a temporary one." So we see that he was well-versed in the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐. So we can't say that the reason that he said he should not 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐 is because he didn't know the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐. 讗诇讗, we must say the reason: 诇讞诇讜拽 讻讘讜讚 诇专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, to give 讻讘讜讚 to 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛. He
let 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛 be the one to 驻住拽谉 the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐, and not 专讘, so people will give 讻讘讜讚 to 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛. 专讘 didn't need anything special so people should give him 讻讘讜讚. People gave him 讻讘讜讚 anyway. But 专讘讛 讘专 讞谞讛, people didn't give him that much 讻讘讜讚, so he wanted him to get the extra 讻讘讜讚, so that's why he said he should be the one to 驻住拽谉 诪讜诪讬诐, and not 专讘. 讜讗讬讘注讬转 讗讬诪讗, if you want, it could be another reason: 诪砖讜诐 讛讗 讙讜驻讗, for that reason itself, 讚专讘 讘拽讬 讘诪讜诪讬谉 讟驻讬. Since 专讘 was more 讘拽讬, was more well-versed in the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 诪讜诪讬诐, that is the reason why he said he shouldn't 驻住拽谉 诪讜诪讬诐. Why? Because since he was so well-versed, 讜砖专讬 诪讜诪讗, he might be 诪转讬专, he might allow a 诪讜诐 讚诇讗 讬讚注讬 讗讬谞砖讬, that people don't know. Since he is so well-versed, there could be a 诪讜诐 which really is a 诪讜诐 拽讘讜注, really it's a permanent one, but people think that it's a 诪讜诐 注讜讘专, a temporary one. He will be 诪转讬专 it, because he knows that it's a 拽讘讜注, it's a permanent one, it's allowed. But people won't know 讜讗诪专讬, and they will say, 讻讬 讛讗讬 讙讜讜谞讗 砖专讬 专讘, that 专讘 was 诪转讬专 a 诪讜诐 like this. There will be another 诪讜诐, which is really only a 诪讜诐 注讜讘专, a 诪讜诐 which is temporary, but they will think that it's like the 诪讜诐 that 专讘 was 诪转讬专, and really it's not. The 诪讜诐 that 专讘 was 诪转讬专 was a 诪讜诐 拽讘讜注. But they won't know the difference. 讜讗转讜 诇诪讬砖专讬 诪讜诐 注讜讘专, they're also going to be 诪转讬专 a temporary 诪讜诐. So therefore, he said that he shouldn't be 诪转讬专 any 诪讜诪讬谉. Then the 讙诪专讗 asks: He said, "讬讜专讛 讬讜专讛." He asked permission whether he should 驻住拽谉, and he said, "讬讜专讛", he could 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛转专. The 讙诪专讗's question is, "讗讬 讙诪讬专," if he learned, obviously he was a person that learned a lot. He knew the 讚讬谞讬诐. So then, 专砖讜转讗 诇诪讛 诇讬 诇诪讬砖拽诇? Why did he have to get the permission to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛转专? 诪讬诇讗, why he needed permission to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, we understand, as we said before, that just in case he makes a mistake, so if he got permission, he got the authorization, then he is not 讞讬讬讘 to pay. But concerning 讗讬住讜专 讜讛转专, why did he ask for an authorization for 讗讬住讜专 讜讛转专? If he was 讙诪讬专, he knew the 讛诇讻讜转, he could 驻住拽谉 without this authorization, too. And the 讙诪专讗 answers, "诪砖讜诐 诪注砖讛 砖讛讬讛," because of a story that happened. 转谞讬讗, we learned in a 讘专讬讬转讗, 驻注诐 讗讞转 讛诇讱 专讘讬 诇诪拽讜诐 讗讞讚, once 专讘讬 came to a certain place, 讜专讗讛 讘谞讬 讗讚诐 砖诪讙讘诇讬谉 注讬住讜转讬讛谉 讘讟讜诪讗讛, and he saw people that they were kneading the dough 讘讟讜诪讗讛. They didn't 讟讜讘诇 the 讻诇讬诐, they didn't make the vessels 讟讛讜专 before they kneaded the dough in it. 讗诪专 诇讛诐, so he said to them, "诪驻谞讬 诪讛 讗转诐 诪讙讘诇讬谉 注讬住讜转讬讻诐 讘讟讜诪讗讛? Why are you kneading your dough
讘讟讜诪讗讛? Why aren't you careful to use 讻诇讬诐 which were 讟讛讜专?" 讗诪专讜 诇讜, so they said to him, "转诇诪讬讚 讗讞讚 讘讗 诇讻讗谉," a certain student, a scholar, was here, 讜讛讜专讛 诇谞讜, and he 驻住拽谞'讟 to us that "诪讬 讘爪讬诐 讗讬谉 诪讻砖讬专讬谉," that water that come from swamps is not 诪讻砖讬专. The 讚讬谉 is that food does not become 讟诪讗, even if it touches 讟讜诪讗讛, if it touches a dead body or it touches a 砖专抓, which makes things 讟诪讗, it still wouldn't become 讟诪讗 unless the food was first 诪讜讻砖专 诇拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛. 诪讜讻砖专 means ready, prepared to be 诪拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛. What makes it ready to be 诪拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛? If it got wet with 诪砖拽讬谉, if it got wet with any of the specific seven liquids, so then afterwards, at any time it will touch 讟讜诪讗讛, it will become 讟诪讗. So here, since they used water, so automatically the dough became 诪讜讻砖专 to be 诪拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛, and being it was used in 讟讜诪讗'讚讬拽注 讻诇讬诐, automatically it become 讟诪讗. But they said to him that this 转诇诪讬讚 told us that water of swamps is not 诪讻砖讬专, doesn't prepare the food to become 讟诪讗, and therefore they felt that there was nothing wrong in kneading this dough and using water of the swamps in 讻诇讬诐 of 讟讜诪讗讛. But the truth was that 讜讛讜讗 诪讬 讘讬爪讬诐 讚专砖 诇讛讜. When he 讚专砖谞'讟, he 讚专砖谞'讟 to them that water of eggs, which mean the liquid of eggs, is not 诪讻砖讬专, which is true! Because only the seven liquids are 诪讻砖讬专, and the seven liquids are: wine, honey, oil, milk, dew, blood, and water. And the 住讬诪谉 to remember that is that it makes up three words: 讬讚, 砖讞转, 讚诐. And these three words is an abbreviation: 讬讚 is an abbreviation of 讬讬谉 and 讚讘砖, 砖讞转 is 砖诪谉, 讞诇讘, 讟诇, and 讚诐 is 讚诐 and 诪讬诐. So therefore, when he said that eggs are not 诪讻砖讬专 诇拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛, that was true. But 讗讬谞讛讜 住讘讜专, but they thought, 诪讬 讘爪注讬诐 拽讗诪专. The thing is that he wasn't clear, that they thought he meant water from the swamps, that's what he said, and that's why they felt that by using the water of the swamps, it won't become 讟诪讗. 讜转讜 谞诪讬 讘讛讗, they also made a mistake in something else. He said, "诪讬 讻专诪讬讜谉 讜诪讬 驻讬讙讛 驻住讜诇讬谉, 诪驻谞讬 砖讛诐 诪讬 讘爪注讬诐," that when you want to use the water for 讗驻专 驻专讛, for the 讞讟讗转, 诪讬 讞讟讗转, that is concerning the 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛, that in order to make a person 讟讛讜专 from 讟讜诪讗转 诪转, from becoming 讟诪讗 by touching a dead body, so it's not enough just to go to the 诪拽讜讛, but you had to go through the process of spraying on this person the 诪讬 讞讟讗转, that water that was mixed with the ashes that came from the burnt 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛, red heifer. Now, not all waters are 讻砖专 for 诪讬 讞讟讗转. You have to have 诪讬诐 讞讬讬诐, it says, living water. But he said that 诪讬 讘爪注讬诐, that water from swamps are no good, and therefore the water from the river that was called 讻专诪讬讜谉, or the river that was called 驻讬讙讛, is no good. 讜讗讬谞讛讜 住讘讜专, so they thought, 诪讬讚讬 讚诇讙讘讬 讞讟讗转 驻住讬诇, since 诇讙讘讬 讗驻专 驻专讛, 诇讙讘讬 the 诪讬 讞讟讗转, 诇讙讘讬 the water to use for the 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛 it is 驻住讜诇, so obviously it's not really considered water, 讗讻砖讜专讬 谞诪讬 诇讗 诪讻砖专讬. So it's also not 诪讻砖讬专. So if it touches food, it will not make the food 诪讜讻砖专 诇拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛. But 讘诇讗 讛讬讗, it is not so, it is not true. 讛转诐 诇注谞讬谉 讞讟讗转, concerning 讞讟讗转, concerning the water of the of the ashes of the 驻专讛 讗讚讜诪讛, 讘注讬谞谉 诪讬诐 讞讬讬诐, we need living water. The 转讜专讛 there says it has to be living water. So therefore, the water from these rivers were no good. But 讛讻讗, here, 讗讻砖讜专讬 讻讜诇讛讜 诪讻砖专讬, any type of water is 诪讻砖讬专 诇拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛. So therefore, even if you use the water that's 驻住讜诇 for 诪讬 讞讟讗转, is still 诪讻砖讬专 诇拽讘诇 讟讜诪讗讛. And they thought that by using this water, it won't become 讟诪讗. So therefore, 转谞讗, we learned, 讘讗讜转讛 砖注讛, that time, 讙讝专讜, the 讞讻诪讬诐 made a 讙讝讬专讛, 转诇诪讬讚 讗诇 讬讜专讛, a 转诇诪讬讚 should not 驻住拽谉, 讗诇讗 讗诐 讻谉 谞讟诇 专砖讜转 诪专讘讜, unless he got permission from his 专讘讬, even to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 of 讗讬住讜专 讜讛转专, because if the 专讘讬 gives him 专砖讜转, the 专讘讬 will make sure that he is a person that will be 诪讚讬讬拽 and will be clear in what he says. 讜讗注''讙, 诪爪讚 讛讚讬谉, there is no reason why he should need 专砖讜转 to 驻住拽谉 讗讬住讜专 讜讛转专 if he knows the 讚讬谞讬诐, but because of this, to make sure that people will not make a mistake, so he has to first get 专砖讜转 from his 专讘讬 and his 专讘讬 will only give 专砖讜转 to a person that will be clear, that he will knows that will not lead to any mistake. But
转讜住驻讜转 asks a 拽砖讬讗: how were they able to make a mistake between the words 讘爪注讬诐 and 讘讬爪讬诐? It sounds different. And therefore 转讜住驻讜转 says that really he didn't say 讘爪注讬诐, but he said 讘讬爪讬谉, because in Hebrew 讘讬爪讛 also means mud. So he said 诪讬 讘讬爪讬谉, which is almost like 诪讬 讘讬爪讬诐, and therefore they made a mistake. Another thing 转讜住驻讜转 asks, that he 讚专砖谞'讟 to them that the water of 讻专诪讬讜谉 and the water of 驻讬讙讛 are 驻住讜诇 for 诪讬 讞讟讗转. 转讜住驻讜转 asks, why are they 驻住讜诇 for 诪讬 讞讟讗转? Because in the 讙诪专讗 in 讘讘讗 讘转专讗, it's 诪砖诪注 that they were rivers. Because on the 驻住讜拽 讜注诇 谞讛专讜转 讬讞讜谞谞讜 讗诇, so the 讙诪专讗 says, 讗诇讜 讚' 谞讛专讜转, this refers to which rivers? The four rivers: the 讬专讚谉, 讬专诪讜讱, 讻专诪讬讜谉, and the 驻讬讙讛. And if they were rivers, they should be 讻砖专, because rivers are 诪讬诐 讞讬讬诐, are water that come from wells, so they should be 讻砖专 for 诪讬 讞讟讗转. So why did he say that they were 驻住讜诇? And 专讘讬谞讜 转诐 answers that the truth is that they were 讟讗拽注 rivers, but they were not clear water. There was a lot of dust, a lot of sand mixed into it, a lot of mud mixed into it, and therefore it is 驻住讜诇 for 诪讬 讞讟讗转, because then it would be a 讞爪讬爪讛 between the water and the 讻诇讬. It says it has to be 诪讬诐 讞讬讬诐 讗诇 讻诇讬, the water has to be put into the 讻诇讬, but if there is dust and mud in the water, so that is a separation between the water and the 讻诇讬, that's why it's 驻住讜诇. So this is the reason why he 讚专砖谞'讟 to them that the water from these two rivers are 驻住讜诇. Then the
讙诪专讗 continues: 转谞讞讜诐 讘专讬讛 讚专讘 注诪讬, 转谞讞讜诐 the son of 专讘 注诪讬, 讗讬拽诇注 诇讞讟讜专, he happened to be in this place called 讞讟讜专, 讚专砖 诇讛讜, he 讚专砖谞'讟 to them, he taught them that 诪讜转专 诇诇转讜转 讞讟讬诐 讘驻住讞. You're allowed to soak wheat on 驻住讞 right before you grind them. And the reason why he's not afraid that it will become 讞诪抓 is because right after they soak them, right away they would grind them, so it didn't have a chance to become 讞诪爪讬讙. 讗诪专讜 诇讬讛, they said to him: 诇讗讜 专' 诪谞讬 讚诪谉 爪讜专 讗讬讻讗 讛讻讗, isn't 专' 诪谞讬 of 爪讜专 here? 讜转谞讬讗, we learned: 转诇诪讬讚 讗诇 讬讜专讛 讛诇讻讛 讘诪拽讜诐 专讘讜, a 转诇诪讬讚 should not 驻住拽谉 a 讚讬谉 in the place of his 专讘讬, 讗诇讗 讗诐 讻谉 讛讬讛 专讞讜拽 诪诪谞讜 砖诇砖 驻专住讗讜转, unless he was far away from him three 驻专住讗讜转, 讻谞讙讚 诪讞谞讛 讬砖专讗诇, which is the size of the Jewish camp in the desert. Because it says in the 转讜专讛: 讜讬讞谞讜 注诇 讛讬专讚谉 诪讘讬转 讛讬砖讬诪讜转 注讚 讗讘诇 讛砖讬讟讬诐, that the camp took up from 讘讬转 讛讬砖讬诪讜转 till 讗讘诇 讛砖讬讟讬诐. And 专讘讛 讘专 讘专 讞谞讛 said, I saw that place and it was three 驻专住讗讜转. So from there we learn out that you cannot 驻住拽谉 in the place of your 专讘讬 unless you're three 驻专住讗讜转 away at least, because it says in the 转讜专讛: 讜讛讬讛 讻诇 诪讘拽砖 讛', anybody who had any question concerning 注谞讬谞讬诐 of 讛' would go to 诪砖讛 专讘讬谞讜. And there, since the 诪讞谞讛 took up three 驻专住讗讜转, that showed that up to three 驻专住讗讜转 they would go to 诪砖讛. So from there we learn out that up to three 驻专住讗讜转 you go to the 专讘讬. So therefore, if he is further than three 驻专住讗讜转, then you're allowed to 驻住拽谉. But if your 专讘讬 is within three 驻专住讗讜转, you're not allowed to 驻住拽谉. So they said to him, how were you able to 驻住拽谉 this 讚讬谉 that you're allowed to soak the wheat and we're not afraid it will become 讞诪抓, when 专' 诪谞讬 of 爪讜专 is here and he is your 专讘讬? 讗诪专 诇讛讜, so he said to them: 诇讗讜 讗讚注转讗讬, I didn't realize that. I didn't realize that he was here, and therefore I didn't realize I wasn't allowed to 驻住拽谉. Then the 讙诪专讗 continues:
专' 讞讬讬讗 讞讝讬讬讛 诇讛讛讜讗 讙讘专讗 讚讛讜讛 拽讗讬 讘讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转. 专' 讞讬讬讗 saw this person that he was standing in a cemetery. 讗诪专 诇讬讛, he said to him: 诇讗讜 讘谉 讗讬砖 驻诇讜谞讬 讻讛谉 讗转, aren't you the son of this and this person who was a 讻讛谉? 讗诪专 诇讬讛, so he said to him: 讗讬谉, yes. 讗讘讜讛 讚讛讛讜讗 讙讘专讗, but the father of this person, meaning my father father, 讙讘讛 注讬谞讬诐 讛讜讛, he had high eyes, which means he looked what his eyes saw, and he followed his desires, 讜谞转谉 注讬谞讬讜 讘讙专讜砖讛, he put his eyes to a divorc茅e. He saw a divorc茅e he wanted to marry, and he married her, 讜讞讬诇诇讜, and he was 诪讞诇诇 him, because the 讚讬谉 is that if a 讻讛谉 marries a woman that he's not allowed, for instance, a divorc茅e, so then the children that are born are 讞诇诇讬诐, and they don't have the 讚讬谞讬诐 of 讻讛讜谞讛. So that's what he said: My father married a 讙专讜砖讛, so then I am a 讞诇诇, so therefore I am allowed to be in the 讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转. Now, the question is what does this 讙诪专讗 have to do here? How does this story with 专讘 讞讬讬讗 fit into this 讙诪专讗? So 专砖状讬 says that he didn't hear any 驻砖讟, but he thinks that the 驻砖讟 is as follows: That even though 专讘 讞讬讬讗 was the 转诇诪讬讚 of 专讘讬, and this story happened probably in the place of 专讘讬, nevertheless, 专讘 讞讬讬讗 驻住拽谞'讚 a 讚讬谉. When 专讘 讞讬讬讗 saw him in the 讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转, right away he asked him, "What are you doing here?" Even though this was 驻住拽谞'讬谞讙 a 讚讬谉, he was saying to him, "You're not allowed to be here," and it was in the place of 专讘讬, and nevertheless he did it.
Why? Because the 讻诇诇 is 诇讗驻专讜砖讬 诪讗讬住讜专讗. If you come to take someone away from an 讗讬住讜专, to hold someone back from doing an 注讘讬专讛, there is no 讚讬谉 of 诪讜专讛 讛诇讻讛 讘驻谞讬 专讘讜. There is no 讗讬住讜专 of 驻住拽谞'讬谞讙 a 讚讬谉 in front of your 专讘讬. And that's why the 讙诪专讗 brings the story here, since we are talking about the 讚讬谉 that you're not allowed to 驻住拽谉 a 讛诇讻讛 in front of your 专讘讬, so the 讙诪专讗 is trying to say that if it comes 诇讗驻专讜砖讬 诪讗讬住讜专讗, to separate somebody from doing an 注讘讬专讛, then you're allowed to, even if it's in front of your 专讘讬, as we see in this story. This is one 驻砖讟 that he brings. But then 专砖状讬 says that we have another 驻砖讟: That in 讬专讜砖诇诪讬, in 砖讘讬注讬转, in the 驻专拽 砖诇讜砖 讗专爪讜转, 专讗讬转讬, there it says that this story didn't happen to 专讘 讞讬讬讗, it happened to 专讘讬. And this story comes right after the previous story that we brought, that 专讘讬 came to a certain place and he saw them kneading their dough 讘讟讜诪讗讛, and it all came through the mistake that they thought that the 转诇诪讬讚 said that 诪讬 讘爪讬诐 is not 诪讟诪讗. So right after that, the 讙诪专讗 continues that 专讘讬 saw this person in the 讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转. And the 讬专讜砖诇诪讬 says that this happened in the city of 注讻讜. And the 讬专讜砖诇诪讬 wants to bring out from here that 注讻讜, part of it was 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 and part of it was 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓. So in the part of 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇, that's where he saw that they were kneading their dough 讘讟讜诪讗讛 and he complained to them why they're doing it. And at the same time, he saw that a 讻讛谉 was going out into the part of 注讻讜 which was 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓. So the story wasn't that he saw a person in the 讘讬转 讛拽讘专讜转, but he saw this person, he thought he was a 讻讛谉, going out on the other side of 注讻讜, which was 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓. And we have a 讻诇诇 that 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓 is 讟诪讗, the 讗讜讬专 of 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓, even the air of 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓 is 讟诪讗. So in the time when they were careful with 讟讜诪讗讛 and 讟讛专讛, a 讻讛谉 was not allowed to go out from 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 to 讞讜抓 诇讗专抓. So when he saw this person go out into the other half of 注讻讜, he asked him, "Aren't you the son of that person who was a 讻讛谉? How could you do it?" And he answered him, "No, that my father married a 讙专讜砖讛, and I am a 讞诇诇." So that's why the 讙诪专讗 brings the story here, because this is a continuation of the previous story. That this happened at the same time when 专讘讬 saw them kneading the dough 讘讟讜诪讗讛, at the same time he saw this person going out into a place which was 讟诪讗. Then the 讙诪专讗
continues: 驻砖讬讟讗, this is a clear 讚讬谉, 诇驻诇讜讙讬, that if you give permission to somebody to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐, but not all 讚讬谞讬诐, only partially, part of the 讚讬谞讬诐, some 讚讬谞讬诐 yes, some 讚讬谞讬诐 not, 讛讗 拽讗诪专 讚诪讛谞讬, didn't we say that it helps? As we see before, that to 专讘, he only gave permission to 驻住拽谉 讗讬住讜专 讜讛讬转专 and 讚讬谞讬 诪诪讜谞讜转, but not 诪讜诪讬谉. The question is 注诇 转谞讗讬 诪讗讬, if you give permission on condition, what is the 讚讬谉? And as 专砖状讬 says, it means if you give only for a certain amount of time. If you say, "You have the authorization to 驻住拽谉 讚讬谞讬诐 up to a certain time," is that valid or not? During the time that he does have the permission, is he allowed to 驻住拽谉 or not? So the 讙诪专讗 says: 转讗 砖诪注, come here, I'll answer your question. 讚讗诪专 诇讬讛 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉 诇专讘 砖诪谉, 专讘讬 讬讜讞谞谉 said to 专讘 砖诪谉, 讛专讬 讗转 讘专砖讜转讬谞讜, you are with our permission, 注讚 砖转讘讜讗 讗爪诇讬谞讜, until you come back to us. He was going from 讗专抓 讬砖专讗诇 to 讘讘诇. So he said to him that as long as you're there, till you come back, you have 专砖讜转 to 驻住拽谉. So we see that there is such a thing as giving 专砖讜转 for a certain amount of time, and during that time, he is allowed to 驻住拽谉.